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True Reign June 20th, 2009 7:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TehSpriter (Post 4766136)
Hey everybody.

I was just wondering what would happen how Magneton and Nosepass would evolve in HeartGold and SoulSilver seeing as they only evolve when leveled up in Mt. Coronet.

Please discuss.

Maybe an archepeligo of islands in the game just for Pokemon who appeared in Generations 3 + 4?

billi1000 June 20th, 2009 7:31 AM

This has already been discussed on another thread man, but anyways, in mount coronet, a magnetic field is what made magneton and nosepass evolve, so in Johto, it seems this magnetic field will be available in another area, with i speculate to be mnt silver.

Eggie Poo Poo June 20th, 2009 8:10 AM

I assume you just can't get it in HG/SS, you have to trade it to D/P/Pt, in FRLG you couldn't get Umbreon, so yeah.

Matt-O June 20th, 2009 8:40 AM

My money is on Mt. Silver making them evolve, but I'm sure that they will make a way. They might also just make some sort of Stom\ne that you carry around like how you get Umbreon and Espeon in Gale of Darkness.

whodathunk June 20th, 2009 9:56 AM

mabye you evolve them in mount silver

jbs829 June 20th, 2009 9:56 AM

im gonna agree that youre going to have to trade them to DPPt to get them

same goes for leafeon and glaceon

Zanny77 June 20th, 2009 9:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jbs829 (Post 4766736)
im gonna agree that youre going to have to trade them to DPPt to get them

same goes for leafeon and glaceon

Well, for leafeon and glaceon, you could probably evolve them in Ilex Forest or Icy Path.

JP June 20th, 2009 10:41 AM

Maybe they won't even add these evolutions to the games... but who knows.

©ereal Killer June 20th, 2009 10:45 AM

Thank god! I thought this was going to be like one of those VS. threads coz i will definitely say Magnezone!! (Probopass = Flying giant nose)

Im pretty sure you have to evolve them in D/P/Pt then transfer.

Ryanniny June 20th, 2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zanny77 (Post 4766745)
Well, for leafeon and glaceon, you could probably evolve them in Ilex Forest or Icy Path.

i think this will be what they'll do for those two
but for magneton/nosepass, my money's on the power plant in kanto, you go there to sort out something wrong with lavender's radio tower, so maybe the electric waves could be out of control & you have to stabelise them, then they can evolve.
i highly doubt, for generation 4, they'd make them unattainable without the use of DPPt

JP June 20th, 2009 11:02 AM

Indeed. Chances are they'll make you transfer them over to D/P/Pt for the evolutions.

Cold Fusion June 20th, 2009 11:02 AM

They may not actually put them in the game, no one knows, but if they do I would guess that they would evolve on Mt. Silver.

Yuoaman June 20th, 2009 12:44 PM

I'm betting that they will evolve in Mt. Silver, because all they need is a magnetic field, it's not a specific area.

Circuit June 20th, 2009 12:56 PM

My guess would be that you can evolve Leafeon and Glaceon in Ilex Forest and Icy Path, but Probopass and Magnezone would be on Mt. Silver. Though, they may not make it possible and you would have to trade.

TheAliveTrain June 20th, 2009 1:42 PM

Umbreon and Espeon were the most stupid evolution cases ever.
You should have to trade them firstly to Ruby/Saphire, evolve them there (which is not easy, as when traded loses every happiness), and then, finally, trade them back to FR/LG. So I would say to not compare them to this generation.
On D/P/Pt, almost every Pokémon was available (less starters & some legends). So my point is, the same will happen with HG/SS.
I'm one of those which agree with the theory of Mt.Silver / Magnetic Fields.
But, yeah, the other speculation also makes sense (the trading one, so they get profit.. maybe not).
Plus, both of them make sense, the same sense. And Nintendo will choose one. :D

Ayselipera June 20th, 2009 1:58 PM

Like others are saying I think Mt. Silver
will be able to evolve Probopass and Magnezone.

JollyRoger25 June 20th, 2009 2:16 PM

I think that evolution that was based off of area will not be the case in these games:
Probopass, Magnezone: Requred that you go to Mt.Coronet, for the Magnetic field: chip a stone from the Mountian, and use its magnetic propoties to evolve said pokemons.
Leafeon: Required that you go to the Eterna Forest, for the Moss Rock: Chip a stone from the Rock, use its proporties to evolve said pokemon.
Glaceon: Required that you go to Route 217 for the Ice Rock: Chip a stone from the Rock, use its proporties to evolve said pokemon.
If they include them at all....

bobandbill June 20th, 2009 3:00 PM

Merged topic on Magnezone and Probopass here, as this thread already exists for discussing how some evolutions will occue and all.

tdog June 24th, 2009 12:41 PM

I think for gastros it would be johto for west kanto for east. there simply put

Midnight_1987 June 24th, 2009 1:19 PM

Who knows...Which legendaries will be catchable?

Artemis June 24th, 2009 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tdog (Post 4783306)
I think for gastros it would be johto for west kanto for east. there simply put

You know, at first I had thought why not a East Gastrodon for Johto and a West Gastrodon. Then, I recently started hearing about this idea and how better fitted it seemed for the game. If there were to be added Shellos/Gastrodon forms, then I think having a Johto form and Kanto form would be the best option. It'll keep the whole concept of it from extending too far. Not to mention, Johto is basically one region together, while Sinnoh is one region, but the large Mt. Coronet splits it apart. So, the idea of a Kanto and Johto Shellos/Gastrodon idea seems a lot better. The only matter is if we'll get the new forms first.

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Originally Posted by Midnight_1987 (Post 4783463)
Who knows...Which legendaries will be catchable?

According to recent scans, there is going to be an array of different legendaries added into the remakes. They range from the original Johto legendaries to now Hoenn and Sinnoh legendaries as well. However, for me, I would like it to keep the legendaries as they are now. Shaymin and Giratina was enough, but to keep it going now I think would be a little too far with it. I'd rather wait for a new generation for this idea though [at the least].

Ellie June 24th, 2009 2:56 PM

If there were new Shellos/Gastrodon, how would they change when you transfer to DPPt? It'd be a little weird if both forms changed to one form when transferred, and if they each correspond to one in DPPt... then why not just make those the forms available in HgSs? It's not a bad thought, it's just the whole transfer-to-DPPt thing complicates new forms a little.

Artemis June 24th, 2009 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie (Post 4783859)
If there were new Shellos/Gastrodon, how would they change when you transfer to DPPt? It'd be a little weird if both forms changed to one form when transferred, and if they each correspond to one in DPPt... then why not just make those the forms available in HgSs? It's not a bad thought, it's just the whole transfer-to-DPPt thing complicates new forms a little.

This is what a lot of people ask as well. More than likely, if a new form is made for Gastrodon and it goes by East for Kanto and West for Johto, then it wouldn't be so hard to think of how it can revert when traded back into DPPT. For example, if you have a Gastrodon that is from Johto [West], then when traded back to the DPPt games it can simply revert to the West Sinnoh form. The samething would happen for the Kanto [East] as if it were to be traded into DPPt, then it would simply revert to the East side form. There are ways of doing things where they can work, however you just need to think of those possibilities. This is just one thought that I came up with though, and it could work, but we'll see if a new form of the Shellos line is even put into the remakes.

Blue Nocturne June 25th, 2009 6:45 AM

I think there could be a held item to evolve magneton and nosepass; something like "lodestone" and level up while holding said item to evolve.

Shaymin = White Rock on route 25 mentioned by prof oak in DPPt
Darkrai (if he is included) = Dark Cave, personally i though it was a bit neglected

As for Leafeon and Glaceon, more rocks seem likely, or perhaps a held item in a similar vein to the above magnet theory, perhaps a chip of the sinnoh stones... damn, someone beat me to that : (

altaria221 June 25th, 2009 8:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Aero. (Post 4784318)
This is what a lot of people ask as well. More than likely, if a new form is made for Gastrodon and it goes by East for Kanto and West for Johto, then it wouldn't be so hard to think of how it can revert when traded back into DPPT. For example, if you have a Gastrodon that is from Johto [West], then when traded back to the DPPt games it can simply revert to the West Sinnoh form. The samething would happen for the Kanto [East] as if it were to be traded into DPPt, then it would simply revert to the East side form. There are ways of doing things where they can work, however you just need to think of those possibilities. This is just one thought that I came up with though, and it could work, but we'll see if a new form of the Shellos line is even put into the remakes.

On bulbapedia, they have another gastrodon/shellos sprite on platinum, pearl and diamond, but it is currently unused/unobtainable, so that sprite will probably be the shellos/gastrodon sprite for johto


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