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Retro Bug May 22nd, 2009 1:13 PM

TR was the best, and Giovanni was killer. The rest of the team leaders are just crazy people who have no lives. I want to see what their sprites will look like in battle, especially the executives. They were always the funniest to beat. And I think they should let us join TR, that would be fun! (Yes, I know that would most likely not happen. :3)

Zelda May 22nd, 2009 1:25 PM

Joining Team Rocket, that would be crazy but fun. It won't happen though, as we all know.

I am excited to see how their sprites are as well. I did get to see one in a Coro Coro Scan by the Slowpoke well, but I don't know if that was one of them.

Jim May 22nd, 2009 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Charaxes (Post 4653782)
Edit: I hope we'll finally get official names for the male and female Execs. I wonder if we'll get backstory, too.

Bit off the 'current' topic, but: Doesn't the Player/Lance battle both executives in the Mahogany base? Anyone for a Lance-Player VS Executives double battle? (Makes sense; it happened with Steven/Cynthia) I think the dialogue implied the battle to be a double-battle, but at the time was technically impossible.

(Yes, Backstory and Names! I remember thinking that the Executives were different people with each re-appearance... I was young ^3^)

Zelda May 22nd, 2009 2:50 PM

I wonder if Team Rocket will get a little bit stronger? I would only hope so because most of them were too weak for me.

manga_meijin2 May 22nd, 2009 5:38 PM

Giovanni will have to be here and they will finally tell us Silver is his son!

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 5:49 PM

I don't know if I want them to reveal anything about Silver being Giovanii's son really. Though, like ~Morning Bliss~ mentioned, I wouldn't mind them getting a bit stronger at all.

Charaxes May 22nd, 2009 6:41 PM

Someone mentioned on how the fact on how the Rockets are capable of being omnipresent, because they weren't fixed on any particular element of the story (like the Legendaries with M/A/G). It certainly implies much flexibility, as, well, making money and unleashing chaos isn't as convoluted as M/A acquiring of Groudon/Kyorge or Cyrus and the Red Chain. Frankly, Cyrus' plan really could have blown up on him, as do you want to mess with the Space/Time mega-God? Imagine if he wanted Arceus? Oy.

Side rant aside, I think one major aspect of Team Rocket is they are instigators and they find a way to profit from it (Mt. Moon, Slowpoke Well). Sometimes, they create chaos and can use it to their advantage, like the Red Gyarados. They didn't intend for a Magikarp to evolve that way, but, sometimes, even chaos can be beneficial (to the creator and the createe).

As for the Double battle aspect with Lance and the Execs, yeah, I fully expect that, as we've seen in the past two generations. So, I'll call it a given.

Let's shift the topic on the sole Rocket Grunt in Kanto with the Power Plant part. How about a wave of Rockets, instead, like the Nugget Bridge with the non-Rocket Trainers in R/B/Y? Because after taking down a slew of them at the Radio Tower, seeing only one lone Rocket in Kanto -- it's kinda lame.

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 6:45 PM

Seeing one Rocket Grunt is pretty lame, I agree.

Though, besides that, Team Rocket is also a more realistic kind of team, as today, people don't really look to take over the world as many view it to be. They actually are just trying to get money and get rich with evil, bad-guy schemes. So, it makes it a lot better to me seeing as it isn't something so unrelaistic, but something that people today might even do.

Precious Tears May 22nd, 2009 6:53 PM

I hope Nintendo will develop Team Rocket more...
I hadn't seen them getting involve with legendaries...
Perhaps Celebi will be the right choice?
Let's say that Team Rocket wants to go back in time(3 years ago...) to find Giovanni... And they wanted to use Celebi's power(as it has the power to go to different times).

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 6:56 PM

The Celebi idea would be pretty cool to see, though I would forsee another kind of distorted worl in it. Nah, I prefer for them to stick to their more realistic plans than break the bend that far.

Charaxes May 22nd, 2009 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4665029)
Seeing one Rocket Grunt is pretty lame, I agree.

Though, besides that, Team Rocket is also a more realistic kind of team, as today, people don't really look to take over the world as many view it to be. They actually are just trying to get money and get rich with evil, bad-guy schemes. So, it makes it a lot better to me seeing as it isn't something so unrelaistic, but something that people today might even do.

Well, the escapism isn't a bad thing, actually, as I prefer cult girls in short skirts to compensate for my boring life. Heh. However, yes, The Rockets do have the most realistic structure of the game Big Bads, as we've been saying. Although, it's interesting how their sanity is becoming stressed, which is good.

Celebi was mentioned, which would be a nice nod to the 4th movie. However, I have two separate Rocket goals for Lugia and Ho-Oh, in terms of them. Lugia would be a good vanguard as a weapon, as it screams destruction. Conversely, Ho-Oh has regeneration powers, so what if Team Rocket captured it and tapped into the power, so they can sell it. Selling immortality can make you rich and fast. Plus, people would be addicted and you would have a never ending supply of money. The Rockets are the most scientific based of the Big Bad orgs, so they could do it.

Of course, we can't reference drugs, so. Shifty eyes.

Meanwhile, if you don't want destruction of the earth, via Lugia, Kou, Tei and Cune would make excellent enforcers. So, make it all Ho-Oh centric.

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 7:08 PM

It would be kind of cool to see Team Rocket go after the three Legendary Beasts actually after the Johto storyline ends. It can still stick to their overstressed idea of gaining money and becoming the well knon big bag thugs that other should be afraid of.

Though, oh dear, Team Rocket out for drugs, (lol), I think we better shift directions on that for real. xD

Nnoitra Jiruga May 22nd, 2009 7:21 PM

Probably will be the same. (Gasp, watch out Heart! Kris is angry! D : )

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 7:23 PM

Spaking about Heart, I wonder if she'll play any part in with Team Rocket. Somewhat like how Dawn/Lucas did with Team Galactic back in DPPt.

Charaxes May 22nd, 2009 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4665106)
It would be kind of cool to see Team Rocket go after the three Legendary Beasts actually after the Johto storyline ends. It can still stick to their overstressed idea of gaining money and becoming the well knon big bag thugs that other should be afraid of.

Though, oh dear, Team Rocket out for drugs, (lol), I think we better shift directions on that for real. xD

Exactly, as the Lugia and the Beast trio can play on sheer force, whereas, Ho-Oh can be twisted for money. As for Ho-Oh, how is it different than them selling Slowpoke tails? So, on that end, you could be creative on the energy, since humans in the anime ingest the Berries all the time. Make a energy booster, or something, and use it that way.

(For the record, if anyone wants to play on my idea for fic, you certainly can. Although, I would like it if I were credited for the idea. Hee.)

As for the Beast trio, well, the Rockets did have their number on the Legendary Birds (Special, Stadium, the TCG), so it makes sense to obtain the Johto counterparts.

Okay, yeah, it's a bit much. Let's shift to Gen 4 Pokemon they could own. I see Drapion, very easily.

Edit: Okay, someone mentioned on Heart and the potential of a tag team match. So, let's have dual topics! Heh.

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 7:30 PM

If Team Rocket went after Ho-Oh and/or Lugia for the money, then they better have the best of team leader to go under charge for that. O_o

I can definitely see Team Rocket with perhaps a Croagunk and Drapion too. It seems something that fits for them. There are actually a lto of possibilities for them to own.

Charaxes May 22nd, 2009 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4665161)
If Team Rocket went after Ho-Oh and/or Lugia for the money, then they better have the best of team leader to go under charge for that. O_o

I can definitely see Team Rocket with perhaps a Croagunk and Drapion too. It seems something that fits for them. There are actually a lto of possibilities for them to own.

Lugia would be the handy engine of destruction, so. But as they say, 'you go after big game, you take it down with your best shot.'

Well, the game producers are getting better at acknowledging the anime, so I could see a Carnivine in the mix or a Yanmega. After Butler and Diane's cameo in D/P and there was a Trainer in Coloss with James' Pokemon at the time (the cactus and the wind chime), it's not so crazy to now consider it.

As for the rest of the media (Special, the Stadiums), I dunno. But, we can hope.

Artemis May 22nd, 2009 8:09 PM

We can only hope, and hope some more.

I actually can picture Carnivine, along with a Seviper as well. If they give Jesse and James a double battle appearance like how Jesse had appeared, then they could involve some of their current anime Pokémon just for a cool side addition to it.

Charaxes May 22nd, 2009 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4665309)
We can only hope, and hope some more.

I actually can picture Carnivine, along with a Seviper as well. If they give Jesse and James a double battle appearance like how Jesse had appeared, then they could involve some of their current anime Pokémon just for a cool side addition to it.

Right, right.

I also thinking of Dustox. Jessie aside, I think it would have been logical if the Rockets had it (Poison type, and they can do Bugs, thanks to Venonat in G/S/C). After all, Galactic has both branch Evos, so I can't see it being embargoed on the Rockets, anymore.

Redstar May 22nd, 2009 10:24 PM

I would really like it if people would stop putting forth that theory of Silver being Giovanni's son like it was fact.

Alexithymia~ May 22nd, 2009 10:36 PM

I really liked the Team Rocket plot in G/S/C. Can't wait to play it again.
When will they ever win one, eh?
:D I like their outfits too.

Pokedra May 22nd, 2009 10:57 PM

I'd like them mostly to stay the same however I'd like the executives to be more of a challenge. The ones they had in G/S were pathetic =/

Artemis May 23rd, 2009 4:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Charaxes (Post 4665499)
Right, right.

I also thinking of Dustox. Jessie aside, I think it would have been logical if the Rockets had it (Poison type, and they can do Bugs, thanks to Venonat in G/S/C). After all, Galactic has both branch Evos, so I can't see it being embargoed on the Rockets, anymore.

I do see them wirh the poison/bug types too. Venonat, would be a good addition. Also, maybe Pokémon like Koffing, Weezing, Ekans, Arbok, all the old Gen I Pokémon and Gen II Pokémon would make a great return with Team Rocket for their rosters.

I also, like to think that they would get stronger too.

Trikeboy May 23rd, 2009 10:47 AM

I would love Team Rocket to fall back to Kanto and have a larger part of the story there.

Artemis May 23rd, 2009 10:48 AM

I see them returning if they are going to make another attempt, after their last fall down in Kanto three years ago.


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