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Ultima0071 May 23rd, 2009 11:13 AM

The problem I have with Team Rocket is that their power is downsized in the GSC games from the anime. RBY had an excuse, since these games were what Team Rocket in the anime were based upon. However, GSC should of had the better plot for Team Rocket. If in the anime they can go after legends, they should be able to do so in GSC. Dark Lugia could play a part in HeartGold and there could be a separate plot in SoulSilver. To me, separate plots in these games would make them even more perfect.

However, I do not know how extensive the other character's role will be in these games. If you remember, it was Lance who helped you the most and your rival who battled you continuously. I really don't see a role in which the other gender counterpart could fill.

Artemis May 23rd, 2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultima0071 (Post 4667379)
The problem I have with Team Rocket is that their power is downsized in the GSC games from the anime. RBY had an excuse, since these games were what Team Rocket in the anime were based upon. However, GSC should of had the better plot for Team Rocket. If in the anime they can go after legends, they should be able to do so in GSC. Dark Lugia could play a part in HeartGold and there could be a separate plot in SoulSilver. To me, separate plots in these games would make them even more perfect.

However, I do not know how extensive the other character's role will be in these games. If you remember, it was Lance who helped you the most and your rival who battled you continuously. I really don't see a role in which the other gender counterpart could fill.

Team Rocket could have sure gotten a lot of money if they attempted to capture and sell Lugia and Ho-Oh, except the story would change for the remake, and I'm not really looking for that to happen. Not unless, it occurs after the main storyline, then it'll be fine to go up against.

As for the seperate storylines for each game, I don't know how well that might work out.

Ultima0071 May 23rd, 2009 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4667410)
Team Rocket could have sure gotten a lot of money if they attempted to capture and sell Lugia and Ho-Oh, except the story would change for the remake, and I'm not really looking for that to happen. Not unless, it occurs after the main storyline, then it'll be fine to go up against.

As for the seperate storylines for each game, I don't know how well that might work out.

Separate side stories, that is. We still do not have a story for capturing the other legendary (Ho-Oh on Silver and Lugia on Gold).

Artemis May 23rd, 2009 6:19 PM

I think they made it like that for a reason. I mean all the games have been chasing after legendaries for the main theme. THough it would be smart for TR to do the same for better chances of getting more money, but I think the game creators just wanted something a little bit different than the rest of games.

Charaxes May 23rd, 2009 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4666316)
I do see them wirh the poison/bug types too. Venonat, would be a good addition. Also, maybe Pokémon like Koffing, Weezing, Ekans, Arbok, all the old Gen I Pokémon and Gen II Pokémon would make a great return with Team Rocket for their rosters.

I also, like to think that they would get stronger too.

flash summed up my contention of the Side Stories theme nicely, so I won't have to get involved on that. Heh.

Moving back to the previous topic, I can't see the Rockets without Arbok and Weezing, although, I can buy some Gen III equivalents, Gulpin, much? I know Rocket-owned Beedrill have been featured in manga (e.g., Special), so that's a pretty easy choice.

Oh, can't forget Vileplume in FR/LG, so maybe some fun Grass/Poison types, too. Not Rosenade, but it would be badass, wouldn't it?

altaria221 May 23rd, 2009 7:44 PM

All games after the color and metal generation and remakes had the bad guys centered on a legendary pokemon, so they might try obtaining the radio tower on top of getting the legendary of that game

XxDawnfanxX May 23rd, 2009 7:59 PM

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Originally Posted by altaria221 (Post 4668858)
All games after the color and metal generation and remakes had the bad guys centered on a legendary pokemon, so they might try obtaining the radio tower on top of getting the legendary of that game

That would be cool and everything if they tried to obtain the respective legendary of that game, such as a take over of the tower for Ho-oh and them being scattered among the whirl islands for Lugia. I don't think they will end up doing so as it would be a pretty dramatic change but that would actually add more intenisity and I would enjoy going through them once more to get to Ho-oh or Lugia.

lolwut May 23rd, 2009 8:39 PM

I think some other members already mentioned it, but imo team rocket was one of my favourite parts of the game! But I hope they raise the levels on their pokemon (only admins), that would be great!

Artemis May 24th, 2009 6:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Charaxes (Post 4668634)
flash summed up my contention of the Side Stories theme nicely, so I won't have to get involved on that. Heh.

Moving back to the previous topic, I can't see the Rockets without Arbok and Weezing, although, I can buy some Gen III equivalents, Gulpin, much? I know Rocket-owned Beedrill have been featured in manga (e.g., Special), so that's a pretty easy choice.

Oh, can't forget Vileplume in FR/LG, so maybe some fun Grass/Poison types, too. Not Rosenade, but it would be badass, wouldn't it?

Arbok seems probable, but we'll see what happens with that.

As for Vileplume, I can actually see the higher grunts having it on their team. I agree with the Roserade idea though, it doesn't seem to fit in their team in my opinion. Gulpin, would be a nice twist for them to use if they continue their evil plots after the National Dex is obtained and we can now see the Gen III and IV Pokémon throughout the game.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ May 24th, 2009 7:58 AM

I wonder if they will ever have a Victrebel or Venusaur since we are talking about Grass/Poison type POkemon


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XxDawnfanxX May 24th, 2009 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~ (Post 4670587)
I wonder if they will ever have a Victrebel or Venusaur since we are talking about Grass/Poison type POkemon


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I could see Victreebell because it is a team rocket type of pokemon, I don't know about Venusaur though unless maybe Giovanni because he is the main boss.

Artemis May 24th, 2009 8:27 AM

Seeing Team Rocket with some starter Pokémon, I just don't picture that for them. I mean they represent some of those Pokémon that most people may or may not want. They also have a more matching theme of Pokémon for them too.

Charaxes May 24th, 2009 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4670677)
Seeing Team Rocket with some starter Pokémon, I just don't picture that for them. I mean they represent some of those Pokémon that most people may or may not want. They also have a more matching theme of Pokémon for them too.

Well, it's not completely out of line as it used to be. A Rocket-owned Charizard was featured in a AG episode (the return to Pewter Gym), the TCG featured Dark starter evos (including the Johto ones). I recently discovered a manga that Ono did for the first movie adaptation (apparently, one of the Grunts had a starter, too).

However, for the games, yeah, it is. Poison is their main shtick, so I don't seeing that changing. On the other hand, their secondary types can surprising, as Ditto and Porygon in G/S/C proved to be. Vileplume was the real surprise, as the Rockets don't typically have such... eye-pleasing Pokemon, shall we say.

Well, back to Gen IV, Honchkrow is a given. I know if Mismagius will be thrown into the mix. Stadium 2 gave the male Exec a Misdreavus, so it isn't completely crazy to think such things.

bit.trip void May 24th, 2009 10:36 PM

I can see them carrying around Mightyena's, and maybe Swalot, later in game. As Charaxes said,
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Well, back to Gen IV, Honchkrow is a given. I know if Mismagius will be thrown into the mix.
I agree, Honchcrow is a given. I hope they put in Mismagius, and I could deal with Victreebell's and Arboks.

Artemis May 25th, 2009 6:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Charaxes (Post 4673634)
Well, it's not completely out of line as it used to be. A Rocket-owned Charizard was featured in a AG episode (the return to Pewter Gym), the TCG featured Dark starter evos (including the Johto ones). I recently discovered a manga that Ono did for the first movie adaptation (apparently, one of the Grunts had a starter, too).

However, for the games, yeah, it is. Poison is their main shtick, so I don't seeing that changing. On the other hand, their secondary types can surprising, as Ditto and Porygon in G/S/C proved to be. Vileplume was the real surprise, as the Rockets don't typically have such... eye-pleasing Pokemon, shall we say.

Well, back to Gen IV, Honchkrow is a given. I know if Mismagius will be thrown into the mix. Stadium 2 gave the male Exec a Misdreavus, so it isn't completely crazy to think such things.


True, plus the games tend to share a different use of Pokémon from the anime. Though, another given Pokémon would probably be the Zubat line. As for Mismagius, I can see that happening, and I wouldn't mind too. It'll give the Team a bit of competition against us.

Åzurε May 25th, 2009 8:09 AM

Honchkrow... I remember that one admin with the murkrow that completely betrayed him. XD That was one of my favorite "dungeons" in the game. I'm hoping they emphasize the mafia qualities of the big R more, they did just sorta seem to be part of the list after Aqua/Magma came out. Also hoping for a Giovanni re-entrance. He's so awesome you can't pass it up! Perhaps if they do add another story arc (I bet they will), the boss man could have something to do with it...

Artemis May 25th, 2009 8:14 AM

With the newer Gen Pokémon, and the extended regions and perhaps islands as well, I wouldn't doubt that Team Rocket's plot will continue with the newer Pokémon and perhaps a Giovanni reappearance.

XxDawnfanxX May 25th, 2009 8:26 AM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4675216)
With the newer Gen Pokémon, and the extended regions and perhaps islands as well, I wouldn't doubt that Team Rocket's plot will continue with the newer Pokémon and perhaps a Giovanni reappearance.

Thats how I look at it as well, in my opinion Giovanni's reappearance is key for all of this. Well, that is if Team Rocket hopes to have any success

Artemis May 25th, 2009 8:28 AM

That is when I can picture maybe Team Rocket going after either the Legendary Birds or the Legendary Dogs, seeing as Moltres is one of them located on the Sevii Islands.

Johtomasterandlover May 25th, 2009 8:50 AM

Honestly its even possible for it to be Neo Team rocket ( yes the one that just shows up on the manga of Johto saga )

Artemis May 25th, 2009 8:57 AM

If Team Rocket turned into Neo Team Rocket afterwards, I would honestly be shocked. My jaw would drop if I were to see them there.

Zeta Sukuna May 26th, 2009 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by XxDawnfanxX
That would be cool and everything if they tried to obtain the respective legendary of that game, such as a take over of the tower for Ho-oh and them being scattered among the whirl islands for Lugia. I don't think they will end up doing so as it would be a pretty dramatic change but that would actually add more intenisity and I would enjoy going through them once more to get to Ho-oh or Lugia.

I know you're talking about for the main story, but why not keep it the same for the main story, and if it's possible, have Team Rocket search Kanto for the wing opposite of the one you got. (eg: Silver Wing for HeartGold, Rainbow Wing for SoulSilver), have them find it, and fight the leader in Ho-oh or Lugia's rooms as the bird is summoned? And after that, you can fight Ho-oh/Lugia at Lv. 70 (After given a chance to heal and stock up on supplies. It won't be going anywhere.)

Zelda May 27th, 2009 5:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeta Dimentio (Post 4682255)
I know you're talking about for the main story, but why not keep it the same for the main story, and if it's possible, have Team Rocket search Kanto for the wing opposite of the one you got. (eg: Silver Wing for HeartGold, Rainbow Wing for SoulSilver), have them find it, and fight the leader in Ho-oh or Lugia's rooms as the bird is summoned? And after that, you can fight Ho-oh/Lugia at Lv. 70 (After given a chance to heal and stock up on supplies. It won't be going anywhere.)

That would actually be a good idea. Kind of like how they did it with the orbs with Dialga and Palkia and the rest of the main legendaries.

I wouldn't mind that happening because if Team Rocket does do that it would actually be like a real remake storyline to the game. What I mean by that is how it follows the generation patterns of catching the main legendaries Groundon and Kyogre, Palkia and Dialga, and now it would be Ho-oh and Lugia.

.inLOVE May 27th, 2009 6:52 AM

I'm thinking, (well, at least hoping,) that Giovanni will be implemented a little more. He ended up to be really important in the end of the game, so why not show him a little more?

Zelda May 27th, 2009 6:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Santaria (Post 4683420)
I'm thinking, (well, at least hoping,) that Giovanni will be implemented a little more. He ended up to be really important in the end of the game, so why not show him a little more?

That'd be a great idea. I would want a storyline to where Silver finds out that Giovanni is his dad and Team rocket is shocked or something like that. Either way I would want Giovanni to be a part of the game a bit more.


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