The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Previous Generations (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=200)
-   -   4th Gen Team Rocket speculation (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=178550)

Ellie June 29th, 2009 9:38 AM

I bet it'll probably be the same, but I hope they do a little bit of a better transition from "basically dead in Kanto" to "alive again in Johto." They already started to bridge the gap in FrLg by including the male and female grunts that claim they'll rise again, who inevitably become the male and female execs in GSC, but it doesn't explain how those grunts managed to get people to join again and such.

I don't think Jessie and James will make a return, even with the whole following Pokemon thing. I don't see any other anime-only characters returning, and even though it's true they were in Yellow and Pikachu following you was in Yellow, the whole game was an offshoot of the anime, and HgSs don't seem to have other anime elements in them.

I don't think they should necessarily change up the Pokemon a whole lot. Every Trainer class in the game (Bug Catcher, Lass, Camper, etc) has a few certain Pokemon that they almost always carry, so why should Rocket Grunts be any different? I think what they could do, however, is make them a little bit stronger/higher-levelled. After all, they are supposed to be able to beat up any other Trainer besides you, right? This would add to that whole fear thing as well as give the player more of a challenge/better exp without having to change the Trainer class.

Guy June 29th, 2009 11:01 AM

I wouldn't really think Team Rocket would end back up in Kanto. Their original plans failed at their first attempt and to see that they have moved on without Giovanni to a new region, I wouldn't see them returning. However, things can take a turn for the unexpected with Giovanni making an appearance for his lead role as Team Rocket Head. This is when I can see a new plot for Kanto, but I would place that is wishful thinking right now. With this being said, I would believe in order for Kanto to come back alive, different side quests and plots will need to have implementation to the game. As for the original male and female Administrators from FRLG, they are most certainly the ones to return. However, seeing as they were higher than grunts, I would find it easier for them to round up the past Rocket members to target elsewhere.

As for Jesse and James, I wouldn't rule them out so fast, because there is a chance for them to return. A lot of variations are being put into the game and I wouldn't be surprised by this if it were to happen. I would like it to though as a little anime interpretation would be nice, however it is true the game doesn't follow the anime. So, I doubt it as well, but you can always hope I guess.

As for their Pokémon, if the Pokédex follows the DPPt format where we need to see them all before obtaining the National Dex, then I can see a few modification in rosters for Team Rocket. It wouldn't be a bad change either as like I said, it may make them a bit more challenging for the game when including the raise in levels and movepools. However, if not then I can see the game taking its original course, but I would prefer a little alter. Not to mention, a slight alter in their team rosters would not have to be major. For example, with Team Galactic in Diamond and Pearl compared to the Galactic grunts in Platinum you will notice that they have changed their rosters slightly as well. So something like this I would think might be fine for the least.

King_Zora June 29th, 2009 6:40 PM

They will do the same it is an exact remake I think with more features, It would be cool if Giovanni admits some stuff.

funderkitty07 June 29th, 2009 11:10 PM

I really hope Giovanni is reintroduced. The games weren't the same without him

XxDawnfanxX June 29th, 2009 11:17 PM

I don't think they would make them without Giovanni being the big boss to battle at the end, they need Giovanni in it the head of their operations. Otherwise, I'd be extremely disappointed. He is a cool character and a very smart business man, who has managed to get foiled by a kid which kills that xD. I am hoping he will make a re-appearence in Kanto. It seems unlikely but that would be sick, if he returned for vengeance.

ANARCHit3cht June 29th, 2009 11:18 PM

People, keep in mind: This is a remake. It wouldn't be a remake if they changed such things as to introduce new schemes and the return of Giovanni.

However, I do want to them to have better Pokemon.

Glaceon_ June 29th, 2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxDawnfanxX (Post 4805666)
I don't think they would make them without Giovanni being the big boss to battle at the end, they need Giovanni in it the head of their operations. Otherwise, I'd be extremely disappointed.

Then prepare to be thoroughly disappointed. The key word when concerning HG/SS is that it is a remake with some new features added to it. The story, although now with the addition of a support character, (if I recall correctly) will more or less remain pretty much the same as it was in G/S/C. I do believe there was no 'big boss battle' against Giovanni in G/S/C so I don't foresee there being one here.
(if my Generation I and II knowledge remains, take note that Giovanni disbanded Team Rocket when you beat him in Viridian Gym; those in Johto had not heard of the disbandment and continued as though Team Rocket was still united)

kiv_umar June 30th, 2009 2:37 AM

yeah i agree that they should throw some Team Rocket into the plot in Kanto and include Giovanni there too.

Tudj July 1st, 2009 12:35 AM

I think Giovanni should stop Team Rocket in the players last battle with them, as he could tell them to follow him and give up the crime, MAYBE.

Zeta Sukuna July 1st, 2009 10:12 AM

Unfortunately, if Giovanni were to return, it would be some unimportant part, if they decided to add him. There is likely to be little plot change. It is a remake, not a whole new game. There is a great possibility that Kanto will be the same as before, unfortunately, so don't get your hopes up about making too much change. With the exception of a couple of characters, but we might be surprised by something new.

Guy July 1st, 2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeta Dimentio (Post 4811164)
Unfortunately, if Giovanni were to return, it would be some unimportant part, if they decided to add him. There is likely to be little plot change. It is a remake, not a whole new game. There is a great possibility that Kanto will be the same as before, unfortunately, so don't get your hopes up about making too much change. With the exception of a couple of characters, but we might be surprised by something new.

A lot of people have high hopes for Kanto and Team Rocket because of the extra amount of memory and space a DS cartridge can hold compared to that of a GBA cartridge. However, I wouldn't expect Team Rocket nor Kanto to be exactly the same as before, but I don't expect it to be drastically different either. Although, there have been some unexpected surprises so far, so I think we may be in for something more compared to the originals.

If Giovanni is brought back like people may want, I wouldn't think of it happening in Johto, but at least in Kanto where he left the team. Like said, the storyline wouldn't change from the originals, so that will stay the same. However, even if Giovanni makes a comeback, just for a battle, then even if it may not be of high importance I will see it something as memorable for the players.

GreyShadow July 1st, 2009 11:04 AM

One thing I hope that Team Rocket will do is to actually do something. By that I mean that in G/S/C they wanted Red Gyarados. I hope that they will actually try harder this time and that they are involved with Ho-oh / Lugia.

I also hope that they reveal your rival Silver's identity as Giovoni's son. That would make my day.

And for everyone saying that "If Giovoni was in the game nothing would really change" you are wrong. In FR/LG Team Rocket did have more gameplay time then they did in in Red and Blue. If im correct (haven't played the story in a long time) they had a whole new warehouse. And the scientist in the warehouse was the first to reveal the fact that Silver could be Giovoni's son.

Samme! August 7th, 2009 12:06 PM

I really hope that Team Rocket will have something to do with the legendaries this time. Even if it is very minute, it would make them cooler.

blue August 7th, 2009 1:08 PM

I think it will be the same Storyline as last time, Maybe More Rockets with Higher Pokemon Levels and Different Pokemon and Maybe more to do with them in Kanto

Greene1516 August 7th, 2009 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0NST3RJ03 (Post 4957272)
I think it will be the same Storyline as last time, Maybe More Rockets with Higher Pokemon Levels and Different Pokemon and Maybe more to do with them in Kanto

They already confirmed that the Rocket storyline has been expanded.

Haza August 7th, 2009 5:07 PM

I dont think Giovanni will be in it this time since he was not in the opening.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 5:22 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.