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Swift! May 16th, 2009 7:20 PM

I'd like to see Morty have a Misdreavus. I mean, it makes sense... doesn't it?

Pokemoerules May 16th, 2009 7:24 PM

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Originally Posted by .Swift (Post 4647982)
I'd like to see Morty have a Misdreavus. I mean, it makes sense... doesn't it?



It makes complete sense, morty must have Misdreavus.

Ivysaur May 17th, 2009 1:25 AM

Merged another two identical threads~

And I don't think the Johto Gym Leaders/Elite 4 will have an update in the first run. Maybe if you can have rematches or the second time you battle them.

Electricz May 17th, 2009 2:03 AM

G/S was so easy i could complete the game in 3 hours using only my starter pokemon so they should make the leaders stronger and elite 4 stronger

Artemis May 17th, 2009 3:42 AM

If Morty is given a Mistreavous, then I'd like to have rematches with the Gym after obtaining the National Dex. Saying that, it'll be most likely by then he might have the new Mismagius.

NytewolfAU2k7 May 17th, 2009 6:54 AM

I'd like to see Kanto gym leaders and Red a bit tougher, yeah. ;)

Precious Tears May 17th, 2009 7:17 AM

To me the level is not important...
The problem is having TOO native Kanto Pokemon in almost every gymleaders' team...

For example
Falkner... He should instead have a Hoot-hoot and a Noctowl or Murkrow
rather than Pidgey and Pidgeotto
But of course there's some exception, like Morty and Clair
Since the lack of Dragon and Ghost-type...

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4648822)
If Morty is given a Mistreavous, then I'd like to have rematches with the Gym after obtaining the National Dex. Saying that, it'll be most likely by then he might have the new Mismagius.

I don't think we should have to wait the National-dex to have Mismagius...
They should kick out some too native Kanto Pokemon like Pidgey, Nidoran...
But include some 4th-gen Pokemon that have connection with 2nd-gen Pokemon like Electivire, Mismagius....

solaris knight May 17th, 2009 7:27 AM

Doubt they'll change their line-ups, and if thay do, they probably won't use anything beyond Gen 2.

I never thought G/S/C were too easy, though thinking back now, It seems they could use a little increase in power.

Precious Tears May 17th, 2009 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by solaris knight (Post 4649221)
Doubt they'll change their line-ups, and if thay do, they probably won't use anything beyond Gen 2.

I never thought G/S/C were too easy, though thinking back now, It seems they could use a little increase in power.

Yeah I know that too...
So sometimes I think the original G/S/C are kinda stupid games...
I mean there's wide selection of "new" Pokemon that can be put in those Gym Leaders team...
But why not use those Pokemon?
It's also kinda lame that Houndour, Murkrow etc can be ONLY caught in Kanto...

Artemis May 17th, 2009 11:15 AM

THey always deserved an increase in power, it was just back then, the two reasons levels would go so high, and I think GameFreak was a little skeptical on that.

Anyway, I doubt the lineup of the Gyms and Elites might change because of how the Gyms in FRLG styaed the same like the originals. I can picture it all changing up a bit after the National Dex is obtained and a rematch is called for.

Chris The Nerd May 17th, 2009 2:08 PM

Making Red Stronger
 
Up until the release of Pokémon Platinum, Red - from Gold, Silver, and Crystal - had the highest level Pokémon in any of the games, (Excluding the Battle Towers and Frontiers.) He had a Level 81 Pikachu, level 73 Espeon, 75 snorlax, and level 77 Kanto starters.

In Platinum,The Player's Rival, Pearl, will have his starter at level 85 later in the game, and two of his other Pokémon above level 81, and one At level 81) All of Pearl's Pokémon are at a higher level than Red's Second strongest Pokémon

The question I'm trying to get at is, do you think that Game Freak will boost Red's Party to beat Pearl's, or Leave them alone and make Pearl the reigning champion of all of the Pokémon games?

Hypno May 17th, 2009 2:11 PM

They better boost it a little bit more, he should be the ultimate trainer.

s0nido May 17th, 2009 2:13 PM

I want Red to be the strongest trainer of them all because he is just awesome. :P
Really, though, they should make him stronger, while making everyone else in the game stronger with him, so you don't have such a bad advantage. He was quite easy to beat because most of his Pokemon were a single type or had clear weaknesses. The only problem was that you could never train to his level just like that because of the lack of matching level wild Pokemon to train with. (i.e. level 50-70 wild Pokemon to train with.)

LethalTexture May 17th, 2009 2:18 PM

They should certainly make him better. Having Pearl besting him is simple a travesty.

"Shadow Lugia" May 17th, 2009 2:55 PM

Up until now, Red has been the strongest Pokemon trainer. He deserves that title.

Maybe after beating the Elite Four a certain number of times, his team could jump to lv. 100.

Artemis May 17th, 2009 2:56 PM

I would definitely want Red to gain back his title of having the strongest Pokémon. I mean it'll also give the game a chance to raise the levels of the Elites, Gyms, and so on.

Gummy May 17th, 2009 3:06 PM

For the simple fact of him being Red, they can make all his Pokemon level 90+ and most people wouldn't complain.

"Shadow Lugia" May 17th, 2009 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolución (Post 4650241)
For the simple fact of him being Red, they can make all his Pokemon level 90+ and most people wouldn't complain.

As long as there's a way for that to happen without the need of massive grinding to beat him, I'm guessing that more people would celebrate than complain.

BHwolfgang May 17th, 2009 3:10 PM

I want to see Red, or formely Ash Ketchum, to be 'the very best'. Having someone like Pearl besting his team is a mockery. Well, not really, but it's a shame to having someone like him to have his party getting beat by the player with one Pokémon.

If I have a say in anything, I would make all his Pokémons in their mid-90's and have Pikachu as level 100.

Chris The Nerd May 17th, 2009 3:13 PM

wait, I just realized something. since there was never a yellow remake, Red shouldn't even have that Pikachu in the remake's canon.

Jαcκςση May 17th, 2009 3:19 PM

Tbh, I think his team should eventually be at level 100 after some point.

Artemis May 17th, 2009 3:41 PM

You know what, why not just make all level 100 for out sakes (LoL). It'll definitely be a challenge, that's for sure.

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 17th, 2009 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~KALEIDOSCOPE~ (Post 4650150)
I want Red to be the strongest trainer of them all because he is just awesome. :P
Really, though, they should make him stronger, while making everyone else in the game stronger with him, so you don't have such a bad advantage. He was quite easy to beat because most of his Pokemon were a single type or had clear weaknesses. The only problem was that you could never train to his level just like that because of the lack of matching level wild Pokemon to train with. (i.e. level 50-70 wild Pokemon to train with.)

They will boost diffcutly so be perpared for lv.100 pokemon
Also there will be new areas with stronger pokemon to train...

Artemis May 17th, 2009 4:53 PM

With all these possibilites of a stronger Red and stronger trainers, then Experience will come very easily when time to EV train.

lolwut May 17th, 2009 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris The Nerd (Post 4650268)
wait, I just realized something. since there was never a yellow remake, Red shouldn't even have that Pikachu in the remake's canon.

But me, and probably some other people, still might believe that red is actually from the anime. Which did revolve around the video games but also had it's own story, and red had his pikachu all the way up to the emerald series, and he's yet to appear in the d/p/pt series.


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