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Castrainer September 21st, 2004 5:57 PM

Moves for a Ninjask
 
*Currently raising a Masquerain till it gets Silver Wind to breed with a Nincada*

So... What would be a good Moveset for a Ninjask?
I think I'll try:

Ninjask
@ Lax Inscence (Going to change that >_>)
[+ Attack, - Sp. Attack]
Aerial Ace
Silver Wind
Double Team
Baton Pass

Watcha Think?

Simon September 21st, 2004 5:59 PM

I always used

[email protected] berry or leftovers {+atk/-Sp. atk}/Adamant
EVS: 253 atk 252 speed 6 hp
Baton Pass
Silver Wind
Swords Dance
Subby

Toothache September 21st, 2004 6:02 PM

Unless he can trade to FR/LG, he won't be able to get Substitute.

Castrainer September 21st, 2004 6:03 PM

I cant get Subby too soon >_> *dont have either Fr/Lg*
What can I get replaced with substitute?

HellishHades September 21st, 2004 6:06 PM

You could use Protect. It's not as good, but it could do. It would mainly be for the Speed boost. Often, if you just need the Speed boost to Baton Pass, both Protect and Substitute are used (alternating).

Frostweaver September 21st, 2004 6:32 PM

Before we go on further, we all point at today's PotD on SPPF and let's all laugh at it. 1, 2, 3, AHAHAHHAHA Linoone with pursuit!

There's always the Frosty-exclusive Ninjask that whipped SPPF representative's butt on the last tourney XD;; (well not really whipped but at least it knocked 98% of Crobat's life... darn so close to pure sweepage)

Bandjask- [attack + / sp.atk -] @ Choice Band
EV: atk and speed max
-shadow ball
-aerial ace
-silver wind
-return (HP rock for online version)

Aerial ace should be able to circulate quite easily as half of all Pokemon can learn the move. Shadowball I don't think that you can get away without using the TM. I don't know of any bug egg group who can learn Shadowball besides Shedinja (which doesn't work as Ninjask movesets can be carried over to Shedinja but not vice versa.) Try to ask Toothy and the Breeding corners to help you on that one.

Toothache September 21st, 2004 7:00 PM

I finally worked out the breeding chain for Silver Wind and Shadow Ball onto Nincada, without using TMs!

Sableye (Shadow Ball) -> Volbeat -> Surskit (evolve and level up to get Silver Wind) -> Nincada.

EDIT: What, you want Aerial Ace as well, that's gonna cost extra!

Ok, here's the not so easy way to get Aerial Ace onto Sableye.

Taillow -> Swablu -> Treecko -> Tropius -> Hoppip -> Paras -> Volbeat -> Sableye.

Actually that's about the only way I can work out to do it, since only Volbeat and Sableye in the Human Shaped group can learn Aerial Ace. (and Illumise, but she can't pass on the move). I'll work on cutting down the chain (and using RS Pokemon) but it's probably not going to be easy. Anyway, from Sableye, level it up to learn Shadow Ball, then continue on the first chain (both moves will be passed along)

EDIT 2: Arrgh, Surskit can't learn Aerial Ace! It seems there is no way to pass Aerial Ace on to Nincada along with Shadow Ball and Silver Wind. Meh, all that effort for nothing. Hey, at least you can manage SB and SW together easily enough.

Spike Razzor September 22nd, 2004 4:34 AM

I wouldn't bother using Ninjask, seeing how online it has a 10% chance of working (most people now has a Psuedohazer).

Toothache September 22nd, 2004 9:57 AM

Yes, but this isn't for online, Spike :-p

Castrainer September 22nd, 2004 10:03 AM

Yah yah. Its IRL :P
Now, lets see... Look how I can do it:

Ninjask
@ Lax Insense (Laugh XD)
Silver Wind
Slash
Double Team
Baton Pass

Double Team + Speed Boost is something, with Baton Pass I can give all of that to a Partner, Silver Wind and Slash are to... Attack o__O

Frostweaver September 22nd, 2004 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Razzor
I wouldn't bother using Ninjask, seeing how online it has a 10% chance of working (most people now has a Psuedohazer).

Who said that it doesn't work? Still work wonders...

Passing Ninjask- [def or sp.def + / sp.atk -] @ stat boost berry
EV: def or sp.def, and speed
-swords dance
-baton pass
-substitute
-toxic

Do your usual passing, and lead off with sub. If the opponent isn't switching, do the usual. If it's a rock blaster, baton pass immediately. IF it's a pseudohazer, throw out toxic to mess it over before you're forced away. Soon enough the pseudohazer is dead, resume passing. Pseudohaze-lure-perfect! Works on anything but Steelix, Skarmory and Hazing Weezing, but you can't say that "this Pokmeon is not usable because it's weak to OU!" as that applies to almost every other Pokemon including other OUs in existence anyway. Use some strategy, and get around it. Don't lead off with Ninjask, and the chance of a successful Ninjask pass just rose a lot higher than before.

Spike Razzor September 22nd, 2004 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
Who said that it doesn't work? Still work wonders...

Passing Ninjask- [def or sp.def + / sp.atk -] @ stat boost berry
EV: def or sp.def, and speed
-swords dance
-baton pass
-substitute
-toxic

Do your usual passing, and lead off with sub. If the opponent isn't switching, do the usual. If it's a rock blaster, baton pass immediately. IF it's a pseudohazer, throw out toxic to mess it over before you're forced away. Soon enough the pseudohazer is dead, resume passing. Pseudohaze-lure-perfect! Works on anything but Steelix, Skarmory and Hazing Weezing, but you can't say that "this Pokmeon is not usable because it's weak to OU!" as that applies to almost every other Pokemon including other OUs in existence anyway. Use some strategy, and get around it. Don't lead off with Ninjask, and the chance of a successful Ninjask pass just rose a lot higher than before.

Those were bascily the ones I was talking about, since there so OUed. Still, there no real safe way to pull that off, just pray your opponent doesn't have one xD.

Frostweaver September 22nd, 2004 6:46 PM

So we might as well not use Starmie, because Gengar, Calmkou and Blissey mess it over. Let's ditch Tyranitar because Claydol, Flygon and Breloom kills it. Don't even bother with Dugtrio because Flygon (again), Aerodactyl and just anything faster than Dugtrio can ban Dugtrio into the deepest level of death. Yet I see Starmie, Dugtrio and Tyranitar being classified as OUs.

Just because other OUs can pwn them, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be used. Same rule applies to Passing Ninjask. Just because 3 OUs mess it over, that is to override its absolute authority over anything else that can't pseudohaze? Definitely and certainly, Ninjask is highly usable even at baton passing... well but maybe not with double team though, ingame or not.


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