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notbob May 18th, 2009 12:17 PM

My New Hack: Pokemon Dark Shadow
 
Pokemon Dark Shadow Version
READ THIS: This is a revamp off of my failed hack: Pokemon Carnelian. It has the same region, same world map, it is not a new or different region.
Hack of: Leaf Green
Story:
Spoiler:

You are a kid living in the region of Kansai in a remote village called Windton. You woke up and rushed to Professor Redwood's lab only to see that the lab is Police lined off, and all the Pokemon are missing. Redwood says that his Pokemon have been stolen and tells you to go find him. You find him and ask him for the Pokemon back. He gives you one and tells you to scram. You stay where you are. He becomes impatient and sends out one of the Pokemon. You then battle. Afterwords, he throws the poke balls on the ground and calls the Pokemon worthless and says that he's going after a much better one, you don't know what yet. You return the Pokemon to Redwood. He gives you 5 poke balls and the pokedex, and you head off to achieve your dream of competing in the grand tournament (which you can only enter in if you beat the other 9 tournaments). On your way to the last tournament, you see that there is a shrine in the forest. You go in and see the guy who stole the poke balls, he knocks off a jewel on the statue. You feel the ground shake heavily then you become unconscious. You wake up and the shrine is falling apart. You run outside and see a strange, new legendary Pokemon. Now it's your turn to catch it!

Pictures:http://img242%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E%3C/font%3E%3Ca%20href=http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rte1.png%20target=_blank%3E%3Cfont%20size=4%3E%3Cfont%20color=Blue%3E.imageshack.us/img242%3C/font%3E%3C/font%3E%3Cfont%20size=4%3E%3Cfont%20color=Blue%3E/3897/rte1.th.png
New Legendary:

Graphical improvements:
Gloomy graphics for that dark feeling.
Videos:
None yet. :shocked:

Banners:
Made by ageangel:
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1400/noptob.jpg
Code:

[img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1400/noptob.jpg[/img]


Made By Me:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8587/pokemondarkshadow.png
Code:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8587/pokemondarkshadow.png


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8587/pokemondarkshadow.png
Code:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8587/pokemondarkshadow.png


Things/ People Needed:
  • Scripter
  • Pokemon inserter/spriter/maker
  • Ideas
  • Beta Tester
  • World Mapper
  • Tile/ Palate Editor
  • Overworld Editor/Maker
  • Spriter
  • Title screen editor
  • Text editor
Development team:
Me - Mapper, Palate Editor, Title Screen Changer, Text Editor, Tile Editor

PM me if you want to join!!

Banjora Marxvile May 18th, 2009 12:21 PM

The Fakemon coud use a little work (like Body proportioning, and Shading). Who created it? The map is too much like Viridian Forest, and that was fairly unnatural, and the tiles aren't the greatest in the Worl, due to the green mountains.

Region Map looks a bit too clustered. try making it bigger with more routes (and longer ones!)

Good luck!

Mana May 18th, 2009 12:28 PM

Marxville - that map IS viridian forest, all he has changes is paint-like green thing for the trees.

The world map looks a bit weird, it has a ton of empty space to the left hand side and the shape is rather... Odd.

The story doesn't actually make sense, you missed out a line saying someone stole the Pokemon (aka. Him I think?)

notbob May 18th, 2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

The Fakemon could use a little work (like Body proportioning, and Shading). Who created it?
I made it
Quote:

The map is too much like Viridian Forest, and that was fairly unnatural, and the tiles aren't the greatest in the World, due to the green mountains.
That's because I am not done with it, they aren't green mountains. They are mountains covered with leaves and other plants, plus I kinda fixed it up, so the inward corners don't have that green line.

Cheesymitten May 18th, 2009 12:31 PM

Everything looks a bit too like the original(That looks like a celebi sprite)
But with some work i'm sure you could make it happen.
Looks like a good hack though. :)
Good luck :D

notbob May 18th, 2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 4652695)
The story doesn't actually make sense, you missed out a line saying someone stole the Pokemon (aka. Him I think?)

Yeah, I forgot to mention that.

I also NEED someone to either give me a new world map or put on in themselves. I forgot to mention that I need someone to put in music, because my computer doesn't want to load Sappy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesymitten (Post 4652715)
Everything looks a bit too like the original(That looks like a celebi sprite)
But with some work i'm sure you could make it happen.
Looks like a good hack though. :)
Good luck :D

That's because it's its evolved form.

Can someone give me their opinions already?

I'm working on new scripts currently...
This one doesn't seem to compile right:
#dynamic 0x720ACE

#org @start
lock
faceplayer
msgbox @yesno 0x5
if 0x1 goto @yes
if 0x0 goto @no
release
end

#org @yesno
=Would you like a berry?

#org @yes
giveitem 0x87 0x01
msgbox @yay
release
end

#org @no
msgbox @sorry
boxset 0x6
end

#org @yay
=Thank you.

#org @sorry
=Well, that sucks.
It's supposed to give you a berry for if your Pokemon is poisoned, a Pomeg berry.

The banner's in guys!! Thanks Ageangel!

gummybarz May 19th, 2009 7:31 PM

This is quite bad, First your story needs a little fixing, The celebi evo doesn't look right at all i recommend hiring a spriter, Another thing about the celebi sprite it's green for the front and red for the back what? The map isn't orignal i recommend reading a tut on how to design one. The only thing i even see good about this hack is the banner ageagel made. But i could be wrong (I don't think i am) but i could be. Maybe your prove me wrong and when hack of the week,
Spoiler:
if you can even get a alpha out
I'm a little harsh because i think your hack can go far, Never let these things upset you just take them and improve.


~Dmartin

notbob May 19th, 2009 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
This is quite bad, First your story needs a little fixing

How so? I think it's pretty good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
The celebi evo doesn't look right at all i recommend hiring a spriter

Can you do a better sprite?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
The map isn't orignal i recommend reading a tut on how to design one.

Wow... just wow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
Another thing about the celebi sprite it's green for the front and red for the back what?

It's for spriting, idiot. The back is the shiny, and the front is the normal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
I'm a little harsh

Little?!?!

Is this a little harsh?
Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4656710)
if you can even get a alpha out

Point proven. Oh yeah, almost forgot to give ageangel for his awesome banner. Give him credit and a cookie.

Ray Maverick May 19th, 2009 11:09 PM

Wowy there.Aren't you a little rude?
Quote:

It's for spriting, idiot. The back is the shiny, and the front is the normal.
I understand that they're harsh,and they didn't point out things with the right way.
But they are right with what they are saying.Really,do you think the celebi evo sprite will be smashing? :\
You need to work more on the story.

Sweet Jasmine May 19th, 2009 11:14 PM

I Really dont like the Fakemon Legendary
It's Fat >3 Could you make it a little
more Cuter? Well Nice Work *giggles*

-Yasumin >3

notbob May 20th, 2009 3:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasumin (Post 4657009)
I Really dont like the Fakemon Legendary
It's Fat >3 Could you make it a little
more Cuter? Well Nice Work *giggles*

-Yasumin >3

Well, it's meant to be muscular, as it is part fighting type.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Maverick (Post 4657003)
Wowy there.Aren't you a little rude?

I understand that they're harsh,and they didn't point out things with the right way.
But they are right with what they are saying.Really,do you think the celebi evo sprite will be smashing? :\
You need to work more on the story.

Why does the story need work and what is wrong with my sprite?

Ray Maverick May 20th, 2009 4:33 AM

What is wrong with your sprite?Its too fat,and it looks like alien. :\
No cute,as Yasumin said before.

The story....lets say its not exciting.

Mana May 20th, 2009 5:11 AM

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6287/cerebitop.png

I'm no spriter, but this is what is wrong:
-Scratchy black lines
-Missing any signs of a mouth
-Its head is profile rather than just looking slightly left
-Its arms look like fins
-Its feet... look like random boxes you rushed in.
-Its colouring is identical to Celebi's, and yet still looks uterly wrong (except the blue bits, which are wrongly places anyway)
Suggest: Getting a spriter, searching for Celebi evolutions that have been previously made and asking the spriter if you can use it.


Whats wrong with the story?
-You STILL havent added in the line I told you was missing, so it doesn't make sense.
-The story doesn't actually kick in until the final tournament, which I am going to assume is far into the game. Don't you think thats a bit boring?
Suggest: Fix the above.

Whats wrong with the maps?
-Far too much long grass
-The colour pallette just looks wrong, like how bright the grass is compared to the trees.
-Fence has random gaps and so serves little purpose except to fill in space.
-I see no bushes, and I like bushes.
Suggest: Don't feel the need to make large maps, make them small if you want. On large maps make a defined path that twists around and make sure its not so repetitive.

Sweet Jasmine May 20th, 2009 5:18 AM

Yeah I Wish Someone would edit it? and the Story could you make it a little bit
Adventurous? xD *thinking seriously* No Offense huh okies? ^_^
Good luck on it. and also you said it's muscular right? it's look like not >3
You should make it a little cuter or scarier rightie? hihi Just some guss =3
*winks*

-Yasumin >3 Your Sweet Friend ^_^

notbob May 20th, 2009 2:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 4657532)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6287/cerebitop.png

I'm no spriter, but this is what is wrong:
-Scratchy black lines
-Missing any signs of a mouth
-Its head is profile rather than just looking slightly left
-Its arms look like fins
-Its feet... look like random boxes you rushed in.
-Its colouring is identical to Celebi's, and yet still looks uterly wrong (except the blue bits, which are wrongly places anyway)
Suggest: Getting a spriter, searching for Celebi evolutions that have been previously made and asking the spriter if you can use it.


Whats wrong with the story?
-You STILL havent added in the line I told you was missing, so it doesn't make sense.
-The story doesn't actually kick in until the final tournament, which I am going to assume is far into the game. Don't you think thats a bit boring?
Suggest: Fix the above.

Whats wrong with the maps?
-Far too much long grass
-The colour pallette just looks wrong, like how bright the grass is compared to the trees.
-Fence has random gaps and so serves little purpose except to fill in space.
-I see no bushes, and I like bushes.
Suggest: Don't feel the need to make large maps, make them small if you want. On large maps make a defined path that twists around and make sure its not so repetitive.

The Map and story is fixed, the sprite is improved.

Conan Edogawa May 20th, 2009 2:26 PM

Did you put the new sprite up? I suggest looking at Chesu's tutorials in the pixel art section and using them to create your legendary. I'm not trying to sound rude but it isn't that good. It still has the problems others have pointed out and looks flat. So I think you should redo it completely and use the tutorials.

notbob May 20th, 2009 3:01 PM

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2669/cerebitopedited.png Here's the new sprite.

machomuu May 22nd, 2009 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notbob (Post 4659027)

...I think you need a spriter...on normal occasions, I would be nice and say "it could use some work" or "it's not that great", but in this case, I'm going to say it is very bad, I'm sorry, but there's no nice way to say it.
Why does Celebi have an evolved form anyway, and why is it a fighting type? There's no reason Celebi would evolve, and give a reason that it's a fighting type.

notbob May 22nd, 2009 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 4663563)
...I think you need a spriter...on normal occasions, I would be nice and say "it could use some work" or "it's not that great", but in this case, I'm going to say it is very bad, I'm sorry, but there's no nice way to say it.
Why does Celebi have an evolved form anyway, and why is it a fighting type? There's no reason Celebi would evolve, and give a reason that it's a fighting type.

Well, first off, I think it would be nice if Celebi evolved to be an extremely strong Pokemon. Second off, since it's fighting type, it will have powerful attacks based on using its strength. Lastly, it would be nice to have a spriter, would you like to be one?

PaulH May 22nd, 2009 10:12 AM

What might be an idea is to study poses of various pokemon, and do slight edits of those. To give yourself alittle more skill in positioning, angle and so forth for your Celebii evolution.

notbob May 22nd, 2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulH (Post 4663605)
What might be an idea is to study poses of various pokemon, and do slight edits of those. To give yourself alittle more skill in positioning, angle and so forth for your Celebii evolution.

Nah, I'd rather hire a spriter.

kevcrash May 22nd, 2009 2:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notbob (Post 4663580)
Well, first off, I think it would be nice if Celebi evolved to be an extremely strong Pokemon. Second off, since it's fighting type, it will have powerful attacks based on using its strength. Lastly, it would be nice to have a spriter, would you like to be one?


I don't think machomuu is much of spriter. Neither am I, I can take something and kind of edit from there.

notbob May 23rd, 2009 11:06 AM

Does anybody wanna sprite for me?

Druyii May 23rd, 2009 12:30 PM

To be honest, you're asking people for help, and their honest opinions about your work, and yet when they give it to you, you throw it back in their faces. There is no nice way about it, the celebi evo looks fat, and you do need a spriter, and before you say it, no, I don't sprite, I compose, that's my area. If you want help, maybe try taking constructive critisisms mate, otherwise you're getting nowhere here.

notbob May 23rd, 2009 1:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Druyii (Post 4667535)
To be honest, you're asking people for help, and their honest opinions about your work, and yet when they give it to you, you throw it back in their faces. There is no nice way about it, the celebi evo looks fat, and you do need a spriter, and before you say it, no, I don't sprite, I compose, that's my area. If you want help, maybe try taking constructive critisisms mate, otherwise you're getting nowhere here.

Noted, but I still need a good spriter.

gummybarz May 23rd, 2009 1:50 PM

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2669/cerebitopedited.png

This is the new sprite? You made it worse, First you managed to cut off
a quater of it's body, You haven't done anything to it but cut off his body.
How can you even do that?

Druyii May 23rd, 2009 2:02 PM

Mate, if you want my honest opinion, quit while your ahead, but if that option doesn't suite you, then try searching through other threads for people who are scripters, and then pm them or leave a message on their profile asking for a hand, you're more likely to get answers from them then.

Pkmn Trainer Victor May 24th, 2009 10:13 AM

yo man what's with the fat celebi man
if you need a spriter i the man your looking for.
although i'm a spriter for short time i've done
some damn good sprites. +i'm not that good
making pokemon sprites though. but i could
do overworld sprites and battle trainer sprites
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D

machomuu May 24th, 2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notbob (Post 4663580)
Well, first off, I think it would be nice if Celebi evolved to be an extremely strong Pokemon. Second off, since it's fighting type, it will have powerful attacks based on using its strength. Lastly, it would be nice to have a spriter, would you like to be one?

...what? A legendary is a pokemon that has a mystical characteristic(s) that can modify the fabric of the universe, and they were created by Mew/Arceus for an important purpose, that's why no legendaries ever evolve, and I still don't understand why it's a fighting type, for what purpose and why?

BlitŻ May 25th, 2009 8:33 AM

Okay i have to say, this game is crappy, i'm sorry it just is.
and i have a list.

first, even the description about the story bores me, i read the first sentence and i was like *yawn*
the maps are pitiful, it's like square, square ,square, and for a little spice you add a rectangle.
the sprite looks like a fat guy who had too many mcydees burgers. And e painted himself green.
the world map looks like a raped french fry.

here's some advicce, fail this hack like your first, take sometime to learn more scripting because if you failed that one sript you put up, you gonna have a hard time with ones that prove semi difficult. get reviews from your friends on storyline and map, and lastly get together with other people, because at this rate you'll never get a playable version

notbob May 25th, 2009 8:42 AM

I've just decided, through your criticism, a new Fakemon will not be added. The storyline will be scrapped, but I have to ask, WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY MAPS!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebees (Post 4675287)
Okay i have to say, this game is crappy, i'm sorry it just is.
and i have a list.

first, even the description about the story bores me, i read the first sentence and i was like *yawn*
the maps are pitiful, it's like square, square ,square, and for a little spice you add a rectangle.
the sprite looks like a fat guy who had too many mcydees burgers. And e painted himself green.
the world map looks like a raped french fry.

here's some advicce, fail this hack like your first, take sometime to learn more scripting because if you failed that one sript you put up, you gonna have a hard time with ones that prove semi difficult. get reviews from your friends on storyline and map, and lastly get together with other people, because at this rate you'll never get a playable version

1. You really need to shut up about the story and worry about your atrocious grammar. The story isn't bad.
2. Square? SQUARE? I don't see the squareness.
3. The sprite is no more. I have given up on the sprite and putting in Fakemon.
4. That is really bad language, and it is fine. =P
5. "Fail this hack like your first". I wanna smack you.

Pan!ko June 9th, 2009 4:19 AM

....
notbob, i hope ur still there as i haven't seen any news 4 a while.
I have read through the whole thread and all i saw was criticizm, some that were constructive. People were telling u 2 give up, saying all the bad points about the hack, it would put anybody off. Sure the sprite is not the best, the overworld map is a bit unnatural, there are a few grammar points which need 2 b fixed in the story but a lot of those things don't really need 2 b said twice.
People have been criticizing ur game wich u think is good, and u havent handled these peoples points well. U havent quite listened 2 wat they hav 2 say and u kept on going on about people complaining about ur sprite and that u wanted a spriter. Now im really new 2 the hacking world so i dont quite understand how all these things work but i think that if u had continued on with the game regardless of what people said, somebody could get motivated in making a sprite 4 u.
I don't quite c y people don't like ur story other than that it sort of gets 2 the plot at the end and that the whole point is 2 catch this evolution of a legendary. As somebody said, legendary aren't meant to evolve. U could just change it into some really strong grass fighting dude which is what u wanted. I could design it if u wanted help as I'm a reasonably creative guy who has a little background with drawing, but i couldn't sprite it 4 u, as i've never done that b4.
Change ur story a bit, add a few more information like starters, get more maps, show us screenshots, then people may start 2 pay attention 2 u. U shouldn't get caught up in the past with what uve done. Also what u think is good, others may not like. U have 2 bear this in mind when ur making something 4 other people 2 enjoy.
I've got a lot more 2 say but i can only bother telling u if ur going 2 listen. So send me a message if ur continuing.
I also feel sorry for u.

Pokemonmaster2437 June 9th, 2009 10:21 AM

Why did u make the new legendary a fatter celebi?


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