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kabigon May 18th, 2009 5:19 PM

I want Red to be the hardest challenge in any pokemon game EVER in hg/ss.
 
Pokemon games are generally to easy, so in hg/ss Red should be like some kind of superboss. Im talkin' all lv100 pokes, pikachu with surf, charizard with thunderpunch and earthquake, blastoise with ice beam, a curselax, a venusaur with leech seed and sleep powder, and a calm mind espeon with double team. Now THAT would be hard. And they should all be ev trained perfectly. Thats one thing i want in these remakes. It's about time the pokemon games had some semblance of challenge.

Poliwagged May 18th, 2009 5:25 PM

The old Red was very easy because of the linear movesets and poor AI that spams the strongest attack repeatedly.

The first battle against him will probably be more or less of the same, granted with different movesets though. A post-game re-battle could feature a Red with an all-100s high-IV fully EV trained team and strategic movesets.

kabigon May 18th, 2009 5:35 PM

Yes, that would work. He could also use items to heal his pokemon, making it even HARDER.

Charliezard May 18th, 2009 5:36 PM

I wouldn't mind a borderline impossible re-math with him. That would be fun xD

Poliwagged May 18th, 2009 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charliezard (Post 4653679)
I wouldn't mind a borderline impossible re-math with him. That would be fun xD

They should give his pokemon battle tower hax items and his pikachu should have a light ball and a maxed speed EV.



Thunderbolt rape.

Hypno May 18th, 2009 6:25 PM

And when one of his pokemon faints, go directly to the next one, they shouldnt ask you if you want to change your pokemon, now that would make it at least 5 times harder.

Psyburn May 18th, 2009 6:26 PM

With Gamefreaks new found love for over supplying bosses with Full restores, you have nothing to worry about.

Nnoitra Jiruga May 18th, 2009 6:52 PM

Well, if Red has Pikachu with Surf, etc. and all of those good EV's...they're cpu's anyways...and cpu's tend to be dumb.
Unless Nintendo made him a supercomputer..
0.o

Poliwagged May 18th, 2009 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginga (Post 4653935)
Well, if Red has Pikachu with Surf, etc. and all of those good EV's...they're cpu's anyways...and cpu's tend to be dumb.
Unless Nintendo made him a supercomputer..
0.o

He should have a Bellyzard, Ice beaming blastoise, annoying venusaur, curse snorlax, and calm mind espeon as well as a thunderbolt/surf/grass knot light ball pikachu.

It shouldn't be too hard to program those strategies in a CPU right? :(

iTzKaizer May 18th, 2009 8:28 PM

It's rumored that the levels of the Gyms/E4 will be increased, and so will be Red and his pokemon. We have more technology than in 2000 so the challenge will be harder, the cpu itself is harder, and not as dumb as before.

Lady Gaga May 19th, 2009 4:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poliwagged (Post 4653970)
He should have a Bellyzard, Ice beaming blastoise, annoying venusaur, curse snorlax, and calm mind espeon as well as a thunderbolt/surf/grass knot light ball pikachu.

It shouldn't be too hard to program those strategies in a CPU right? :(

hmmm...well. here is what they will probably do, in my opinion.

AnimePIkcahu: VoltTackle, Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, Iron Tail
AnimeCharizard: Overheat, otehr moves he knows.
Ice Beam Blastoise
Annoying Venusaur
Curslaz
Calm Espeon

Ya...i dont know...just a thought

Cherrim May 19th, 2009 4:31 AM

We already have a thread about Red and powering up characters. His name is in the title. Please go find it and use that.


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