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Vyro July 2nd, 2009 9:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Melodyfree (Post 4814452)
They only make third versions for main games, not remakes.

Exactly. They will not make a crystal remake. So...

If you wait, chances are you just won't ever get it.

Vyro July 2nd, 2009 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 4796040)
Merged thread with this pre-existing one.

Personally, I do doubt there being a Crystal remake as well... and it'll be even more unlikely if we see Crystal features in HG/SS. Given that there is now a pic of another NPC in front of the Burnt Tower who looks similar (but isn't necessarily the same, mind) as another who only appeared in Crystal, it's rather possible, IMO.

Yeah... there will most likely be crystal features in HG/SS

If these go the same way as FR/LG, there won't be a crystal remake

Konekodemon July 2nd, 2009 10:24 AM

I know a way Spirit Crystal could be different then Heart Gold and Soul Silver, make it a 3D game. Just a interesting idea. Would be kinda cool though. I know they won't just saying a 3D game for DS would be cool.

Another idea instead of reading text, make the characters talk with voices.

Sweet Smoochum July 2nd, 2009 10:29 AM

Why don't you just get both? You could ask for it as a present. That way, you won't have to trade with fools who ask for a Deoxys or Shaymin via wifi when they're only offering a level 1 Bidoof.

Robot From Heaven July 2nd, 2009 10:35 AM

There is a very high chance of them doing this after all they didn't remake yellow plus all the features from crystal will probably be incorparated into HG/SS except from the suicune events since that was the special part of the game

z4pd0s July 2nd, 2009 11:27 AM

a crystal remake might seem likely, but i doubt that it will happen. they only make combined versions of the brand new ones. these are just remakes, granted awesome remakes :)

Jweeson July 2nd, 2009 11:32 AM

But while you're waiting for the Crystal remake you might as well have one of them to play? And plus, no Yellow Version remake?

silentdeathproductions July 2nd, 2009 11:40 AM

actually crystal sold way better then both gold and silver, but i agree with the fact that they will make a crystal remake because nintendo is first and foremost a business, and what do businesses want to do, they want to make money. if the crystal remake has different features (perhaps a hoenn starter after region dex is completed, then more people would buy i, thus making nintendo more money. The reason they didnt make a remake of yellow was because it didnt have anything very different from red blue or green (japan). and the reason they will not release the fact that they will make one is because then people will wait to buy crystal, but not by Hg or Ss, but this way most people will buy either HG or SS, but also buy the crystal remake, which doubles nintendos profit

And also yellow was one of the worst selling pokemon games, if im not mistaken it was the worst

Guy July 2nd, 2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by silentdeathproductions (Post 4814838)
actually crystal sold way better then both gold and silver, but i agree with the fact that they will make a crystal remake because nintendo is first and foremost a business, and what do businesses want to do, they want to make money. if the crystal remake has different features (perhaps a hoenn starter after region dex is completed, then more people would buy i, thus making nintendo more money. The reason they didnt make a remake of yellow was because it didnt have anything very different from red blue or green (japan). and the reason they will not release the fact that they will make one is because then people will wait to buy crystal, but not by Hg or Ss, but this way most people will buy either HG or SS, but also buy the crystal remake, which doubles nintendos profit

And also yellow was one of the worst selling pokemon games, if im not mistaken it was the worst

The thing is, when it comes to remakes, it is only the first two games that are remade. A third extra for the games only comes out when a new generation is being released. Also, if you want to go by the marks of profit, then you will know Game Freak and Nintendo will earn more of an income with a new generation game being released over a Crystal game being remade. So, therefore I wouldn't expect a Crystal remake to be launched at all, only if done by ROM Hacking.

Not to mention, even if Yellow might have slacked in sales compared to other games, it still brought in quite a bit of proft. However, Yellow differed from RBG as it more went along the lines of the anime compared to that of RBG. So, Yellow could have still been redone because it has its differences. However, Crystal on the other hand never had a large difference in storyline compared to Gold and Silver except for the Suicune additon and a few extra changes. This alone wouldn't market enough for a huge remake when compared to HeartGold and SoulSilver. So, no I wouldn't expect Crystal to come out again, but instead a new generation within the next year or two.

z4pd0s July 2nd, 2009 12:20 PM

they seem to only make the extra 3rd one when they are totally new, case in point, crystal was made when gold and silver was new. but yellow was not made when fr and lg were re made.

Timbjerr July 2nd, 2009 2:25 PM

>_>

The lack of a Yellow remake doesn't necessarily mean there won't be a Crystal remake, but signs are pointed toward the lack of one anyways...the most noticeable of which being the lack of a playable Kris, an addition to the series in Crystal.

Plus, on the business side of things, its silly for any developer/publisher pair, including Game Freak and Nintendo, to put a significant amount of effort into remakes that generally sell less than new games when they could in fact be better off making said new games...remaking Crystal would amount to too much effort when Gold/Silver were essentially the same game with a few negligible features.

Ayselipera July 2nd, 2009 4:12 PM

I really doubt a Crystal remake for mostly the reasons already stated. If your really certain about it why don't you just wait it out and if there isn't a Crystal remake just get Heartgold or Soulsilver.

EpsilonE July 2nd, 2009 7:57 PM

This guy drives home a point actually. There's only been 1 remake so far of old games that didnt get a third addition, so we really cant jump to the fact that because FrLg didnt get Yellow, these two wont get crystal.

We didnt expect Emerald, and we had hunches of Platinum, so Crystal remake might be in there with a bonus (Per say maybe Battle frontierish thing, new pokemon, or something else)

Ecks-Dee July 4th, 2009 2:31 PM

There probably wont be a remake of Crystal at all. They only re-made Fire and Green, but not Yellow, so it will be the same for this one.

bobandbill July 4th, 2009 5:18 PM

New thread on possibility of Crystal being remade merged here.

I'll also add that interestingly, in the new trailer video, one can see that Cianwood was been extended the same way that Crystal had been (with the house and all). Seems to suggest the possibility of Eusine - and if he IS in then that's a feature from Crystal in - the Suicune side-plot.

Mitchman July 5th, 2009 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by newkid (Post 4819384)
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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 4817716)
New thread on possibility of Crystal being remade merged here.

I'll also add that interestingly, in the new trailer video, one can see that Cianwood was been extended the same way that Crystal had been (with the house and all). Seems to suggest the possibility of Eusine - and if he IS in then that's a feature from Crystal in - the Suicune side-plot.

Not to mention the ruins have dual exits meaning crystal text rooms possibly. I believe that as the ruins are smaller and round meaning something special.

261Poochyena July 6th, 2009 12:24 PM

Possible, I can't hink of any other names

Allure XI July 7th, 2009 9:22 AM

I personally doubt that there will be a remake of Crystal, unless GF/Nintendo want to put off the 5th gen. Crystal was my favorite game of all time, so this somewhat disappoints me, but I just don't see why they would, from a business standpoint.

In the past, the "3rd game" was used to extend the generation -- Yellow was used to extend the 1st gen, and Crystal extended the 2nd gen; this was seemingly because they wanted to get the most for their money with each generation. Now, in the GBA/DS era, Nintendo has two ways of doing this, with the 3rd game AND remakes.

And now I forgot where I was going with this post XD But I wouldn't count on a Crystal remake.
although if they do, please please please have Kris as the female trainer~

Tenorio94 July 8th, 2009 8:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 4664067)
I doubt there will be a crystal remake, well not that it really deserves it, it is a pretty terrible game compared to Gold and Silver. Now f l a s h don't come in here and tell me to shut up, Crystal's garbage.

Many people would disagree with you, I personally liked Pokemon Crystal a lot may be more than gold and silver since there was a cooler storyline and you could enjoy more the game also the feature of choosing between male and female made the game sell more, but thats what I think.

Black Ice July 8th, 2009 8:52 AM

Crystal only really added 2 things - Battle Tower, and a female counterpart. HG/SS will probably have both of these, so a Crystal remake seems really pointless. Besides, FR/LG never got a 3rd game either. That alone would be enough reason for me =|

0Pkmn0 July 8th, 2009 11:32 AM

there is no crystal remake but if there was sacred crystal could of been a name

Ashje July 8th, 2009 8:34 PM

I doubt they will remake Crystal because FireRed and LeafGreen didn't have a combination and they are the only double game remake so far. If there is one, it won't have a name to do with an element like ice, etc. It will have something to do with things like the hear and soul. Maybe, like Cubed said, it will be Spirit Crystal...

FreakyLocz14 July 8th, 2009 9:02 PM

Based on the fact that there was no Yellow remake, I doubt there will be a Crystal remake, I could be wrong though.

Myoko-chan July 8th, 2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenorio94 (Post 4832180)
Many people would disagree with you, I personally liked Pokemon Crystal a lot may be more than gold and silver since there was a cooler storyline and you could enjoy more the game also the feature of choosing between male and female made the game sell more, but thats what I think.

All 3 games have the EXACT SAME storyline...
(not that I hate Crystal)

Gary, the Magic Fairy July 8th, 2009 10:35 PM

Making a Crystal remake would be a good idea for them. I mean, take HG/SS, throw in a couple new events, resell as _____Crystal, and they have a game which will sell ridiculously well with practically no work.

Just like Platinum. And you all bought into that scheme, didn't you?

Also, I love all the people making patterns with JUST FRLG. That never gets old, guys. Really. Good job.

Ontopic: SpiritCrystal sounds okay, I suppose. The name reflects Crystal pretty well.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 4815069)
Plus, on the business side of things, its silly for any developer/publisher pair, including Game Freak and Nintendo, to put a significant amount of effort into remakes that generally sell less than new games when they could in fact be better off making said new games...remaking Crystal would amount to too much effort when Gold/Silver were essentially the same game with a few negligible features.

FireRed and LeafGreen were remakes, but they still are number 14 on the list of the best selling video games of all time. Doesn't sound too silly to me! In fact, when you think of it that way -- it's silly of them for not remaking Yellow!

To me, at least, the reason for not remaking Crystal would be because they have no need to -- they would be working on developing a new generation at that point. If for some reason they were trying to extend the 4th gen to stall the 5th gen (waiting for a new Nintendo handheld, perhaps), then they would remake Crystal.

Ging July 9th, 2009 12:04 AM

They (As in G/S/C) are all relatively the same game except Crystal Version is just an extension of G/S; albeit, a remake of Crystal would be highly unlikely and completely redundant.

It's a nice dream though :3

TheOnion July 14th, 2009 10:25 AM

If GF is going to make another remake I'd say do R/S and be done with the remakes, as it will just be a giant circle then.
On topic: I don't think they'd make a Spirit Crystal(Although I like the name) because FR/LG didn't get a yellow remake but that has probably been said already.

IcyArceusRider July 14th, 2009 1:02 PM

I really don't think they'll remake Crystal Version.

The reason I come to this conclusion is because they're including a lot of things from Crystal in HeartGold and SoulSilver (for example, they're putting Eusine in HG/SS). And when they remade Red and Blue into FireRed and LeafGreen they didn't remake Yellow. So...I doubt they'll remake Crystal.

But I'd like it if they did remake it. ^^ They should call it either SpiritCrystal or MindCrystal.

GodofPH July 14th, 2009 1:27 PM

Given the lack of a Yellow remake with FR/LG, I think there's little hope for a Crystal remake. Even if I consider Crystal my favorite video game of all time, this doesn't worry me. As others have pointed out, HG/SS are incorporating several features from Crystal (such as Eusine), so it doesn't bother me.

poke-ranger July 14th, 2009 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZestyCactus (Post 4662360)
There was no OceanBlue or SparkYellow or any such nonsense... I don't really see them making [Name]Crystal. But that's just my guess.

Apparently according to bulbapedia: A trademark was filed for "Pokémon WaterBlue Version", however, indicating that this renaming may have been considered.

And I don't think there will be a crystal remake. What would be the point? If they did they would release it at the same time, me thinks

Saud-Blaziken July 14th, 2009 1:49 PM

i think after that they make remakes for the 3rd gen
there gonna make remakes for yellow, (maybe blue), crystal, and maybe emerald, and if any chance platinum.

Stronkadonk July 14th, 2009 3:47 PM

As bizarre and lame of a theory it sounds, it's actually quite logical. They've been making games in three, and HeartGold and SoulSilver are just a duo. I think that it is highly possible that they will be making a SpiritCrystal for Japan due for release in 2009-2010. It would be simply amazing to see a third Johto remake such as this released.

Pokedude45 July 14th, 2009 7:22 PM

duh Its a REMAKE!!

like FR and LG there was no LY (Lighting Yellow)

R and B had Y

G and S had C

R and S had E

FR had LG

D and P had P

HG had SS

thats how its been

Sweet Smoochum July 14th, 2009 8:47 PM

There won't be a Crystal Remake because they've already added Crystal elements into HeartGold and SoulSilver. The only difference between HGSS and a new Crystal would be the female playable characters. Which isn't much of a difference.

derozio July 14th, 2009 11:15 PM

^ I agree completely with you here lily.

CrystallineSeraphim July 15th, 2009 12:20 AM

Okay... don't shout at me if this has been mentioned before... but does anyone notice a connection to the aspects of the Kingdom Hearts universe to the naming of the new upcoming pokemon games?

I mean come ON! Heart Gold... Soul Silver

Heart -> Heartless
Soul -> UNBIRTH

and if this is thought of
Body -> Nobodies

so maybe the game will be called
Crystal Body... anyone even think of that...

poke-ranger July 15th, 2009 12:42 AM

No..I dont really see that..

derozio July 15th, 2009 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CrystallineSeraphim (Post 4859254)
Okay... don't shout at me if this has been mentioned before... but does anyone notice a connection to the aspects of the Kingdom Hearts universe to the naming of the new upcoming pokemon games?

I mean come ON! Heart Gold... Soul Silver

Heart -> Heartless
Soul -> UNBIRTH

and if this is thought of
Body -> Nobodies

so maybe the game will be called
Crystal Body... anyone even think of that...

I really don't know anything about Kingdom Hearts but I definitely don't think that it has any connection with the release of pokemon games.

mew² July 15th, 2009 6:24 AM

Well I do not see Spirit Crystal making any releases in the next few years. But we did not have a remake of Yellow, and I believe Japan did not get Water/Ocean Blue, so I do not think we will have a Spirit Crystal.

bobandbill July 15th, 2009 7:31 AM

I can confidently say that there is no relation between the Kingdom of Hearts games, and HG/SS due to the names. There... is none, really. Similar theme in naming, I suppose, but these are games made by different companies, which have absolutely no bearing on each other.

mew² July 15th, 2009 7:53 AM

Bob, I was simply asking if he could use proper grammar so I can understand what exactly he was flaming about. Oh well...

Anyways, I as well doubt it is in any relation with Kingdom Hearts though. Nice thinking though. ;)

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 July 16th, 2009 7:25 PM

Crystal remake: not happinig
you know why? because crystal was a spcial edtidon...

Diglett July 16th, 2009 7:36 PM

Considering that there was no remake of Yellow, I doubt there will be for Crystal.

Sarcastic Prince July 16th, 2009 9:43 PM

There will be no Crystal Remakes, and that's for sure.
There's no need to have any. G/S is remade anyways, why need a Crystal Remake?

Red July 16th, 2009 9:50 PM

Though, there will be no remake of Crystal, I like the name PureCrystal.

Red Totodile July 17th, 2009 1:48 AM

I don't think tey are going to make 1, but if they do, there is a big chance it will be spirit crystal, or maybe mind crystal?

Percy Thrillington July 17th, 2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4858827)
There won't be a Crystal Remake because they've already added Crystal elements into HeartGold and SoulSilver. The only difference between HGSS and a new Crystal would be the female playable characters. Which isn't much of a difference.

This and the fact that there was no remake for Yellow.

Can't see it happenin'.

salmence33 July 17th, 2009 11:17 AM

I don't see a reason to make a new crystal version because they added everything from crystal to HG/SS

ReyRey-Pyon July 17th, 2009 3:39 PM

They can't remake crystal O_o
well, if they did i'd be a waste to buy it
since alot of crystals features are in HGSS, only difference the main female

and thats not much a difference, they haven't much reason to remake it >3>
plus
there is no Water blue (though the name is trademarked, there still is no actual remake of blue) or electric yellow, so yeah

Sweet Smoochum July 17th, 2009 3:42 PM

This remake, HG/SS, makes up for the lack of a Yellow remake and Crystal remake. (Any of the 493 Pokemon can follow like Pikachu except they can evolve.) You get to go to both Johto and Kanto. The only thing that was left out was Kris basically. They don't need to remake Crystal. It was a nice idea, though. :)

ZestyCactus July 24th, 2009 11:56 AM

Personally, I think Eusine's appearance rules out ANY hope of a Crystal remake. Not that it was necessary, anyways.

Mew~ July 24th, 2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4868110)
This remake, HG/SS, makes up for the lack of a Yellow remake and Crystal remake. (Any of the 493 Pokemon can follow like Pikachu except they can evolve.) You get to go to both Johto and Kanto. The only thing that was left out was Kris basically. They don't need to remake Crystal. It was a nice idea, though. :)

and the old gold, theres a new character 4 old if you look closely tip: open up in goole images a pic of the new gold and the old one youll see there 2 different people who...live in the same house...and have the same mother xD

there already putting stuff from crystal into these new remakes so theres no point 4 a "spirit crystal"

Serene Grace July 24th, 2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by powerruletheearth (Post 4896227)
and the old gold, theres a new character 4 old if you look closely tip: open up in goole images a pic of the new gold and the old one youll see there 2 different people who...live in the same house...and have the same mother xD

there already putting stuff from crystal into these new remakes so theres no point 4 a "spirit crystal"

Like I said in another thread.

Nintendo might try to squeeze as much money from these remakes as possible. They know how much people loves G/S/C and they might use that factor. You never know. 0.o

Dragonmaster91 July 24th, 2009 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Love (Post 4868098)
They can't remake crystal O_o
well, if they did i'd be a waste to buy it
since alot of crystals features are in HGSS, only difference the main female

and thats not much a difference, they haven't much reason to remake it >3>
plus
there is no Water blue (though the name is trademarked, there still is no actual remake of blue) or electric yellow, so yeah

Wait, WHAT???

They can't remake Crystal, i'd be a waste of money? I'm sorry, that's just really REALLY funny... I'm evil... :badsmile:

Anyway, on a much lighter note, there will be no Spirit Crystal.

Prove: There was no Electricity\Thunder Yellow, or am I going crazy?

wnxvale July 24th, 2009 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 4662211)
There would be no point in remaking Crystal after G/S remakes.

^ This...mainly cuz HG/SS is Spirit Crystal withthe Suicune and Eusine storyline and that nonsense xD

Pekachoo July 24th, 2009 4:18 PM

Even if they did make a remake of crystal, I think they would give a better name.
.
..
...
Like kidney crystal.

lol jk

Gary, the Magic Fairy July 24th, 2009 4:21 PM

Idk wtf everyone is going on about it being "unneeded" for. Of course it's not needed and pointless. That's never stopped them before.

If they really wanted to, they could add in enough new features for you all to buy a copy. They do it every generation: Yellow, the original Crystal, Emerald, Platinum. You fall for it every time. And if sales for HG/SS drop before Generation 5 is ready, I have no doubt in my mind they will do it again. However, with the amount of obsessive fans that have been asking, whining and begging for these games for five years, these will probably sell better than any Pokemon game ever. So they probably wouldn't want to pull focus from them, unless everyone buys their copy of HG/SS in the first week or so, and then they need something to fill the gap between this and Generation 5.

Dragonmaster91 July 24th, 2009 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenji~ (Post 4897264)
Idk wtf everyone is going on about it being "unneeded" for. Of course it's not needed and pointless. That's never stopped them before.

If they really wanted to, they could add in enough new features for you all to buy a copy. They do it every generation: Yellow, the original Crystal, Emerald, Platinum. You fall for it every time. And if sales for HG/SS drop before Generation 5 is ready, I have no doubt in my mind they will do it again. However, with the amount of obsessive fans that have been asking, whining and begging for these games for five years, these will probably sell better than any Pokemon game ever. So they probably wouldn't want to pull focus from them, unless everyone buys their copy of HG/SS in the first week or so, and then they need something to fill the gap between this and Generation 5.

Rangers, mystery dungeon, trozei, mystery dungeon. Yea, you are obviously correct.

MrPokemonification July 24th, 2009 5:10 PM

They wont make a remake for crystal. When a new generation comes out they will add a third game, but for remakes no.

Sydian July 24th, 2009 5:24 PM

I don't think they'd remake a game that was practically a remake in its own right. And SpiritCrystal? That doesn't even sound decent. I'd buy it, but definitely not for the name. No sir.

Brushfire July 24th, 2009 5:29 PM

Why would they remake Crystal when Crystal's features are in HGSS? Lol, they'd be stupid and no-one would buy it. xD
If anything, they'll release an Emerald version of the Johto region. Mhmm, they'll add a few new features, a couple of new formes, a new island and a Battle Frontier so the sales go back up.

oske July 24th, 2009 5:36 PM

I haven't seen anyone point this out...

Ensuine, a previously Crystal-exclusive character, is making an appearance in HG/SS. If he's there I highly doubt Crystal will be remade any time soon. :/

Chimchar007 July 24th, 2009 9:28 PM

a crystal remake will be awsome.

negative July 25th, 2009 11:38 AM

There won't be a "spirit Crystal".
Why?
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1.Animated sprites
2.There will be a bigger story on Suicune( Eugene is featured, etc.)

pinkpanther8u July 25th, 2009 12:09 PM

i honestly believe that there will be one
because as a little girl playing silver and gold versian,
it was kind of wierd naming my boy charactor after me (meredith)
so when crystal cam e out i was SOOOOO excited
crystal was my favorite versian ever (including dp)
so i honestly hope that there will be a spirit?crystal
you may call me dumb for wanting it after those reasons
but theres no changing me C:

Yusshin July 25th, 2009 12:14 PM

Opinion
 
I don't believe there will be a Crystal remake, mainly because there's not really much of a difference (as said by many before) between Gold and Silver. The only things that were introduced in Crystal that weren't available in G/S was the choice of gender, a slightly different plot, and the Battle Tower - all things that can easily be incoorperated into the G/S remakes.

I hope they start making something new with Pokémon from G/S remakes and on; the addition of new Pokémon every time is really tiresome. It's not interesting if all that changes is new Pokémon - it's just abused.

slim spazzy May 15th, 2010 12:13 PM

hmm i think it will be caleed pokemon clear crystal or pokemon pure crystal

Benjamin510 May 15th, 2010 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sako (Post 5801001)
hmm i think it will be caleed pokemon clear crystal or pokemon pure crystal

It;s Already not happing as we are moving one to Gen five. and the remake would be in gen four.

Guy May 15th, 2010 3:18 PM

It's pretty much been assured that a Crystal remake isn't going to happen. With HG/SS including a majority of the Crystal features, a Crystal remake itself would be pretty much the same thing. Plus, there was never a Blue or Yellow Remake when FireRed and LeafGreen came out, so it's pretty much going to be the same in this case. With the upcoming Pokémon Black and White, Fifth Generation, it's pretty much official a Crystal remake won't take place.

More importantly, please don't revive threads older than a month since the last post.


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