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♣Gawain♣ May 25th, 2009 3:19 AM

What if...
 
Let me have a question(actually it's 4, but they are interrelated).

What if the World Wars did'nt occur? What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated? What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist? What will happen to us?

Cheesymitten May 25th, 2009 3:28 AM

What if the World Wars didn't occur?
The world would be hanging on a thread waiting for awar to be set off still...
What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated?
He would have lived a full life.
What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
He would have died from starvation?
What will happen to us?
Eventually a bigger war will break out.

Well that's what I think anyway :S

Yamikarasu May 25th, 2009 6:22 AM

Well, for one we would not have nukes. We also probably never would have gone to space it wasn't for the rocket technology created in WWII. These things probably would have happened otherwise, but there's no way we'll know, will we?

templekeeper May 25th, 2009 7:39 AM

Hm...this is always fun.

The second questions was just the spark; the war started 'cause of all of the tangled alliances. Some other "small" conflict would have gotten the other countries involved elsewhere. It was probably unavoidable.

Hitler? Without WW1, hm...it'd be interesting (he'd definitely be a no-name). The Germans wouldn't have anything to be upset about, but I don't know how the Depression would have impacted it either way.


Ah, now I got my light bulb on! We'd all be gone. Without WWII, the Baby Boomer generation, our granparents' generation, wouldn't be as large as it is. Without our grandparents, well...you get the idea.

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Originally Posted by Above
Well, for one we would not have nukes.

Were the advancements in science backed by governmental funding or anything? My guess is that the scientists did their own thing and would have figured it out either way no matter what; N.Korea seems to have done it without any real help.

Legobricks May 25th, 2009 7:40 AM

What if the World Wars didn't occur?
A number of inventions would've come decades later (this includes nukes, America was already developing them). There'd be no cold war either, and swastikas would still be worn by people as a symbol of luck.

Can't answer your Ferdinand question.

What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
Depends whether he was conscripted as a soldier in WWI or joined voluntraily. If the latter is true and assuming he chose not to join, no vengeful regime.

What will happen to us?
Not much.

Yamikarasu May 25th, 2009 7:47 AM

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Originally Posted by templekeeper (Post 4675075)
Were the advancements in science backed by governmental funding or anything? My guess is that the scientists did their own thing and would have figured it out either way no matter what; N.Korea seems to have done it without any real help.

Well yeah, they were in fact backed by the government. The U.S. and other allies were desperate to get a nuke before Germany, and vice versa. If there is no need for a technological advancement, then usually it doesn't happen. The only reason North Korea wants one now is because other countries have them and it want's to be intimidating.

And if Hitler was an artist instead of... you know... then there would be a lot more kids named Adolf in Germany.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ May 25th, 2009 12:09 PM

What if the World Wars didn't occur?
I will be happy considering I'm learning this Crap in school
What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated?
Same as above
What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
same as above?
What will happen to us?
I wont be learning this =D

:t354:TG


Shadow May 25th, 2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by templekeeper (Post 4675075)
Were the advancements in science backed by governmental funding or anything? My guess is that the scientists did their own thing and would have figured it out either way no matter what; N.Korea seems to have done it without any real help.

Germany began working on an atomic bomb during WWII. The US followed suit (as suggested by Einstein, a refugee from Germany at the time due to Hitler). Hence we have nuclear weapons. If WWII hadn't happened, Germany would not have been working on one, so America (and other countries) wouldn't have tried for their own at that time. We either wouldn't have them or wouldn't have them as developed as we currently do. Also, we would never have used them in an actual attack if there was no WWII.

Though "What if..." moments that pertain to altering the time stream are never easy to answer as there are countless possibilities for what could have happened. I did have a quick scan on a book displaying "What if..." scenarios for WWII, even quite a few that led to Germany not falling. It was quite an interesting read...

parallelzero May 25th, 2009 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~ (Post 4676334)
What if the World Wars didn't occur?
I will be happy considering I'm learning this Crap in school
What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated?
Same as above
What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
same as above?
What will happen to us?
I wont be learning this =D

:t354:TG


It's an attitude like this that will eventually lead to the world forgetting about the wars and eventually making the same mistakes, unfortunately. vv;

What if the World Wars didn't occur?
Neither of them? The world would have to be some super happy peaceful funland where everything was solved by talking, as denoted by my next answer.

What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated?
Nothing would have changed. There was way too much leading up to WWI that would have caused it anyways. Secret alliances, arms races between Britain and Germany, Russia trying to get a warm water port / "liberating" their fellow slavs. These are things that would have lead to this war. They couldn't talk things out, since everyone clung onto their own ideas too heavily. So, unless these problems and more somehow never came to be, the war is unavoidable.

What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
I think he probably would have ended up in the military during WWI either way. I can't remember if Germany was forcing citizens to enlist or not, but the guy probably would have gotten hungry and broke really fast.

What will happen to us?
Hopefully we can learn from the past and not make the same mistakes, but with the world as it is that seems like a fleeting dream... Unless you were referring to if the wars never occurred, in which case I agree with the sentiment that the chances of us being born would lessen. Some couples may have met during the war, the baby boomer generation, etc.

True Reign May 25th, 2009 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Rigel| (Post 4674233)
Let me have a question(actually it's 4, but they are interrelated).

What if the World Wars did'nt occur?
What if Archduke Francis Ferdinand hasn't been assassinated?
What if Adolf Hitler stays on his course of being a darn artist?
What will happen to us?

  1. Impossible is a big word to use, but I shall use it. The World Wars would have been unavoidable. It's human nature to think and fight, which eventually will always lead us to war.
  2. Then there would have been other ways to ignite World War I.
  3. I doubt that. Adolf Hitler was a power hungry man. He would have eventually obtained political status in Germany. This is also unavoidable.
  4. Nothing would happen really. Our lives would be the same except instead of our great-grandfathers fighting in both World War's, it'll be our grandfathers. The World Wars probably would have happened in the fifties, sixties, and seventies if there wasn't a World War in the early 1900's.

BHwolfgang May 25th, 2009 6:11 PM

If none of this had happened at the moment of time in which it was supposed to happen, it'll happen anyways, but at a much later time.

1- A world war cannot be avoided, no matter how much the world denies it. With the technological advancement durin the 1900's, it'll lead up to one sooner or later.

2- I'm just going to take a whack at this and say that the Hungary-Austria empire would stick to as it is. With that being said, the shape of the countries in Europe won't be the same as today. Ottoman Empire was crumbling, so…

3- If he was to become an artist, well, we would never know if he was good, won't we? Either he'll starve because he sucks, or he'll live a quiet life, unknown to the world.

4- Hmm… it's too hard to explain.

Tinhead Bruce May 25th, 2009 10:33 PM

I wouldn't be born. What if questions are useless, as they don't mean anything. Not like someone is going to go back in time... hopefully.
Seriously, a ton of us wouldn't be alive. It's human nature that, given the choice, someone would rather have had the Holocaust occur and be alive today because of it than have the Holocaust not occur and not be alive.

EDIT: In response to Yamika...whatever: You do realize that the scientist who was the leading scientist on the Manhattan Project would still have been interested in nuclear devices... we would still have had nukes.


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