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Kristy Haruka May 25th, 2009 11:46 AM

Possible New Moves and Move Tutors Thread
 
GSC had a lot of TMs and moves not available in the newer games.

For example, the Zap Cannon and Dynamic Punch TMs were found in GSC but never again in continuing games. Also, some unique moves were found on Pokemon that were no longer used. Examples: Phanpy and Water Gun/Absorb, Nidoking/queen and Lovely Kiss, Dewgong with Peck.

I'm hoping that these TMs will return in the form of Move Tutors and the moves to be relearned by breeding or new moveset changes... New moves could be added altogether, too... like Mareep and Tail Glow and Flareon and Flare Blitz. :]

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 25th, 2009 11:49 AM

They should give Shuckle way better moves

Kristy Haruka May 25th, 2009 11:50 AM

I think Shuckle's moves are fine as they are. Its not meant to attack, but stall and defend due to its high defenses.

Ryanniny May 25th, 2009 11:51 AM

I hope they include heabutt as a move tutor, and the ability to headbutt the trees instead of stupid honey (i always got the timings wrong :( or forgot about them completely).
and i think whirlpool will be a move tutor move.

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 25th, 2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristy Haruka (Post 4676238)
I think Shuckle's moves are fine as they are. Its not meant to attack, but stall and defend due to its high defenses.

Give it some stautes affecting move that burn or a poison

maybe some stornger attacks like power gem

Kristy Haruka May 25th, 2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4676240)
I hope they include heabutt as a move tutor, and the ability to headbutt the trees instead of stupid honey (i always got the timings wrong :( or forgot about them completely).
and i think whirlpool will be a move tutor move.

Yeah I HATE honey trees. >_< Headbutt trees should come back. I have a feeling that if they keep Honey trees that will be the only way Teddiursa is found... D:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Requiem (Post 4676257)
Give it some stautes affecting move that burn or a poison

maybe some stornger attacks like power gem

Shuckle has Toxic already...

And it would be nice if it learned Ancientpower to raise all its stats. XD

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 25th, 2009 11:59 AM

or siver wind...it is a bug type after all

Kristy Haruka May 25th, 2009 12:01 PM

I think Silver Wind is only given to Bugs with wings... and Lumineon because it is a butterfly fish. xD

Artemis May 25th, 2009 12:43 PM

Yeah, I doubt the older TMs would come back, because more than like the new GSDS games will follow the DPPt TM format. Though, the older moves could return as movesets and/or breeding abilites. Though, it'll have to work in a way where it fits in with DPPt for compatability sakes.

Though, some Pokémon learnign new moves will be kind of a cool addition, but I don't know if it will be subjected to the game.

MetalMario May 25th, 2009 1:55 PM

Phanpy leaning Water Gun is kind of a funny exception, being an elephant. Give it to her as an unreachable level-up move at Lv.1, above Odor Sleuth. Let the Move Relearner teach it to her. Otherwise, a Water Gun tutor is kind of pointless.

For tutors:
  • Hydro Cannon, Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, Draco Meteor
  • Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Trick, Zen Headbutt, Sucker Punch
  • Magnet Rise, Swift, Snore
  • Ancientpower, Aqua Tail, Earth Power, Heat Wave, Rollout, Seed Bomb, Signal Beam
  • Nasty Plot, Tail Glow, Nightmare, Power Gem, Counter, Mirror Coat

I'd also alter TM/Tutor capability a bit:
  • Typhlosion: Shock Wave, Earth Power, Nasty Plot
  • Meganium: Dragon Pulse, Counter, Mirror Coat, Earth Power

Artemis May 25th, 2009 1:57 PM

^ I agree with MetalMArio, as he brings up a lot of good points. Especially about using the Water Gun move for a relearner over a move tutor.

templekeeper May 25th, 2009 2:01 PM

@Shuckle-does anybody have any idea how broken Power Trick can be if it's pulled off, especially behind a Substitute?

All I'd like to see is a Nightmare tutor. I've been disappointed ever since it's not been a TM-

Artemis May 25th, 2009 2:05 PM

Nightmare was a good move, and still is. I wouldn't be surprised if they add in some new tutor moves i nteh remake as well from what they had in DPPt.

The question remains though, will it still be shards that we must use inorder to learn a new move? and if so, will this bring back the retun of the Underground like what we had in Sinnoh?...

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 25th, 2009 4:33 PM

This would be funny!
Splash move tutors

Lynx1 May 25th, 2009 4:34 PM

Ha, I was wondering what happened to zap cannon. I would love to see some new move tutors-- nightmare would be great, as said above. Some new ice TMs would be nice. Maybe ice fang.

It'd be great if there were a way to recieve more than one of any TM. It shouldn't be easy to do so, but I think there should be a way.

Oblivion Reaper 2.0 May 25th, 2009 4:36 PM

move tutors for the fang attacks

Artemis May 25th, 2009 4:44 PM

Well the tutors might be used for special attacks for a Pokémon [I don't mean special as physical vs. special by the way, but unique]. Though, the move relearners might be able to teach a few Pokémon fang moves and such. For example, in DPPt, for Floatzel to learn Ice Fang you had to go to Pastoria City with the move relearner for a heart scale.


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