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Deoxys55 September 23rd, 2004 1:28 PM

Sceptile Moveset!
 
My sister's giving me a gold nugget on FireRed if I can fix up her "Treeky".
I just want to see other's opinon on this, I'll try nmot to get all defensive, but some moves of his are TM one-time moves, so I'll only delete them if I must.

Treeky/Sceptile @ MiricleSeed
Lv. 84
Lonely nature
Ability: Overgrow
Attacks:
Dragon Claw
Dig
Leaf Blade
-- -- (no attack)

ATK:190
DEF: 126
SP.ATK: 194
SP.DEF: 172
Speed: 240

If possible, can it made so that False Swipe is used? It's super useful, and my sis just wants a powerful Treecko for both battles and catching wild pokémon.

Toothache September 23rd, 2004 3:15 PM

In battle, False Swipe is rather useless, since you want to defeat the opponent and not capture their pokemon.

Here's what I use for Sceptile on NetBattle. It's an old standard, but it works

[email protected] Berry
EV: 252 Speed, 252 Sp Att, 6 Def
Nature: +Speed, - Att
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Leaf Blade
Hidden Power Fire

Now, since this is in-game, and it doesn't look like you've EV trained that Sceptile at all, I'd say you need to go read up on it.

Deoxys55 September 23rd, 2004 3:35 PM

Treeky/Sceptile @ MiricleSeed
Lv. 84
Lonely nature
Ability: Overgrow
Attacks:
Bulk Up
Solarbeam
Sunny Day
False Swipe

ATK:190
DEF: 126
SP.ATK: 194
SP.DEF: 172
Speed: 240

I haven't EV trained it, and my sister thinks it's useless to do it. :p Anyway, since Treeky's attack is raised by Overgrow, MiricleSeed will help raise attack too, and with Bulk up and Sunny Day, he should have a heck of a SolarBeam, right?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm just an all-out attack type person who isn't any good with moveset. XD

Frostweaver September 23rd, 2004 3:40 PM

Bulk Up is illegal for Sceptile, and it boosts attack not special attack. Overgrow activates only when you're almost dead, and miracle seed's power boost is so little that it won't make any difference at all for Sceptile.

Check the Pokemon Battledex for Sceptile's entry, and how to use it.

Toothache September 23rd, 2004 3:41 PM

Bulk Up is definately a wasted move here, since all of Treecko's power is based on Special Attack. Grass moves are based on Special Attack, and Bulk Up only increases his Attack and Defence, something which is very useless for him.

Making him a Sunnybeamer (Sunny Day + Solarbeam combo) is a very bad move, because its just asking for a fire type to toast him to death. Sceptile is fast, but there are things out there which are faster, and if he doesn't take them down he's dead himself.

EV training is also worth the effort, since it makes the difference between OHKO and 99% damage sometimes, and that little sliver of life can be just enough for your opponent to survive and kill you instead.

Deoxys55 September 23rd, 2004 3:42 PM

Um.. what's the battledex? XD I'm stupid.

Toothache September 23rd, 2004 3:45 PM

Just go here, there's a whole section devoted to Sceptile:

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=15065

Deoxys55 September 23rd, 2004 3:54 PM

Okay, so..

Treeky/Sceptile @ Leftovers
Lv. 84
Lonely nature
Ability: Overgrow
Attacks:
Leech Seed
Substitute
Leaf Blade
False Swipe

And then I EV train it in Speed and Sp. Atk?

Toothache September 23rd, 2004 4:25 PM

Actually, since you're at such a high level, all your EVs are probably spent already. Go and breed a new Sceptile, do the EV training first (Speed and Special Attack), then level him up.

Deoxys55 September 23rd, 2004 4:29 PM

O.o Okay. Thanksies people! ^_^

Spike Razzor September 23rd, 2004 7:41 PM

This set works for me. I maxed out Speed and Sp.Atk. I also use Dragon Claw over Crunch, 2hkoed R-Dancing Kindgra o.O!

Sceptile @ Lefovers
Modest
Leech Seed
HP Fire/Protect
Dragon Claw/Crunch
Leaf Blade

Febbie8 September 23rd, 2004 7:49 PM

:S my sceptile is :P the first of my pokemon to be lv 100 :)

Twiggy(lame name.. i know) @ --nothing
Rash
Leaf Blade
False Swipe
Dig
Dragon Claw
... my stinky cousin changed his move set when i was on vaca... >=(

Frostweaver September 23rd, 2004 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Razzor
This set works for me. I maxed out Speed and Sp.Atk. I also use Dragon Claw over Crunch, 2hkoed R-Dancing Kindgra o.O!

Sceptile @ Lefovers
Modest
Leech Seed
HP Fire/Protect
Dragon Claw/Crunch
Leaf Blade

And... want to explain just how did Kingdra spare your life by not using ice beam? O.o;;

Spike Razzor September 24th, 2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
And... want to explain just how did Kingdra spare your life by not using ice beam? O.o;;

Dragon Claw! More than half on basic Kingdra, Kingdra goes into Rain Dance. Ice Beam, Sceptile isn't dead, almost. Dragon Claw, KO.

Demonion September 24th, 2004 1:01 PM

[email protected]/lum berry
- Leaf Blade
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch/HP Water
- Substitute/Leech Seed

Frostweaver September 24th, 2004 2:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Razzor
Dragon Claw! More than half on basic Kingdra, Kingdra goes into Rain Dance. Ice Beam, Sceptile isn't dead, almost. Dragon Claw, KO.

oh... thought that rain dance was already in effect o.o;

Spike Razzor September 25th, 2004 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
oh... thought that rain dance was already in effect o.o;

Septile would of lost for sure, unless it got a lucky critical.

Kairi September 27th, 2004 6:58 PM

I’d go HP ice over Dragon Claw. @[email protected] Dragon Claw has just about one use and Kingdra’s it. HP ice will do much better on Salamence and Flygon, etc. Any water type more or less pwns Kingdra anyways, even if it goes HP elec.

Spike Razzor September 28th, 2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi
I’d go HP ice over Dragon Claw. @[email protected] Dragon Claw has just about one use and Kingdra’s it. HP ice will do much better on Salamence and Flygon, etc. Any water type more or less pwns Kingdra anyways, even if it goes HP elec.

Blah, if a Modest Houndoom's HP Ice can't KO it (Salamence), when why bother =.=;;. It will D-Dance after into Aerial Ace and OHKO Sceptile.

Iveechan September 28th, 2004 11:55 AM

coughThunderPunchisonSceptile'srosterinEmeraldcough

Of course, you'll have to wait for the game to come out for that. But they finally made Sceptile into the ultimate grass type special sweeper.

Frostweaver September 28th, 2004 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Razzor
Blah, if a Modest Houndoom's HP Ice can't KO it (Salamence), when why bother =.=;;. It will D-Dance after into Aerial Ace and OHKO Sceptile.

It's called "make it easy for your quick attacker to finish salamence off next round." =) And actually Houndoom and Sceptile's sp.atk aren't too far apart. HP Ice won't score OHKO, but it'll do a decent minimum of 75% damage.

Kairi September 29th, 2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iveechan
coughThunderPunchisonSceptile'srosterinEmeraldcough

Of course, you'll have to wait for the game to come out for that. But they finally made Sceptile into the ultimate grass type special sweeper.

Thunderpunch doesn’t do a lot for it though that HP ice and Leaf Blade can’t. o_o; It gets Gyarados, but for other waters it has Leaf Blade, and for most flying it has HP ice.
Gyarados, off-hand is the only real use for Thunder Punch on it.

Spike Razzor September 29th, 2004 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
It's called "make it easy for your quick attacker to finish salamence off next round." =) And actually Houndoom and Sceptile's sp.atk aren't too far apart. HP Ice won't score OHKO, but it'll do a decent minimum of 75% damage.

What the... Why would you try and take on soemthing you know you can't OHKO? And Salamence + 1 dance will end up backfiring on the next Pokemon that comes out, it will do serious damage or even OHKO it. Salamence is a very broken creature IMO. I let this guy named Chris D-Dance once, then the thing sweeped my whole Sunny Day team...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi
Thunderpunch doesn’t do a lot for it though that HP ice and Leaf Blade can’t. o_o; It gets Gyarados, but for other waters it has Leaf Blade, and for most flying it has HP ice.
Gyarados, off-hand is the only real use for Thunder Punch on it.

Thunderpunch can do more damage to Flyers than HP Ice. And it doesn't need stat reduction like HP Ice.


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