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Coro Coro Scans (June) - Discussion
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We have more info on the Jirachi now - it's an event Pokemon, given out in Japan (and more specifically, McDonalds - leastways, they have a significant role in the handing out of them - however there is some confusion on whether Jirachi will be entirely given out via local Wireless or not) for D/P/Pt. It is said that trading it to HG/SS will unlock a new area, rumoured to be called 'Edge of the Night Sky'. It comes with the moves Wish, Confusion, Rest, and Draco Meteor. Comes with a Liechi Berry as well - and it's downloadable in Japan from the 19th of June, to the 17th of July. Latest on the list - the new boxart is revealed! Spoiler:
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Hoenn weather trio confirmed, pokedex art and screens, Johto map seen in backround almost fully, Jirachi info, More Pokemon following, a lot of screens, Cynthia and Arceus info, and some preorder gifts. |
I just can say 7 words (maybe more 8D)...
OH MY GOD! I will buy this game... It is just awesome! Why haven't they shown us the heroine? =( |
Thats if they are in and lol Silver looks like mars and Cynthia is hopefully part of the game. Things just get more and more epic. Ah Arceus is mentioned do not pay attention to cynthia.
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i want to get this game so badly now
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i hope that plus sign doesn't mean that you need both to activate the Rayquaza event
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Ah darn that sucks but it means you need to buy both games to get one Pokemon. Doesn't matter for me as I would get both anyway.
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As long as they do not have crap stats I would be happy.
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Well, hurrah for early leaks once again. (Didn't quite expect them today though, but eh).
The Hoenn legends roaming is...unexpected. I didn't think that'd happen, tbh. But it appears it is the case now. Wonder if they'd get a storyline? (One kinda hopes so, as Hoenn legendaries just walking around Johto when they should be a region and an ocean away kinda warrents an explanation). It seems to suggest (but far from confirm) the possibibility of a National Dex sort of thing, where the Kanto/Johto Pokemon are only available until you beat the Elite Four - curiously there is only the mention of the Elite Four, however - maybe there is no other requirement? I wouldn't assume such a thing though at this stage, given the limited info. Huzzah for Silver Art - I liketh, have to say. Meh on the very-similar-looking battle system to Platinum, Elm seems... a touch creepy-looking on first impressions (never quite liked his look though). Three not-that-clear screenshots out there - one looks kinda like a lab (Elm's, I'd assume), and the one next to the Team Rocket girl appears to be a cave. Maybe Slowpoke Well, or the cave before that, possibly, are my first guesses. Background looks like to me part of the Johto Map as well. |
Oh yeah just thought I should mention, the roaming tidbit is just speculation. There was no real basis to make that translation from that scan (of what we could see at least) I think I know the answer, but if this is "post-elite four," if Kanto really is in the game, does that mean after beating the Johto elite four, or after beating the Kanto elite four? If I had to pick... I think it would be after the Johto Elite four... :/ I'm pretty sure that was considered the "ending" of the game last time... (the place where the credits first rolled)
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How Ancient Pokémon that are supposed to be sealed under secret chambers in the Hoenn Region are now roaming over Johto? Geez, Pokémon Lore is going to the $%&# with this... once again.
At least they should explain WHY they are roaming Johto. Marketing is seriuosly deteriorating Pokémon Storyline. I liked Elm and Silver, they look neat. Team Rocket Grunt has a big fail on her: orange "R" symbol. We all know that TR brand symbol is red... Oh, and that PokéBall in Silver's hand. Is that a Heavy Ball? |
I like rival more than Gold, can i choose him ? *^_^*
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HE'll be unplayable though, I'm pretty sure - hopefully they expand on his personality some, though. Note - it is expected some more scans will come sooner or later - they will be added to the 1st post when that happens. In the meantime, keep posts on topic, and yadda yadda yadda. |
Ahahaha!
That picture made me laugh! You see son, if you breed a Kyogre with a Groudon, you get a Rayquaza. Very interesting. If the 3rd Gen's are in there now, I ponder what normal Pokemon will be available... |
Okay, that are awesome news.. or?
Well, but in my opinion, Groudon in HeartGold and Kyogre in SoulSilver would be better. Why? See... Groudon lives on land, not in the seas... as well as Ho-Oh. Kyogre lives in the Seas like Lugia. That would be better, but... Groudon and Kyogre will be ROAMING Pokemon? Thats a joke, or? A Groudon is naturally so fast, that it can easily move from one location to another... And the best will be, when you see on you map: "Oh, Groudon is now on Route 40, i must hurry up!"... yea hurry up, use Surf, and catch Groudon in the ocean.... .___." The picture of the Rival is good, but that hair .__. |
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As for the roaming part - actually, it is unknown if they will roam or not - many have assumed this, but apparently it does not say this. Or leastways, as far as we know. EDIT: Arceus in HG/SS? Pic below - appears this way though. Maybe. http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.jpg It apparently differs from Platinum's (note the appearance of Cynthia there), and looks like an event. Very little known on this thus far, though... =/ More minor edits! Taken from a post made by yaminokame: Quote:
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More on it: the dialogue apparently says 'Of the three lives, you have been given the right to choose one of them.' Sounds like it's in reference to Palkia/Dialga/Giratina? =/ Apparently might be the Arceus movie event now.
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Kyogre? That's too awesome. [/worships Kyogre like a religion] Nintendo must've got my emails. <3 Really though, was not expecting that. XD Silver art looks rad, and the Arceus event sure seems... interesting. >:) |
Well, it's sounding to me like there will be some fighting in each game, such as Lugia having to take care of Groudon and vice-versa. That would be the only way I could explain why they'd put Lugia and Groudon in the same game, as they have nothing in common. :/
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That was just the fanboy in me hoping I'd get to see an epic clash like R/S/E. xD
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This is definitely one of the most interesting piece of news yet. I definitely think having Groudon in SoulSilver fits as well as having Kyogre in HeartGold fits too. The reason why is because Pokémon seems to like doing things the opposite way at times. I don't know how the whole roaming idea will work, but if it based like how it was in Emerald [caves and locatiosn around the region], then I'd say it'll be alright. It'll also add some nice weather effect to the game if done so. As for Kyogre, I can picture that being a roaming Pokémon if you have both in one game as it flies and is very fast.
Having them in the region, awaken makes perfect sense though. I mean the events with them occured nearly three years ago for the game's timeline. This being, these three legendaries were awakened, but when they were put to rest [or caught] it never explained exactly where they went. So, I guess this fits nicely, plus to capture Groudone once more [because I'm getting SoulSilver] will be bringing back a lot of old memories since my very first game was Pokémon Ruby. Now, on to the amazing new personas for some characters. Porfessor Elm, defintiely kept his look, but he has definitely improved since the originals. I see nothing to complain about him. In his lab however, there is a plus side seeing as they kept the healing machine on the lower floor again. With this being said, then it may very well be that the mother continues to save and spend our money for us like in the orignals as she never was able to give us rest because of this. Silver, he looks perfect. They barely made a dent with him and has still kept that vengeful look in him. His hair actually does look similar to the Silver in the Pokémon Chronicles introduction. This is a nice improvement for him indeed. He's kept his rough look, his posture is pretty well done, his eyes are not as dull or strange as the new female and Gold may have, and not to mention he doesn't look extremely weak or skinny. I like how they've made improvements with him and has definitely made him more modern with the older feel of things. As for the Team Rocket female, well it looks pretty well done. I'm simply hoping it is the scan that makes the 'R' look orange and not red. Anyway, this is only the female version of Team Rocket, as I'd like to see the new admins and the male grunts as well. Also, you know if they show any scan with a possible Giovanni, something will be up with him possibly [now this is strict speculation here on my part]. The battle scene, defintiely resembles that of Platinum and I expected it to be this way. Nothing really much different there and it's cool that it showed the battle with Silver over anyone else. Gold's back sprite as well looks decent [just wish the scan was a bit better quality, oh well]. Now, the biggest news pretty much is Cynthia and Arceus. It is definitely a different view from that of Platinum. Also, could this mean that an event for Arceus will be held for HGSS as well possible and add in a storyline twist with Cynthia to cameo?...Anyway, seeing this and having the new 12th movie coming out in Japan Soon and of course eventually to be released in the rest of the world, it makes me think. I strongly believe that there will be a certain event for Arceus in America now and with the 12th movie to be out next year as well, I wonder if the game will have a release date close to the release of the movie as well. It has a possibility of it, and may just happen. I'm glad that we get to see Cynthia again though, and it makes me wonder what other possibilities these remakes will have. I'd expect a few more scans to be out sometime later this week. I have to admit though, these were very beneficial scans and it has kept me wanting the game more and more. |
I didn't think it was possible for them to make Silver look even more badass, but they did it.
Also, Kyogre in HeartGold? Awesome. |
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Cynthia being in appears to be part of this event (which seemingly is a movie event) which is fair enough, I suppose. And we probably can expect a few more Coro Coro scans today/tomorrow, most probably. |
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At the time of having the legendary beasts in FRLG was so we could obtain most of the Johto Pokémon to fill our PokéDex. However, now that the games are progressing and people are more playing the newer games, they will need to include some Hoenn type Pokémon to fill the Dex. Preferable those that are harder to catch. Plus, it actually makes sense to add these three Hoenn Legendaries. For one, the three Kanto birds were included in Platinum, so it isn't needed in the remake really. Secondly, there is Kanto, so maybe they may include some of the Kanto legendaries to make catchable, such as Mewtwo in the Cerulean Cave. Not to mention, the three Regiis were found in Platinum, so they won't need to be put in the remakes either. Now, the Johto is back, so the legendary beasts and other Johto legendaries will be available for the players. With all this included between Platinum and the remakes, that basically leaves out Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza. So, it isn't about changing the game from the definition of a remake, but more or less allowing the game players to catch the unobtainable legendaries that were not available without migration or in Platinum.
I think a lot of people will like this. Some may even think it could be reference to a remake of the Hoenn games, but as good as that sounds to some, it probably won't. Not yet anyway as things are still early for everyone. Not to mention, with the remakes and DPPt alone, players can basically catch and fill nearly the entire Pokédex now. Quote:
EDIT: By the way, I was reading on serebii.net about the whole Arceus event. It was stated there that "possible from a Japanese Forum" if you trade over the Movie Arceus into HeartGold and SoulSilver then, you can unlock a level 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina. Now I don't know how true this may be, but here is what it basically said: LINK: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml http://i42.tinypic.com/124h2bs.jpg |
Awesome :D
Honestly, I don't see Kyogre and Groudon as roaming Pokémon. |
I just don't see that happening, I mean, the possibility of getting them might be there, but at Lv. 1? To the best of my knowledge no legend has ever been obtainable at level 1 because they can't breed. :/
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Regigigas was at lvl 1 in plat.
Oh noes, I dont want Groudon in my game >: |
Ah, completely forgot about the worst legend in creation. xD
That's probably why they didn't instantly mark it as scam then. |
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Needs more info/confirmation though, really. Only 'real' stuff is what one can see from those scans - what they may mean exactly is still up in the air. |
Yeah, Serebii has published plenty of information before that has come back false, so it's best not to get our hopes up.
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I just hope they dont overload these with legends like they did in plat...I mean Mew, Mewtwo, The dogs/Cats/Wtf ever they are, the birds, Lugia and Ho-oh, possibly Celebi,and the two fails(I luv Rayquaza) from Hoenn are enough.
Still not wantig Groudon in my SoulSilver though. That actually tempts me to buy Heartgold instead(since Kyogre is better than Groudon) |
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Oh yeah, there was a legendary level one Pokémon which would have been Giratina in Platinum. Though it is hard for me to believe seeing as though we've already had Dialga and the rest in every 4th Gen Game so far and the level we catch them at isn't bad either. We'll see though, maybe the scans that are expected later this week, may say something about it...or not. |
It appears that Elm will have his own sprite this time. The Ground/Kygore event seems interesting enough. By what I can see the Silver sprite looks great. The artwork for Elm, Silver, and the rocket grunt looks good. Silver's is a bit more modern like the rest of them. I wish I knew what the Arceus event said. Oh and I'm sorry how I acted in the previous post I was just excited.
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ya now thats a game, cant wait for them to release pictures of kanto and mnt silver, seems the kyogre groudon thing is something that definitely gives a sign, it seems nintendo is moving away from relying on sapphire/ruby to obtain the 3 gen legends, oh well hope these games are not dsi exclusive
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silver reminds me of someone from the anime... dunno who though... paul perhaps?
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Anyway, that's pretty cool, but Groudon in Soul Silver? That's really swaying me towards Heart Gold... I just have to keep telling myself that it doesn't matter and I won't use the legends anyway XD |
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Ontopic: The new art for Silver makes him seem kinda girlish (says my brother not me XD) |
In the first post I put a much clear shot of the Arceus thing.
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I think they did a great job with redesigning Prof. Elm and Silver, they feel new, but still give you that nostalgic feeling.
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Groudon in SS,my favourite legendary on the version im getting ^^ Heh,Silver's hair is kinda,well,girly.Dont take me seriously but it doesnt fit him at all,he looks like mars now xD |
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By the way, is it me or is the new close up picture with Cynthia look a little different. I mean her OW sprite seems a little altered from that of what was in DPPt [I'm not sure, it may just be the scan giving it a different look a bit]. |
I like the new character artwork. Especially Silvers, and his sprite looks good (from a distance that is). Although I wish Gold's backsprite could have been better, it seems too condensed. But thats not a big issue, I'll get used to it.
Anyways, that looks like a time machine in Elm's lab. |
I didn't really feel like reading through the whole thread so someone might have already said this, but I personally do not like the ideas of the Hoenn legends and/or possibly Sinnoh legends. This is a 2nd Gen remake and in my opinion, they should keep it as close to G/S/C as possible. I mean, if these guys show up POST-National Dex, I'd be happy. I just hope they don't get integrated into the main story line.
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I think Silver looks awesome. Prof.Elm too, I'm glad they changed the TR Grunt, the old one looked so much like Jesse, I wonder what the male TR Grunt will look like. Probably exactly like the old one but updated grapics.
D: I really don't want Groudon, I they've changed it around I think it would have made more sense like that. Groudon, is fire (sorta) and so is Ho-oh. Kyougre is water, and so is Lugia. Unless they were trying to get the opposite of the main POkémon of the game. Oh well at least I don't have to play Emerald, or trade them over from Diamond. Edit: I hope that they don't put the Hoenn legends into the main storyline, that would just ruin everything. Hopefully they come after you get the National Dex, because that would be after you beat the Elite Four. |
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I strongly believe all of this will be posted after the National Dex. Seeing Team Rocket around and all, it seems like they'll still be up to their usual crimes they committed in the original versions [Gold and Silver]. I'm not sure if it was stated in the scans, but even if it wasn't, the game would make more sense to hold it back until after receiving the National Dex altogether. Now there are new areas in the game, or so seen. So, maybe this time there will be seperate Elites however. With this, it'll allow us to get the National Dex earlier than before and it'll also enable peolple to get the loose new legendaries in the game as well as have enuogh time to get to Arceus. If this is so, then I think I'll like it, because it means two time the fun and maybe it'll give Kanto a chance at a story within it.
Though, I admit Johto has been altered a bit, having some new Mushroom like location, Cianwood City getting a canal a propose, and a few other details. Seeing Johto expanded is a nice touch though, as the game did seem a bit too small even with two regions included. Still though, I believe the Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Arceus placements will be held until after recieving the Nat. Dex. As for why Groudon is in SoulSilver and Kyogre is in HeartGold, I think it is basically to follow the opposite lead purpose. It doesn't bother me, and like said it's really another reason for Nintendo and GameFreak wanting us to buy both versions over one. |
Does anyone know if Arceus will be only statue or we could capture him?
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lol sweet I usually get both games (and plus the third if there is one) The Arceaus And Cynthia event look very interesting =)
@Discostick: It's been confirmed that the three birds + Mewtwo will be in it =O |
I think the canal area is new. That is too deep and far left to be Cianwood but why add it. Either way until we get a map we cannot be sure.
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I am getting Heart Gold now and since Groudon is in the Soul Silver then that makes my mind up.
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i think i just died (L).
silver looks awesome :D and i love how you can get groudon/kyogre & rayquaza :D, though i reckon kyogre should be for silver, and groudon for gold ;| hopefully they'll get their own caves in kanto? they could easily be in cerulean cave, cos nothing else was there last time and you couldnt go in. Rayquaza would probably be roaming, i can easily see that, the others, never. or they could give rayquaza its own tower on cinnibar island or something :S Quote:
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The three birds I doubt it cause of platinum so do not listen to him.
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Anyways thanks for explaining :) |
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Edit: I just skimmed over a post, Cianwood City has a canal, or was that a speculation? |
I am honestly not surprised to see the 3 Hoenn legends in this game. They are most likely adding them in the game because of the DSi and its lack of a GBA slot. The 3rd generation games are slowly becoming obsolete since the DSi was released. By the time the games are released in Japan, plenty of people will probably have that system because it would be almost a year since the DSi was first released in Japan. There will most likely be a good amount of people who only have the DSi and not one of the other two. Instead of just buying another DS just to obtain a few Pokemon from the old 3rd generation games, Gamefreak is adding some of those exclusive Pokemon into HG/SS like it already has with the Regis and the legendary birds for Platinum. They still need [email protected], the starters from Kanto and Hoenn, the Pokemon that only appeared through having a GBA slot such as Seviper and Ekans, Mewtwo, Celebi, and maybe a Jirachi event before all 493 Pokemon can be obtainable without the need of the 3rd generation cartridges.
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Well there's a beach-ish area in the scans so people are guessing it to be Cianwood, though it could just as well be any other area...
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I actually cant wait any longer the anticipation is boiling my blood xD
These are fantastic thank you!! |
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I'm really looking forward to seeing one of the three of them get born :) I think it'll be interesting ^^ |
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Second, remember that this takes place 3 years after R/S/E/. It's quite possible that after the player defeated them they simply migrated to Johto/Kanto. The same thing happened with the Birds and Golems. |
What does that mean though? And also how does Arceus and Cynthia pop up? Another point is that was a small picture of a whole page. We still have 2 points and a lot of pages left so lets see. I mean each point takes up 2 pages no?
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Well it was speculated that with the sighting of movie Arceus you'll activate the lv. 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina, so we'll see if this is true later on. However, on talk about the three bird, I doubt they'll appear seeing as they were available in Platinum. Mewtwo however could have a slight chance, but we'll need further information on that later on. I'm speculating that since this game is probably not a full featured DSi-only game, they may still continue the GBA slot feature to access other generation Pokémon like in DPPt [I'm not sure, but just maybe]. It is possible and can happen, and then they'll make the next generation game either DSi-only capable or made for a new system overall.
Though, the best news so far for me is getting to see more pictures of Johto. There is speculatiosn of whether or not Cianwood now has a canal or if it is part of a new location they've added into the game. It is also being rumored by some that a new Elite may be added in from one of these new locations, but isn't sure as the pictures are still kind of unclear. So far so good though, and I'm expecting in later scans we'll end up getting insight on gyms, and hopefully the story of the game next month most likely. EDIT: The location of Arceus seems like no where ever seen before in Johto, so I'm wondering if they brought back a kind of similar area closely related to that of the Distortion World [/?]. |
It was confirmed on Serebii.net some time ago...
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I'm jumping around like a giddy school girl XD Squee the musical possiblilities. I sooooo want the RSE legends to get their music back. And omg wont it be awesome to have the D/P/Pt legends music ported as well.... ^^; I'm overjoyed. This sunday is gunna be awesome. Leaks here leakes there... I'm totally not obsessed o.o
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That Mewtwo and the Three Birds would be in HGSS, though I believe he is mistaken, as I have seen no such message on Serebii.
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However, seeing as the games are becoming less dependant for the GBS slots,the idea of putting in the Hoenn Legendaries fits as pretty soon there would have been no other way to obtain it if the GBA slots aren't continued anymore [such as like the DSi]. Not to mention, these are basically the only non-event legendaries needed as event he three Regiis were put into Platinum as well. |
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maybe after you get to kanto he'll appear at some team rocket event and give you a ticket to go to an island, like cresselia/darkrai event ? also, whys everyone speculating about cianwood having a canal? you can't make out anything about the map from those screens? |
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I'm happy to see that Silver looks
cooler in the remake. I always thought he looked really stupid in the originals. |
The Rival's design is creeping me out. Must be the hair, 'cause it looks a bit like Mars got gender reassignment surgery.
Also, in the pic where the Hero is talking to Elm, I can sort of make out the name 'Soul'. Are they playing this on SS, or is that the Hero's new default name? |
What the hell? Cynthia in Gold and Silver? That has to be the stupidest thing they've ever done. Nintendo is screwing up this game too much now.... she better not have a part in the main plot, but rather just some thing AFTER the plot. Kyogre Groudon and Rayquaza are in the worst gen (3rd) and should BELONG there. Not in this awesome game.
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Ah complaints about sidequests and event only things are magical complaints,no?-
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I checked Serebii just before this thread! XD
I like Silver's new Sugimori Art. And the Groudon/Kyogre/Raquaza and Dialga/Palkia/Giratina/Arceus event looks awesome! :D I can't wait until the JP ROM comes out. XD |
I think those that speculated if theres a second region it may be Hoenn may be right it seems, seeing as it needs to only cover Mewtwo from the first generation in the game, but it needs to cover all the legendaries from Hoenn.
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Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno were already in Platinum so why would they be in this game?
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A second region, being Kanto, is more than likely to happen. As it is part of the originals and contains needed items, such as the Silver Wing. Not to mention, without Kanto there wouldn't really be an Elite, unless one of these new locations gives Johto its own independent Elite Four. Quote:
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I love the way they did the rival, I just completely love the art.
Looks sooo much better than the older versions, can't wait for Soulsilver. |
First, I'd like to say thank you to Todoroki Is for providing these scans. Thank you.
Two, I must say that after looking at these scans, I really want this game now. I think I'll like it way better than the original. I'm really loving the rival's new look. (I just had to draw a pic of him, and I did.) He looks more masculine than his old self if you ask me. (Now I have to find a new name for him, just because DP took him under their wing and made him more sinister. XD) I know some people claim he looks like Mars, but I'd say he looks more like he could be Mars' brother. He's supposed to have Red hair. If anything, I'd say Mars took his hair style. ;) JK. Gold came before Diamond. Just saying. ;) Anyway, his old and new hair style still look similar, the only real difference is length and that patch of hair that's sticking up. (He looks almost like the chronicles anime version of himself.) I like the new outfit. It's basically the same feel of the old look, but touched up a little bit. However, the top somehow reminds me of Groudon and Kyogre. (Mostly Kyogre.) But it makes sense because you can capture those legendaries in these games. I'm glad they showed the battle between you and your rival. I really like his new pose. (I kind of wish the pic was a little bit clearer, but I like the new Gold's back sprite. He's so cute! I might choose him over the new girl! XD) (Hopefully Pokemon Sunday will show the battle.) Another thing I'd like to mention is Professor Elm's new artwork. I like it a lot better than the original and he seems like he's younger as well. I really like his new lab. I see that the machine that heals your Pokemon has returned. I'm happy about that. Though, I wish I could have seen a clearer picture of it, so I know exactly what his sprite looks like. As for the Rocket grunt, I miss the old hair style, but this one is nice, too. I like her pink hair. Team Rocket=awesomest evil organization ever (in my eyes.) Speaking of the Rocket Grunt, the two pictures to the right of her are intriguing to me. I wish I could see them better to get an idea of where they are located. Spoiler:
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When you have to tell a middle-aged person that they've got an anime character's gender wrong, that means they were drawn correctly.
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Yay! luckily Kyogre is in HeartGold, but i still won't pick unless i've seen the exclusives.
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Wait what's in the first spoiler? All I can see is a question-mark-box xD
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I love how Silver's hair style is like Roark's now.. xD;
That was sarcasm, by the way, but I suppose it could be worse. I'll like the character regardless. Hurray for finally seeing Silver in a scan. \o/ |
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