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Retro Bug June 12th, 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4742817)
Yes but this time before the guy that blocks you they put a patch of the greenest grass there so now we can catch it before the gym. Ayup!

Where do you see this patch of greenest grass? And how do you know you can catch it there? (sorry, confused. D<)

Kentaz June 12th, 2009 11:47 AM

Yep, you could catch a Mareep right after the 1st gym.

And I'm in love with the pokedex's new interface. It looks so nice with the white squares and all. Also, is that the Tohjo Falls and route 27 at the low right corner of the map?

Mitchman June 12th, 2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Discostick. (Post 4742828)
Where do you see this patch of greenest grass? And how do you know you can catch it there? (sorry, confused. D<)

Look:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/b6/Route_32.png
That is route 32 with Violet City in the north and the ruins to the left.
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/goldwobbu.jpg
^ is that area all the way on top before the guy stops you due to no badge. So that means the grassy patch could have mareep before the first gym.

Artemis June 12th, 2009 12:54 PM

Seeing as how they've been showing for Pokémon stats, and in other ares of the scan, I would think Mareep will be available before the first gym. It'll definitely be a change for the game and a nice addition to have on a person's team before the first gym leader. If this is true though, then I would assume that there may be some differences in location of Pokémon. Such as what was done with Platinum Pokémon compared to Diamond and Pearl's. I would actually like it if they do that because then we can finally and hopefully get better Pokémon earlier without going to the extreme. It'll also be nice if they switch some of it around with more Johto Pokémon being located earlier than before as well.

I'd think we can expect some changes like this in the remake seeing as they've done so much to it already. I'm at least satisfied that we have the newer generation Pokémon to wait until after Post-National PokéDex.

Ryanniny June 12th, 2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4742900)
Look:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/b6/Route_32.png
That is route 32 with Violet City in the north and the ruins to the left.
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/goldwobbu.jpg
^ is that area all the way on top before the guy stops you due to no badge. So that means the grassy patch could have mareep before the first gym.

or the guy blocking us has moved up, and is now in the little area by the berry tree.
either that, or mareep's gonna be available later in the game
cos they won't give us a mareep to use against the 1st gym.

Yuoaman June 12th, 2009 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4742905)
or the guy blocking us has moved up, and is now in the little area by the berry tree.
either that, or mareep's gonna be available later in the game
cos they won't give us a mareep to use against the 1st gym.

Why not? We could get a Grass Type before the first gym in DPP...

Ryanniny June 12th, 2009 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuoaman (Post 4742912)
Why not? We could get a Grass Type before the first gym in DPP...

thats true, but then any of the three starters (provided you evolved chimchar) have a type advantage over the 1st leader, so why not have 2.
as none of the starters in GSC had a type advantage over the 1st gym its not that feasible that they'd throw one in for HG/SS.
but what do i know
i just think it'd be strange that, even with the ridiculously low levelled gym, they'd still offer you a route, other than geodude, of getting a type advantage over the gym leader.

Yuoaman June 12th, 2009 1:19 PM

Well the levels may well be increased, to compete with the increased difficulty of Platinum.

Ryanniny June 12th, 2009 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuoaman (Post 4742918)
Well the levels may well be increased, to compete with the increased difficulty of Platinum.

true, but either way, with training at sprout tower and stuff, theres not really any need to have a mareep that early.

"Shadow Lugia" June 12th, 2009 2:13 PM

Anyone else think they might make a new water route to the new area from Olivine?

Mitchman June 12th, 2009 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4742971)
Anyone else think they might make a new water route to the new area from Olivine?

Doubt it the gatehouse to the park connects to that new area if you look closely. Lol this time the park won't have the Pokemon follow just thought of that. OH! Cynthia. She could be met when buying a secretpotion for the ampharos at the lighthouse.

"Shadow Lugia" June 12th, 2009 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4742974)
Doubt it the gatehouse to the park connects to that new area if you look closely. Lol this time the park won't have the Pokemon follow just thought of that. OH! Cynthia. She could be met when buying a secretpotion for the ampharos at the lighthouse.

There could always be a second way there, but it is unlikely.

sonicisrad June 12th, 2009 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4742817)
Yes but this time before the guy that blocks you they put a patch of the greenest grass there so now we can catch it before the gym. Ayup!

The guy that gives you the miracle seed no doubt?

Oh btw, why is Gold talking to a Steelix?

Artemis June 12th, 2009 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicisrad (Post 4742987)
Why is Gold talking to a Steelix?????

Gold is seen talking to a Steelix because it is referencing to how you can talk to your Pokémon that is folloing you first on your party. Your Pokémon that follows will sometimes be found holding an item, so at times you can turn to talk to it and see if you have recieved anything new. It is a great feature and it was more than likely based off of how they did things in Amity Square from DPPt.

sonicisrad June 12th, 2009 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4742997)
Gold is seen talking to a Steelix because it is referencing to how you can talk to your Pokémon that is folloing you first on your party. Your Pokémon that follows will sometimes be found holding an item, so at times you can turn to talk to it and see if you have recieved anything new. It is a great feature and it was more than likely based off of how they did things in Amity Square from DPPt.

Oh yup that is just darn cool. Unfortunately I haven't played D/P/Pt so I wouldn't have a clue what you're on about. :)

Retro Bug June 12th, 2009 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4742900)
Look:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/b6/Route_32.png
That is route 32 with Violet City in the north and the ruins to the left.
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/goldwobbu.jpg
^ is that area all the way on top before the guy stops you due to no badge. So that means the grassy patch could have mareep before the first gym.

Maybe the guy happens to be farther down. (Text blocking him?) I don't think we should have Mareep before the first gym, that is just plain crazy. The first gym is easy enough without even needing Mareep!

Artemis June 12th, 2009 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicisrad (Post 4743002)
Oh yup that is just darn cool. Unfortunately I haven't played D/P/Pt so I wouldn't have a clue what you're on about. :)

Yes, yor first team member will be able to follow you and occasionally it'll pick up random items. More than likely these items will range from berries to accessories that are used in Pokémon Contests. When I referred to the Amity Square from DPPt, I meant a certain area in a city called Hearthome City. It is a location where you can bring in a certain Pokémon to walk with you, such as Pikachu, and every 200 steps it'll pick up an item for you. So, this is what they have basically done with the HeartGold and SoulSilver remakes. However, they have expanded the idea allowing all 493 Pokémon to follow us anywhere in the region of Johto and Kanto.

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Originally Posted by Discostick. (Post 4743061)
Maybe the guy happens to be farther down. (Text blocking him?) I don't think we should have Mareep before the first gym, that is just plain crazy. The first gym is easy enough without even needing Mareep!

Yes, seeing as this is only what we can see on a DS screen, it is possible the same character is farther down where we cannot see him. If this is so, then Mareep may still be catchable after the first gym like in the originals. Whichever way it may be, it is not a huge big deal to me. The first gym leader is not extremely hard to defeat like you have stated and catching a super effective type for Folkner will only decrease the level of difficulty from the start of the game. Nevertheless, I'd still hope to see some repositioning of the Pokémon to appear in certain different locations from the original, but we'll see how far of an extent this idea maybe taken, if at all.

Retro Bug June 12th, 2009 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4743090)
Yes, seeing as this is only what we can see on a DS screen, it is possible the same character is farther down where we cannot see him. If this is so, then Mareep may still be catchable after the first gym like in the originals. Whichever way it may be, it is not a huge big deal to me. The first gym leader is not extremely hard to defeat like you have stated and catching a super effective type for Folkner will only decrease the level of difficulty from the start of the game. Nevertheless, I'd still hope to see some repositioning of the Pokémon to appear in certain different locations from the original, but we'll see how far of an extent this idea maybe taken, if at all.

I think that the character happens to be farther down, or perhaps the character in that image has already beaten the first gym, and he's ready to travel down there. It's not a huge deal to me either, but I don't really think they need to reposition Mareep it was perfect where it was at already. Everyone knows that Falkner wasn't hard to beat. I hope the reposition some other Pokémon, can't think of any off the top of my head. But Mareep just isn't one. But if it happens I'm not going to flip out, I'm going to catch that darn Mareep.

Speed June 12th, 2009 3:49 PM

Sorry if someone asked this already but, if we pre-order both games, do we get all 3 figures? Or just the Arceus one?

Sweet Smoochum June 12th, 2009 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed (Post 4743134)
Sorry if someone asked this already but, if we pre-order both games, do we get all 3 figures? Or just the Arceus one?

All three. XD Quote from Serebii: "If you preorder, you will get a Ho-oh figure for Heart Gold, a Lugia for Soul Silver, AND an Arceus if you preorder both."

^_^

I'm so happy that we got to see more scans today. It has made my day. I really like how they put the Pokedex, Pc box, Pack and the status screen on the touch screen. (I'll probably use my brother's Ds since my touch screen no longer works.) I also like how they made Cherrygrove City look. It's so pretty. ^_^ The Ruins of Alph look better than I thought. I've noticed on the map of Johto, the tracks are in Goldenrod and extend to that route south of Violet city. That looks cool, too. I'm so looking forward to this game. ^_^

WindBlows June 12th, 2009 4:11 PM

Yeah, I know the second one has been already pointed out but that tower?
It is not Olivine City... :O

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3718/whatthel.png

Speed June 12th, 2009 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 4743190)
Yeah, I know the second one has been already pointed out but that tower?
It is not Olivine City... :O

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3718/whatthel.png

It looks more like a stadium/carnival thingy then Pal Park.

Artemis June 12th, 2009 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 4743190)
Yeah, I know the second one has been already pointed out but that tower?
It is not Olivine City... :O

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3718/whatthel.png

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Originally Posted by Speed (Post 4743203)
It looks more like a stadium/carnival thingy then Pal Park.

This is actually what a lot of people have been questioning. I agree though that it just looks like too much to be a Pal Park. Not even the Pal Park portrayed in DPPt had appeared that big. There is a possibility it could be the Battle Frontier though as there is some similar resemblance to that of the one found in Platinum. I think if it is anything big we can expect it to hear about it either by the next release of scans or as we near closer to the Japanese release. Also, I would think another Pal Park in the remakes wouldn't be extremely needed seeing you can basically fill the PokéDex just between DPPt and HeartGold and SoulSilver, but we'll see later on what it may be.

Pokedra June 12th, 2009 4:50 PM

The scans look very interesting.

It brings up sooo many new questions, like what part will the weather trio play?

Bagel June 12th, 2009 4:56 PM

i will definetly get heartgold and if you need more offical info on the game go to www.bulbapedia.com and look up heartgold. its got the best updated info.

and i think that groudon kyogre will both be available in each game and that rayquaza will be unlocked after in each game once you battle/catch groudon and kyogre

and that there will probably be pal park in the games and like in d/p/pl will be unlocked after you get the national dex ^_^

i'm pretty shure thats a scan of a fake or glitched game!! just look at it! you can tottaly tell


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