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Swift! June 10th, 2009 5:59 AM

I didn't think it was possible for them to make Silver look even more badass, but they did it.

Also, Kyogre in HeartGold? Awesome.

Ooka June 10th, 2009 6:06 AM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4735215)
I don't know how the whole roaming idea will work, but if it based like how it was in Emerald [caves and locatiosn around the region], then I'd say it'll be alright. It'll also add some nice weather effect to the game if done so. As for Kyogre, I can picture that being a roaming Pokémon if you have both in one game as it flies and is very fast.

I hope they don't pull that number again. I'd prefer they just leave them in a cave somewhere and you go get them. It makes it so much harder to IV/Nature catch Pokemon when they can run from you. That is of course if they can run from you.

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4735215)
In his lab however, there is a plus side seeing as they kept the healing machine on the lower floor again.

In game his lab has always had one floor. o.o

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4735215)
Also, you know if they show any scan with a possible Giovanni, something will be up with him possibly [now this is strict speculation here on my part].

I'm hoping they'll put some stuff in this game about Giovanni. I actually see him as an interesting character, while some people just see him as another Team Rocket member.

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4735215)
I'm glad that we get to see Cynthia again though, and it makes me wonder what other possibilities these remakes will have.

Tbh, it's starting to look more like a new game and less like a remake. I mean, Hoenn legends are cool and all, but they don't really go along with the original storyline (Unless of course Nintendo pulls something out of their.... well, you get the idea). Now we've got Cynthia in the mix, if I start seeing anything about taking a boat to Sinnoh I'm going to murder someone. >:o

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4735215)
I'd expect a few more scans to be out sometime later this week. I have to admit though, these were very beneficial scans and it has kept me wanting the game more and more.

I don't expect anything else major this week. :/

bobandbill June 10th, 2009 6:11 AM

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In game his lab has always had one floor. o.o
However, in a screenshot/videos of New Bark Town, Elm's Lab from the outside has a balcony and stairs leading up to it.
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I'm hoping they'll put some stuff in this game about Giovanni. I actually see him as an interesting character, while some people just see him as another Team Rocket member.
Note that in FR/LG, they mention that Giovanni has a 'kid' with 'red hair', which is believed to be Silver.

Cynthia being in appears to be part of this event (which seemingly is a movie event) which is fair enough, I suppose.

And we probably can expect a few more Coro Coro scans today/tomorrow, most probably.

BeachBoy June 10th, 2009 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ɐʞoo (Post 4735238)
Tbh, it's starting to look more like a new game and less like a remake. I mean, Hoenn legends are cool and all, but they don't really go along with the original storyline (Unless of course Nintendo pulls something out of their.... well, you get the idea).

See FireRed and LeafGreen + Legendary Beasts; the Hoenn legends aren't that fresh of an idea, really.

Ooka June 10th, 2009 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 4735250)
However, in a screenshot/videos of New Bark Town, Elm's Lab from the outside has a balcony and stairs leading up to it.
Note that in FR/LG, they mention that Giovanni has a 'kid' with 'red hair', which is believed to be Silver.

He said again so I was just letting him know there was one floor the first time. xD

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 4735250)
And we probably can expect a few more Coro Coro scans today/tomorrow, most probably.

Awesome, I figured maybe a few important Coro Coro scan a week on a good week, haha.

Artemis June 10th, 2009 6:20 AM

At the time of having the legendary beasts in FRLG was so we could obtain most of the Johto Pokémon to fill our PokéDex. However, now that the games are progressing and people are more playing the newer games, they will need to include some Hoenn type Pokémon to fill the Dex. Preferable those that are harder to catch. Plus, it actually makes sense to add these three Hoenn Legendaries. For one, the three Kanto birds were included in Platinum, so it isn't needed in the remake really. Secondly, there is Kanto, so maybe they may include some of the Kanto legendaries to make catchable, such as Mewtwo in the Cerulean Cave. Not to mention, the three Regiis were found in Platinum, so they won't need to be put in the remakes either. Now, the Johto is back, so the legendary beasts and other Johto legendaries will be available for the players. With all this included between Platinum and the remakes, that basically leaves out Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza. So, it isn't about changing the game from the definition of a remake, but more or less allowing the game players to catch the unobtainable legendaries that were not available without migration or in Platinum.

I think a lot of people will like this. Some may even think it could be reference to a remake of the Hoenn games, but as good as that sounds to some, it probably won't. Not yet anyway as things are still early for everyone. Not to mention, with the remakes and DPPt alone, players can basically catch and fill nearly the entire Pokédex now.

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Originally Posted by ɐʞoo (Post 4735263)
He said again so I was just letting him know there was one floor the first time. xD

Trust me, I already knew there was one floor before, I guess it was just a misunderstanding with wording. No big deal really.

EDIT: By the way, I was reading on serebii.net about the whole Arceus event. It was stated there that "possible from a Japanese Forum" if you trade over the Movie Arceus into HeartGold and SoulSilver then, you can unlock a level 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina. Now I don't know how true this may be, but here is what it basically said:

LINK: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

http://i42.tinypic.com/124h2bs.jpg

Pyrax June 10th, 2009 6:32 AM

Awesome :D
Honestly, I don't see Kyogre and Groudon as roaming Pokémon.

Ooka June 10th, 2009 6:37 AM

I just don't see that happening, I mean, the possibility of getting them might be there, but at Lv. 1? To the best of my knowledge no legend has ever been obtainable at level 1 because they can't breed. :/

Detox June 10th, 2009 6:39 AM

Regigigas was at lvl 1 in plat.

Oh noes, I dont want Groudon in my game >:

Ooka June 10th, 2009 6:41 AM

Ah, completely forgot about the worst legend in creation. xD

That's probably why they didn't instantly mark it as scam then.

bobandbill June 10th, 2009 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ɐʞoo (Post 4735314)
I just don't see that happening, I mean, the possibility of getting them might be there, but at Lv. 1? To the best of my knowledge no legend has ever been obtainable at level 1 because they can't breed. :/

Regis (or leastways, Regigigas in Platinum) says otherwise. Admittedly, it is a bit odd to see such a thing once again, but considering there's Arceus involved and the dialogue involves the choice of seeing the 'birth' out of three Pokemon (and Dialga/Palkia/Giratina are related to Arceus as it created them), it's kinda valid, if it turns out to be true. (Given this discussion came from Japanese sites as well, it's somewhat got a tad more credibility to it for the time being).

Needs more info/confirmation though, really. Only 'real' stuff is what one can see from those scans - what they may mean exactly is still up in the air.

Ooka June 10th, 2009 6:45 AM

Yeah, Serebii has published plenty of information before that has come back false, so it's best not to get our hopes up.

Detox June 10th, 2009 6:46 AM

I just hope they dont overload these with legends like they did in plat...I mean Mew, Mewtwo, The dogs/Cats/Wtf ever they are, the birds, Lugia and Ho-oh, possibly Celebi,and the two fails(I luv Rayquaza) from Hoenn are enough.

Still not wantig Groudon in my SoulSilver though. That actually tempts me to buy Heartgold instead(since Kyogre is better than Groudon)

Artemis June 10th, 2009 6:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon12345678901 (Post 4735327)
WOW!!!!!! ARE THESE REAL?!?!? I MUST GET THESE GAMES!!!!

Yes, you can totally believe in them. They are the most recent CoroCor scans released and it has definitely given out quite some unexpected news. It is said that some may be released later on this week again, but we'll see.

Oh yeah, there was a legendary level one Pokémon which would have been Giratina in Platinum. Though it is hard for me to believe seeing as though we've already had Dialga and the rest in every 4th Gen Game so far and the level we catch them at isn't bad either. We'll see though, maybe the scans that are expected later this week, may say something about it...or not.

Pokemon12345678901 June 10th, 2009 6:53 AM

It appears that Elm will have his own sprite this time. The Ground/Kygore event seems interesting enough. By what I can see the Silver sprite looks great. The artwork for Elm, Silver, and the rocket grunt looks good. Silver's is a bit more modern like the rest of them. I wish I knew what the Arceus event said. Oh and I'm sorry how I acted in the previous post I was just excited.

billi1000 June 10th, 2009 7:24 AM

ya now thats a game, cant wait for them to release pictures of kanto and mnt silver, seems the kyogre groudon thing is something that definitely gives a sign, it seems nintendo is moving away from relying on sapphire/ruby to obtain the 3 gen legends, oh well hope these games are not dsi exclusive

Leitz09 June 10th, 2009 7:36 AM

silver reminds me of someone from the anime... dunno who though... paul perhaps?

Shem June 10th, 2009 7:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Argent Crusader (Post 4735035)
How Ancient Pokémon that are supposed to be sealed under secret chambers in the Hoenn Region are now roaming over Johto? Geez, Pokémon Lore is going to the $%&# with this... once again.
At least they should explain WHY they are roaming Johto. Marketing is seriuosly deteriorating Pokémon Storyline.

Nobody ever said that there were only one of each legend, in fact, we've already seen multiples. Three sets of dogs have apeared in Kanto, Johto, and pokemon ranger (fiorre?). We've already seen 2 sets of the birds in Sinnoh and Kanto. Multiples of Lugia and Ho-oh, one set in Johto and one in the Sevvi Islands. Not to mention we already saw a multiple set of the Hoenn Legends in Ranger... And I haven't played Shadows of Almia but I'm sure that there is multiples of legendaries there.


Anyway, that's pretty cool, but Groudon in Soul Silver? That's really swaying me towards Heart Gold...

I just have to keep telling myself that it doesn't matter and I won't use the legends anyway XD

Pokemon12345678901 June 10th, 2009 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkai (Post 4735459)
Nobody ever said that there were only one of each legend, in fact, we've already seen multiples. Three sets of dogs have apeared in Kanto, Johto, and pokemon ranger (fiorre?). We've already seen 2 sets of the birds in Sinnoh and Kanto. Multiples of Lugia and Ho-oh, one set in Johto and one in the Sevvi Islands. Not to mention we already saw a multiple set of the Hoenn Legends in Ranger... And I haven't played Shadows of Almia but I'm sure that there is multiples of legendaries there.


Anyway, that's pretty cool, but Groudon in Soul Silver? That's really swaying me towards Heart Gold...

I just have to keep telling myself that it doesn't matter and I won't use the legends anyway XD

Yeah, they never said that there was only one legendary. You can know that by watching the anime. Baby legendaries, multiple Shaymins, and many others.

Ontopic: The new art for Silver makes him seem kinda girlish (says my brother not me XD)

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 8:06 AM

In the first post I put a much clear shot of the Arceus thing.

Yuoaman June 10th, 2009 8:11 AM

I think they did a great job with redesigning Prof. Elm and Silver, they feel new, but still give you that nostalgic feeling.

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuoaman (Post 4735526)
I think they did a great job with redesigning Prof. Elm and Silver, they feel new, but still give you that nostalgic feeling.

Silver looks like the love child of Mars and Giovanni so i really cannot get the nostalgic feel besides his jacket. Elm though is as careless as ever.

Spinosaurus June 10th, 2009 8:38 AM

Yes!

Groudon in SS,my favourite legendary on the version im getting ^^

Heh,Silver's hair is kinda,well,girly.Dont take me seriously but it doesnt fit him at all,he looks like mars now xD

Artemis June 10th, 2009 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowampharos (Post 4735588)
Yes!

Groudon in SS,my favourite legendary on the version im getting ^^

Heh,Silver's hair is kinda,well,girly.Dont take me seriously but it doesnt fit him at all,he looks like mars now xD

I'm at least satisfied they did not revert on cutting Silver's hair short. If they did that, then Silver might have gotten the nicer guy appearance rather than it matching his current game personality. Actually, his shirt is my favorite part of him as it keeps his old look, but it brings it more to a modern style.

By the way, is it me or is the new close up picture with Cynthia look a little different. I mean her OW sprite seems a little altered from that of what was in DPPt [I'm not sure, it may just be the scan giving it a different look a bit].

Asztrik June 10th, 2009 8:56 AM

I like the new character artwork. Especially Silvers, and his sprite looks good (from a distance that is). Although I wish Gold's backsprite could have been better, it seems too condensed. But thats not a big issue, I'll get used to it.
Anyways, that looks like a time machine in Elm's lab.


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