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Sublime June 10th, 2009 8:56 AM

I didn't really feel like reading through the whole thread so someone might have already said this, but I personally do not like the ideas of the Hoenn legends and/or possibly Sinnoh legends. This is a 2nd Gen remake and in my opinion, they should keep it as close to G/S/C as possible. I mean, if these guys show up POST-National Dex, I'd be happy. I just hope they don't get integrated into the main story line.

Retro Bug June 10th, 2009 8:57 AM

I think Silver looks awesome. Prof.Elm too, I'm glad they changed the TR Grunt, the old one looked so much like Jesse, I wonder what the male TR Grunt will look like. Probably exactly like the old one but updated grapics.

D: I really don't want Groudon, I they've changed it around I think it would have made more sense like that. Groudon, is fire (sorta) and so is Ho-oh. Kyougre is water, and so is Lugia. Unless they were trying to get the opposite of the main POkémon of the game. Oh well at least I don't have to play Emerald, or trade them over from Diamond.

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I hope that they don't put the Hoenn legends into the main storyline, that would just ruin everything. Hopefully they come after you get the National Dex, because that would be after you beat the Elite Four.

Asztrik June 10th, 2009 9:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Discostick. (Post 4735623)
I think Silver looks awesome. Prof.Elm too, I'm glad they changed the TR Grunt, the old one looked so much like Jesse, I wonder what the male TR Grunt will look like. Probably exactly like the old one but updated grapics.

D: I really don't want Groudon, I they've changed it around I think it would have made more sense like that. Groudon, is fire (sorta) and so is Ho-oh. Kyougre is water, and so is Lugia. Unless they were trying to get the opposite of the main POkémon of the game. Oh well at least I don't have to play Emerald, or trade them over from Diamond.

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I hope that they don't put the Hoenn legends into the main storyline, that would just ruin everything. Hopefully they come after you get the National Dex, because that would be after you beat the Elite Four.

I agree, and puting them in would also ruin it chronologically... I mean RSE is also three years before GSC so the legendaries would already be caught (unless there is more than just one of each).

Artemis June 10th, 2009 9:13 AM

I strongly believe all of this will be posted after the National Dex. Seeing Team Rocket around and all, it seems like they'll still be up to their usual crimes they committed in the original versions [Gold and Silver]. I'm not sure if it was stated in the scans, but even if it wasn't, the game would make more sense to hold it back until after receiving the National Dex altogether. Now there are new areas in the game, or so seen. So, maybe this time there will be seperate Elites however. With this, it'll allow us to get the National Dex earlier than before and it'll also enable peolple to get the loose new legendaries in the game as well as have enuogh time to get to Arceus. If this is so, then I think I'll like it, because it means two time the fun and maybe it'll give Kanto a chance at a story within it.

Though, I admit Johto has been altered a bit, having some new Mushroom like location, Cianwood City getting a canal a propose, and a few other details. Seeing Johto expanded is a nice touch though, as the game did seem a bit too small even with two regions included. Still though, I believe the Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Arceus placements will be held until after recieving the Nat. Dex. As for why Groudon is in SoulSilver and Kyogre is in HeartGold, I think it is basically to follow the opposite lead purpose. It doesn't bother me, and like said it's really another reason for Nintendo and GameFreak wanting us to buy both versions over one.

Satoshi Ookami June 10th, 2009 9:15 AM

Does anyone know if Arceus will be only statue or we could capture him?

Silver0ice7 June 10th, 2009 9:23 AM

lol sweet I usually get both games (and plus the third if there is one) The Arceaus And Cynthia event look very interesting =)

@Discostick: It's been confirmed that the three birds + Mewtwo will be in it =O

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 9:26 AM

I think the canal area is new. That is too deep and far left to be Cianwood but why add it. Either way until we get a map we cannot be sure.

Britney's Circus June 10th, 2009 9:33 AM

I am getting Heart Gold now and since Groudon is in the Soul Silver then that makes my mind up.

Ryanniny June 10th, 2009 9:40 AM

i think i just died (L).

silver looks awesome :D
and i love how you can get groudon/kyogre & rayquaza :D, though i reckon kyogre should be for silver, and groudon for gold ;|
hopefully they'll get their own caves in kanto? they could easily be in cerulean cave, cos nothing else was there last time and you couldnt go in.
Rayquaza would probably be roaming, i can easily see that, the others, never.
or they could give rayquaza its own tower on cinnibar island or something :S

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Originally Posted by Silver0ice7 (Post 4735687)
lol sweet I usually get both games (and plus the third if there is one) The Arceaus And Cynthia event look very interesting =)

@Discostick: It's been confirmed that the three birds + Mewtwo will be in it =O

got any proof of that? :S

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 9:44 AM

The three birds I doubt it cause of platinum so do not listen to him.

yaminokame June 10th, 2009 9:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver0ice7 (Post 4735687)
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@Discostick: It's been confirmed that the three birds + Mewtwo will be in it =O

Since when was that confirmed? I've never seen anything about that more than speculation :/

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Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 4735670)
Does anyone know if Arceus will be only statue or we could capture him?

Where did you get the idea of it being a statue? The only state of Arceus that I have ever seen is in PMD Sky :/ They have not said if we can catch Arceus ingame yet, but I seriously doubt it. Arceus thusfar is ment to catch Palkia, Dialoga or Giratina, that's about all we know.

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Originally Posted by Sublime (Post 4735621)
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I mean, if these guys show up POST-National Dex, I'd be happy. I just hope they don't get integrated into the main story line.

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Originally Posted by Discostick. (Post 4735623)
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I hope that they don't put the Hoenn legends into the main storyline, that would just ruin everything. Hopefully they come after you get the National Dex, because that would be after you beat the Elite Four.

The Hoenn legendaries come in after the elite four, which is essentially the end of the main story :/ I also seriously doubt that the Arceus thing will happen before the Elite Four...

Satoshi Ookami June 10th, 2009 9:58 AM

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Originally Posted by yaminokame (Post 4735743)
Where did you get the idea of it being a statue? The only state of Arceus that I have ever seen is in PMD Sky :/ They have not said if we can catch Arceus ingame yet, but I seriously doubt it.

I meant if he'll be just standing there or we can capture it :D
Anyways thanks for explaining :)

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 4735760)
I meant if he'll be just standing there or we can capture it :D
Anyways thanks for explaining :)

Arceus I think is the one from the movie.

Retro Bug June 10th, 2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver0ice7 (Post 4735687)
@Discostick: It's been confirmed that the three birds + Mewtwo will be in it =O

Um, that's cool, but do you have any proof of this confirmed information? Because I haven't seen any.


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yaminokame:
The Hoenn legendaries come in after the elite four, which is essentially the end of the main story :/ I also seriously doubt that the Arceus thing will happen before the Elite Four...
Yes that's what I wanted. For the HL to come AFTER the Elite Four, I hadn't read yet that they did. So I was unsure. If the Hoenn Legends are going after the Elite Four, then the Arceus thing would too

Edit:
I just skimmed over a post, Cianwood City has a canal, or was that a speculation?

msdmario June 10th, 2009 10:11 AM

I am honestly not surprised to see the 3 Hoenn legends in this game. They are most likely adding them in the game because of the DSi and its lack of a GBA slot. The 3rd generation games are slowly becoming obsolete since the DSi was released. By the time the games are released in Japan, plenty of people will probably have that system because it would be almost a year since the DSi was first released in Japan. There will most likely be a good amount of people who only have the DSi and not one of the other two. Instead of just buying another DS just to obtain a few Pokemon from the old 3rd generation games, Gamefreak is adding some of those exclusive Pokemon into HG/SS like it already has with the Regis and the legendary birds for Platinum. They still need [email protected], the starters from Kanto and Hoenn, the Pokemon that only appeared through having a GBA slot such as Seviper and Ekans, Mewtwo, Celebi, and maybe a Jirachi event before all 493 Pokemon can be obtainable without the need of the 3rd generation cartridges.

Yuoaman June 10th, 2009 10:13 AM

Well there's a beach-ish area in the scans so people are guessing it to be Cianwood, though it could just as well be any other area...

seeker June 10th, 2009 10:15 AM

I actually cant wait any longer the anticipation is boiling my blood xD
These are fantastic thank you!!

yaminokame June 10th, 2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 4735760)
I meant if he'll be just standing there or we can capture it :D
Anyways thanks for explaining :)

oooh I get what you were saying now lol XD I was really confused :P No problem haha

I'm really looking forward to seeing one of the three of them get born :) I think it'll be interesting ^^

"Shadow Lugia" June 10th, 2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Argent Crusader (Post 4735035)
How Ancient Pokémon that are supposed to be sealed under secret chambers in the Hoenn Region are now roaming over Johto? Geez, Pokémon Lore is going to the $%&# with this... once again.
At least they should explain WHY they are roaming Johto. Marketing is seriuosly deteriorating Pokémon Storyline.

First, I don't think it's been confirmed that they're roaming Pokemon.

Second, remember that this takes place 3 years after R/S/E/. It's quite possible that after the player defeated them they simply migrated to Johto/Kanto. The same thing happened with the Birds and Golems.

Mitchman June 10th, 2009 10:21 AM

What does that mean though? And also how does Arceus and Cynthia pop up? Another point is that was a small picture of a whole page. We still have 2 points and a lot of pages left so lets see. I mean each point takes up 2 pages no?

Satoshi Ookami June 10th, 2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4735765)
Arceus I think is the one from the movie.

Yeah that should be it

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4735836)
What does that mean though? And also how does Arceus and Cynthia pop up? Another point is that was a small picture of a whole page. We still have 2 points and a lot of pages left so lets see. I mean each point takes up 2 pages no?

Maybe after ya transfer it something like dimension hole will appear somewhere

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Originally Posted by yaminokame (Post 4735823)
oooh I get what you were saying now lol XD I was really confused :P No problem haha

Yeah I said it in bad way xD xD

Artemis June 10th, 2009 10:31 AM

Well it was speculated that with the sighting of movie Arceus you'll activate the lv. 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina, so we'll see if this is true later on. However, on talk about the three bird, I doubt they'll appear seeing as they were available in Platinum. Mewtwo however could have a slight chance, but we'll need further information on that later on. I'm speculating that since this game is probably not a full featured DSi-only game, they may still continue the GBA slot feature to access other generation Pokémon like in DPPt [I'm not sure, but just maybe]. It is possible and can happen, and then they'll make the next generation game either DSi-only capable or made for a new system overall.

Though, the best news so far for me is getting to see more pictures of Johto. There is speculatiosn of whether or not Cianwood now has a canal or if it is part of a new location they've added into the game. It is also being rumored by some that a new Elite may be added in from one of these new locations, but isn't sure as the pictures are still kind of unclear. So far so good though, and I'm expecting in later scans we'll end up getting insight on gyms, and hopefully the story of the game next month most likely.

EDIT: The location of Arceus seems like no where ever seen before in Johto, so I'm wondering if they brought back a kind of similar area closely related to that of the Distortion World [/?].

Silver0ice7 June 10th, 2009 10:31 AM

It was confirmed on Serebii.net some time ago...

"Shadow Lugia" June 10th, 2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver0ice7 (Post 4735886)
It was confirmed on Serebii.net some time ago...

What are you referring to?

Artemis June 10th, 2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver0ice7 (Post 4735886)
It was confirmed on Serebii.net some time ago...

I check serebii.net everyday and relocate all archived news on the HeartGold and SoulSilver news. There hasn't been anything said about availability on the three birds or Mewtwo in the Gold and Silver Remakes, sorry.

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Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4735895)
What are you referring to?

He was referring to the idea of Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno along with Mewtwo being confirmed to be found in HeartGold and SoulSilver.


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