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Sweet Smoochum July 31st, 2009 2:03 AM

I hope it's out after my birthday in the US. (Or on my birthday, Feb. 24th, 2010. :))

That would better than waiting for March. ^_^ It could be a birthday present.

Tudj July 31st, 2009 4:02 AM

Even though It has been cleared up, if anyone thinks its coming out in 2011, by then im almost certain there will be another game either in pre-release or released by then in Japan. Also previously stated its just common sense they would release it in 2010, but it could possibly be later in the year as the scripting for 2 regions could take a while (worst case scenario)

Sweet Smoochum August 1st, 2009 6:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1YwWngS3Y

It says in a French magazine, Noel 2009. Does that mean the game will be out then for Europe? Or is this fake?

MadaraUchiha. August 1st, 2009 6:59 PM

Hey have announced September 12 for Japan release. So dont say Autumn/Fall as it has been announced as September 12

Sweet Smoochum August 1st, 2009 7:02 PM

They said that it might be around Christmas time for Europe. (Not Japan, because Japan's is sooner.)

Ian758 August 1st, 2009 11:00 PM

America going to announce HG and SS in September?
 
Hey, I don't post much in the Heart Gold and Soul Silver section much but I have kind of noticed something kinda odd. I was checking out the Pokemon official website today and realized that there was a Pokemon Platinum Darkrai event. I was like, "Cool!" and went to check it out, it said that the event ended September 13, which is one day after the Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver Japan release. I was just wondering if any of you guys happen to notice that. Lets hope that they quickly release it, like super dub it like sonic the hedgehog. Please post your thoughts also!

WisherWisherWish August 1st, 2009 11:47 PM

It would be nice but i belive it'll be out in march, since its being released the same month as platinum was last year in japan.

Sweet Smoochum August 2nd, 2009 12:02 AM

A French magazine said Noel 2009. It might be out by then for Europeans.

It's in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1YwWngS3Y

"Shadow Lugia" August 2nd, 2009 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4935073)
A French magazine said Noel 2009. It might be out by then for Europeans.

It's in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1YwWngS3Y

That's really early.

If it's coming out that soon for Europe then I wonder what it'll be for North America.

processr August 2nd, 2009 12:16 AM

NoA can't translate the game until it's completely finished, lest they translate something out of context. Hence, there will certainly be at least five or six months between the Japanese and American releases of HGSS. I would imagine that the very earliest at which we oculd expect HGSS to be released in America is February, and even that is a very generous estimation; March or April look more likely. It certainly won't be released in 2009.

Mitchman August 2nd, 2009 12:30 AM

Not to mention sales of Mystery Dungeon would be somewhere near ziltch if they release during the same time frame.

Youji August 2nd, 2009 3:15 AM

Mhhh but maybe Pokémon Japan is fooling us and it's already done and the finished version is being translated right away to provide a - at least close - world wide release this time :P
(Please read this post with sarcasm - don't take it serious)

Mitchman August 2nd, 2009 3:22 AM

Actually everybody should disregard Get's comment. He is pretty wrong. Right now at this point of the game its pretty much finished and all the final touches are being made. Its too late into its cycle to be unfinished and all. Not to mention the games are pretty much trademarked for the states so whenever they want they can announce the games.

Ryanniny August 2nd, 2009 3:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4935685)
Actually everybody should disregard Get's comment. He is pretty wrong. Right now at this point of the game its pretty much finished and all the final touches are being made. Its too late into its cycle to be unfinished and all. Not to mention the games are pretty much trademarked for the states so whenever they want they can announce the games.

true, and as half of the text is already provided from the originals (if im not mistaken, the text was pretty much identical in FR/LG compared to Red + Blue) so it might not take as long as platinum did.

Mitchman August 2nd, 2009 4:00 AM

Nah it will still take its time. They need to reread everything make sure its fine have all the new text in and all. I doubt anything before spring but you never know. I mean hell over here word of it has been given to the biggest game magazine. Just bought it and they got some crazy winter thing going on for europe as well.

bobandbill August 2nd, 2009 4:10 AM

Since this is basically a release date speculation thread, I've merged it with the pre-existing one.

I'd be somewhat surprised if it was before March for America, personally - Feb is a chance, but I don't see it happening, is my prediction.

Note as well there may be more to translate given there'd be two regions in this game, potentially, and it's not all they do too. (Fixing glitches, testing, etc...).

jdnjdn August 2nd, 2009 4:59 AM

I think that the North American version will be released at about April or March. just a guess. but gold and silver have 2 regions, so there will be more words to translate and stuff. o.O but, I guess their translating it right now because the japanese version is finished already, right? *sigh* I think nobody knows the real date of release except Nintendo right now. :P

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 6:14 PM

HG/SS US Release Date Confirmed? Also Available for Pre-order
 
Amazon.com now has HeartGold and SoulSilver available for pre-order. Both pages say they'll be shipped starting on December 31st, 2009.

Here is the HeartGold page and here is the SoulSilver page.

Even if it turns out to be incorrect, then at the very least the US versions are available for pre-order.

シルバー August 3rd, 2009 6:17 PM

Sadly that can be subjected to change at any time but I hope it doesn't :c

lx_theo August 3rd, 2009 6:18 PM

If it actually comes out about then, then YES!


If not, then my expectations stay where they were

Awesome. August 3rd, 2009 6:23 PM

i only have one word OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG

Samme! August 3rd, 2009 6:58 PM

MAN! THAT WOULD MAKE MY CHRISTMAS! :D

But the amazon pages don't look very promising... It says Gold not Heart Gold and Silver instead of Soul Silver

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by samme426 (Post 4941994)
MAN! THAT WOULD MAKE MY CHRISTMAS! :D

But the amazon pages don't look very promising... It says Gold not Heart Gold and Silver instead of Soul Silver

It says the platform they're on is the DS, though, so it has to be them.

ckn August 3rd, 2009 7:05 PM

yeah idk about this... i also recal a video on youtube that had a section saying there was a magazine in europe announcing there release date for HG&SS would be december 2010....

PsychoTines August 3rd, 2009 7:06 PM

For an Amazon page it looks incredibly sketchy.
And if it WAS for sure wouldn't there be an announcement somewhere other than just Amazon?
Meh, it doesn't bother me, I'm pre-ordering the Jap SS tomorrow =D
I'm just pointing out, How can we believe this?

Tyrantrum August 3rd, 2009 7:22 PM

This is obviously fake. The only people that would believe this are ones that are overly excited for HG/SS. There might be others, like myself, that are overly excited, but know this is fake. Do you know how many months it would take for translation and getting rid of any bugs the Japanese forgot to fix?

But, if this was true, oh, how happy I would be? :D Holy shizz this would make me the happiest kid in the freaking universe!

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind~ (Post 4942059)
This is obviously fake. The only people that would believe this are ones that are overly excited for HG/SS. There might be others, like myself, that are overly excited, but know this is fake. Do you know how many months it would take for translation and getting rid of any bugs the Japanese forgot to fix?

But, if this was true, oh, how happy I would be? :D Holy shizz this would make me the happiest kid in the freaking universe!

I completely understand being skeptical. However, I don't think it's right for you to say people who believe this are flat-out wrong when you don't have something that completely proves your claim.

There are a few reasons I'm leaning towards this being true:
First, Amazon's a pretty trustworthy site, and from what I've seen they tend to get their release dates correct.

Second, the English translations have been coming out quicker over the years. All Pokemon games since Emerald have come out in Japan during September. Emerald came out in the US in May, D/P came out in the US in April, and Platinum came out in the US in March. The translations have been becoming easier to do.

Third, HeartGold and SoulSilver have been in development since Diamond and Pearl came out. That would give the people a fair amount of time to translate the games into English by the end of this year, since most of the work had been completed. It would also explain why Nintendo of America trademarked the names a day or two after the remakes were announced in Japan.

Fourth, these games are remakes. The majority of the text will probably be recycled script from the originals.

Lastly, it would explain why the US Pokemon site has announced Acreus so early. PUSA might be in a rush to give it out at an event before the remakes are released, considering the Shinto Ruins event.

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure about this. I'm just saying there's a fair chance it's true.

MadaraUchiha. August 3rd, 2009 8:56 PM

Lol you guys will believe anything without looking at all details. Ya'know how it comes with the Pokewalker thingy? Well since it comes with that its price is higher (See the japanese versions for details) it should be around 44-49$ US or Canadian. While Amazon says 34$ (Its not a normal pokemon game!) So this is obviously fake. I even used a money thingy where it told me how much $ the games are by checking the Yen and US $ prices.

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 9:19 PM

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Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4942283)
Lol you guys will believe anything without looking at all details. Ya'know how it comes with the Pokewalker thingy? Well since it comes with that its price is higher (See the japanese versions for details) it should be around 44-49$ US or Canadian. While Amazon says 34$ (Its not a normal pokemon game!) So this is obviously fake. I even used a money thingy where it told me how much $ the games are by checking the Yen and US $ prices.

No clue where you got that from.

Platinum costs 4800 Yen which is about 50 US dollars.

HG/SS cost 4980 Yen which is about 52 US dollars.

PsychoTines August 3rd, 2009 9:21 PM

thats a good point I overlooked death3xx.
I'm ording the Jap tomorrow and the site I'm ordering from is about 60$
I'm in full agreement with you.

MadaraUchiha. August 3rd, 2009 9:31 PM

Also they have been releasing English version 1 month earlier from the previous game. So it should be out in February. Also Amazon never said Soul Silver and just because its for NDS doesent mean its Soul Silver. Amazon has been known to post fake games. Like a pirated emerald. So they could have just made Silver onto NDS with D/P/PL graphics and nothing has changed.

Wings Don't Cry August 3rd, 2009 9:38 PM

It looks too fake to even come close to being real, they don't even have a cover.

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4942339)
Also they have been releasing English version 1 month earlier from the previous game. So it should be out in February. Also Amazon never said Soul Silver and just because its for NDS doesent mean its Soul Silver. Amazon has been known to post fake games. Like a pirated emerald. So they could have just made Silver onto NDS with D/P/PL graphics and nothing has changed.

As I said earlier, a lot of the text is probably going to be recycled from the originals, considering they're remakes.

In addition, you're comparing a pirated GBA game and an old game with new graphics like they're the exact same thing. Pirated games are easy to make. Taking an entire GBC game and remaking it for the DS's graphics are not.

rikudaman: How does it look fake? Also, a large amount of games don't have a cover on a pre-order page when they first go up.

Wings Don't Cry August 3rd, 2009 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4942359)
As I said earlier, a lot of the text is probably going to be recycled from the originals, considering they're remakes.

Do you really think you can just translate something like that in a few moments because it's a remake, otherwise these games would have been out in Japanese a long time ago.

Your post says more about you than the games.

"Shadow Lugia" August 3rd, 2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rikudaman (Post 4942378)
Do you really think you can just translate something like that in a few moments because it's a remake, otherwise these games would have been out in Japanese a long time ago.

I really don't think it would.

Even in games that aren't remakes, the script is probably one of the easiest things to put in. When you compare it to gameplay, music, features, graphic tiles, and things like that, it really doesn't take long.

yoshikiller995 August 3rd, 2009 10:10 PM

Ahh it would be so nice if it came that soon after the Japan release, but I don't see it happening. I'm thinking March at the earliest.

Haza August 3rd, 2009 10:53 PM

Im all for the release date but this doesn't look right. Mainly the names. I will wai until more details come in to say anymore. As of now I wouldnt say its confirmed.

harig07 August 4th, 2009 12:29 AM

You can get the ROMS...I'm busting my ass off trying to get HeartGold and SoulSilver ROMS so I can have them BEFORE ANYONE ELSE :D

Wings Don't Cry August 4th, 2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by harig07 (Post 4942624)
You can get the ROMS...I'm busting my ass off trying to get HeartGold and SoulSilver ROMS so I can have them BEFORE ANYONE ELSE :D

You know the people who upload the roms need the actual game before they can upload them right?

bobandbill August 4th, 2009 1:08 AM

Merged with this pre-existing thread. Also no talking about ROMs, please.

Anyways... I honestly doubt that the release date (or even a pre-order date) would turn out to be New Years Eve - that in itself raises question marks. Seems a pretty odd date to arrive at, especially as it's not a good one for them. Then there's the lack of info from anywhere else on this, the fact it's a mere 3 months ofter Japan's release (it has never been that quick before and they have no reason to rush things so much either), the lack of an image or even an announcement for this game outside of Japan (which does tend to come out before any release date is mentioned)... etc.

That, and online shops/gaming stores are constantly wrong with their predictions for game release dates, including the Pokemon games - quite often they make stuff up until they get the actual info, unfortunately. *points to previous speculation for the release dates for Diamond/Pearl*
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Even in games that aren't remakes, the script is probably one of the easiest things to put in. When you compare it to gameplay, music, features, graphic tiles, and things like that, it really doesn't take long.
Yes, it's not THAT difficult but not every piece of dialogue will be the same, and there is more dialogue to deal with, potentially given there's two regions. Scripts aren't the only thing that need to be looked at either as well.
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Also they have been releasing English version 1 month earlier from the previous game. So it should be out in February.
There's no 'should'. There's a 'could', but it's far from a given. They're not purposely releasing them one month quicker each time (otherwise by that logic, eventually they'll release it at the same time as the Japanese version, and if you look into how the whole process works, it won't be close to that in the foreseeable future, let alone be that).

Alex31 August 4th, 2009 1:13 AM

There's an extract from a gaming magazine in France, and one in the UK, saying the release date is Christmas 2009.

bobandbill August 4th, 2009 1:19 AM

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There's an extract from a gaming magazine in France, and one in the UK, saying the release date is Christmas 2009.
Again, doesn't mean it's correct. Many times beforehand, such claims have been made of release dates for games, only to turn out to be false. It *could* be real, but I can't help but think it's just all too unlikely. (And again, Christmas is another generic-looking date there - and there's already conflict there - gaming magazine says Christmas, Amazon says New Years Eve).

Wings Don't Cry August 4th, 2009 1:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex31 (Post 4942706)
There's an extract from a gaming magazine in France, and one in the UK, saying the release date is Christmas 2009.


Those are really unreliable I remember one saying Kingdom Hearts 2 was going to come out in 2004 and I waited for a long long time before it actually came out.

.Wolfie-kun. August 4th, 2009 2:23 AM

If it IS true (Not holding my breath though) then HG/SS Christmas 2009 would be the best Christmas ever! XD

lolcats August 4th, 2009 4:53 AM

Well if your lucky you may get it on your birthday lol but that's awesome :3

Alex31 August 4th, 2009 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rikudaman (Post 4942717)
Those are really unreliable I remember one saying Kingdom Hearts 2 was going to come out in 2004 and I waited for a long long time before it actually came out.

They may be unreliable, but they NEED to have it confirmed, or have a high change of it, or a suggestion from the official company to allow it to go to press or be posted on an official site by an official company, otherwise they are in breach of some of the rules of press.

pokeplatinum62 August 4th, 2009 10:25 AM

check out my latest post it says its come in out the 12/31st and i have proof

dec 31st is probably when its comming according to amazon

K3fka August 4th, 2009 10:27 AM

This would be the first I've heard of it, but I doubt it. The Japanese release is September 12th, so we probably won't see HG/SS until early/mid-2010.

Tanooki August 4th, 2009 10:29 AM

The only set official release date so far is September 12, in Japan.

I looked at the page you are referring to, and Amazon has several unreleased games listed, such as Super Mario Galaxy 2. I think the point of that is so people can pre-order them early, if they prefer.

December 31st is, more than likely, not the actual release date. I have a feeling we won't see these two games until 2010.

MadaraUchiha. August 4th, 2009 10:56 AM

Someone made a thread like this yesterday. As I said its FAKE the price is wrong and its most likely going to come out February-April.

K3fka August 4th, 2009 11:18 AM

I never would have noticed a trend like that on my own. I hope that it holds true for HG/SS!

shining-Celebi August 4th, 2009 11:20 AM

Christmas 09 would be a miracle.
Spring 10 would be expected.

bluecat August 4th, 2009 3:42 PM

I would be flabbergasted if they came out in December. But I think next Spring is more likely.

Can't know for sure though. If the earlier date holds true, I would think we would be hearing something official really soon. So here's to hoping! :D

Johto Legend 17 August 4th, 2009 3:44 PM

I did check Amazon today and it did say Dec, 31, 2009. However it still hasnt really been confirmed by Nintendo yet so its not quite known yet whether or not its really coming out then. Its still probable that the games will come out in the early parts of 2010. However there still is a hopeful chance that New Years Eve is the actual date and if thats the case...then i'll be really glad then! :D Lets hope New Years 09 is true!

Ian758 August 4th, 2009 3:45 PM

I seen that on amazon they have the english release date as December 21, 2009. They did say they wanted a qucik release

bluecat August 4th, 2009 3:47 PM

I'd also like to point out that Amazon has had wrong release dates listed at first before (I've experienced this with some CDs and books before). They simply want to have the item up in their system so people will start pre-ordering. Or sign up for product info updates with certain items. They usually correct it later when they have more information. So I wouldn't take Amazon's word to heart just yet.

But it sure would be awesome if it turned out to be true...I hope it is. :)

teababe27 August 4th, 2009 4:02 PM

Whatever date it is, it can't come fast enough.

PiplupGHacker August 4th, 2009 4:19 PM

I kinda doubt february... thats just the common formula for the games, They always come out in late march/april. (Example: Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum) all games before that came out in September in north america, late march/ april in japan (get it yet?)

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Originally Posted by Ian758 (Post 4945233)
I seen that on amazon they have the english release date as December 21, 2009. They did say they wanted a qucik release


Uh... that'll never happen. Getting the game translated in a matter of 3 months? An impossibility, seeing how much data is in the game. I mean, All 493 pokemon are in it with new pokedex entries and kanto, and possibly even hoenn.

yoshikiller995 August 4th, 2009 4:44 PM

Yea there's a topic with this already.... I was thinking that we wont see this game in the US until around March

alho12 August 4th, 2009 5:31 PM

lets not get to ahead of are selfs i mean this could be luck or made not

Ineffable~ August 4th, 2009 8:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PiplupGHacker (Post 4945362)
I kinda doubt february... thats just the common formula for the games, They always come out in late march/april. (Example: Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum) all games before that came out in September in north america, late march/ april in japan (get it yet?)

Ohmigod. *starts to melt down* I WAS JUST MAKING AN OBSERVATION! When I finally thought we were done with people sneering "IT'S NOT DEFINITE!!! STOP TALKING ABOUT A FEBRUARY RELEASE DATE! IT'S GONNA BE MARCH!", here we go again. And let's quit with the sarcasm. By the way, you've got it backwards. September in Japan, March/April in North America. Come back and give me crap after you've figured your facts out.

Wings Don't Cry August 4th, 2009 10:50 PM

I don't see how people can believe in Amazon's release date, the page doesn't even have any information and it doesn't even say HeartGold and SoulSilver.

I personally never trust any gaming magazines or any company who sells games(not make them) with their release dates. I mean how can anyone be 2 years off Kingdom Hearts 2 release date and still claim to have gotten information from the game creators.

MegaKuriboh August 5th, 2009 8:16 AM

lol my brothers birthday is in febuary
I dont care when it comes out as long as it comes out before march
COME OUT NOW EVERYONE WANT YOU!!

I really hope Amazon is right and if it comes out on dec 21 I would ask for soulsilver or both for christmas

I will get pissed if they lied

Alex31 August 5th, 2009 8:46 AM

Please, do you really think they've only been working on Platinum this whole time?

When they were making Platinum, they were also making HG/SS, and theres easily much more to the game than they're letting on, I wouldnt be surprised if they have it finished already.
There was an interview with Gamefreak somewhere about this very thing,they've been doing these games for much longer than everyone thinks, and they've further with it than everyone thinks, and they still have some surprises left.

This Pokemon Sunday update stuff is to drip-feed everyone, to make them watch Pokemon Sunday, and to make them more excited about the games. I bet Pokemon Sunday has all the information already, they're just doing what normal media do, and drip-feeding the audience.

bluecat August 5th, 2009 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex31 (Post 4947868)
Please, do you really think they've only been working on Platinum this whole time?

When they were making Platinum, they were also making HG/SS, and theres easily much more to the game than they're letting on, I wouldnt be surprised if they have it finished already.
There was an interview with Gamefreak somewhere about this very thing,they've been doing these games for much longer than everyone thinks, and they've further with it than everyone thinks, and they still have some surprises left.

This Pokemon Sunday update stuff is to drip-feed everyone, to make them watch Pokemon Sunday, and to make them more excited about the games. I bet Pokemon Sunday has all the information already, they're just doing what normal media do, and drip-feeding the audience.


Yeah, and I also know they begin work on English translations before the game is even done some times. Not sure if it applies to Pokemon, but I'm pretty sure I read they did that with Kingdom Hearts a few times. For all we know they could have been working side by side with the Japanese developers. *shrugs*

Would be smart though ya know? Why wait for the game to be complete when you already have material to translate while it's being made?

Mew~ August 5th, 2009 11:42 AM

Amazon is a real site but have any of you realised that it doesnt say what language so it might just be the jananese games and they may be putting it on their website 31st?

JLP_M August 5th, 2009 1:07 PM

hmm didn't notice the months of release were getting closer and closer, but i did notice how the games in japan come out in September all the time

HeartGold95 August 13th, 2009 11:20 PM

Shouldn't this thread be closed due to speculating something that is possible but not sure and could end up as rumors?

bobandbill August 13th, 2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DuskGold/DawnSilver (Post 4982924)
Shouldn't this thread be closed due to speculating something that is possible but not sure and could end up as rumors?

...No - in fact I kept it open so that people could speculate on this if they wanted, and so there is only one place for it (so it doesn't keep coming up in the Speculation thread itself, or come in the form of multiple new threads so much, which does happen as people want to discuss when it'll come out a fair bit).

Besides - close something because what is speculated is only possible and could be a rumor? A lot of discussion is speculation, particularly in the Speculation sticky thread (and by that then that should be closed, along with many other threads)... if something is a rumor than people can say 'hey, it's a rumor' - but not everything is, and the release data may be leaked further down the line, who knows.

HeartGold95 August 13th, 2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 4982970)
...No - in fact I kept it open so that people could speculate on this if they wanted, and so there is only one place for it (so it doesn't keep coming up in the Speculation thread itself, or come in the form of multiple new threads so much, which does happen as people want to discuss when it'll come out a fair bit).

Besides - close something because what is speculated is only possible and could be a rumor? A lot of discussion is speculation, particularly in the Speculation sticky thread (and by that then that should be closed, along with many other threads)... if something is a rumor than people can say 'hey, it's a rumor' - but not everything is, and the release data may be leaked further down the line, who knows.

Oh alright thanks i was just wondering if should or not but aparently not many have post this thread recently hope they post now but anyways thanks again!:)

Rich Boy Rob August 14th, 2009 12:14 AM

I was just thinking what the UK/EU release date might be, and assuming it comes out in America in early spring then you allow the usual few months for translations (it apparently takes MONTHS to add in a couple of u's) that means we won't get it until about June! I don't get why it takes so long for them to "translate" American English into British English.

Guy August 14th, 2009 6:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 4983048)
I was just thinking what the UK/EU release date might be, and assuming it comes out in America in early spring then you allow the usual few months for translations (it apparently takes MONTHS to add in a couple of u's) that means we won't get it until about June! I don't get why it takes so long for them to "translate" American English into British English.

Amazon can have false release dates for some of their items. It is one reason why I rather wait to hear it from official sources rather than getting false hopes. However, the American release date can be revealed sometime in December like it was for Platinum last year. Then, I would expect pre-orders for the American copy to come along not too long after. Like most, I say anywhere between late February to late April may be the most common time of release for HeartGold and SoulSilver in the US.

As for the EK and Australian version, my time frame for the release dat there would be anywhere between May and June, but like said, anything is possible. As for why it takes so long to distribute amongst other copies, people tend to forget that it isn't only translations that take up time. There are the little factors inbetween that you must take into consideration as well. For instance, copying, packaging, shipping, and distributing out to each store of each country all takes up time. Then there is preparation for the release and reruns to make sure the game is well off to be on the market first as well. So, it takes time yes, but not only because of translation.

bobandbill August 14th, 2009 5:33 PM

So, new info now - the release date for America is the vague 'Spring 2010' date - which was quite expected by myself, really. That means anytime in March-May. Same as the other games like Platinum and so forth, really.

No news on other countries yet, of course... so speculation may yet continue for that as well, I suppose.

Ineffable~ August 16th, 2009 7:01 AM

More specifically, it's that date for the United States and Europe, due to the recent merger within Pokémon Companies outside Japan. Says so on this page (official).

.little monster August 16th, 2009 9:06 AM

I am almost certain that HG/SS will be released around March 21st, for some reason a lot of the games have came out around there. I know this because my birthday is just a few days away from March 21st so I usually end up getting Pokemon games. : 3

linkinpark187 August 16th, 2009 11:25 AM

Yeah, I'd hate to rain on the parade of anyone who's thinking February, but it's not going to be then, as the first day of spring is the 20th of March. So, when they say Spring 2010, it could be anywhere between the 3/20/10-6/20/10 (as the first day of summer is the 21st). BUT if you look at the current trend, it's been the 3rd/4th week of the 3rd/4th month, so expect sometime late March to late April. :D

Guy August 16th, 2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 4994991)
Yeah, I'd hate to rain on the parade of anyone who's thinking February, but it's not going to be then, as the first day of spring is the 20th of March. So, when they say Spring 2010, it could be anywhere between the 3/20/10-6/20/10 (as the first day of summer is the 21st). BUT if you look at the current trend, it's been the 3rd/4th week of the 3rd/4th month, so expect sometime late March to late April. :D

^ This, many people still think of a February release when the beginning of Spring isn't until March till the end of it in June. My speculations is on a March or April release however, as it seems most probable to go with the Spring release idea. Also, just like you've noted interestingly enough, the games have recently been coming into pattern by being released on the 3rd/4th week if the 3rd/4th month. Now, Game Freak and Nintendo aren't obligated on sticking to a pattern, but the time of release seems assuring looking back at the last few games that recently came out around the same time in Spring [Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum].

Ineffable~ August 16th, 2009 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 4994991)
Yeah, I'd hate to rain on the parade of anyone who's thinking February, but it's not going to be then, as the first day of spring is the 20th of March. So, when they say Spring 2010, it could be anywhere between the 3/20/10-6/20/10 (as the first day of summer is the 21st). BUT if you look at the current trend, it's been the 3rd/4th week of the 3rd/4th month, so expect sometime late March to late April. :D

Really, people, stop discrediting me and implying I know nothing. I said that long before a Spring release date was confirmed. In fact, judging by the date of Bob's post it was very recent. So just quit it. This thread is no longer about my speculations.


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Originally Posted by Let's Get Lost Together. (Post 4995063)
Now, Game Freak and Nintendo aren't obligated on sticking to a pattern, but the time of release seems assuring looking back at the last few games that recently came out around the same time in Spring [Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum].

I find it funny how you're sticking to a pattern so quickly when you were one of the first ones to condemn my idea. :/

linkinpark187 August 16th, 2009 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilbittygoat (Post 4996813)
Really, people, stop discrediting me and implying I know nothing. I said that long before a Spring release date was confirmed. In fact, judging by the date of Bob's post it was very recent. So just quit it. This thread is no longer about my speculations.

I wasn't talking about you. I read through your thread, and saw that you came to the realization that there will be no Feb. release. It's everyone else that's still hoping for an early release. I apologize if that's the way it sounded, though.

Guy August 16th, 2009 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilbittygoat (Post 4996813)
I find it funny how you're sticking to a pattern so quickly when you were one of the first ones to condemn my idea. :/

No, not sticking to a pattern, but more so looking back at past releases. When one tries to format a rough prediction or thought you go back to past events or known information to softly conclude at a point.

I'm not sticking to the pattern, but more using it as a mild example to when the exact release may be. Earlier this year we couldn't have said it being released just based on past releases and a common pattern because the game's precence was still early in issue and most dates weren't known as yet. However, with official information such as a Spring release for the US and UK you can revert back to past dates as they too were not only Spring releases, but fell near the same dates. At least now most fans know the game's season release, but I myself cannot conclude on when exactly it may come out on the market.

Ineffable~ August 21st, 2009 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Let's Get Lost Together. (Post 4996901)
No, not sticking to a pattern, but more so looking back at past releases. When one tries to format a rough prediction or thought you go back to past events or known information to softly conclude at a point.

I'm not sticking to the pattern, but more using it as a mild example to when the exact release may be.

D8 That's just exactly what I was doing. Show me one place where I said I was relying on that pattern or implying anything was definite about it. ~.~#

Haza August 21st, 2009 10:59 PM

Not much to speculate on now. For the moment Im relying on Spring 2010. Im sure it will be early on in the Spring because all of the card releases being so soon.

Cynic Kaka August 22nd, 2009 9:26 AM

HG/SS Release Date.
 
4/1/2010.

Gamestop's site has it if you search Pokemon.

Jake♫ August 22nd, 2009 9:29 AM

Wow, good find there! I actually just went and looked it up to confirm that xD

Cynic Kaka August 22nd, 2009 9:31 AM

I'm not really interested in the games. I just wanted to see if Diamond had a low price like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon TWO did...14.99 my ass.

Steve Z August 22nd, 2009 9:36 AM

April 1st? I sense shenanigans!

Cello August 22nd, 2009 9:41 AM

That's a placeholder date, April representing spring. Hence it's release being spring of 2010. That's not official.

solaris knight August 22nd, 2009 9:48 AM

Its pretty much guaranteed to change over the coming months, when the real release date is revealed.

Guy August 22nd, 2009 9:49 AM

Like stated, that date isn't a confirmed date by Nintendo or Pokémon, so I wouldn't get your high hopes for HeartGold or SoulSilver being released on the first of April. That date might as well change over time once confirmation of the real release date is out. We have recently learned the game is going to be released on Spring of 2010, so for now I would stick with that. However, without confirmation we cannot conclude that the releae date will be on the first of April, but more so it being a place holder.

Trap-Eds August 22nd, 2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Corvus (Post 5022876)
4/1/2010.

Gamestop's site has it if you search Pokemon.

Say what? That's April Fool's Day! :cer_confused:

Ehh, I guess I'll just wait and see. I know it's coming out in 2010 anyway.

Frozen King Prawns August 22nd, 2009 11:31 AM

I'm gonna place my bets on...

US: 17th March '10
EU: 14th April '10.

Sakura Rain August 22nd, 2009 12:07 PM

Well, we all knew it was gonna be Spring '10 anyway. But April 1st? I dunno, that seems too good to be true. Then again, it might come out in March. Personally, I hope it is released in March. Though there's no way that'll happen

Magmarashi August 22nd, 2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokehlurver (Post 5023263)
I'm gonna place my bets on...

US: 17th March '10
EU: 14th April '10.

Didn't the US and EU merge? That would mean that they would come out the same day.

Johto's Best August 22nd, 2009 12:47 PM

I'd rather wait to have a perfect game than be impatient and end up with another Gears of War 2 incident. It's been almost a year, and the game still isn't fixed.

Gregora August 22nd, 2009 12:55 PM

I'm hoping late March/early April. Yeah, I'm an April kid.
When D/P came out, I pre-ordered Diamond as a b-day present for myself (even though it came out almost two weeks after my birthday)
When Platinum came out, I pre-ordered it as an early b-day present for myself.
I'm hoping this one will also be before my b-day so I can play it. ^^
This time, I think I'm gonna pre-order both so I can continue my pre-order figurine collection. XD

bobandbill August 22nd, 2009 4:05 PM

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Didn't the US and EU merge? That would mean that they would come out the same day.
I doubt the release dates would be the same. After all, they're still going to be released from different bases (Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe respectively), and with the latter, there's more to do as well - translating not only into english but many others as well, organising the releases for them in multiple countries, changing the whole PAL region stuff... plus the different laws that apply would also mean the games will have to differ furthermore (such as the instance where Europe's Platinum had to go without the Game Corner's minigame due to laws there).

Expect Europe to get it after America, is my prediction.

Serene Grace August 22nd, 2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 5024288)
I doubt the release dates would be the same. After all, they're still going to be released from different bases (Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe respectively), and with the latter, there's more to do as well - translating not only into english but many others as well, organising the releases for them in multiple countries, changing the whole PAL region stuff... plus the different laws that apply would also mean the games will have to differ furthermore (such as the instance where Europe's Platinum had to go without the Game Corner's minigame due to laws there).

Expect Europe to get it after America, is my prediction.

Really? My Platinum had the game corner in it and I bought Platinumhere in the UK. The only change for Europe that I've noticed is changing the money signs ($ to £) respectivley.

Ineffable~ August 23rd, 2009 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 5024288)
I doubt the release dates would be the same. After all, they're still going to be released from different bases (Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe respectively), and with the latter, there's more to do as well - translating not only into english but many others as well, organising the releases for them in multiple countries, changing the whole PAL region stuff... plus the different laws that apply would also mean the games will have to differ furthermore (such as the instance where Europe's Platinum had to go without the Game Corner's minigame due to laws there).

Expect Europe to get it after America, is my prediction.

In actuality, it is indeed being released at the same time in all the English-speaking countries of Europe and North America. It was announced on the official Pokémon website, as I said here:

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Originally Posted by Lilbittygoat (Post 4993904)
More specifically, it's that date for the United States and Europe, due to the recent merger within Pokémon Companies outside Japan. Says so on this page (official).



http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=3926&pictureid=31504

bobandbill August 23rd, 2009 4:42 PM

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Really? My Platinum had the game corner in it and I bought Platinumhere in the UK. The only change for Europe that I've noticed is changing the money signs ($ to £) respectivley.
Yep, I'm sure. There's a whole topic on it, in fact, here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=179900 (Apparently though this didn't apply to all of the UK versions - as people in that thread say, some have it, and some have the minigame gone with dialogue changed and all).

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Originally Posted by Lilbittygoat (Post 5028445)
In actuality, it is indeed being released at the same time in all the English-speaking countries of Europe and North America. It was announced on the official Pokémon website, as I said here:



http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=3926&pictureid=31504

Hmm... but doesn't that just mean that they are both available in Spring? Don't think that necessarily means they are on the same date - quite possibly it means that, for instance, America gets it in March, and Europe in May, which keeps it in Spring, and is akin to previous game releases where Europe tends to be a couple of months behind America in getting the game.

There's still the fact the European versions have more to go through to be made and released as well compared to America, and I doubt the American release would be delayed because of that; regardless if the two 'merged' or not.

rishi 20 September 15th, 2009 12:00 PM

Guess The Date For Europe Release!!
 
Ok i dont know about you guys but im crazy about the new soul silver and heart gold heading our way.

Just a poll to find out when you guys think it will release!

Seem like i have forgotton May!

If you think May please vote other!


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