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Ineffable~ June 15th, 2009 10:20 AM

Yeah, at first I thought it was a Battle Frontier, but then I didn't really see any buildings, so... yep, the mist is the Battle Frontier, or possibly a Safari Zone. If the mist is a Battle Frontier, the big Cianwood area is the Safari Zone. I think the latter is a much more likely option. I mean, the mist could be a Safari Zone, but then the tower west of Goldenrod would have to be the Battle Tower, and the big Cianwood area would have to be Pal Park... and that's not very fun or space-consuming...

Samme! June 15th, 2009 10:23 AM

The only thing is that I really don't believe that there will be a Pal Park because many people now have the DSi and since that there is no GBA cartridge thingy then many wouldn't be able to transfer there pokemon over from another game.

Ryanniny June 15th, 2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyledove (Post 4750348)
How come the girl has a marill following her? Surely it should be [Totodile]? I'll be really sad if the third starter doesn't get used again! poor lonely pokeball.

i dunno, i thought that.
but maybe the character you don't choose will have a different pokemon
if you choose chikorita, they get marill
if you choose cyndaquil, they get sunkern
if you choose totodile, they get slugma
they're just ideas, cos i think its too early to make an educated guess.
i suggested them 'mons cos they're all 2-stage families, which i based off the marill.

edit: i fail, the marill family has 3 stages.
so maybe it'll be hoppip or oddish, and magby? :S

Artemis June 15th, 2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4750464)
i dunno, i thought that.
but maybe the character you don't choose will have a different pokemon
if you choose chikorita, they get marill
if you choose cyndaquil, they get sunkern
if you choose totodile, they get slugma
they're just ideas, cos i think its too early to make an educated guess.
i suggested them 'mons cos they're all 2-stage families, which i based off the marill.

edit: i fail, the marill family has 3 stages.
so maybe it'll be hoppip or oddish, and magby? :S

Lol, the thing is Hoppip, Oddish, and Magby all have three stages in evolution too. Anyway, it is a little too early to assume if she may get the extra starter. I do admit though, it should be taken by her instead of it being left alone for someone else to steal. Although, the new female may have one of the starters, but the game makers probably chose not to show it as her following partner. They could either have done this to allow the player to know that any Pokémon besides their starter may follow them, or simply because they chose to add a difference. However, I suggest we leave that be until later on. It is interesting on how they chose to show Marill though, but we'll see how the game plays out with the new female being a supporting role.

Ineffable~ June 15th, 2009 10:49 AM

Well, the Marill family has three stages, but one of them is Azurill, so really there's no difference because either way it will evolve once. Anyway, yeah, like f l a s h said. The Marill is probably just another Pokémon she caught.

Kyledove June 15th, 2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilbittygoat (Post 4750499)
Well, the Marill family has three stages, but one of them is Azurill, so really there's no difference because either way it will evolve once. Anyway, yeah, like f l a s h said. The Marill is probably just another Pokémon she caught.

Then she'd have two water pokemon on her team? Something the rivals/helpers never do (if I remember right)
Also if she started with Marill then she really should start with Azurill?

I guess it really is too early to say though, I just thought it was odd.

XxDawnfanxX June 15th, 2009 11:00 AM

I feel pretty stupid here, but is there anyway to change it into English? lol

Ineffable~ June 15th, 2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyledove (Post 4750538)
Then she'd have two water pokemon on her team? Something the rivals/helpers never do (if I remember right)
Also if she started with Marill then she really should start with Azurill?

I guess it really is too early to say though, I just thought it was odd.

Oh, good point. I was too lazy to look back at the picture and I remembered seeing Gold having Cyndaquil. Now, if Soul had had Chikorita, the Marill would make much more sense. ...So, maybe you're (probably) right about the starter thing.

Jorah June 15th, 2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XxDawnfanxX (Post 4750542)
I feel pretty stupid here, but is there anyway to change it into English? lol

Do you mean the website? I don't think there is since it's mostly Flash rather than text, so you won't be able to translate it with a site. But when you roll your mouse over a link, the link comes up in English so you'll be able to see what the page is about.

GymLeaderLance99 June 15th, 2009 11:10 AM

Well, since I've had my browser on this thread for a few hours just to look at the pics, I'm sure people have addressed most of what I wanted to. So, I'll just say this...

AMAZING ECRUTEAK IS AMAZING! SO IS JUST ABOUT EVERY NEW PICTURE WE'VE GOTTEN! XD

That Johto map looks awesome, and as I'm sure has been said, Kanto is pretty much confirmed with the bit of Route 22 we saw. The Magnet Train going through the mountains adds more realism (I wonder if a ride on the Train will become like a ride on the ships, with trainers aching to battle...), and that clouded area just has to be either the Battle Tower or a full-on Battle Frontier (if it's anything else, well...depends). The new area past Cianwood is interesting, and I wonder what it might be. Other than that, the Rival's sprite is so much like the original and for that, I give it nostalgia points. I'm sure later on in the game, his sprite will resemble his new artwork.

Man, I really can't wait for these. XD

Artemis June 15th, 2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyledove (Post 4750538)
Then she'd have two water pokemon on her team? Something the rivals/helpers never do (if I remember right)
Also if she started with Marill then she really should start with Azurill?

I guess it really is too early to say though, I just thought it was odd.

They wouldn't start her with Azurill because that belongs in the Hoenn PokéDex. Seeing as we'll be gaining a National PokéDex afterwards it wouldn't fit for her to have a Hoenn Pokémon this early. However, you do make a good point on the starter sequence, but we can always expect a change later on perhaps [doubt it, but maybe].


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Originally Posted by XxDawnfanxX (Post 4750542)
I feel pretty stupid here, but is there anyway to change it into English? lol

It's alright ^_^. We haven't had any translations as yet, but I think it is being worked on. However, earlier in the pages we did get a translation from pokmon xd, but it wasn't too clear. So, I'd just give it time and it'll come around sometime [with official or real translation that is].

Niprop June 15th, 2009 11:17 AM

This. Is. Going. To be. AWESOME!

My hopes of having Porygon following me around at some point are sky-high! And the new sprites look just... Stunning! This is going to be more then just epic... It's going to be Uber Epic.

Melodyfree June 15th, 2009 11:50 AM

Oh...oh...oh god. I started spazzing like mad when I saw flowery pink Cherrygrove (not my style, but so fitting) and that gorgeous art of Ecruteak. ♥♥♥
I love how the gyms have a color scheme now, rather than being the same bland buildings over and over again.

It's really these insignificant little add-ons that make this game so worthwhile.

Samme! June 15th, 2009 3:30 PM

^^ You just hit the nail on the head Melodyfree! ^^ Those things really do make it more worthwhile to play.

sirboulevard June 15th, 2009 3:36 PM

I wanna point something out on the Ecruteak picture. Look down onto Route 36. you can clearly see the Apricorn Trees as trees, not bushes like berries are now. So I think its plausible at this time to assume that Apricorns may be coming back in the fashion they did in GSC.

Kyledove June 15th, 2009 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by f l a s h (Post 4750604)
They wouldn't start her with Azurill because that belongs in the Hoenn PokéDex. Seeing as we'll be gaining a National PokéDex afterwards it wouldn't fit for her to have a Hoenn Pokémon this early. However, you do make a good point on the starter sequence, but we can always expect a change later on perhaps [doubt it, but maybe].

I was thinking, its probably not but...what if the player is soul? this would explain gold having chikorita...this is highly improbable since I doubt you can get a marill so early...but when you look at the image, it looks like soul has moved to speak to gold (since he's turned to face but not chikorita) and marill is facing and hasnt yet reached the centre of his shadow...If gold was the one moving his chikorita should face the same way...then again, the screen seems centered on gold.

I'm probably thinking about it too much and is best to wait for further news xDDD

Samme! June 15th, 2009 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirboulevard (Post 4750987)
I wanna point something out on the Ecruteak picture. Look down onto Route 36. you can clearly see the Apricorn Trees as trees, not bushes like berries are now. So I think its plausible at this time to assume that Apricorns may be coming back in the fashion they did in GSC.

I think that you are right but it's just a little to hard to tell. But I really do hope that they do include the Apricorn Trees.

gummybarz June 15th, 2009 3:44 PM


I translated the whole entire page... Once again this is what every page says...


On the map page it says:
Kimi WAKABATAUN live in a small town in rural JOUTO, the Pokemon from Pokemon expert Dr. deutzia a neighbor to get dogs off on an adventure. Various people, I have been waiting for Kimi and the Electric Horseman of Pokemon!

3 Cantho was active in the region years ago, with the organization doing evil Pokemon "The Rocket" was back in action again. They are企N what? Kimi had to get involved in an incident during the trip, I could dismiss the team rocket! ?

Adventure destination and we will await the POKEMONTORENA POKEMONJIMU challenge the powerful. To challenge the gym leaders POKEMONRIGU recognized sign of victory "badge" Collect all! Now, POKEMONTORENA to the ultimate adventure of a regional departure JOUTO!


I'll add the rest of the tranlate for you to...



On the first page with lugia and hoho it says:



The wild Pokemon appear, depending on the software in the same place, at the climax to his story, The Heart's HOUOU Gold, Silver, Seoul, the RUGIA, two dogs appeared legendary Pokemon! !

Another difference I have to find the legendary Pokemon Hall of Fame!



On the second page with gold and new girl it says:

JOUTO characters to travel to the region as Kimi's alter ego player. You can choose a boy and a girl!
選BANAKATTA more characters, the story appeared in supporting roles to the hero.



On second page with team rocket it says:


The rocket is a crime organization to use a different Pokemon!
The three that were thought to have dissolved years ago, work began again at the local JOUTO. Or are they in thee what! ?



On the third page with the starters it says:
The first partner

Partners will receive the first at the Institute of WAKABATAUN Pokemon adventure begins.
CHIKORITA, HINOARASHI, WANINOKO you can choose from three dogs!



On the thrid page with lugia and hoho it says:

Usually in this play could not get the legendary Pokemon RUGIA HOUOU the Silver and Gold Heart's in Seoul, FINALLY!
Moreover, after the Hall of Fame, they can also meet the other legendary Pokemon!
Kimi I can catch and RUGIA HOUOU! ?



On the third page with groundon, rayquaza and kyourge it says:

Hall of Fame after the meeting

After Hall of Fame will also be the coming of the legendary Pokemon!
Heart of Gold and Silver, Seoul, appear different in each of the legendary Pokemon, catch it, you'll also appear on the legendary Pokemon to bring in other software! !



On the 4th page with pics it says:

Below the screen allows intuitive operation than to call the menu button.
"Picture book" and "Pokemon" and "bag" items, such as easy to touch the screen! In addition, the box, dramatically increase the usability of the method adopted by the touch screen. The movement of Pokemon, the only touch operation, you can almost look like! !



On the 4th page with the poke gear it says:

Stylish red for boys, for girls are feeling pretty pink NOZU.



Hope this helps~

Gummy June 15th, 2009 3:45 PM

Now that I see the female sprite in better quality, she does look pretty adorable, and having a Chikorita at her side would be the icing on the cake (considers playing as her on first run). As for the other pictures, they really give me more confidence that this will be the best Pokemon game to date.

GymLeaderLance99 June 15th, 2009 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pokemon xd (Post 4751008)
I translated the whole entire page... Once again this is what every page says...
(LARGE TEXT!!)

Except, Babelfish translations don't really qualify as a good translation. But on the bright side, all that can be made into something that makes sense, which is what I'll do now. I'll edit this post with the fixed stuff.

yaminokame June 15th, 2009 3:55 PM

Here is what I did for the story of Johto, sorry I forgot to post it here XD

HGSS Official Website - Story

My signature will take you to an index of the rest of the translations, not much from the new website though since it's all basically old information + old and new pictures ^^ :)

JP June 15th, 2009 4:10 PM

beautiful artwork for the background. damnit, i can't wait to play this game!

GymLeaderLance99 June 15th, 2009 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yaminokame (Post 4751042)
Here is what I did for the story of Johto, sorry I forgot to post it here XD

HGSS Official Website - Story

My signature will take you to an index of the rest of the translations, not much from the new website though since it's all basically old information + old and new pictures ^^ :)

Ah...well, guess I got beaten to it? XD

Still, if you don't mind, let me just slightly reword the first two paragraphs:

Living in the small town of New Bark in the Johto region, you obtain a Pokemon from the neighborhood Pokemon expert Prof. Elm, and you set off on an adventure. Meetings with various different people and Pokemon await you!

Active in the Kanto region three years ago, Team Rocket, an organization committing evil with Pokemon, is back in action again. What could they be planning? Getting caught in the mess during your travels, can you drive Team Rocket away?!

Regardless, thanks for the translations. :D

Samme! June 15th, 2009 6:50 PM

hmm... I just realized that in the picture with hoot hoot following you it doesn't seem if it's flying...

Artemis June 15th, 2009 6:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samme426 (Post 4751210)
hmm... I just realized that in the picture with hoot hoot following you it doesn't seem if it's flying...

Hoothoot is barely ever portrayed as flying unlike the rest of the flying types. I don't know why, unless it is because it is rounded and seems un-air like, but I've never really seen one in the game nor in the anime fly. This is probably the reason why they chose to use its OW sprite as walking, however I'm not 100% sure. If we see other flying types, like Pidgy's line of evolution in the air while walking, then maybe my theory would be safe to assume, but for now it is a bit distorted in thought.

Seeing as the graphics aren't exactly the same as other games such as Pokémon Ranger, and how flying types are shown there, then it maybe different for the main metagame. They may choose to have the airborne Pokémon on the ground because of simplicity, but we'll have to wait until more scans are shown with more of a variety and OW sprites for the Pokémon.


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