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Shinto Ruins Discussion
It seems a new area is unlocked when you have Arceus on top of your team and go to the Ruins of Alph, so what do you think this area contains other than the area to get one of the three dragons? And were do you think it lies on the map (thanks for Todoroki Is for pointing this out), and maybe some pokemon are catchable in this area which were not catchable in johto before o.0, so what do you think can be out there?
http://i40.tinypic.com/160bqd5.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2viiart.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/24lqxds.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/2qmdwfc.jpg Some Facts: Why the name of the Shinto Ruins has not been derived from Shintoism (Thanks to Hiroshi Sotomura): Quote:
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Eevee-to-Glaceon anyone? XD
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Ya Why not might feature a moss or ice rock or a place like mount coronet were u can evolve nosepass and magneton. Damn September seems like a year away I m so inpatient xD
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It is not in the ruins at all. Arceus is taken to the ruins to unlock this area. It is best assumed to be at the mount silver peak and for me its most likely with all that snow and how its a bit chopped off in the map.
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Thanks for pointing that out Todoroki Is, i thaught it was in the ruins since you take arceus there to unlock it and its got unowns as well, it doesnt eally make a big difference, i will edit the first post adding the question, where do you think it might be? , i ll meansion that you pointed that out, thanks alot :)
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Sadly I'll only be able to do that if I find some way to hack T_T I've never been able to do any of those nintendo events T_T
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i as just thinking that it might be somewhere of the johto or kanto areas, maybe you access it by boat or somethin, because the only place in kanto and johto with snow is mount silver and that already has a nough going on in it (battling red, the strong pokemon) so maybei its on a new island?
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Arceus being in your party to unlock this area, we can bet that there will be some legend or story behind this secret. However, I don't think I could even begin to guess what it is.
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There is for sure some story in history or somethin of that sort and it seems to be told either by the guy at the Ruin of Alph or by Cynthia before you chose with dragon you want, but the story is unkown at the moment, but i m sure it will be similar to the 12th movie story otherwise the event has no point of being through an event only pokemon movie 12 arceus.
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It's going to be kinda hard rasing a level 1 legend though...
I wonder if you pick giratinia, would he be in land forme or orgin form. |
Dmartin if you did not know if you brought the movie 11 regigigas into platinum got the 3 regis and then got the platinum regigigas it would appear level 1 so its not that hard and its something they wanna do. A lot.
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Ya the idea of training a level 1 legend does seem hard :P, and giratina will most probably come in other form, and you need to trade the platinum orb from pokemon platinum, or there might be a way to obtain it in the game, along with the other two orbs that go with dialga and giratina?
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i think i got my regis over to platinum and i think i got a level 70 or 50 regigigas, or was it diamond? the important thing is this concept of level 1 legendaries is defenitely a new idea specially that it is included in an event, and i agree with u Hiroshi it seems we ll be seein alot more of these level 1 legendaries ...
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It might only have Unowns in the other ruins in the new area. There may be a few ice type pokemon here too, but it's more likely that this place will be small and empty. Quote:
Even the Ice Rock isn't likely to be here, since there is a possibility that this place will be empty and small. I'm not sure about the Mt.Coronet-like magnetic field being here. Quote:
The ruins, if you see carefully on the map, is on a higher altitude. Then maybe, a little far from the ruins, there is a place with a very high altitude, that is a small mountain... Quote:
I'm guessing it will actually be in its Origin Forme, which it logically is supposed to be in at the beginning, and that it will hold the Griseous Orb from the beginning. This gets me to think that they might introduce new Origin Formes for Dialga and Palkia too, maybe! - |
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Maybe you skipped this line I posted earlier: The ruins, if you see carefully on the map, is on a higher altitude. Then maybe, a little far from the ruins, there is a place with a very high altitude, that is a small mountain... |
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The ruins are somewhere in the middle. In no way does it seem like there will be snow anywhere. Especially Mount Motar. No way will snow be there. |
By hasn't anyone considered the fact that the Shinto ruins might be located somewhere outside the johto and kanto regions, maybe the guy from the ruins of alph gives u a ticket of some sort to go by ship to this area , but if it were in johto, it must be in mount silver since it's the only area were there is snow. If there is a patch with snow in kanto due to some changes in the kanto map then it will be another thing entirely...
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I honestly don't care about this new area. So far, all they've told us is that you need an Arceus for it, and it'll give you a level 1 dragon. It's not like I'll be able to unlock it anyway.
If this turns out to just be a small, unimportant part of a new area that you can explore normally, great! Otherwise it's just annoying. I loathe in-game things that require specific event Pokémon to unlock. |
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Besides, didn't you read what I said about the small new mountain? Quote:
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Besides, like I said, there are supposed to be many new areas. Quote:
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http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/thumb/6/64/JohtoMap.png/800px-JohtoMap.png Mount Silver always had snow. We just never saw. I think finally we will. It makes the most sense now then anywhere near the ruins. |
Really there's nothing that states this area should be close to the ruins , besides the new johto map doesn't show the existance any mountain or even the smallest spot of snow next to the ruins and trust me snow isn't suddenly gonna appear in the middle of johto betwen towns that aren't in a snowy area.
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Uh, yeah it does. xD Mt. Silver has indeed had snow for evar.
Who wants to know the translated name for the area? Surely they won't leave it as Shinto Ruins... |
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Currently its known as shinto ruins, i you know the translated US name, please do meansion it, and Hiroshi, i think a drastic change has been done to the johto map specially in that location , and anyway it is still not fully clear, i remembered an area with snow in johto which is the icy path, and in kanto which is the cave where articuno is found (cant remember the name), maybe they can also be possible locations?
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But yeah, now it will have the well-deserved snow. Quote:
Therefore, the chance of it being near the ruins has all gone down, too bad... Quote:
Even if the place was only accessible with this Arceus event, cheating would get you there anyways. |
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Hey why are you considering this to be a fully locked area, like blueblur155 meansioned, it might be one of those areas with events u can enter without the event being activated, like Regigigas temple, were u would only see a still figure of regigigas, so i high think this area will be accessable, but this room will be locked if you dont have arceus.
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ya why not but i dont think a bunch of scientists will be sitting on top of mount silver just waiting for some1 to arrive with arceus, i think u will need to make it follow u, then when u et in front of the door, it will get close and the door will open or something on those lines :P, anyway, i started seeing that mount coronet and silver are very similar, they both have snow, they both contain important parts of the game, so most likely more similarities will be revealed soon. I guess the magnetic field in coronet is also going to be present in mt silver and it will have multiple levels like mount coronet did, ya now that ll be awsome xD
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Basically it is shown that you bring Arceus to the Ruins, to activate the event. The sighting of snow matching the snowed in area of Mt. Silver on the map kind of relates to the two. I personally believe that Mt. Silver itself will become more expanded after the event is activated within the game. It wouldn't be a hard task to complete and it would also give Johto the needed expansion afterwards. At the foot of Mt. Silver, it does give off the different match-ups from the originals. So, it would probably be best to assume that some rerouting and relocation has been accomplished within the game. This could also mean that Kanto itself [if included] would be altered in routes as well and probably be another expanded area from what it was like in the originals. Honestly though, it is another event for the game, exciting for the most, and it'll definitely give players a chance to train their favorite Sinnoh Dragon legendary.
The location to activate it, as stated seems very likely to be at the top of Mt. Silver, which makes sense as it connects to the idea that Arceus was first situated at the top of Mt. Coronet. Over all, pretty nicely done, and Arceus's large sprite fitting neatly in one tile assures me that the other 493 Pokémon's OW sprite will be perfectly fine within the game. |
Kanto is going to be included from what i see, or the magnet train will be useless and the path to the right of the map will lead nowhere. I am sure many new features are also going to be included in kanto, and yes i definitely agree that mount coronet and silver are of atmost similarity, they event look similar externally if you look at the sinnoh map, so there has to be some more common features like the magnetic field ...
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Personally I always hated when Nintendo made places unaccessible unless you had a special event Pokemon/item. It makes it unfair to the large population of people who don't have these events. This looks like such a cool place, and its going to bother me that I can't get to it cause no way I'll ever have the movie Arceus.
On a side note, I don't think this is such a great move they did. Cynthia should stay in the game she belongs to, same with Giratina, Palkia and Dialga. |
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When it seems nintendo has been doin these events since platinum and they concern obtaining legendaries without having to obtain them from the original game, this was done with moltress, zapdos, articuno, and the regi trio in platinum , and now it has been done with groudon, kyogre, ryquaza, jirachi, and the three dragon deities of sinnoh, seems for some reason nintendo is moving away from depending on other games to obtain the legendaries, it might be that the new dsi isnt compatible with any previous device i guess since they're doing this, that would be just evil :P
Edit: powerruletheearth, Todoroki Is means they arent located within the Ruin of Alph and not that they arent the ruins themselves, its clear if you read the posts before it. |
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till now the only possibility is mount Silver because:
1. It is the only area with snow on the map and it is clear through screenshot that the Shinto Ruins have snow. 2. The importance of mount Silver and its similarity to mount Coronet definitely makes it suitable for placing this event at the top of mount silver like the arceus u can catch in DPPt was on top of mnt Coronet. |
Maybe you unlock a new pokemon, kinda like Deoxys in Firered/Leafgreen.
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I think it's Mt. Silver. There's no other area covered in snow on the map. In addition, D/P/Pt's Arceus event was on top of Mt. Coronet, so it would make sense for this event to take place on top of Mt. Silver. If it is, then I really hope Red appears, if even for just a second. I can see it now:
-Egg hatches, Unown disappear -Screen zooms down to the entrance of the ruins -Red's there -Red says "..." and then leaves |
On the map there is a cloud over a tiny bit over the mountain and Im assuning this is the location for it.
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shinto ruins
that name is alot like Johto and Shinoh |
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Mt. Silver is the basic mountain that is seen with a visible ice cap. Not to mention, the image was shown with layers of snow around the area of the Shinto Ruins. So, this location only seems logical after activating the event from the Ruins of Alph. Like stated here as well and I've said before too, placing Arceu's event for the birth of one of the dragon's relates to the original idea of how Arceus would be found at the highest point on Mt. Coronet in Sinnoh. However, if it is placed in Mt. Coronet, and we do happen to see Red, then I wouldn't assume he might appear, say "..." and then leave. I would honestly like to have at least one battle with him. Though, if this were to happen, then I can see it he doing that, and at a certain time in the game he appears once more. This is when he challenges us, and finally speaks [This is just an idea and speculation on what was said]. |
u make a very strong point there Hiroshi, it looks like we re gonna see much more of mount silver this time, especially that we saw very little of it before, and it seems were going to be able to explore it from top to bottom
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I really think that this event will take place at Mt.Silver after I read the (rather) genuine reasons given in the posts. That Red idea also sounds cool but I think that Red should definitely challenge us(if not ON the spot at the birth of dragons, then at some other place in Mt.Silver).
(I voted without thinking and thus I voted for arceus event not taking place at Mt.Silver.So silly of me to vote before thinking lol) |
red is most likely to be in mount silver like he was in the previous games, but i say they will keep him in the sam spot, and i dont thnik he will be involved in the areceus event, since this event isnt available for all the fans, and it would cause a fan disapointment if u had to activate this event to be able to battle red.
Edit: I thaught i d give a pic of both mount coronet and silver to show how similar they look exterior wise, so here it is: http://i42.tinypic.com/2rfq5jl.jpg mount coronet is the one on the left and mt.silver on the right, they both seem to hold something on the top, and does someone see something on mnt silver covered by a cloud, what could that thing be? |
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Well, it could be something like the part we visited before was a different section of Mount Silver, maybe? And now, another new section will be available to be discovered. Quote:
The name "Shinto" is not a mix of "Shinou" and "Johto" or "Kantou", though that's a clever one you came up with, I must say... The name is actually directly derived from one of the most followed Religion in Japan. The word "Shinto" is translated to be "Way of the Gods". So, the chances are that they will not change it while they translate it. But if religion issues come up, then they might be forced to, but I don't want it to be changed... |
I'm more interested in this getting one of the dragons and maybe you can actually get all 3 and you can find the orbs around Johto and Kanto and when you take them there you get the respectful dragon matching the orb like in Platinum when you go back to Spear Pillar for Dialga and Palkia
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oh and Hiroshi, i remember the indigo plateau being behind mount silver from the east and not on it directly and was located in kanto so it isnt on the johto map, unless nintendo has remaped its possition wich is most likely because i can see the indigo plateau on the new johto map like the old one... http://i44.tinypic.com/whi6c8.jpg |
I think it's possible. Red was found somewhere left of the mountain, the pokemon league near mt. Silver, and what's on the top is where the shinto ruins would be.
"I'm basically saying, if we believe that Mt. Silver is now part of the Indigo Plateau, that the Mt. Silver we explored in G/S/C can't be the ACTUAL Mt. Silver - meaning we've never gone through the ACTUAL Mt. Silver." - Hiroshi http://img30.imageshack.us/i/theory2.jpg/ http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2876/theory2.jpg http://img30.imageshack.us/i/theory2.jpg/ |
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Hiroshi man thanx for pointing that out, i just watched the video of the shinto ruins and the music at the ruins seems similar to those at mount coronet, even the pillars infront of the entrance of the birth room seem similar to those on top of mount coronet, so i may conclude this has a similar mood to mount coronet, which basicly has a very similar event going on at its peak as well, even if other patches of snow in kanto or johto appear, it still would make the most sense that it is located on top of mount Silver.
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I definitely think the Shinto Ruins will be on top of Mt. Silver. The only evidence against that would be the cloud over the area at the base of Mt. Silver. I could see them covering up a special location..but if the Indigo Plateau is at the base of the mountain, I don't see any reason to cover that up. I keep forgetting...isn't the Johto Pokemon League (Silver Conference in the anime) held at the base of Mt. Silver? So that wouldn't be the Indigo Plateau covered by clouds..I'm confused. |
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Edit: Nevermind. just checked out the other topic. Now, to contribute a bit... The "Johto League" Is in fact, Indigo Plateau. Johto is unique in that (aside from just being awesome) it doesn't have it's own e4. The Silver Conference is an Anime-only thing. And, regardless of the reason for naming it "Shinto Ruins", the word is still shinto, so they'll likely change it. The only decent substitute I see right now is actually naming it "Way of the Gods", or Origin Hall, etc., because the Game Freaks seem to like things with origin in them nowadays. |
This game is going to be GREAT! I love all the new additions and this one looks to be my favorite as of yet :)
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P.S. I think it's on the top on mt. Silver :X |
I think saying it must be on Mt Silver just because there is no is probably pushing it, I would like to see changing weather in HGSS so perhaps a previously unsnowy area may get a layer ;).
I agree its likely to be a new location (outside of the usual map) like in Fire Red with the islands for some legendarys? I don't want another place that I can see but not touch XD no events for me :(. |
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Shinto Ruins is the name given to it for now and that is why a major percentage of the fans are calling it so. However, if the name is altered in anyway, then we'd just have to wait to find out what that may be as it seems like a solid case at the moment. Though, when it is released in the English version, I wouldn't expect the name to stay as Shinto Ruins neither would I expect it to be changed to continue as "Way of the Gods," because that alone will cause controversy for the franchise. Now, I realized Hiroshi commented on the religion Catholic beings the major religion, it isn't. Christianity would fall under that place, and it is this basic group that might take offence us the use of such a thing, especially if it distributed to a younger age group. So, the name may be altered to something else for the English Version, however the Japanese release may keep the Shinto Ruins the same as we speak of it now, because it hasn't caused any problems thus for for the country. However, we'll see how things play out.
As far as the Pokémon League, it was situated at a location here, but with the new ruins because the Arceus event, I might expect something to be altered. I wouldn't say it is impossible, because it can very well happen for the game. If GameFreak sees a fitting position for the new area and makes it piece together well, then they might go for it. Nothing would major in the change besides a different area to travel to for the league. However, if the Shinto Ruins are located at the pin point top of Mt. Silver, then they can simply enlargen the area and keep the League not to far from its original spot or keep it the same as was before. It really depends on the situation how things play out really, and not to mention an addition to the map [if kanto is kept] is still needed to conclude the rest of most theories given. |
Nintendo defenitely knew what they were down when they covered up certain pieces of the map with clouds. This is the only thing that make what is on mount silver unclear . It is either the league or could be something entirely different. Shinto is simply a temporary name in my opponion , the same happened with many DDPt names before these games were released and the name will by all means change once these games hit America.
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You have to keep in mind that although all routes are shown on the maps, they don't add mountain routes. If you look at the sinnoh map with mount coronet, it never shows any routes on top of it, whilst in reality it had a whole bunch.
The same can be said for mount silver, just cos theres no routes drawn in the map (or things covered up with clouds) doesn't mean theres not more there...Mount silver is a pretty big place so you can be sure there's more to it than what's hidden (or not) under the clouds... |
there are several routes that dont appear on the map in addition to the ones not only on mount silver, but that might be on other obstacles as weel, and not to meansion the indoor routes and the way they may be expanded, we dont really know wat to expect as the clouds also cover up important spots on the map, and how about the yellow meadow behind the tin tower, i dont think that was just put there for no reason, so i expect huge route additions, and much more paths inside and outside mount silver, mnt silver is going to be like coronet from the inside and outside i guess , full of routes were u need rock climb and strength and other HMs to make your way to the top...
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Sinntoh Ruins would be an appropriate North Amercian name.
Since it's in the Johto region, and Arceus, Giratina, Dialga, and Palkia all originated from Sinnoh. |
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However, the area on the map that is shuddered in orange air. That is only a reflection to represent the trees by Ecruteak City. It isn't nothing more than that as many have speculated and said before. The town is known for its orange look because of the trees that gives off the color, so adding this into the map's art only makes sense to do so. |
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Simmer down, mkay? |
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Though I'm not sure if this event is very befitting for Hg/Ss.... Maybe once we know more about it aka actual translations, it will make more sense to me. Again I know the unown and all but there were unown in solaceon too right?
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maybe theres a snow storm in johto when u visit the place,do any of yall think bout weather anomalies? or pracipitation? (yay i used a big word XD lol)
who knows,but its DEFINITELY NOT in mount silver,it may have snow but its not the ruins type cuz if it was theyd hav had it way back in g/s/c and the anime. then again i could be wrong,maybe itll be like the southern island,navel rock,and that one island whos name i forget that has mew lol id like that whole ticket thing again but instead of nintendo events,just in-game events or make nintendo events happen more than once |
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However, the location of the ruins can very well be placed ontop of Mt. Silver as it gives a good relation to the tip of Mt. Coronet as so many have speculated on. Not to mention, the ice cap and the area of snow gives this idea away pretty clearly, because on the map for now, it is basically the only area shown with much snow. And, just because the ruins weren't there in the original GSC it wouldn't mean they cannot make any alternations to the remakes, because they can. The extra memory and added storyline with these events make it fit in place. It'll also give the players extra area to travel in Mt. Silver than what was provided before. The new areas back this theory up as well, because just as they added in these and the Sevii Islands in FRLG they can extend the area of Mt. Silver once this event is activated within the game. By the way, the games [besides Yellow] never really follow the anime, so even if it wasn't provided there, it can still be brought to the games. Not to forget, in the anime they may make a return to Kanto and these changes can be applied afterwards as well, just as it was done in the Battle Frontier arc of Kanto. |
I really don't think a weather condition will change the tiles on any map in the game as mostly many weather conditions are limited to a certain area like in DPPt, the town which had the marsh ( I no I'm bad at remembering) u can see puddles on the ground due to the raining so if there's snow on the ruins , it ll definitely be snowing full time there , and for the Shintoism I edited the first post giving an explanation that Hiroshi Sotomura pointed out why the name of the ruins is not derived from Shintoism to avoid relating the name to religion.
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Second, yes, I saw that potential mistake, but I only said that the name "Shinto" was taken, not a reference to the religion itself. Quote:
Well, for my part what I meant is only the name was taken from the religion - to mean the words "Way of the Gods", not that it is emphasizing on the religion itself. |
I dont think a game can be used to synthesize on a religion because, first, that religious group will open a war with the producer of the game, second, i dont think any previous pokemon game had anything that related to religion, so why to do it now, besides, there are many names you can come up with that can be close to religious names u wat i think, i think that Shinto is like a combination name for Johto and Sinnoh like Hiroshi stated earlier because it makes perfect sense when you look at the similarities between the Shinto ruins which are situated in Johto, and the Sinnoh story background, we can also note the relations between mnt coronet and mnt Silver, so this name shouldnt cause any fan reaction concerning its relation to religion (because it ISNT), and i say it again, i edited the first post with the explanation given by Hiroshi Sotomura whay the name of the ruins is not related to Shitoism to avoid religion clashing here.
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Rumor has it...
I did hear a rumor that in Soul Silver you would be able to catch Groudon, and in Heart Gold you would be able to catch Kyogre. Maybe it's a way to get to them?
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no it most probably isnt since that doesnt concern an event, it seems they will be available at a certain point of the game, probably sometime after obtaining the national dex, so dont worry about that, u can get them with out obtaining the event arceus.
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Okay, I honestly think everyone is starting to think too hard on this situation. GameFreak wouldn't be able to withstand an outbreak from the fans concerning religious beliefs nor religious location. So, as much as it may mean something, it may not directly refer to it as such. So, some have speculated on the name and some have speculated on the meaning. However, as said, it is a little sad to see everyone narrow down such thoughts and go directly to the thought of religion rather than the name itself and not what it particularly means. If the ruins are situated upon the top of Mt. Silver, then that leads a connection to Sinnoh's Mt. Coronet giving the two locations a relation with Arceus. So, seeing as this is Johto and there is Sinnoh references, then simply put the two together and you reach the point of Shinto [Sinnoh and Johto placed together]. GameFreak didn't necessarily have to bring the name into to refer to the religion Shintoism, but just share the connection of the two regions. So, before making assumptions, refer to the different outcomes and facts to it before leading to only one thought and then place what you think. However, thinking straight to a religion wouldn't be the only meaning of it as there are other possibilities too [which I have stated here].
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-_- IMO, this is old news, and I'm surprised you're still talking about it. Surely, with information concerning a new area, involving Arceus of all things, we can find something to discuss that's not the pronunciation of the name. One comment, and I feel like I'm on the verge of a flame war. No one getting on my back for "you posted it in the 1st place", etc., please. I get it. Thank you. We're all rational people. though I still don't see the problem with calling it Shinto...
I know I'll sound a bit like I'm flipping out, But for those of you who read it that way, I'm not. Just a bit disappointed that one comment made his happen, and that one commenter was me. Please to be getting on with topic? |
well if the people here want to prove further why its not related to shintoism, then let them continue. Further proof will be positive and will stop this idea of relating the name to religion, and its ok that one comment led to all this, this isnt an argument, these are just different oppinions and then we finally came to a conclusion which i posted in the 1st post and i hope it makes everything clear, and to continue with the topic i was wondering how the 2 ruins in the game are connected (not concerning there position but their inclusions, the Shinto Ruins and the Ruins of Alph, there has to be a connection if you had to bring Arceus to Ruins of Alph before going to Shinto Ruins, all i can spot is that both contain unown as they swarm Arceus when you chose your dragon. so anyone got anythin?
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The connection between the Ruins of Alph and the Shinto Ruins is a good question. I would believe this is something such as comparing the Solaceon Ruins from Sinnoh to them as well. Like said, they both have the inclusion of Unowns, which have been noted to live in their own dimension such as Dialga, Palkia, Giratine, and Arceus themselves. So, with the relation to time and space, this could lead the strongest connection to the two ruins by itself. However, I'm sure the new ruins were added in just to give the players an extra journey to feat. I mean, activating the event by the Ruins of Alph can easily be similar to activating the three locations of the Regiis in RSE. It is basically a chained link that opens one door, but leads to the next. So, together the Ruins of Alph basically opens the door to the top of Mt. Silver, which shares the same connection to Arceus and the top of Mt. Coronet, and then it opens the Shinto Ruins for the players to enter. It is a good addition nevertheless and just gives more story to the entire line of it. Not to mention, including Cynthia and bringing birth to the dragon of your choice just adds to the originality of the beginning story with Arceus and the three legends back from DPPt.
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But anyway I swear on serebii it said that when you take Arceus to the Ruins of Alph you just get "taken" to the Shinto Ruins, so I'd doubt if there was anything other than that Temple there. Oh yeah and probably is high up Mt. Silver. |
I think, that the ruins will be on top of Mt. Silver, reason being that, on the map, there isn't a drop of white anywhere else. There could well be an Ice Rock there, but it will probably house the magnetic field to evolve Nosepass and Magneton. However I'd like to know a bit more about the ruins of Alf and Shinto, and what is Shintoism?
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This is a good event to be placed there, I think. |
You know I never realised and it was puzzling me till now that the league in the new pick looks like its part way up Mt. Silver unlike in the ld pick its to the side.
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We ll be seeing alot more on mount silver, not on the Shinto Ruins, i think many inner routes have been added, and it may look kinda like mount coronet from the inside, like u need many HMs like rock climb and strength ... to get the very top were u reach your target, it gonna be a hell of a journey in that mountain, and i most certainly think that it ll contain a magnetic field to evolve magneton and nosepass, but for the ice rock i m not sure...
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I remember reading somewhere it was in Ruins of Alph
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No the Ruins of Alph are different place, however they do apear to have something to do with it, because Gold can be seen with arceus near the Ruins.
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I will have to say that its most likely atop mount silver, but as far as any other stuff up there i highly doubt it, personally i think that it will be like the hall of origin in diamond pearl and platinum
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Well it has to be in a snowy place, which High up on Mt Silver could easily be.
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You don't need it at the top of the team. You just need it out as a partner Pokemon.
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this kind of thing might be used in future games.
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Maybe, there will be a deserted island that has the shinto ruins there
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Mt. Silver seems like a possibility. I wonder, though, if they'd place them before or after Red's location? (assuming he returns). There's still other places they could go though. If the Sevii Islands are brought back, they could easily go near the Tanoby Ruins, or they could go near the Ruins of Alph.
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Anaybody thinking around ice path or by mt.moon?
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So, Arceus creates life... awesome! For that Lv. 1 Legendary, I'm going to use Rare Candies and Cheat it to Lv. 100.
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