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Charaxes June 19th, 2009 6:21 AM

"Saving the World From Ruins!" Episode Discussion
 
Here is where you can discuss Team Galactic's Iron Island holocaust in "Saving the World From Ruins!"

My review to come forthwith.

(I don't plan to be on for tomorrow, so posting it mega-early, just to be sure. It's all on you, my helper elves.

See ya next week.)

Jorah June 20th, 2009 9:12 AM

Am I making the thread next week? I can't remember if you are or anyone or what

With this episode, I can't help but wonder what 4Kids would have done with the bombs blowing everyone up thing. I'm sure 4Kids never said just "bombs" in Pokemon. I was kind of surprised TPCI did, anyway

- Wow, Galectic Battle opening *does* sound like the dub opening of Tokyo Mew Mew. But this sounds better
- Lucario's going crazy ~
- Reiji!
- It's the professor person from Platinum
- I swear, when Riley said "Use Thunderbolt on Lucario" he was going to say "Use the force" XD No idea why
- Zoom in on Ash's shoe!
- Hahaha Barry just randomly saw Ash jump over the hole
- XDDDDDDDDDD Dawn fell on Barry
- When James said "We're all in this together" I automatically thought of that horrible High School Musical song
- Chimchar's hands XD Why didn't Brock say that *before* he used dig?
- Aww James crying :(
- Skarmory has an awful voice
- I like how Ash gets a swoosh noise when he moves his arm. Barry gets a swoosh noise, too!
- I really want Barry to meet Paul, he's so cool. Barry, I mean
- Empoleon has claws, I didn't know
- Nooooo, don't leave, Barry!

Music kept: (6)
At the start
When Mt Coronet shows up
When Purugly attacks
Going to blow up the island
Riley and Lucario come out of the smoke
Kanto music at the end

Vernikova June 20th, 2009 12:36 PM

You're supposed to make the thread Jorah.

• An aura shield is pretty cool. Though, Ash not wanting to hurt Lucario wasn't cool.

• The breaking of Monster Balls these days. They really should try to make those things stronger.

• I liked that Pikachu was able to use Thunder Bolt on Lucario. I was getting sick of Ash not making up his mind.

• I'm happy that Brock was able to go with Ash to stop Mars. He doesn't get to do much but it was more than what Dawn did.

• Mars is officially the second most awesome member in Team Galactic. She's after Akagi though since he's her boss.

• Riley and Lucario struggled to get the explosives out. All of a sudden though, they create a shield around the explosions and throw it in the air. It reminds me of what Raven did when she tried to stop Starfire from sneezing.

Gosh, next week's episode will be awesome.

BeachBoy June 20th, 2009 12:48 PM

Apparently, Mars is male, when she asks how much time they had to blow it up, the pilot says "sir, three minutes!" Anyone catch that? XD; I had to rewind on my TV because I was caught so off-guard by that.

Awesome way to stop the amount of explosions too, that aura shield was a great idea.

Spinor June 20th, 2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 4767358)
Apparently, Mars is male, when she asks how much time they had to blow it up, the pilot says "sir, three minutes!" Anyone catch that? XD; I had to rewind on my TV because I was caught so off-guard by that.

Acutally, when you are a VERY FEARED formal female, you are referred to as sir. It happens with J as well.

Anyways, good episode. I was kinda surprised to see the return of that Kanto ending music. I bet little kids went "Oh, new music :D"... No, it's very old music...

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Originally Posted by Jorah (Post 4766602)
- When James said "We're all in this together" I automatically thought of that horrible High School Musical song

Exact same horrible thought here.

BeachBoy June 20th, 2009 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4767384)
Acutally, when you are a VERY FEARED formal female, you are referred to as sir. It happens with J as well.

I guess that floats their boat, then. I asked my grandfather about that, and under the army, was taught to say ma'am to any superior female officer or they got in a ton of trouble.

But hey, whatever floats their boat. *shrugs*

Jmath June 20th, 2009 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Warped Reflection (Post 4767339)
Gosh, next week's episode will be awesome.

Any particular reason why, though?:P

Vernikova June 20th, 2009 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmath (Post 4767468)
Any particular reason why, though?:P

It's an episode about Pikachu and Piplup of course. I think.

templekeeper June 20th, 2009 1:38 PM

I was watching this with heavy background noise and limited attention; what exactly was going on with the Mt. Coronet (right? Whate else?) on the computer screen? Were they channeling energy to the Spear Pillar with the meteorite machine? Were they locating it? Or...what?

Keyaki June 20th, 2009 1:41 PM

makes me wonder if Riley is a direct descendant of Sir Aaron XD

Vernikova June 20th, 2009 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by templekeeper (Post 4767490)
I was watching this with heavy background noise and limited attention; what exactly was going on with the Mt. Coronet (right? Whate else?) on the computer screen? Were they channeling energy to the Spear Pillar with the meteorite machine? Were they locating it? Or...what?

They were locating where Spear Pillar was but only scanned 60% of Mt. Coronet.

Trap-Eds June 20th, 2009 7:02 PM

Any episode with Team Galactic or Barry in it is awesome. Since both of them were: 10/10!!

chaos11011 June 21st, 2009 3:05 PM

Team Galactic was awesome.Ridely was there.IronIsland was diffrent than i thought it would be.


Mars was there <3

Wish June 21st, 2009 6:23 PM

Seems like I'm not the only one who caught the grunts calling Mars, "sir". XD

This is one of the few episodes I watched RAW, since I love Team Galactic episodes that much. Mars is definitely one of my favorite villains.

- Barry being there just makes it awesome. <3
- Lucario goes crazy.
- Got Pwned by Purugly
- Staravia's little twirl around Purugly. XD
- Lol I thought Mars got crushed. XDD
- "Sir"
- A BOMB! Mars is now one of my all-time favorite female Pokemon villains
- They were pretty powerful to deflect an explosion like that
- Boring explanation is boring
- Give Jupiter screentime dammit! >:

Vernikova June 21st, 2009 6:35 PM

Why are people making a fuss on a word? There have already been many times where a female had been called "Sir" on the show to show that she was their superior.

Blue_Drifblim June 22nd, 2009 8:56 AM

Lamp Oil? Check. Rope? Check. BOMBS!? Check.

This was a great episode. About time we finally find out why Team Galactic stole those meteorites, and Mars definitely took a step up the coolness ladder threatening to blow them up with the bombs on the island. Riley and Lucario were pretty awesome as well, containing the said bombs 'n stuff. TPCI/PUSA kept some of the better pieces of music in this episode, and it was cool to actually hear characters say "bombs"(No Blaster Balls here!)

Jorah June 22nd, 2009 9:17 AM

Blue_Drifblim, I was about to say why hadn't you posted in an episode discussion in ages, but you just have XD Yeah, they didn't leave in much BGM this episode, but they left a movie 9 piece in that went on for a long time (well, it seemed like a long time) so I suppose that's OK.

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Originally Posted by Warped Reflection (Post 4772117)
Why are people making a fuss on a word? There have already been many times where a female had been called "Sir" on the show to show that she was their superior.

I suppose not everyone watches every single episode :P But they have said it in about 3 or 4 episodes now.

Blue_Drifblim June 22nd, 2009 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorah (Post 4774141)
Blue_Drifblim, I was about to say why hadn't you posted in an episode discussion in ages, but you just have XD Yeah, they didn't leave in much BGM this episode, but they left a movie 9 piece in that went on for a long time (well, it seemed like a long time) so I suppose that's OK.

Yeah, I really haven't been on as much... I was on a trip for a wedding so things have been pretty busy. XD

But yeah, that piece is like three minutes long... what's funny though is that they left that whole three minute piece intact, but during the climax with Riley and Lucario, they cut the barely two minute piece in half. >_>

Make up your mind, PUSA. ._.

Jmath June 22nd, 2009 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Drifblim (Post 4774295)
But yeah, that piece is like three minutes long... what's funny though is that they left that whole three minute piece intact, but during the climax with Riley and Lucario, they cut the barely two minute piece in half. >_>

Make up your mind, PUSA. ._.

That piece (when was the last time it was there in the dub?) even went through to the last scene with Cyrus. Kinda ruins (no pun intended) the lingering doom what was supposed to be there.

BeachBoy June 22nd, 2009 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Warped Reflection (Post 4772117)
Why are people making a fuss on a word? There have already been many times where a female had been called "Sir" on the show to show that she was their superior.

Not all of us catch every episode, as Jorah said. This was the first time I've seen Mars (or any "superior female") directed as sir, and I just pointed out that as odd. We're not making a "fuss," we're just saying what we find as unusual for the first time. :(

Kitty! June 22nd, 2009 3:35 PM

MAAARRRSS. <3 <3 <3
I fricken love the chick. Almost as much as I've loved Haruka..! :D

But yeah. Every Team Galactic episode is pretty much amazing. Mars is too adorable. She's an evil little ****, but she's a cute little brat.

JUPITER DOES NEED MORE SCREENTIME. :x

But this episode had all for my delights. Ginga Dan. Mars. Jun. Riley.
and I love how they kept most of the original music! that's always a good thing. :]

"Shadow Lugia" June 22nd, 2009 4:05 PM

I don't normally criticize the plot, but Mars is a complete idiot.

Mars says if the group doesn't let her leave then she'll blow up the island while she's still on it.

Even if she was willing to kill herself, the helicopter has the Spear Key, which is certainly something Team Galactic doesn't want destroyed.

chaos11011 June 22nd, 2009 4:25 PM

Nice catch xD Thats Fail.....But Marsy doesnt mean it that way :3

Vernikova June 22nd, 2009 5:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorah (Post 4774141)
I suppose not everyone watches every single episode :P But they have said it in about 3 or 4 episodes now.

More like every episode where an evil organization has a female Commander/Elite Officer as well as grunts. Also, you don't need to see every episode since it isn't mentioned in every episode for obvious reasons.

Elekid Kid June 23rd, 2009 1:40 AM

Oooh look at me i'm ash i wont hurt pokemon *shudders*
the grunts hair is really stupid
they called mars sir
i bet ash wanted to use a stronger word than jerks but the producers said no
james cries bubbles
cyrus is teated like a god

Jorah June 23rd, 2009 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Warped Reflection (Post 4776029)
More like every episode where an evil organization has a female Commander/Elite Officer as well as grunts. Also, you don't need to see every episode since it isn't mentioned in every episode for obvious reasons.

I know. I looked it up, and that's about 7 episodes in the dub. There are over 100 episodes in DP. If you don't watch all the episodes, you could miss it, or just forget or not notice for whatever reason. Like you said, it's just a word, so not everyone's going to notice right away. Guaranteed the next episode with J people will be saying the same thing again XD
Oh, and thanks for answering my question up there ^^

Vernikova June 23rd, 2009 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4775808)
I don't normally criticize the plot, but Mars is a complete idiot.

Mars says if the group doesn't let her leave then she'll blow up the island while she's still on it.

Even if she was willing to kill herself, the helicopter has the Spear Key, which is certainly something Team Galactic doesn't want destroyed.

It was intended to be an empty threat. Either Ash and co. let her leave to fight another day or die right there.

Sarcastic Prince June 23rd, 2009 7:15 PM

Riley and Lucario are like, cool! They saved the whole Iron Island from Ruins! His voice is cool too!

Ash is somehow a idiot in his episode. "I can't Lucario. It's hurt." Bla, bla, bla, bla. I don't care about the Pokemon's Feelings. When the Pokemon is my enemy, I'll attack it at all causes.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! July 9th, 2009 3:14 PM

Lucario = Chuck norris after the way it took down Aggron last episode. My ELoT:

- Riley used Protect!
- It can't be THAT powerful. Nothing is more powerful than Chuck Norris.
- I thought you were at the bottom of this, Barry?
- C'mon Ash, we had the talk about this last episode.
- Why didn't you LET GO first?
- Newsflash: Piplup, as a penguin, CAN'T fly.
- Where exactly was Dawn keeping that Rope? o.O
- Really, Barry, when she's on top of you like that, you should be the one paying her XD
- So, basically, Aura is just another way of saying telekinesis?
- Pikachu on a bird? Please, not another "Thunder Armour"
- Chuck Norris is alive! rejoice, for the saviour lives!
- Bombs? Frickin' hell, Team G really is serious. Reminds me of this VG cats strip.
- Wait, hard ground = giant hands?
- How long does one explosion last?
- Chuck Norris pulled it off, like normal ;)

Charaxes July 10th, 2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Screw the rules, I have green hair! (Post 4838531)
- Chuck Norris is alive! rejoice, for the saviour lives!
- Bombs? Frickin' hell, Team G really is serious. Reminds me of this VG cats strip.

Yes, Chuck Norris is Jesus, if Jesus had Kung Fu Grip.

Yes, VG Cats is funny like that. Although, the Rocket would be more likely to stab you and then take your Pokemon, money and pants.

fenyx4 July 25th, 2009 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruka Prince (Post 4780754)
Riley and Lucario are like, cool! They saved the whole Iron Island from Ruins! His voice is cool too!

Ash is somehow a idiot in his episode. "I can't Lucario. It's hurt." Bla, bla, bla, bla. I don't care about the Pokemon's Feelings. When the Pokemon is my enemy, I'll attack it at all causes.

Just saw this ep recently (well, probably the 2nd-half of the ep), and as of now, I have 3 comments (sorry for abruptly reviving this old thread!):
1. Mars, Riley, and Lucario (along with the majority of this ep) are the bomb. :pirate:
2. The aura-contained explosion(s) was/were PUR-TY. :D
3. Ash needs to get his ethics, etc. straight. He's willing to risk his life and run straight into the middle of 2 psychic cats' attacks, yet he wasted time in thinking of whether to attack a 'possessed' Lucario (which would be considered your enemy)?
And didn't I recall Ash stomping on a Salamence's head or something in EP538? I agree with the quote up there. If something's your enemy, possessed or not, you attack it ASAP to be rid of whatever the problem is in the first place, otherwise, you're just prolonging the situation and asking for further damage, consequences, and/or problems... :cer_no:


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