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NatureKeeper June 25th, 2009 4:14 AM

FireRed is edited massively. WHY?
 
I just have a simple question that I need an answer for.

Umm... I really saw nice editions everywhere, but why when I enter the first page I find most prefixes FireRed Hack? I mean I like LeafGreen, Sapphire, Ruby, Emerald but why FireRed? Ok, Emerald is eventful, so it is hard. So are RSE, but why isn't leafgreen edited?

tImE June 25th, 2009 10:31 AM

Most probably because Leafgreen and Firered are using different HEX pointers,
and in FR more pointers have been "foundW than LG, that way you can edit more in LG.

At least that's what I think.


//44tim44

GKS June 25th, 2009 11:09 AM

Even though FireRed and LeafGreen seem very similar, I doubt they are and they may have differences when you are actually hack it. This could give insight to why people don't regard LeafGreen as the same, because they aren't

hi sir tomato my password is syvniti June 25th, 2009 12:07 PM

Drug additcs will be where the drugs are...
Tool addics will hack what the tools aloud them too...

And Fire red is just a nice game..

sab June 25th, 2009 12:38 PM

It's because all the tools work on fire red. the reason emerald isn't hacked is because it is so unstable. saphire and leafgrean aren't as popular as their counterparts, I think that ruby is the best, but people claim firered has better graphics.

.com June 25th, 2009 12:59 PM

I don't see it as much for the tools, but I usually hack FireRed for hacks because of the lack of the truck intro in it, and more tile space. Otherwise, I'd always hack Ruby, but I'd rather just hack FR to avoid working around the truck intro and setting the flags and vars otherwise, plus have more tile/tileset space.

Tyrantrum June 25th, 2009 2:22 PM

Preferably nicer graphics, and mostly easier for most hackers. Also, the reason why LG hasn't really been used in hacks, is, I believe, it glitches up more, like Sapphire. A hacker named cooley tried to make his hack off of LeafGreen version, but had too many problems with it, and switched to FireRed.

PlatniumPiano June 25th, 2009 4:09 PM

I hack Ruby, mainly because of the influx of firered hacks. I think becuase most people take after most of the great hacks, which were fire red. I personally have not tired a full on fire red hack, but I'm content with Ruby version, it works fine to me...

IIMarckus June 25th, 2009 4:57 PM

People keep saying LeafGreen and Emerald are “unstable.” This is a misconception. Some offsets are different between FireRed and LeafGreen, and others between Ruby and Emerald. When tools modify LeafGreen and put data at the offsets for FireRed, of course this will cause problems—but this is because of bugs in the tools, not anything inherent to the ROMs themselves.

Sarcastic Prince June 26th, 2009 2:30 AM

There isn't a problem in Emerald as I inserted dozens of successful Earthquake Scripts based on Emerald.

And now to your question: Why FR is commonly hacked by people? Reason: LG and FR have different Hex Pointers, just like Tim said.

cooley June 26th, 2009 6:47 AM

I used to hack Leafgreen, back in '07 but it was harder than FireRed..Most of the tutorials were things found out for firered, such as the World map/ Editing sprites/ etc. And hacking the titlescreen was definitely harder than Leafgreen.
Even though FireRed has limited Tilesets, Music, and sprites..It sure is a lot better than Ruby.

P.S. Most people go with what's comfortable for them.

hi sir tomato my password is syvniti June 26th, 2009 10:41 AM

I know why fire red is hacked more... Because abouts people ignorance...

Prove...:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sab (Post 4787416)
It's because all the tools work on fire red. the reason emerald isn't hacked is because it is so unstable. saphire and leafgrean aren't as popular as their counterparts, I think that ruby is the best, but people claim firered has better graphics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasquatchd00d (Post 4787726)
Yeah, but if you look in the toolbox, the truck can be removed now. Or so the author says. I haven't personally tested this.

Like many said, Emerald and Leaf Green are pretty unstable and Sapphire isn't as popular as Ruby. Personally, I just like Fire Red more than Ruby as a game. That's why I prefer to hack it.


Sarcastic Prince June 27th, 2009 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sab (Post 4787416)
It's because all the tools work on fire red. the reason emerald isn't hacked is because it is so unstable. saphire and leafgrean aren't as popular as their counterparts, I think that ruby is the best, but people claim firered has better graphics.

Emerald isn't unstable. It's just that people didn't try to put a lot of effort in it.

Dawn's Hat June 27th, 2009 6:14 AM

Because RSE is a load of crap.

Sarcastic Prince June 27th, 2009 6:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn's Hat (Post 4793842)
Because RSE is a load of crap.

Crap, eh? If it's crap, DJG Hacks are crap? Think about it.

Dawn's Hat June 27th, 2009 6:17 AM

I'm talking about the games. Not the hacks. And who's DJG?

Banjora Marxvile June 27th, 2009 6:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn's Hat (Post 4793852)
I'm talking about the games. Not the hacks. And who's DJG?

The quality of the games doesn't change the hacking quality. DJG is destinedjagold.

Anyway, people hack Firered for the reason that they believe it is better. It is about opinions. I personally prefer Ruby, due to the Day/Night, the 2 bikes, and the music. Neither are easier, nor harder, it is about how much time you spend on them.

Pokepal17 June 27th, 2009 6:22 AM

It's hacked because it's, in my opinion, easier to hack and easier to implement your own features which shows off talent and creativity. But that's just my opinion. :P

@Dawn's Hat: DJG is Destinedjagold, who is a moderator in the ROM Hacking section and a Ruby hacker.

Dawn's Hat June 27th, 2009 6:25 AM

You mean the Ruby Destiny guy? Those games weren't for me - they were a bit too similar to RSE, which were quite bad.

Banjora Marxvile June 27th, 2009 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn's Hat (Post 4793881)
You mean the Ruby Destiny guy? Those games weren't for me - they were a bit too similar to RSE, which were quite bad.

Umm, you have NEVER played Rescue Rangers or Life of Guardian's, have you? They are nothing like Ruby, only Reign of Legends did a little, but it was his first hack! They show Ruby can be just as good to hack than Firered.

Pokepal17 June 27th, 2009 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn's Hat (Post 4793881)
You mean the Ruby Destiny guy? Those games weren't for me - they were a bit too similar to RSE, which were quite bad.

That was because they were made in a time when not much was known about R/S/E hacking.

There's nothing wrong with Ruby, it's not some people's cup of tea.
The graphics can easily be changed, but I don't like hacking Ruby.

Sarcastic Prince June 27th, 2009 6:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn's Hat (Post 4793881)
You mean the Ruby Destiny guy? Those games weren't for me - they were a bit too similar to RSE, which were quite bad.

Don't go on commenting DJG. He's awesome! The Hacks he made are unimaginable!

Vednix June 27th, 2009 7:13 AM

It's high in GBA graphics, and there are a lot of tools for the GBA games.

Cartmic June 27th, 2009 1:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokepal17 (Post 4793900)
That was because they were made in a time when not much was known about R/S/E hacking.

There's nothing wrong with Ruby, it's not some people's cup of tea.
The graphics can easily be changed, but I don't like hacking Ruby.

Actually people have known a lot about Ruby since about 2004.

ProClifo June 29th, 2009 4:11 PM

My reason is that PKSVUI is only working in FRLG, and the reason I chose FireRed was because it sounds cooler, lol.


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