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luke June 29th, 2009 11:20 AM

Allowed Groups?
 
http://www.pokecommunity.com/group.php?groupid=1226

Now my memory may be foggy from my time on staff, but I'm pretty sure exclusive clubs only open to three people were against the rules?

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:24 AM

I doubt such a rule exists. Social Groups can have rules as determined by their group maintainer (me, in this case).

Edited it slightly so I'm not restricting people from joining :)

Percy Thrillington June 29th, 2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britney Spears (Post 4803195)
http://www.pokecommunity.com/group.php?groupid=1226

Now my memory may be foggy from my time on staff, but I'm pretty sure exclusive clubs only open to three people were against the rules?

I sure that if Spey made it, it's okay, because Spey is the only true saviour of PokéCommunity.

How dare you question the work of our divine leader!?

GKS June 29th, 2009 11:26 AM

It says that he is allowing anyone to join, but some parts of them are restricted to three only. I don't know if that is allowed or not.

Are you kidding me Rekhyt?

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:29 AM

No, I didn't say 3 people. I stated "anyone can join, but some parts are restricted to specific members devoted to fixing rep on PC". I'm sorry for not making myself clear enough. :(

processr June 29th, 2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803238)
No, I didn't say 3 people. I stated "anyone can join, but some parts are restricted to specific members devoted to fixing rep on PC". I'm sorry for not making myself clear enough. :(

"There is one discussion anyone can post in (Reputation Discussion). All other discussions are private and are for PPNSteve, Alex_ and Spey's eyes only."

Who died and made you king? =|

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:31 AM

That is an error on my part, thanks for spotting that! :)

luke June 29th, 2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803208)
I doubt such a rule exists. Social Groups can have rules as determined by their group maintainer (me, in this case).

Edited it slightly so I'm not restricting people from joining :)

Sweetie, I was on H-Staff when Social Groups were made and the rules were set. I know full well you can restrict group membership to a few members. They're not very social if that's how they work. Plus, I don't see how two non-staff members and one admin are going to come to a major decision on a forum-wide matter that you personally seem to very obsessed with.

Percy Thrillington June 29th, 2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by G.K.S. (Post 4803214)
Are you kidding me Rekhyt?

No, my heart exists only for the tasks Spey presents me with as of now. Hopefully he'll be able to fix PokéCommunity and make it good, and free of people who misuse the reputation system!

GKS June 29th, 2009 11:34 AM

I'm not sure how much power the staff here are giving a creator of a group, it's up to the staff to decide.

Off Topic:
How are you going to fix rep, Spey? It seems that your group may lead to rep abuse in the future.

I'm just saying what I though, don't take it the wrong way, Spey.

Mobile Tsk June 29th, 2009 11:34 AM

Yes, there is a clear rule against that, but I think that group is open to anyone. The way I intepreted it, there was just nothing for anyone but those 3 to do but grandstand in a circle and post in 1 topic that is more suitable by other means.

I really don't think the groups necessary anyway. I agree with Luke (I hope I didn't leave the door open, I wouldn't want any of those flying pigs to get in my house) regardless of Spey's intent.

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.K.S. (Post 4803276)
Off Topic:
How are you going to fix rep, Spey? It seems that your group may lead to rep abuse in the future.

I'm just saying what I though, don't take it the wrong way, Spey.

I don't take lots the wrong way, but I see what you are coming at. :\

We'll simply be trying to fix the abnormally large numbers of rep abuse. This includes users sending rep without comments, making spam comments such as "Correcting others is rude" etc, and drafting up punishments.

Please note all of this is at discretion of the Rep Team leader of the group (Rukario), and he can bring this up with the Adminstrators as he sees fit to. :)

processr June 29th, 2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.K.S. (Post 4803276)
Off Topic:
How are you going to fix rep, Spey? It seems that your group may lead to rep abuse in the future.

He'll fix rep through rep abuse itself, of course. I spied a group on his Autism group that had its members colluding to +rep each other just to get their scores up. If that's not rep abuse I don't know what is.

Mobile Tsk June 29th, 2009 11:38 AM

I doubt Steve ever agreed to any of this

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribulations (Post 4803300)
He'll fix rep through rep abuse itself, of course. I spied a group on his Autism group that had its members colluding to +rep each other just to get their scores up. If that's not rep abuse I don't know what is.

Autism is hard for us, please do not go insulting those with autism. We have to support each other, and that is positively repping posts that got spam de-repped. That is all.

Chibi-chan June 29th, 2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803238)
No, I didn't say 3 people. I stated "anyone can join, but some parts are restricted to specific members devoted to fixing rep on PC". I'm sorry for not making myself clear enough. :(

If you have an issue with reputation, I think it's something you should talk about with upper staff rather than something you feel the need to discuss among yourselves. There's nothing you will ever get from doing that. Go to the people that can make a difference if you feel it's a pressing issue than making an exclusive 'humbug' group. That's not what social groups are for.

Quote:

Autism is hard for us, please do not go insulting those with autism. We have to support each other, and that is positively repping posts that got spam de-repped. That is all.
Autism isn't an excuse for trying to gain rep. It's still rep abuse. Don't pull that card.

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by C'est si bon (Post 4803306)
I doubt Steve ever agreed to any of this

One of the members, Alex_, said he contacted PPNSteve about this. I'm not too sure about this now, until I see the actual PM sent to confirm this. :\

GKS June 29th, 2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribulations (Post 4803300)
He'll fix rep through rep abuse itself, of course. I spied a group on his Autism group that had its members colluding to +rep each other just to get their scores up. If that's not rep abuse I don't know what is.

I really like the rep system and I hope the staff doesn't just disable it because of these problems. If Rukario is watching them, then it would be alright, but I'm sure Rukario is a very busy person.

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi-chan (Post 4803313)
If you have an issue with reputation, I think it's something you should talk about with upper staff rather than something you feel the need to discuss among yourselves. There's nothing you will ever get from doing that. Go to the people that can make a difference if you feel it's a pressing issue than making an exclusive 'humbug' group. That's not what social groups are for.

Some higher staff do nothing IMO. Or just say the same thing, "disable rep, it doesn't matter much". To some of us, it does matter, and I'd like to see an end to spam rep and potential useless rep with no comments or mini-modding through rep.

processr June 29th, 2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803309)
Autism is hard for us, please do not go insulting those with autism.

Uh, I wasn't?

Quote:

We have to support each other, and that is positively repping posts that got spam de-repped. That is all.
So you wanted the members of the group to +rep each other for a reason unrelated to the content of the post? That smacks of hypocrisy for someone who is forever complained about supposedly being -rep'd for that very reason.

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.K.S. (Post 4803318)
I really like the rep system and I hope the staff doesn't just disable it because of these problems. If Rukario is watching them, then it would be alright, but I'm sure Rukario is a very busy person.

Well, the group's main intention is to find these problems, and try to find a way to resolve them. :)

GKS June 29th, 2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803329)
Well, the group's main intention is to find these problems, and try to find a way to resolve them. :)

If it isn't rep abuse, good luck with it.

luke June 29th, 2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803309)
Autism is hard for us, please do not go insulting those with autism. We have to support each other, and that is positively repping posts that got spam de-repped. That is all.

That is just as much abuse as people neg repping you. It's hypocrisy.

Sajuuk June 29th, 2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribulations (Post 4803327)
So you wanted the members of the group to +rep each other for a reason unrelated to the content of the post? That smacks of hypocrisy for someone who is forever complained about supposedly being -rep'd for that very reason.

No. Rep is meant to show how good the post is, not for flaming users. Some of the autistics of PC get negative reputation because people flame them. We want to try and actually boost up each other's rep's to show that there are people out there that care about us.

processr June 29th, 2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4803339)
No. Rep is meant to show how good the post is, not for flaming users. Some of the autistics of PC get negative reputation because people flame them. We want to try and actually boost up each other's rep's to show that there are people out there that care about us.

Clearly we're wasting our time trying to explain this to you.


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