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KostK2Boss February 18th, 2014 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8023862)
I do agree with ya there dude, I think X/Y's 3D models made me fall in love with some Pokemon I never liked a lot previously. And I was actually quite shocked when I noticed that Marill and Azumarill's tail lights up, that's kinda cool I have to say and funnily enough there was no evidence of it until now.

Take a look at this animation of Azumarill and you'll see it:
http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/azumarill-2.gif

Oddly enough, when a shiny Azumarill (which is yellow) attacks, its tail still flashes blue!

Zorogami February 19th, 2014 2:11 AM

Ive never realized how much Flareons furr has changed throughout the games! My favorite has to be the brownish/beige one in HG/SS. And the detail about Azumarills tail has never caught my eye before, thats great. One of the sprites that weirded me out the most was Sentret in X/Y. I always pictured him on its tail, but apparently he just stands...oh yeah, and he is way fatter than i thought.

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/161.png http://serebii.net/xy/pokemon/161.png

εcho. February 21st, 2014 12:49 AM

Yeah, Sentret looks really strange this gen. So does Furret.

http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/162.png
It looks like a tube with legs. Or like it's trying to imitate the Nike swoosh.


I liked Flareons white fluff as well, I had forgotten it used to look like that.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/3f/Spr_4d_136.png - I love how playful it looks in this sprite!

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/dd/Spr_1y_136.png First gen is totally my favourite sprite, I dunno why, maybe nostalgia reasons? It just looks so mysterious and pretty!


Also, that thing about Azumarills tail is wicked, I love it. I'll have to try using an Azumarill myself sometime. :P

Mochika Rage February 21st, 2014 7:56 AM

I think Furret's sprite is quite cute, but I agree that it's like the Nike symbol. The fact about Azumarill's sprite is really cool as well!

Wow, I just looked at Ninetales's sprites and they're really nice. Well, except for Green, and the back sprite. The back sprite looks like a paintbrush. I love the pokémon Yellow sprite for Ninetales.

Hikamaru February 26th, 2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everlark (Post 8100546)
I prefer Flareon with the white fluff also. It's more offset than the yellow and the tan. Also, all the Eeveelutions seemed to get weird legs in HGSS iirc. I don't feel like gathering sprites right now, but I know Jolteon and Vaporeon were weird. Jolteon's face is the biggest problem though.

Yeah I gotta admit the Eeveelution sprites in HG/SS were designed quite weirdly, namely the first five Eeveelutions. Vaporeon's pose wasn't really that cool which was kinda sad given it's one of my three fave Eeveelutions ever.

But you know, while X/Y changed some thoughts towards certain Pokemon, I love how they colored them closer to the official Sugimori art as opposed to how they colored some sprites until now, take Stunky (and to an extension, Skuntank as well) for example:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c0/Spr_4d_434.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/f/ff/Spr_4p_434.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/92/Spr_5b_434.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/434.png

See how much the "tan" colored stripe on its back evolved over the generations. In HG/SS, while it retained its sprite from Platinum it made the tan color lighter but still not close enough to the official art. X/Y finally remedied that, and they finally made its purple darker just like in the official art.

Also, god I remember how derpy it used to look in that sprite in D/P... Platinum made it a bit more fierce-looking lol. But still, I love looking back at how the art of Pokemon sprites has changed over the generations. Definitely shows art skills improve over time I guess.

RedTerabyte February 27th, 2014 8:17 AM

I like the Nike Furret, it actually does look like it's trying to imitate it. xD

One X/Y sprite I was surprised about is Xatu. All throughout the generations he always stood up, usually with his wings in. When I first saw him in battle, I was surprised he flew! I've never really seen a Xatu fly.

http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite/178.png

Compared to:

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/xatu.gif

Also, does anyone else think some sprites look a little.. bland? The old sprites always looked vivid and colorful, while some models look kinda dull. Numel for example:

http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite/322.png - http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/numel.gif

If you compare X/Y models to Pokedex 3D Pro models, you can see a difference in color as well.

Zorogami March 13th, 2014 2:01 AM

Haha flying Xatu looks great, i hadnt seen it before! I have to agree on the occasional bland sprites. It does seem like some Pokemon have less color than needed, i wonder why. That flying Xatu reminds me though: I was really suprised to see that Salamence sprite is in flight in X/Y. I know he is a flying type and that he has wings, but since he¨s so very bulky ive always pictured him on his feet.



http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/salamence.gif

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 4:35 PM

I hate all the "flying" Pokemon who don't flap their wings, it looks so mechanic and awkward. Salamence especially looks so weird.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 5:22 PM

I'm not a fan of the hovering, either. It looks REALLY strange. Unless your ability is Levitate, you should not be hovering like that.

Treecko March 20th, 2014 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroblast (Post 8156721)
I hate all the "flying" Pokemon who don't flap their wings, it looks so mechanic and awkward. Salamence especially looks so weird.

It makes sense to me for it flap it's wing given it does fly. We just never seen it fly outside the anime.

Am I the only one who finds Hoppip's animation weird?

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hoppip.gif

I almost burst out laughing looking at it. I forgotten it flies that way. XD That they animated it differently in past gens.
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/187.gif

Sydian March 20th, 2014 5:46 PM

Hoppip doesn't even know how to Hoppip.

Treecko March 20th, 2014 5:51 PM

Oh my god Syd, you get best comment in this thread . On a semi-related note, why is Shiftry flapping it's leaves?

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/shiftry.gif

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 5:57 PM

I guess it's to try to make it look like it's moving a little.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 7:06 PM

Shiftry is a boss and does what he wants, obviously.

Treecko March 20th, 2014 7:39 PM

Yeah that makes sense (and I agree with Jak) but it's still weird to me. I think it should used them like swords for more bossness.

As a Treecko fan , I sort of wish its X and Y animation was more interesting. :/

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/treecko.gif

But it does show how calm and collected they are so maybe it fits.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 7:42 PM

itt kouzan posts sprites while jak makes stupid comments about them

treecko looks like he is inhaling SWAG

and at least shiftry doesn't look like this anymore:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/05/Spr_3r_275.png

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jak (Post 8157023)
itt kouzan posts sprites while jak makes stupid comments about them

treecko looks like he is inhaling SWAG

Sounds like you're drunk. lol.

I'm kind of disappointed in the Lugia animation for XY, though.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 7:55 PM

Nah. I haven't had a drink in a while, actually. I plan on just drinking a night away with my boyfriend during spring break, though. We ain't goin' nowhere.

Anyway, I went to take a look at Lugia and just...yeah. A bit disappointing. I'll always be a fan of the Crystal sprite, personally.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/1/13/Spr_2c_249_s.gif

I should use that as avatar. It doesn't look bad with orange like everything else lmao.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/f/ff/Spr_3r_249.png

I hate this. wtf lugia

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 8:04 PM

That was my seemingly perennial avatar when I first came to PC, but feel free to carry out my legacy.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 8:21 PM

No babe, you continue to be PC's shiny Lugia.

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/249.gif

Kind of looks like he can't keep himself in the air.

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 8:54 PM

Well, it is 17 feet tall and over 450 pounds (off the top of my head).

Hikamaru March 20th, 2014 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kouzan (Post 8156833)
It makes sense to me for it flap it's wing given it does fly. We just never seen it fly outside the anime.

Am I the only one who finds Hoppip's animation weird?

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hoppip.gif

I almost burst out laughing looking at it. I forgotten it flies that way. XD That they animated it differently in past gens.
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/187.gif

Yeah I have to admit that surprised me the first time I ran into a Hoppip horde, I was like "Uh what? Hoppip's leaves spin around?". But yeah I was so used to how it was shown flying in the anime and its previous sprites that the X/Y model came as a shock.

One that really surprised me when I saw it on internet was Aipom:

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/aipom.gif

The whole "hop on one leg" looks very weird plus some of its previous sprites usually depicted it standing on its own tail. I do love the Aipom line but it looks so weird in that position in X/Y, hopping on one leg like that.

As far as actual size of the models in-game goes, I was so surprised at Tirtouga. That thing is quite a tiny turtle! Thankfully Carracosta turned out better, which is a good improvement because I didn't really like Carracosta's animation in 5th Gen that much. The line in general do at least look good as far as actual model design goes, but yeah I have to admit it was weird seeing Tirtouga look so small, and I did get the chance to see it as I revived one from a Cover Fossil I got in the Glittering Cave.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 9:34 PM

As far as Aipom goes, I think they took from the 3D models from Colo/Stadium. That's how he stands in those games...looks more comfortable than using that tail imo, but to each their own. By "their" I mean the Aipom, obviously.

Hikamaru March 20th, 2014 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jak (Post 8157167)
As far as Aipom goes, I think they took from the 3D models from Colo/Stadium. That's how he stands in those games...looks more comfortable than using that tail imo, but to each their own. By "their" I mean the Aipom, obviously.

I remember they even used the same animation Gengar's model from Stadium used. Pretty nice blast to the past I have to say, but there are some cases where the 3D models from stuff like Stadium/Colosseum/Battle Revolution where the animations were different.

Treecko March 20th, 2014 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jak (Post 8157023)
itt kouzan posts sprites while jak makes stupid comments about them

treecko looks like he is inhaling SWAG

and at least shiftry doesn't look like this anymore:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/05/Spr_3r_275.png

We're cool aren't we?

That's one of the few times where swag is acceptable cause the word "Treecko" is in front of it. It's true, he has a ton of swag.


Lugia flies perfectly in the movies but can't keep himself in the air in the games? C'MON LUGIA GET IT TOGETHER.

One of my favorites from X and Y is Hitmontop.

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hitmontop.gif

Look at those moves.

And Volbeat

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/volbeat.gif

It's like he's saying YOU SAY SOMETHING TO ME HUH PUNK? COME AT ME BRO!

Okay I think I need sleep now.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 9:52 PM

I was staring at my signature and realized we went from Altaria being lazy and sitting down to actually flapping its waaangs in XY. I think GameFreak is telling me to get off my fluffy butt??? rooooood!

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hitmontop.gif

i am actually CRYING tears right now because this is the most beautiful thing i have ever seen in my entire life

Aeroblast March 20th, 2014 9:59 PM

I've been staring at that hitmontop gif for 20 minutes. Can't. stop. staring.

Sydian March 20th, 2014 10:00 PM

I can't either like I am just legit amazed by this right now. I don't know if it's because it's 1 AM or Hitmontop is just that interesting or both.

Hikamaru March 20th, 2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jak (Post 8157192)
I was staring at my signature and realized we went from Altaria being lazy and sitting down to actually flapping its waaangs in XY. I think GameFreak is telling me to get off my fluffy butt??? rooooood!

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hitmontop.gif

i am actually CRYING tears right now because this is the most beautiful thing i have ever seen in my entire life

I have to admit it's funny not seeing Hitmontop balancing on his head, but oh god that little dance is so fun to look at. Such a shame I never got to see one in-game, but yeah it's definitely one of the best animated models in X/Y.

And I agree on Altaria, it looks way better with its wings spread out:

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/altaria.gif

How could you not love Altaria when it's like that? I know it's had wings open in 4th Gen as well but X/Y made it 10x better because it's now actually flapping them!

jdthebud March 20th, 2014 10:01 PM

I actually like the BW sprites better than the models from X/Y. The colors are better, and they seem to have more details overall. The models just look weird mostly, although I do like the extra movements when they perform attacks.

For example:
http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/alakazam-2.gif

Sydian March 20th, 2014 10:05 PM

Hitmontop confirmed for best model/dancer ever.

Also, I agree with JD. I like the vibrant colors that Pokemon have in Gen V. For example, shiny Totodile is a bright seagreen in gen IV and V, but in VI, he's really dull. My boyfriend says he thinks they look the same, but the older sprites look brighter than the new 3D model. I can't be arsed to find the sprites at the moment though.

Hikamaru March 20th, 2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdthebud (Post 8157208)
I actually like the BW sprites better than the models from X/Y. The colors are better, and they seem to have more details overall. The models just look weird mostly, although I do like the extra movements when they perform attacks.

For example:
http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/alakazam-2.gif

Oh wow Alakazam makes its spoons float, that's really cool.

But I do love how the Pokemon now have extra movement when they are attacking, one of my faves has to be that awesome ninja pose that Greninja does when using a lot of special-based moves, and also Vivillon scattering powder when it attacks.

I also noticed the color of the powder Vivillon scatters in that animation changes based on its wing pattern, because I saw it with Viola's Meadow Vivillon once, and it was pink but when I used it with my River Vivillon, the powder was blue. I have a feeling most of the others will scatter powder that matches their wing pattern's dominant color (like green for Garden, purple for Elegant, red for Modern etc). I've only seen Meadow and River in-game (the latter being my native one) so someone should tell me what the color differences in that animation are for the rest of the wing patterns.

Treecko March 20th, 2014 10:26 PM

I have to agree that the colors for sprites in BW were so much brighter and colorful than the XY models. This is disappointing. But I love the animations for XY better. Like our favorite dancer Hitmontop.
http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/hitmontop.gif

Zorogami March 21st, 2014 1:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kouzan (Post 8157251)

Didnt you guys expect Hitmontop to be spinning on his head?? I know i did
I love how each Pokemon has a unique animation for special/physical attacks as well! Makes it all look better

Treecko March 21st, 2014 2:10 AM

He's better this way. Hitmontop shall dance like there's no tomorrow forever and ever.

COOLTRAINER♂ March 21st, 2014 5:16 AM

The colors are different, yes, but that's mainly because of the difference on graphics and that XY aim to replicate the official art style much more. You can't copy the colors from a drawing onto a tiny sprite without it looking dull and muddled and you don't need to jack up the saturation for 3D models that are a lot larger and distinct on screen.

ShadowGeralt June 1st, 2014 1:40 AM

http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/goomy-2.gif http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/goomy-3.gif
Do I have to say something about it? Just look at it! It's cute and awesome!
It's amazing how Pokemon sprites evolved from awful to beautiful. Pretty cool that I witnessed all changes since I was a kid. I was evolving just like them and I don't know how far this can go. Still, Goomy is cute!

Treecko June 2nd, 2014 9:40 PM

You know how we were talking about how Hitmontop's animation in X and Y looks like he's dancing?

WELL THIS WAS JUST ON MY TUMBLR DASHBOARD HOLY FREAKING CRAP. XD

http://legionaire-extraordinaire.tumblr.com/post/87671105613/groomp



(I can't remember if reviving is okay here. Sorry if it's not.)

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE June 4th, 2014 9:50 PM

I've been waiting ages to see the East Sea version of Shellos in X/Y and I finally found it and was not disappointed!! :)


http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/shellos-east.gif


Just look at that cuteness haha, the X/Y sprite has actually made me like it even more than before which I didn't think was possible lol :)


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