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Water Dragon July 7th, 2009 5:45 AM

Best Or Worst Pokemon Games?
 
If anyone's like me pokemon gold and silver was sheer magic, personally it topped R/B/Y.

When I heard there was going to be a remake I was overjoyed, yet fearful.

Is anyone else scared there going to take away the magic that was Gold and Silver?

Tyrantrum July 7th, 2009 6:09 AM

Nope. I'm fine with everything that has to do with Pokémon. :3
Except for Trozei... >>;

Water Dragon July 7th, 2009 6:13 AM

Yeahh me too kinda, I'll deffo be getting it, but its gunna be hard to live up to the expectations that they gave us 10 years ago. Maybe it might just be a modern version with afew more twists, but there was definately something unique about the old ones. I don't know if a modern version would feel the same?

Neko July 7th, 2009 6:16 AM

Gosh I would hope not. x-x; Then again, it's unlikely they will. If anything, it'll be better with the improved graphics and the added features.

Water Dragon July 7th, 2009 6:39 AM

Yeah, thats what i'm hoping too. The games had so many great features; even the small one's made the game what it was. i.e the haircut brothers, ditto breeding, swarms, 'old' kanto, pokegear, god old team rocket. Total revoloutionised the pokemon games.

They done a good job with R/B remakes, so fingers crossed these will be the same. =]

Precious Tears July 7th, 2009 7:05 AM

I think it's a new magic,
compare the pictures from this game to all the previous main games,
obviously HG/SS had the best pics I've ever seen.[=
Especially Clair and Morty's Gym and outside of Tin Tower.
I couldn't use words to explain...
All I could say is OMG!!
Believe these games will not disappoint us.

Water Dragon July 7th, 2009 7:10 AM

I hope ur right =]. I'm sure they wouldn't attempt to give us a second class pokemon game, but its got alot to do if it hopes to out do its original, lets hope it does :D

Eggie Poo Poo July 7th, 2009 7:25 AM

Well I buy everything that is Pokemon, so I will get it. The commercial has kind of showed me they know what they are doing, for the MOST part. So yeah it'll be great :)

Mitchman July 7th, 2009 7:26 AM

Best is a simple word. Perfection or the perfect Pokemon game would be more like it imo.

kiv_umar July 7th, 2009 7:29 AM

I agree, Gold/Silver were by far the perfect work from gamefreak (although i got crystal and got given both gold and silver afterwards), i hope that HG/SS will be just as Magical as the originals but i am obviously getting them:D

Sweet Smoochum July 7th, 2009 7:54 AM

This game will not destroy the old magic of the originals. Nostalgia is nostalgia. There is new magic when it comes to Heart Gold and Soul Silver. Some never before seen ideas were put into this game: any Pokemon has the ability to follow you (best idea ever!); menu, pc boxs, pack, etc, are all on the touch screen, you get to see more than just the backpack in the pack section. (You see the back of the trainer wearing the pack.) Updated music of the original game. It kept the nostalgic feel without bleeping noises. There's a new item called a Pokewalker which brings a whole new meaning to the term: Pocket Monster. New areas to explore. Updated Gyms. Some with new puzzles. (Blackthorn gym.) Even though this is a remake, there are still plenty of surprises. These games will be incredible. This game may even make people want to buy the originals for comparisons. Or to feel 100% nostalgia.

Allure XI July 7th, 2009 7:58 AM

I'd be surprised if there was ever a Pokemon game made that was as great as the original Gold and Silver, and a I don't think HGSS will entirely restore that "magic."

That said, I don't think it will destroy it, either. FRLG didn't change my views of the 1st gen at all (nor I like them as much as RBY), and even if HGSS are just "okay," that won't ruin that amazingness of 2nd gen in my eyes.

Ayselipera July 7th, 2009 8:12 AM

No I'm sure it will be just as good as the original.
I was fully satisfied with FR/LG and if they stick to the same formula I will be satisfied again.

Mobile Tsk July 7th, 2009 8:22 AM

I don't know if it's the best or not, but I'm sure it'll surpass the horrors of RSE and DPP. So it can't be the worst.

Zero° July 7th, 2009 8:26 AM

best is G/S/C as for the worst, I think it's HG/SS
I realy don't like remakes for games, especially Pokemon. It ruins it's originality, plus when people get HG/SS they'll forget about the originals, and not play them as much or at all

Water Dragon July 7th, 2009 8:32 AM

I can see where ur coming from too zero.

Thats my only worry, them games were so original, and thats whjat made them so unique.

I have such a great memory of playing them games, i just hope the remakes don't runin that.

xxChazxx July 7th, 2009 9:37 AM

The remakes, even if they were to be terrible, could never destroy G/S/C. That series was just too great to be negatively affected by anything other than themselves.

Miss Soupy July 7th, 2009 9:58 AM

wat
No. If anything, I'll be having total nostalgia moments over seeing everything in remade graphics. "Haha, I remember doing this part so many years ago." D:

I understand where you're coming from, though. The magic for this one will be different, however. If you've played the GSC games before, it'll be experiencing the magic all over again with added on features; while if you've never played the games before, it'll be the magic of playing in a region you've never explored before.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ July 7th, 2009 10:03 AM

If you believe that these remakes will take the magic away from the old ones then thats your problem and you need to work that out. I buy everything (except for the latest ranger game) of Pokemon


:t354:TG

The Darkest Gale July 7th, 2009 10:16 AM

pokemon dash was crap >=/ I wish you could be more than just pikachu =)
and you could vs differrent pokemon like legends =o
I found the menu when you could abuse pikachu was the most fun XD
well play with it XD lol

derozio July 8th, 2009 6:18 AM

FR/LG were good and thus I believe that HGSS too will be good. They can never destroy what we felt when we played the IInd gen games. As they will be good(nintendo never made a bad game! Not even R/S/E were bad!) I don't think there is any need to think about them to be bad or to destroy our past experiences or anything else!

z-cune July 8th, 2009 10:26 AM

I don't think the remakes will break GSC's 'magic', because the remakes are still different games then GSC. I mean they cannot 'harm' the originals because they aren't the same, you know.
We know that Kanto was included in GSC and we didn't say that GSC broke the magic of RBY, because they were different games.

The magic in the original GSC games are in no way affected by other games.

Anxiety. July 8th, 2009 4:48 PM

They probably will. But I'll get it anyway. It's not like I have anything better to do.

Ecks-Dee July 9th, 2009 1:13 AM

I don't think it will take away from the magic because i didn't really like the Gold and Silver generation anyway >.> They can only improve...*gets shot for that* XD

Dawn's Hat July 9th, 2009 4:21 AM

If they pull it off, it'll be brilliant. But we'll have to wait.

Ryanniny July 9th, 2009 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecks-Dee (Post 4835795)
I don't think it will take away from the magic because i didn't really like the Gold and Silver generation anyway >.> They can only improve...*gets shot for that* XD

*shoots* :P
nah i mean fair do's if you didn't like them
personally, i loved them and i'm proepr excited for the remakes.
its just a shame i've gotta wait almost a year before they're relesed in the UK ;| (why the US version can't be released in the UK aswell is beyond me, as they're identical)

>Feelings< July 9th, 2009 6:33 AM

I don't know if they will destroy the original feel or not until I play through the game. Then I'll decide whether it did destroy or not.

MLU July 9th, 2009 6:34 AM

Well it's on the DS, so many good graphics. :P

dotKarma July 9th, 2009 6:51 AM

We'll have to see. I mean, they aren't the originals, so some of the magic will be lost automatically, but it's the next best thing, so hopefully it lives up to the name with the new things added in.

ReyRey-Pyon July 9th, 2009 7:09 AM

I don't think it'll destroy the magic. I'm overjoyed about the new games!
I can't see anything that would ruin the originals, and if the game isn't good, it wont lessen my opinion on the originals. I'll be disappointed if it isn't what i expect it to be, but the original gs will always be the original.
Heart Gold and Soul Silver are new adventures, in a very familiar place. It'll have its own magic, as GS has it own magic.

derozio July 9th, 2009 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Love (Post 4836601)
I don't think it'll destroy the magic. I'm overjoyed about the new games!
I can't see anything that would ruin the originals, and if the game isn't good, it wont lessen my opinion on the originals. I'll be disappointed if it isn't what i expect it to be, but the original gs will always be the original.
Heart Gold and Soul Silver are new adventures, in a very familiar place. It'll have its own magic, as GS has it own magic.

I completely agree with you there buddy. Those two are totally different and won't affect each other. I have not seen anything bad or dissapointing in HG/SS untill now and I bet won't see anything in the future too! HG/SS will be a heck of remakes. BTW even though they dissapoint us(I actually don't think that this will happen!) they won't take away the gen II's magic, will they?

xxChazxx July 9th, 2009 8:23 AM

I don't think anything will be destroyed, but improved instead.

I know i'm gonna get flamed for saying this, but I thought FR/LG were much better than R/G/B.

I have no doubt that these remakes will out sell and out rank the originals (even without Kris).

derozio July 9th, 2009 8:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxChazxx (Post 4836954)
I don't think anything will be destroyed, but improved instead.

I know i'm gonna get flamed for saying this, but I thought FR/LG were much better than R/G/B.

I have no doubt that these remakes will out sell and out rank the originals (even without Kris).

Green: Agreed
Blue: Somewhat agreed.
Red: Totally agreed!!! :D

Kazukii July 9th, 2009 8:31 AM

I think that elements of the remakes will spoil the originals but I think there will be many more positive things with the game than negative ;)

Pyrax July 9th, 2009 8:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4836210)
*shoots* :P
nah i mean fair do's if you didn't like them
personally, i loved them and i'm proepr excited for the remakes.
its just a shame i've gotta wait almost a year before they're relesed in the UK ;| (why the US version can't be released in the UK aswell is beyond me, as they're identical)

Because it would be unfair for the rest of europe.
I don't think it won't destroy the magic for me considering that I basicly never played G/S/C.

xxChazxx July 9th, 2009 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyrax (Post 4837014)
Because it would be unfair for the rest of europe.
I don't think it won't destroy the magic for me considering that I basicly never played G/S/C.

By that logic, a worldwide release would be the only fair option.

I wish that this was a worldwide release.

Ryanniny July 9th, 2009 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxChazxx (Post 4837090)
By that logic, a worldwide release would be the only fair option.

I wish that this was a worldwide release.

aye, why should america get it before the UK/Europe

and it might be unfair if the UK got the games before the rest of europe, but isnt it a bit unfair that we have to wait an extra 2 or 3 months for the games to be translated into european languages, when the English ones don't differ AT ALL from the american release ;|
this aside though, i have a feeling these will be the best games yet
(what i don't get though, is how they've managed to implement so many new features on HG/SS but they couldn't implement them on platinum?! its only like a year gap... if that)

xxChazxx July 9th, 2009 9:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4837194)
aye, why should america get it before the UK/Europe

and it might be unfair if the UK got the games before the rest of europe, but isnt it a bit unfair that we have to wait an extra 2 or 3 months for the games to be translated into european languages, when the English ones don't differ AT ALL from the american release ;|
this aside though, i have a feeling these will be the best games yet
(what i don't get though, is how they've managed to implement so many new features on HG/SS but they couldn't implement them on platinum?! its only like a year gap... if that)

Well, because we're better?

jk jk.

I think they were holding the features back for the remakes because they wouldn't seem as impressive if they didn't. Also, they have a lot more freedom with this than they did with Platinum. No one's seen this on the DS, but everyone's seen Sinnoh.

Ecks-Dee July 12th, 2009 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanniny (Post 4836210)
*shoots* :P
nah i mean fair do's if you didn't like them
personally, i loved them and i'm proepr excited for the remakes.
its just a shame i've gotta wait almost a year before they're relesed in the UK ;| (why the US version can't be released in the UK aswell is beyond me, as they're identical)

Hehe, yeah. It's so annoying that the UK waits longer. Their excuse is that they have to make the different languages for the rest of Europe, but Britian has to wait because of that?? The only changes they would make would be things like changing 'mom' to 'mum' XD

derozio July 12th, 2009 2:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecks-Dee (Post 4848206)
The only changes they would make would be things like changing 'mom' to 'mum' XD

Wow! That's certainly a VERY big change! lol XD

On topic: I bet these games will be the best ever! They have so many great additions that I have to say they will be the BEST!

Finnel July 12th, 2009 4:52 AM

Personally, I didn't see any magic in G/S/C in the first place. I liked them, but they weren't particularly good. Imo, Kanto ruined all the potential G/S/C had, and it saddens me that they seem to be putting it into the remakes as well.

I'm neutral, I guess.

Sakura Rain July 12th, 2009 9:44 AM

If they were to mess up these games, Game Freak would be swamped by angry teenagers (and adults). So, as long as GF doesn't screw up and do something stupid, I don't think that the remakes will take away the magic of the originals. Granted, the magic won't be the same, it'll be better. HG/SS FTW

kkaitlinn94 July 12th, 2009 9:48 AM

I'm glad they're remaking the Johto games. Johto was my favorite region in the tv show and I thought it had the best pokemon. And I never really got to play Gold or Silver because I bought my games used and they won't save.

Mumei July 12th, 2009 11:52 AM

If I view them as new games that just happen to be set in Johto, they sound like the best thing to ever happen in the history of the world.

If I view them as remakes, the nostalgia factor is kinda killed. I still think they'll be fun though.

silvanarrow July 12th, 2009 12:02 PM

I have no worries or reservations about these remakes. Silver was my first Pokemon game, so there's a certain kind of magic there that the remake can't re-create. However, I think SoulSilver will (for me at least) bring a whole new kind of magic that mixes the nostalgia of the originals with the excitement of the improved graphics and new features. I definitely can't wait to play it!

Leyt July 12th, 2009 12:50 PM

It's been far too long since playing Gold and Silver for me to remember any "magic" I felt all those years ago. Because of this, I'm simply excited for the remakes and am not worrying about too many details.

Wings Don't Cry July 12th, 2009 1:57 PM

I can't really say anything since I haven't played it yet, but I don't think it will destroy, Fire Red and Leaf Green were definitely fails IMO but it wasn't so fail that it ruined R/B/G, besides HG/SS is looking pretty good IMO

Samme! July 12th, 2009 2:01 PM

BEST! nuff said..... :) :)



(well, i hope)

Ellie July 12th, 2009 2:02 PM

I doubt it. FrLg didn't "destroy the magic" of RBY to me, in fact, all of the addons and stuff were very nice and made me appreciate the game even more. So I'm betting that HgSs will do the same for GSC. Plus, in my opinion, it'd take a lot to kill the magic of GSC unless they decided not to go back to Johto or something drastic like that, haha :p

TheCrazyGamer July 12th, 2009 4:37 PM

I haven't played silver so i don't have any nostalgia, but I can't wait for this one, simply because it's Gold and Silver. a good idea would be after you defeat Red ( I've seen the battle), you can have one final battle where Red and Blue team up in a double battle. Your rival would be your teammate.

Sweet Smoochum July 13th, 2009 11:55 AM

These will be my favorite Pokemon games ever. I just know it. Johto had the best plot ideas, and the best rival ever. With all these new additions, including any Pokemon following you, this game IMO is the best one yet.

Rokusasu July 13th, 2009 12:42 PM

These are gonna be just as magical, if not more. For me, none of the other games have been able to do what G/S/C accomplished all those years ago, so in my opinion, these will be the best we've ever seen.

Randomizer July 13th, 2009 9:57 PM

I'm quite excited to see an update to such classic games. And hopefully they'll boost the levels enough to give us a challenge this play through. Specifically the level's of pokemon in Kanto.

Foxnordic July 15th, 2009 6:44 PM

I've been waiting for ever for the 2nd generations to be remade! I loved silver version but i wanna get my hands on pokemon heart gold. With improved graphics and next gen moves. I'm really excited for the game to come out and I'm not worried that it'll ruin Gold and Silver's magic!

GodofPH July 15th, 2009 6:53 PM

I've always considered Gold and Silver to be the perfect video game sequels: They improved upon the previous works in every possible way, yet still offered a new experience with magic and thrills of its own. Personally, I'm excited to revisit Johto once again and relive the great experience I had those years ago.

And to anyone who is worried about the magic being ruined, the old gameboy cartridges aren't going to change...

Ash&pikachuarethebest July 19th, 2009 12:26 PM

I don't think so I mean, I am hoping for them to give us the VS Seeker in the remakes because I hated not being able to train your Pokemon up with old trainers in the original because if your team couldn't beat the elite four then you had to train all your Pokemon on wild Pokemon which made it so frustrating. So thats why I am looking forward to the games. Who else agrees with me on the whole VS Seeker topic?

Echoing Song July 19th, 2009 1:08 PM

The "magic" won't be ruined... at least not for me ^^;

giancarloparimango11 July 19th, 2009 1:46 PM

Yes!
 
These Will Be The Best Pokemon Games Ever!

xxxLatiasxxx July 19th, 2009 3:46 PM

I don't think they’ll destroy the games original magic I think they’ll be better than the originals.

シーツー July 19th, 2009 4:23 PM

At least the remakes can't become as bad as DPP, that's also why they can't become the worst Pokémon games ever.
In fact, I'm looking forward to the new games but still, they wont give me the same feeling G/S gave to me. As with Red/Blue, I will like G/S better than their remakes since they are the originals and I just LOVE the old graphics. Those DS graphics look a bit odd to me...
And I also hope that they wont add many Pokémon from R/S and D/P or wont add any of them at all...


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