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RockmanEXE July 10th, 2009 12:29 PM

I highly doubt HG/SS will include a "Pal Park."

It will probably have something better than that.

e4darthteej July 19th, 2009 11:25 AM

So...Groundon and Kyogre.
 
In all of the excitement it appears that we've completely forgotten about them. But they are one of the only events that we know almost nothing about. What purpose do they have in the story, if at all? How will getting both of them get you Rayquaza? There are a lot of unanswered questions, and I no one's been asking about them.

My personal theory is that they will have a sub-plot dedicated to them in the Sevill Islands. Each game will have version exclusive landscapes based on the massive flood or drought happening there. Soulsilver will have vast rocky land routes, and the islands will become mountains. Heartgold will have a landscape like in Wind Waker, with huge quantities of water,and small islands with small little dungeons on them. Rayqaza will be located in Navel Rock. At first there will be a stone door with the two orbs on it, and when you bring Groundon and Kyogre it will open up.

Alxprit July 19th, 2009 1:03 PM

It's Groudon.

You're right, though, what little we know about them! I was too hoping that they'd reinclude the Sevii Islands, but I don't think there's a huge chance of that happening.

Echoing Song July 19th, 2009 1:05 PM

I think you have it backwards... Isn't Kyogre in Heart Gold and Groudon in Soul Silver?

Interesting theory though... the Sevii Islands were in FR/LG... and we do go to Kanto in HG/SS...

xxChazxx July 19th, 2009 1:40 PM

Seeing as how it is a sequel to FR/LG, I believe the Sevii Islands will be included. or at least their Johto couterparts (whatever they could be).

Greene1516 July 19th, 2009 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Echoing-Echoes (Post 4874622)
I think you have it backwards... Isn't Kyogre in Heart Gold and Groudon in Soul Silver?

Interesting theory though... the Sevii Islands were in FR/LG... and we do go to Kanto in HG/SS...

Correct. .

Ayselipera July 19th, 2009 1:49 PM

I agree that the Sevii islands could possibly appear in HG/SS, but I don't know about the whole Navel rock and orbs.

bobandbill July 19th, 2009 7:49 PM

Merged topic with a pre-existing one on the two RSE legendaries.

Momoko July 20th, 2009 3:02 AM

Haha im somewhat excited, but its nothin super special, really. Im glad that i will be able to capture Groundon in Soul Silver, though ;D
Haha i wonder what level they will be at?

:3 July 20th, 2009 9:02 PM

I love how the Kyogre and Groudon and Rayquaza are just shadows.

Like we're not supposed to know what Pokemon those are :pp

Haza July 21st, 2009 5:50 PM

I dont think they will be traveling.

mew² July 21st, 2009 6:53 PM

I've seen this somewhere on the forums :s
Anyways, rumor has it catching Rayquaza will be like catching Regigigas. You will need Kyogre and Groudon to awaken it.
But I am sure you all knew this via picture right?

Luap25 August 11th, 2009 4:59 PM

Why? (Hoenn Legendaries)
 
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So we all know that Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza are in HG/SS. I just want to know why they put Kyogre in Heart Gold and Groudon in Soul Silver, since Kyogre is in sapphire, the 'secondary' game in Generation III (You say "Ruby and Sapphire", not "Sapphire and Ruby"), and now it's in Heart Gold, the 'primary' game of the Gen. IV remakes, and vice-versa for Groudon being in Soul Silver.

In the screenshots below, you can see that Kyogre is placed on a platform with glowing red patterns (they also look slightly gold, probably to match "Heart Gold"), and Groudon is standing on a platform with blue patterns (same as before, they look a little silver to match "Soul Silver"). Why is this? It seems like Groudon/Kyogre should be standing on their respective colors, reddish gold for Groudon and blueish silver for Kyogre, since Rayquaza is standing on a green pattern. This would mean Groudon in Heart Gold and Kyogre in Soul Silver.

I don't know, it just seems to make a lot more since to me is they put Groudon in HG and Kyogre in SS. Also, this question may have been asked before, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

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Greene1516 August 11th, 2009 5:01 PM

Well if you think back, Kyogre was possessed by the Red Orb and Groudon by the Blue Orb. So it fits better. Either way, it doesn't really matter.

Sydian August 11th, 2009 5:08 PM

It's such a minor thing, really. I don't even know what to say...just to spice it up? Maybe they assumed those who were Ruby goers would chase HeartGold and vice verse with Sapphire/SoulSilver.

Finnel August 11th, 2009 5:08 PM

Kyogre has red patterns on its body, the ground it's on has red patterns. Groudon... Doesn't have blue patterns, but it fits. Also the Orbs, yeah.

Why Kyogre is in HG and Groudon in SS... Well, why not? We wouldn't know anyway.

Luap25 August 11th, 2009 5:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 4973263)
Well if you think back, Kyogre was possessed by the Red Orb and Groudon by the Blue Orb. So it fits better. Either way, it doesn't really matter.

Well I guess that explains the colors. Also, I just remembered that Kyogre does have red patterns on its body, so it makes since for it to be on a red platform. But still I find it kind of odd that the mascot of the secondary game of Gen. III is in the primary game of the remakes...

EDIT: wow, you guys took the words out of my mouth XD I didn't realize that there were two more posts before i posted my response. I guess you're right, SilverSmeargleSplatter, it's probably just to spice it up.
It does make me angry though that I always got the primary game, except for in Gen. III, when for some reason, I got Sapphire. Arrgh! Now I won't be able to have Groudon, since I'm getting Heart Gold (because I originally had Gold)! I guess there's always trading....

MiniEggs August 11th, 2009 5:11 PM

To balance out the somethingky molecular module class type B. :S

thegeneticway August 11th, 2009 5:15 PM

It really doesn't matter.

Since both games have the same Johto Legendaries, if you really wanted Kyogre, you would go for HG and vice cersa for SS

But I do get what you are saying

ShinyMeganium August 11th, 2009 5:25 PM

It makes sense blah.
Ho-oh is Fire
Lugia is a wannabe water when you catch it (Hydro Pump)

And:
Groudon is a wannabe Fire with his Fire attacks
Kyogre is water.

Then: one game will have Fire&water, one game will have (wannabes)water&fire.
Yeah, weird explanation, and some people without any sense of humor would kill meh o:

MiniEggs August 11th, 2009 5:27 PM

is that really necessary? does it matter. If you want Kyogre- get Heart Gold. If you want Groundon- get Soul Silver. Done.

Luap25 August 11th, 2009 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShinyMeganium (Post 4973343)
It makes sense blah.
Ho-oh is Fire
Lugia is a wannabe water when you catch it (Hydro Pump)

And:
Groudon is a wannabe Fire with his Fire attacks
Kyogre is water.

Then: one game will have Fire&water, one game will have (wannabes)water&fire.
Yeah, weird explanation, and some people without any sense of humor would kill meh o:

That is actually a pretty good explanation XD. It wouldn't make sense to have two water legends in one game (or one water and one wannabe water haha) or two fires.

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Originally Posted by MiniEggs (Post 4973357)
is that really necessary? does it matter. If you want Kyogre- get Heart Gold. If you want Groundon- get Soul Silver. Done.

I'm not sure now, it's not that big a deal, I'll probably still get Heart Gold, but I may get Soul Silver just for Groudon.

MiniEggs August 11th, 2009 5:31 PM

Soul silver all the way. Obviously

Luap25 August 11th, 2009 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEggs (Post 4973382)
Soul silver all the way. Obviously

Nice persuading skills xD. I am actually leaning towards getting Soul Silver now, though.

ShinyMeganium August 11th, 2009 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Luap25 (Post 4973367)
That is actually a pretty good explanation XD. It wouldn't make sense to have two water legends in one game (or one water and one wannabe water haha) or two fires.



I'm not sure now, it's not that big a deal, I'll probably still get Heart Gold, but I may get Soul Silver just for Groudon.

Yeah, thanks lol. Though I forgot one thing: both HG and SS will have Ho-oh&Lugia. Yet it doesn't ruin my explanation, because Groudon/Kyogre are still the "opposites" of the game's mascot.


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