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Mitchman July 8th, 2009 10:54 AM

Hoenn more plausible to happen?
 
IMPORTANT: Note that this info is MERELY RUMOUR-FUELED - not confirmed, and definitely not from an official source.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/44116/t1390778-am-not-liable-for-this-claim-potentially-tremendous-game-spoilers-of-an-unspeakable-kind/
Yes I went as far as going to neoseeker. I know I know what the hell but hold up. What if they will put it in to reboot the series? As more and more people claim it to be in I don't see why not. I mean we have a couple of days to CoroCoro so I don't think there is any harm till then to see if it will be in or not right?

©ereal Killer July 8th, 2009 11:02 AM

O.O

Three regions in one game?? *faints*

This is just to awesome...

Vyro July 8th, 2009 11:12 AM

Maybe it replaces kanto...

JoltIce July 8th, 2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkly_the_flygon (Post 4832889)
Maybe it replaces kanto...


Come on, do you really think Game Freak would crush all there fans hearts by replacing Kanto with Hoenn?

Vyro July 8th, 2009 11:17 AM

yes. just look at D/P if that wasn't crushing, what is?

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 11:19 AM

Kanto is in we can assure that we have enough proof.

JoltIce July 8th, 2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkly_the_flygon (Post 4832914)
yes. just look at D/P if that wasn't crushing, what is?


At least Sinnoh is better than Hoenn -_- P.S. If you disagree with me don't flame me.

©ereal Killer July 8th, 2009 11:27 AM

Lol, cut it out you guys!

Kanto is definitely in... thats fo sho...
Might as well add sinnoh too if their adding hoenn...
Whoa, just imagine... the complete pokemon universe in one game...

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 11:28 AM

Sinnoh is a current generatyion region. Right now its speculation might not be in you see.

Vyro July 8th, 2009 11:30 AM

I actually liked hoenn better than sinnoh.

sinnoh was bland, linear and uncreative. at least there were things to do and new areas to find(regis etc.) in hoenn

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 11:31 AM

That's not the case in point dark flygon. Its wethere Hoenn will be in or not and if these sources could be telling the truth. Okay look:
Quote:

8月号の特集は...
In the August Edition's Special Section (on HG/SS)

ハートゴルド&ソウルシルバー完全スクープ!!
A Complete HeartGold and Soul Silver Scoop!!

ジョウト地方の伝説をあますことなく、徹底解説するぞ!!
The Johto Legend, we're going to explain it all thoroughly!!

あの伝説のポケモン秘密情報を続々とキャッチ。
Catching the secret information on those Legendary Pokemon one after the other.

ルギア。。。ホウオウ。。。そして。。。!?
Lugia...Ho-oh...And...!?

7月15日のコロコロ8月号を待て!!
Wait for CoroCoro's August Edition on July 15th!!

We know we're getting the full details of Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquazza from last months issue so presumably thats what their talking about, but maybe the 3 dogs will also feature.
http://serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=9988509&postcount=3669
This could back up the theory a lot no? The secret info eh. Could be hoenn could be nothing important.

Ayselipera July 8th, 2009 11:35 AM

I don't think Hoenn will be in HG/SS... but if it is round of applause for GameFreak.

seeker July 8th, 2009 11:39 AM

I've heard all the rumours andspeculation about this. But i'm kind of thinking it won't be included.
These are my reasons. I will keep them beyoned ones like "Oh but gamefreak said its a remake, they wont have hoenn it would be too much" etc.
Even though i would love hoenn to be in the game i think it wouldn't be because Pokemon Platinum was the maximum size for a NDS game possible at 128mb. There is a lot of space in Platinum on the rom but not enough for 3 regions. I don't think there would be enough space for it all. Then again i am not completely sure on on NDS capeabilities. I also think Hoenn won't be included because there isn't a great need for it in a sense because Hoenn pokemon are wildly available thanks to Pal Park and R/S/E and FR/LG and i'm sure some will be available in Kanto in HG/SS. And my third point is that the levels would be too high after Johto and Kanto in Hoenn. Imagine doing another 8 gyms after the previous 16 etc. Then again i feel there maybe a possible Visit to Hoenn for Groudon/Kyogre or even Rayquaza.

If anyone can contradict me please feel free i'd like to know if you agree or disagree. But i would love to see a visit to Hoenn

XxDawnfanxX July 8th, 2009 11:40 AM

I doubt they add Hoenn into THIS game, not saying they couldn't be making another game featuring the Hoenn region. I personally hope not, that region never really appealed to me and I didn't like any of their pokemon besides Blaziken. I think this would be too big of a thing to add to the remakes of the games. If anything, they should add the orange islands or add the water tournament on the Whirl Islands. That would be pretty awesome.

Greene1516 July 8th, 2009 11:41 AM

It was already confirmed that Hoenn is not in the new games s why do people still make these pointless threads??? There is not enough capacity on one cartridge even for that much data, so even if they wanted to do it they couldn't.

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 11:42 AM

Actually Gavz it seems you posted before I provided the translation. And the max goes up to 256MB if needed. HGSS if it has lesser content then platinum could be at a smaller size and then with Hoenn fill it up.

seeker July 8th, 2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4833011)
Actually Gavz it seems you posted before I provided the translation. And the max goes up to 256MB if needed. HGSS if it has lesser content then platinum could be at a smaller size and then with Hoenn fill it up.

Ya you're right i didn't but i still think there wouldn't be enough space to nother region,Wifi,Mt.Silver and just so much more.
But thanks for lettin me know about the increase.
I guess It would be fairly obvious that the increase would be for the second region but theres definately not enough space for 3 regions. Though i think a visit may be a little more possible.

Ryanniny July 8th, 2009 11:52 AM

hang on, wheres the proof?
i'm really confused & i'm probably just missing the proof but
isnt this just someone on neoseeker going "hoenn will be included"? :|

Calvo819 July 8th, 2009 11:54 AM

why wouldnt they include 3+ regions? they included 2 Regions in 1 game. DS cartridges are waay better than the old gameboy ones. they should be able to include the regions, but not very likely, since Sinnoh is in the same generation

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 11:55 AM

Yes but he isn't the only one with playasia having it as well and also CoroCoro said that info will come for the weather trio. I mean its plausible but nothing like proof.

ckn July 8th, 2009 11:55 AM

i dont belive the whole heonn region will be in it. although there could be a part of heonn or one or two major areas or cities we can reach for the legendary pokes like groudon, kyogre, and rayquaza (possibillity of sky pillar and sootpoils maybe?) but also... what about the pokemon contest??? maybe they'll hold some special major contest (if they have them) and decided to add a city or two for that... just maybe...

Ryanniny July 8th, 2009 11:59 AM

i can't see them just adding one or two towns
don't get me wrong, i'd love hoenn to be in it, as i preffered that region to sinnoh, but yno, im just not getting my hopes up cos we have no solid proof yet :S

Kyledove July 8th, 2009 12:38 PM

How is hoenn gonna be in HG/SS? Gamefreak already know this game will sell like mad just cos its a gsc remake, they dont need to put hoenn in it. They'd save it til later and then remake rse..

That said, we haven't even see Kanto yet and people are already shouting 3 regions..wow...

bobandbill July 8th, 2009 12:49 PM

Yeah... it seems to me this is all rumour-fuelled. =/ So far, Kanto has had the Johto map revealed and all show parts that were in Kanto within the map, and a route leading to Viridian as well. (That, and it was in GSC as well and all). For Hoenn... there's the Playasia site - which is edited by customers, so it's nowhere near an official source - and... random speculation.

It may happen, but I wouldn't get excited at this point as there's been rather little on it. Just people lots of people say so doesn't mean it'll have to happen. =/

seeker July 8th, 2009 12:58 PM

We asked for a G/S/C remake with Kanto & Johto region and i feel that that is exactly what we will get in this sense. I don't feel that there will be Hoenn. I'm echoing my own post but i think we're getting plenty as it is! As well as the remake we have been asking for for years! We're also getting a new area (which i think will be where mewtwo will be. If you've seen the movie mewtwo returns then you may have noticed the extra part of johto where mewtwo was living) We're getting Kyogre,Groudon,Rayquaza,Jirachi & NE pichu! As well as the arceus event and The choice of the 3 dragons. I feel we are getting enough to fill the full rom. Not to mention the added pokemon folowing you.

aipom man July 8th, 2009 1:12 PM

omg if it had all 3 regions in hg ss after i beat the game MY LIFE WOULD BE FRIGGIN COMPLETE then again i guess the 5th gen with an aipom baby form would make my life complete

ReyRey-Pyon July 8th, 2009 1:14 PM

I doubt it, It sounds more like a rumor, or misunderstanding because of the fact that the hoenn trio will be obtainable in the game
If is IS in game, it'll be absolutly awesome
they can put it in game, but i doubts it

Black Ice July 8th, 2009 1:16 PM

I think adding a small portion of Hoenn (like, a new city or two) with Gyms and everything a normal town would have would get everybody anticipating a remake of 3rd Gen. I'm against them adding the whole thing though.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 1:20 PM

I read over that neoseeker thread twice, but there's nothing in there that convinces me at all that Hoenn is in the games =/

All it is is some guy saying that some other guy he knows who may or may not work for Nintendo hinted at the fact that Hoenn is in HGSS.

Sorry guys, but that sounds like a pure rumor to me... and for the record, info on play-asia means nothing.

Mr.Silver July 8th, 2009 1:21 PM

guys you realise that nowadays you can get micro sd cards with 8 gb.Microchps are getting smaller and smaller but are able to hold alot of data so it is possible

Eggie Poo Poo July 8th, 2009 1:33 PM

Hoenn better not be, I hated 3rd gen. If Gamefreak adds in Hoenn either in place of Kanto, or in addition to it, I will use my Heart Gold cartridge as toilet paper.

Greene1516 July 8th, 2009 1:36 PM

Don't worry Eggie Poo, it's not in, just some people like to be "different"

Sweet Smoochum July 8th, 2009 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 4833507)
Hoenn better not be, I hated 3rd gen. If Gamefreak adds in Hoenn either in place of Kanto, or in addition to it, I will use my Heart Gold cartridge as toilet paper.

LMAO!!! !HAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!

I'd give you more rep but I have to wait 24 hours to do so. I don't think this rumor is true. Why must they ruin this beautiful game with Hoenn? Why? Nintendo? Why? What is your thought process?!!! Seriously! jk jk I <3 Nintendo & Pokemon.

(I don't like Hoenn, and I don't want it in this game.) Just Kanto and Johto like old times.

Eggie Poo Poo July 8th, 2009 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4833555)
Why? Nintendo? Why? What is your thought process?!!! Seriously! jk jk I <3 Nintendo & Pokemon.

Didn't I use that line once? LINE STEALER xD

Sweet Smoochum July 8th, 2009 1:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 4833572)
Didn't I use that line once? LINE STEALER xD

Lol You said another word before "thought process" though. :cer_laugh: I just don't want to see Hoenn in this game. Johto is my favorite region, and I don't want Hoenn to overshadow this region. Hopefully, this Hoenn rumor is a fake. If it's not, it's not that big a deal.

Foxnordic July 8th, 2009 2:04 PM

i didn't like sinnoh or hoenn that much, but i say that sinnoh is the worse region so far....

Miss Soupy July 8th, 2009 2:06 PM

Yeah, I'm going to assume it's merely a rumor until a reliable source is cited. It's better to be pleasantly surprised than be hyped just to have your hopes shot down, imo.

But I'm not shooting down the possibility it may be in the game. I'm just skeptical about the whole thing. >_<

Melodyfree July 8th, 2009 2:24 PM

I wouldn't be so quick to shoot down the idea, but that's probably my Hoenn bias speaking xD
Even so, I highly doubt the Hoenn thing is anything more than a little rumor that's gotten way out of hand. But if it were to be in, I would squeal happily.

billi1000 July 8th, 2009 2:31 PM

Hoenn maybe in? naa :P, i think its just a rumor, kanto is already confirmed to be in since if it werent the magnet train will be pointless, the path to the right of the map will also be pointless although part of the route from kanto appears in it, and it cant lead to hoenn since hoenn is an island so it cant be connected by an onland path to any other region, so i dont think it will replace kanto as well, and if it were in the game, why not, its another new challege for us :)

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ July 8th, 2009 2:36 PM

I'm not going to get my hopes up because it sounds like a rumor to me


:t354:TG

Vyro July 8th, 2009 2:39 PM

But... if it was true, it would be cool!

TheAliveTrain July 8th, 2009 5:04 PM

As if sales would decrease if Hoenn is added...
I like the idea of having also Hoenn there.
I choose Kanto instead of Hoenn because of it was the original region in there so. Anyway, if they add all of them, nice.

manhattan July 8th, 2009 5:21 PM

And quoting a member of NeoSeeker:

Quote:

*cums in pants*


You can't get any better. :D

GameplayerHGSS July 8th, 2009 5:26 PM

Playasia knows the future!!
 
Go to Playasia and look up Pokemon Heart Gold and it'll say in the description dat you'll have the chance to catch one of Hoenn's "Titans" and that there r 2 new characters in Hoenn, one is a gym leader who uses dark types.... just go there you'll see !!!

WindBlows July 8th, 2009 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GameplayerHGSS (Post 4834442)
Go to Playasia and look up Pokemon Heart Gold and it'll say in the description dat you'll have the chance to catch one of Hoenn's "Titans" and that there r 2 new characters in Hoenn, one is a gym leader who uses dark types.... just go there you'll see !!!

http://randazza.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/facepalm.jpg
It has been confirmed that everyone can edit that description.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAliveTrain (Post 4834378)
As if sales would decrease if Hoenn is added...
I like the idea of having also Hoenn there.
I choose Kanto instead of Hoenn because of it was the original region in there so. Anyway, if they add all of them, nice.

No one said sales on HGSS would decrease if Hoenn was added to HGSS. Basically, from a business standpoint, saving Hoenn to remake for a future game makes more sense, as it would boost the sales of that game.

Magmarashi July 8th, 2009 5:45 PM

when does the next corocoro issue get released?

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4833555)
LMAO!!! !HAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!

I'd give you more rep but I have to wait 24 hours to do so. I don't think this rumor is true. Why must they ruin this beautiful game with Hoenn? Why? Nintendo? Why? What is your thought process?!!! Seriously! jk jk I <3 Nintendo & Pokemon.

(I don't like Hoenn, and I don't want it in this game.) Just Kanto and Johto like old times.

Okay I know I've replied to about 438957934 of your posts lately saying I agree, but I REALLY agree with you here!!! Please no Hoenn XD

Åzurε July 8th, 2009 6:07 PM

I liked the areas in Hoenn, to be honest, but it was enough.

On another note, I don't get why everyone's all "Kyo and 'don are in the game, so Hoenn must be too!"
You could just have some sort of cameo-type thing like they did on Ranger, or like this game with Arceus, or Emerald with Mew (and Ho-Oh and Lugia), or Platinum with the 3 birds, etc.
Not hard, general public. ;)

TheAliveTrain July 8th, 2009 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allure XI (Post 4834509)
No one said sales on HGSS would decrease if Hoenn was added to HGSS. Basically, from a business standpoint, saving Hoenn to remake for a future game makes more sense, as it would boost the sales of that game.

Making an only Hoenn remake would yes decrease sales (I meant sellings, anyway not good with this kind of vocabulary). What I said was an expression, I know anyone literally said that sales would decrease.


From what I've seen, many people hate Hoenn, so they wouldn't have profit on having a 3rd gen remake. Why not including in the Gold/Silver remake?
Mostly, the ones who like Hoenn, have never played Gold/Silver (they played Gen1 games through remakes).
So I think those are great reasons to put in there Hoenn, although I'm not thinking this is gonna happen.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mOOG (Post 4834569)
On another note, I don't get why everyone's all "Kyo and 'don are in the game, so Hoenn must be too!"
You could just have some sort of cameo-type thing like they did on Ranger, or like this game with Arceus, or Emerald with Mew (and Ho-Oh and Lugia), or Platinum with the 3 birds, etc.
Not hard, general public. ;)

Another point that I agree with. They had the legendary dogs in FRLG, they could easily do the same again with a cameo appearance of Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Groudon in either the Johto or Kanto regions in HGSS. This seems SO much more likely than the addition of Hoenn.

WindBlows July 8th, 2009 6:22 PM

Well, it would be cool if Hoenn is in this game cause the events would be different from the one in Ruby and Sapphire. Because GSC and DP happened almost at the same time. So, different story line.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAliveTrain (Post 4834585)
Making an only Hoenn remake would yes decrease sales (I meant sellings, anyway not good with this kind of vocabulary). What I said was an expression, I know anyone literally said that sales would decrease.


From what I've seen, many people hate Hoenn, so they wouldn't have profit on having a 3rd gen remake. Why not including in the Gold/Silver remake?
Mostly, the ones who like Hoenn, have never played Gold/Silver (they played Gen1 games through remakes).
So I think those are great reasons to put in there Hoenn, although I'm not thinking this is gonna happen.

Even though a Hoenn-only remake would be far in the future, they would most certainly make a profit. Ruby and Sapphire were the top-selling games on Game Boy Advance with 13 million sales. Add on 6 million sales from Emerald, and those 19 million sales are approximately equal to the total sales of Gold Silver Crystal (also ~19 million).

So Nintendo/GF absolutely does not have to worry about a Hoenn remake not selling :)

Samme! July 8th, 2009 6:56 PM

Wait, is this officially confirmed? I kinda hope its not in the games.... it'd be too much

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samme426 (Post 4834761)
Wait, is this officially confirmed? I kinda hope its not in the games.... it'd be too much

Definitely not officially confirmed, so no worries. I hope it's not in HGSS either -- I agree, it'd be too much.

Samme! July 8th, 2009 7:01 PM

Ok good! waayyyyy toooo muucchhhh....

Gizamimi Pichu July 8th, 2009 7:04 PM

If this is true, it makes me quite happy, but then again, I'm one of the few Hoenn fans. ^_^;

derozio July 8th, 2009 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkly_the_flygon (Post 4832914)
yes. just look at D/P if that wasn't crushing, what is?

D/P wasn't crushing! And if hoenn can also be in HGSS then its no problem. It will be very good in fact. Do you think that all of these three regions with their full potential can be put in a game that has a max of 256 mb limit? I am not too sure about the space that will be taken if all the three regions will be there.HGSS has already used a lot of space for the (fantastic!) new features. So I think as far as space goes hoenn won't be in.

GymLeaderLance99 July 8th, 2009 9:36 PM

As much as I like Hoenn (my third-favorite behind #1 Johto and #2 Kanto), it being put into HG/SS seems like it won't happen. Not only are Johto and Kanto involved, as well as the Battle Tower and whatever new areas are in that cloudy part of Route 40 and to the northwest of Cianwood in the Sugimori Johto map, but having Hoenn would take up a lot of space, wouldn't it? Assuming Kanto's getting the full deal this time around compared to GSC!Kanto, of course. Or, if it really is in, maybe the battle between Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza left most of Hoenn underwater or in a desert?

Either way, until there's confirmation about this, I'm not getting hopes up. It'd be cool to have Hoenn in these games, but seeing as how they're GSC remakes (with the new area additions here and there), Hoenn would be Cool Yet Unnecessary.

Myoko-chan July 8th, 2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GavZ (Post 4833385)
We asked for a G/S/C remake with Kanto & Johto region and i feel that that is exactly what we will get in this sense. I don't feel that there will be Hoenn. I'm echoing my own post but i think we're getting plenty as it is! As well as the remake we have been asking for for years! We're also getting a new area (which i think will be where mewtwo will be. If you've seen the movie mewtwo returns then you may have noticed the extra part of johto where mewtwo was living) We're getting Kyogre,Groudon,Rayquaza,Jirachi & NE pichu! As well as the arceus event and The choice of the 3 dragons. I feel we are getting enough to fill the full rom. Not to mention the added pokemon folowing you.

FR/LG had plenty of extra post-game areas/events, and the rom size wasn't that impressive.
Anime is non-canon to video games btw.

Haza July 8th, 2009 10:04 PM

Im hoping for a little taste of Hoenn but not if it will distract attention from Kanto.

derozio July 8th, 2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 4835284)
FR/LG had plenty of extra post-game areas/events, and the rom size wasn't that impressive.

The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 10:22 PM

Well this month's CoroCoro will reveal the secret of the weather trio that is a given but what is it is the question. So yeah its Hoenn or something else.

Myoko-chan July 8th, 2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusher 1 (Post 4835342)
The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!

I meant compared to other GBA roms, it wasn't that impressive. -_-
I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.

derozio July 8th, 2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 4835393)
I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.

I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)

Satoshi Ookami July 8th, 2009 11:25 PM

Oh man if yes then the authors would gain huge credit!
But how in the hack are they wanna add 3rd region... when the rom is filled with huge amount of new events?

Ging July 8th, 2009 11:34 PM

No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

Hoenn should be in this game.



Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


DS-i anyone?

derozio July 8th, 2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ging (Post 4835558)
Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS)

Can you show some proof? Where did you got that? 2 GBS?!!

EDIT: Got the proof!

derozio July 9th, 2009 12:03 AM

Okay so now its proved that HGSS can contain Hoenn but it ultimately depends on Gamefreak and Nintendo to put it in.

Myoko-chan July 9th, 2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusher 1 (Post 4835434)
I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)

A 32mb GBA game automatically expands to 256mb when written on to a GBA flash cart.
You see it as 32 mb on the computer though. Well, that's what happened for me...I could be wrong...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ging (Post 4835558)
No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

Hoenn should be in this game.



Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


DS-i anyone?

*facepalm*
DS Flash carts use MicroSD cards for memory storage. Does it look like normal game catridges would allow you to freely put in MicroSD cards?! -_-
and if you're talking about DSi storage, how will they even distribute the game...?

Ging July 9th, 2009 12:14 AM

True... I was mistaken. :3 I could always go with the excuse that it's super late here!

>>



Anyway, you never know what they could do. I'm just hoping for Hoenn.

deka01 July 9th, 2009 1:14 AM

Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.

Myoko-chan July 9th, 2009 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deka01 (Post 4835796)
Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.

*facepalm*
Dragon Quest IX isn't even released yet.
(According to Kotaku, the "leaked" rom is malware and automatically bricks your DS.)

billi1000 July 9th, 2009 1:23 AM

A Hoenn remake might happen but nowhere near now, i thnik they will release a hoenn remake after introducing the 5th generation pokemon in a series of games like the 4th generation was introduced in DPPt, and then the fans would have missed hoenn, and it should be an aniversery thnig of some sort like wat happened on HG/SS. As well, since R/S/E are still compatible with the current ds games, then theres really no need if the sole purpose is to get the hoenn pokemon into newer (or older) generations, although many signs of moving away from depending on GBA games has been shown through the DS games with the events and cameo pokemon and the R/S/E legends are now possible to obtain via event, so it seems nintendo is moving away from depending of previous games for completing the pokedex. so a remake including the Hoenn region, if it were to happen, will appear after games introducing the 5th generation have been released.

pkmnhawk July 9th, 2009 1:25 AM

I really hope for a full universal game. Just think, all four regions in one game. Maybe even the possibility of four different championships to win. I believe the games should be longer than a 10 to 30 minute run though (Which is about my average time from starter to beating E4 and Champion), so we actually get our moneys worth from a good storyline and good game play.

And if you disagree with me, remember, Im stating my opinion.

derozio July 9th, 2009 2:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 4835885)
*headdesk*

Game size does not expand; what you seem to be mixing up is Megabits (Mb) and Mebibytes (MiB, or erroneously, MB).

The theoretical maximum size of a GBA game is 256 Megabits - 32 MiB. The Game Boy Advance development kits are designed to work around this limit as the programming pointer system can only address 256 Mb. On the other hand, the theoretical maximum size of a DS game is much much higher than 32 MiB. We've seen 256 MiB games, so if that's all we'll ever see, the maximum would probably be 2048 Megabits.

Getting back on topic, the hurdle with including Johto would be development issues, costs or time. It should be said that FireRed and LeafGreen use about 5-6 MIB of the 16 MiB available in its game cartridge - a ROM hacker could tell you that much more could be stuffed in. Platinum didn't use all of its available space, either.

That solved a lot of confusion! So you mean to say that a lot of additions can be made to the HGSS if all of the space of the NDS cartridge is used?

xxChazxx July 9th, 2009 2:46 AM

I am doubtful, yet I am also hopeful.

This would mean that DIVE would have to make a comeback.
(Assuming this information is correct)

derozio July 9th, 2009 2:52 AM

The more I think about it, the more I get doubtful on hoenn being in HG/SS. According to me: there have been only two remakes: FR/LG and HG/SS. They both are from 3rd and 4th gen respectively. FR/LG were remakes of the first Red/Green. They introduced some new features and some side-quests. Even sevii islands were added to make it a little longer. So as FR/LG didn't changed anything from the originals but only added new graphics, sound, some side quests and a little bit longer gameplay I think that even HG/SS will also do the same. HG/SS will have a revamped jhoto and kanto + Graphic and sound improvement + a little bit longer gameplay and some side quests. Thus I am assuming that hoenn won't be in from now on. I think that hoenn will be there maybe for 5th gen. I know that NDS cartridge has enough space for hoenn but its unlikely that it will be in.

Mitchman July 9th, 2009 3:06 AM

It is also possible if they want to have a complete reboot for gen 5.

ShinyBlaziken July 9th, 2009 3:08 AM

I don't think that Hoenn will be in the game.
I still remember Silver. When I came to Kanto my Pokemon were very strong. After beating all 8 Kanto Gym Leaders my Pokemon were unbetable! They were at very high levels!
And if Hoenn is in HG/SS then the Pokemon in the Hoenn Gyms would be at Lvl 100 o_0
And the Pokemon League in Hoenn? Which Level will the Pokemon have? Higher than 100??? :D

The reason why there are 2 regions in G/S/C is that Jotho doesn't have a Pokemon League. But Hoenn has one! So it won't be in the game.

GameplayerHGSS July 9th, 2009 3:16 AM

wow..really? sorry... i dindnt know that before about playasai... Well know i do so thanks! But who'd edit such a rumor on a major site like that?

billi1000 July 9th, 2009 3:21 AM

ya shinyblaziken u make a very strong point there, Johto always had Kanto on side of it since they had the same pokemon League, and Hoenn has its separate pokemon league so i dont think the game can be made that long... if youll have to go through all of hoenn and then its league, no i think it will happen, nintendo will save that for a nother game, if it were to be in the game, a small portion willmake alot more sense, to catch the legendary in and maybe some other sidequests, well we ll have to wait for next wednesday for corocoro to come out to find out...

s0nido July 9th, 2009 3:23 AM

No. Just NO. This IS a remake of GSC, and we all know that GSC had TWO regions only. So I do not believe for a second that Hoenn would make its comeback in Hg/Ss. Besides, it's too early for a remake. They'll probably include the Sevii Islands as an extension to the Johto region, since they shared many similarities with Johto, like wild Pokemon and music.

Ryanniny July 9th, 2009 4:13 AM

I'm not expecting Hoenn in the game,
but i wish everyone would stop mking the whole "ITS A REMAKE" point, because theres going to be new stuff
if you want a true remake, just re-play gold & silver on the GBC
theres obviously going to be new things, i personally think adding Hoenn would be sweet, however unlikely.
admitted yes, its not a remake of RSE, but its still gonna have the remake of GSC that everyone wants
so why complain about extra stuff?! you're just getting more for your money,

Dawn's Hat July 9th, 2009 4:20 AM

I bloody hope not. IMO, Hoenn was awful and if it was included, I wouldn't buy the games.

bobandbill July 9th, 2009 4:28 AM

Well, this thread is kinda going nowhere fast. No point having everyone post their apparent like/dislike for the Hoenn region here, and as stated before, all of this came from a website which can - and did - have its info edited by a customer/random person, and someone who makes the kinds of rumours which crop up with every major game and have, in my experiance, turned out to be fake. (After all, people who work for Nintendo and so forth are not allowed to tell people such info).

It's vaguely possible, but not given this 'info' at all, so am closing. It's only worth discussing if Coro Coro or something like that actually states it outright that it will happen.


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