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Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mOOG (Post 4834569)
On another note, I don't get why everyone's all "Kyo and 'don are in the game, so Hoenn must be too!"
You could just have some sort of cameo-type thing like they did on Ranger, or like this game with Arceus, or Emerald with Mew (and Ho-Oh and Lugia), or Platinum with the 3 birds, etc.
Not hard, general public. ;)

Another point that I agree with. They had the legendary dogs in FRLG, they could easily do the same again with a cameo appearance of Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Groudon in either the Johto or Kanto regions in HGSS. This seems SO much more likely than the addition of Hoenn.

WindBlows July 8th, 2009 6:22 PM

Well, it would be cool if Hoenn is in this game cause the events would be different from the one in Ruby and Sapphire. Because GSC and DP happened almost at the same time. So, different story line.

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAliveTrain (Post 4834585)
Making an only Hoenn remake would yes decrease sales (I meant sellings, anyway not good with this kind of vocabulary). What I said was an expression, I know anyone literally said that sales would decrease.


From what I've seen, many people hate Hoenn, so they wouldn't have profit on having a 3rd gen remake. Why not including in the Gold/Silver remake?
Mostly, the ones who like Hoenn, have never played Gold/Silver (they played Gen1 games through remakes).
So I think those are great reasons to put in there Hoenn, although I'm not thinking this is gonna happen.

Even though a Hoenn-only remake would be far in the future, they would most certainly make a profit. Ruby and Sapphire were the top-selling games on Game Boy Advance with 13 million sales. Add on 6 million sales from Emerald, and those 19 million sales are approximately equal to the total sales of Gold Silver Crystal (also ~19 million).

So Nintendo/GF absolutely does not have to worry about a Hoenn remake not selling :)

Samme! July 8th, 2009 6:56 PM

Wait, is this officially confirmed? I kinda hope its not in the games.... it'd be too much

Allure XI July 8th, 2009 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by samme426 (Post 4834761)
Wait, is this officially confirmed? I kinda hope its not in the games.... it'd be too much

Definitely not officially confirmed, so no worries. I hope it's not in HGSS either -- I agree, it'd be too much.

Samme! July 8th, 2009 7:01 PM

Ok good! waayyyyy toooo muucchhhh....

Gizamimi Pichu July 8th, 2009 7:04 PM

If this is true, it makes me quite happy, but then again, I'm one of the few Hoenn fans. ^_^;

derozio July 8th, 2009 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkly_the_flygon (Post 4832914)
yes. just look at D/P if that wasn't crushing, what is?

D/P wasn't crushing! And if hoenn can also be in HGSS then its no problem. It will be very good in fact. Do you think that all of these three regions with their full potential can be put in a game that has a max of 256 mb limit? I am not too sure about the space that will be taken if all the three regions will be there.HGSS has already used a lot of space for the (fantastic!) new features. So I think as far as space goes hoenn won't be in.

GymLeaderLance99 July 8th, 2009 9:36 PM

As much as I like Hoenn (my third-favorite behind #1 Johto and #2 Kanto), it being put into HG/SS seems like it won't happen. Not only are Johto and Kanto involved, as well as the Battle Tower and whatever new areas are in that cloudy part of Route 40 and to the northwest of Cianwood in the Sugimori Johto map, but having Hoenn would take up a lot of space, wouldn't it? Assuming Kanto's getting the full deal this time around compared to GSC!Kanto, of course. Or, if it really is in, maybe the battle between Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza left most of Hoenn underwater or in a desert?

Either way, until there's confirmation about this, I'm not getting hopes up. It'd be cool to have Hoenn in these games, but seeing as how they're GSC remakes (with the new area additions here and there), Hoenn would be Cool Yet Unnecessary.

Myoko-chan July 8th, 2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GavZ (Post 4833385)
We asked for a G/S/C remake with Kanto & Johto region and i feel that that is exactly what we will get in this sense. I don't feel that there will be Hoenn. I'm echoing my own post but i think we're getting plenty as it is! As well as the remake we have been asking for for years! We're also getting a new area (which i think will be where mewtwo will be. If you've seen the movie mewtwo returns then you may have noticed the extra part of johto where mewtwo was living) We're getting Kyogre,Groudon,Rayquaza,Jirachi & NE pichu! As well as the arceus event and The choice of the 3 dragons. I feel we are getting enough to fill the full rom. Not to mention the added pokemon folowing you.

FR/LG had plenty of extra post-game areas/events, and the rom size wasn't that impressive.
Anime is non-canon to video games btw.

Haza July 8th, 2009 10:04 PM

Im hoping for a little taste of Hoenn but not if it will distract attention from Kanto.

derozio July 8th, 2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 4835284)
FR/LG had plenty of extra post-game areas/events, and the rom size wasn't that impressive.

The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!

Mitchman July 8th, 2009 10:22 PM

Well this month's CoroCoro will reveal the secret of the weather trio that is a given but what is it is the question. So yeah its Hoenn or something else.

Myoko-chan July 8th, 2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusher 1 (Post 4835342)
The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!

I meant compared to other GBA roms, it wasn't that impressive. -_-
I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.

derozio July 8th, 2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 4835393)
I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.

I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)

Satoshi Ookami July 8th, 2009 11:25 PM

Oh man if yes then the authors would gain huge credit!
But how in the hack are they wanna add 3rd region... when the rom is filled with huge amount of new events?

Ging July 8th, 2009 11:34 PM

No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

Hoenn should be in this game.



Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


DS-i anyone?

derozio July 8th, 2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ging (Post 4835558)
Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS)

Can you show some proof? Where did you got that? 2 GBS?!!

EDIT: Got the proof!

derozio July 9th, 2009 12:03 AM

Okay so now its proved that HGSS can contain Hoenn but it ultimately depends on Gamefreak and Nintendo to put it in.

Myoko-chan July 9th, 2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusher 1 (Post 4835434)
I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)

A 32mb GBA game automatically expands to 256mb when written on to a GBA flash cart.
You see it as 32 mb on the computer though. Well, that's what happened for me...I could be wrong...

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Originally Posted by Ging (Post 4835558)
No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

Hoenn should be in this game.



Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


DS-i anyone?

*facepalm*
DS Flash carts use MicroSD cards for memory storage. Does it look like normal game catridges would allow you to freely put in MicroSD cards?! -_-
and if you're talking about DSi storage, how will they even distribute the game...?

Ging July 9th, 2009 12:14 AM

True... I was mistaken. :3 I could always go with the excuse that it's super late here!

>>



Anyway, you never know what they could do. I'm just hoping for Hoenn.

deka01 July 9th, 2009 1:14 AM

Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.

Myoko-chan July 9th, 2009 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by deka01 (Post 4835796)
Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.

*facepalm*
Dragon Quest IX isn't even released yet.
(According to Kotaku, the "leaked" rom is malware and automatically bricks your DS.)

billi1000 July 9th, 2009 1:23 AM

A Hoenn remake might happen but nowhere near now, i thnik they will release a hoenn remake after introducing the 5th generation pokemon in a series of games like the 4th generation was introduced in DPPt, and then the fans would have missed hoenn, and it should be an aniversery thnig of some sort like wat happened on HG/SS. As well, since R/S/E are still compatible with the current ds games, then theres really no need if the sole purpose is to get the hoenn pokemon into newer (or older) generations, although many signs of moving away from depending on GBA games has been shown through the DS games with the events and cameo pokemon and the R/S/E legends are now possible to obtain via event, so it seems nintendo is moving away from depending of previous games for completing the pokedex. so a remake including the Hoenn region, if it were to happen, will appear after games introducing the 5th generation have been released.

pkmnhawk July 9th, 2009 1:25 AM

I really hope for a full universal game. Just think, all four regions in one game. Maybe even the possibility of four different championships to win. I believe the games should be longer than a 10 to 30 minute run though (Which is about my average time from starter to beating E4 and Champion), so we actually get our moneys worth from a good storyline and good game play.

And if you disagree with me, remember, Im stating my opinion.


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