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Red.
Assuming we encounter him at Mt. Silver again, do you guys think he'll be redesigned again to match the redesigns of the other main characters or retain his design from FRLG and SSBB?
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I wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked his design a little. After all, Gold, Silver, and Professor Elm received some changes. I would be fine with them either keeping his design as is or making some minor changes, but I certainly hope they don't remake him completely, as that would kill a major part of the nostalgia factor.
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I'm 100% Sure they'll use the FR/LG Red.
HG/SS is the sequel to FR/LG like G/S/C was the sequel to R/G/B/Y I doubt they'd use Red's older design for this very reason. |
Even if it's a minor change such as opening the jacket for the FrLg trainer, it's fine. I just hope his Pokemon are stronger and at higher levels than Barry's.
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if anything they'll probably make him look a little older, seeing as in G/S/C Red was more mature and experienced as obviously he was in R/B/Y
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Sure, the other characters have received redesigns, but Red already received his back in FR/LG. In G/S/C, they used Red's original sprite from R/B/Y, so they will use the newer look for the remake. It's original to original and remake to remake, respectively.
And I really hope they make Red's Pikachu level 90 something and his team 80+, Barry really didn't deserve to take the title of "strongest in-game trainer". Barry is a 10/11 year old that just started his journey. Red is a legendary trainer. Big difference. and plus, it would make it a bigger challenge. |
I suppose they will. It might not be a big change, but sure they might change him up/update him a bit? Make him look a bit more like a pokemon trainer, not just a little kid with a huge baseball cap :P
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red was one of the hardest obsticles i had to overcome!
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well, seeing as how his name is RED, wouldnt his sprite look like the ones from gen 1 but remade to look a lil better???
tho i have to agree that i have a strong feeling he is going to look like FR/LG's main male protagonist...what a bore... |
I think I they would use his FRLG design since that is the most up to date one they have of him. I don't see too much change in his design except it will be cleaner because of the DS graphics.
The only thing I am worry about concerning Red is that they will shadow out his face like they did for GS or would they make it where his face is seeable. That what made him cool when you battle him back in GS. It made him intimidating if you ask me. Going though a long cave and in the end find a mysterious character who just puts you though one of the toughest battles in the franchise. The shadowed up face just made him look tougher. |
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Anyways, I just want him to have the first in-game character to have a level 100 Pokemon. What I mean is this. After you beat him ten times, you fight a new team of his. Pikachu Lv. 100 Charizard Lv. 96 Sceptile Lv. 96 Swampert Lv. 96 Lickylicky Lv. 92 Glaceon Lv. 94 Now THAT will be the team of nightmares! |
I hope they let us re-battle Red after we battled him once. The feeling of battling him is awesome. In the storyline, he is considered as The Legendary League Champion for 3 years prior to the events of G/S/C.
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logical for his team to have Pokemon from Hoenn/Sinnoh/Johto. Either that, or a team of super-leveled cave Pokemon from his self-imposed exile at the bottom of Mt. Silver's caverns. :D |
Wasn't his title in g/s/c PkMnTrainer? They should make it PkMnMaster
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Maybe they'll make him look a little older somehow. Since its suppose to be 3 years later.
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Red should have no Hoenn or Sinnoh Pokemon, some things you should leave as is. The whole nostalgia of Red I want to relive, and so do many others I'm sure. That means he should have no Zigzagoons or Tailows or any of that cute crap.
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But, I wouldn't mind perhaps two battles with Red. The first battle would be with his classic team, and later perhaps with a more national team. |
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They will make him look very similar I think, however with the graphics being a lot better I would assume there will be some differences. I would like to see the same pose though, very mysterious looking of a very good trainer.
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Think of it like this. If they made sequels to the DPP games and you get to battle Diamond or Platinum then would you want them to use just 1st and 2nd generation pokemon. Of course not. It wouldn't make sense if they did use them. They should be using 4th generation pokemon. The same for Red. Still I wouldn't mind battling the guy more then once. It be great training but it is ok if I battle him once and only once. |
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That's the magic of Red. He doesn't need to say anything. If he did, they might make him sound lame. Him saying .... is part of what makes this battle against him so freaking awesome!
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I'd imagine they'd use the sprite from FR/LG. That's the most updated one they have, so it'd be the easiest one to use.
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I personally think red should be renamed to ash, and that his sprite should look similar to the older anime ash! being that Red=Ash, this should work.
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I hope for a similar to Fire Red/Leaf Green sprite. But I'd like to see him change a bit considering Heart Gold/Soul Silver take place years after Fire Red/Leaf Green.
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What i want to know, is Red's name staying as "Red", or 'FireRed"
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I want him to look good. That's all. Whatever changes they make, it should make him look awesome. One more thing: He should have a good pose!;) His AI should be the highest. And about his pokemon: Levels should really rise.
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Since Pokemon are now following you around, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case - Red with a Pikachu by his side ^^ |
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I hope they employ a similar system in these games as they did in FR/LG, and have a sort of R2 mode, where the Elite Four's Pokémon get higher levels after defeating them once and a certain task is completed (i.e Ruby/Sapphire plates in FR/LG). In teh first battle, his Pokémon have the same levels as they did in the originals, and in R2 they are all 10 levels higher. |
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As for his sprite design, I wouldn't mind a little upgrade from his FR/LG one. Like someone else said, it would only make sense for him to look pretty much the same as in the previous remakes. |
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As for why he has an Espeon, look at it this way: all his members were one-time events in Yellow (well, you could get Snorlax twice, but whatever). Since Electric, Water, and Fire were already covered in his team, it wouldn't make sense to have Flareon/Jolteon/Vaporeon in his team, and I guess they just chose Espeon over Umbreon. I figure Red will be in his FRLG incarnation, maybe in the original pose for nostalgia's sake, and his team will be the same, just with higher levels. I think the Platinum rival's team was just a way of saying "hey, see what we're doing here? Yeah, wait until you see what we're doing next." Of course Red is going to once again be the most powerful challenger. Why wouldn't he be? |
I liked Red's FRLG sprite but I think that some changes may be made in his sprite to make him look better. I personally think that there is room for improvement.
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It would be great if they made him a new sprite as I didn't really like the FR/LG one that much.
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I'd expect something like the one below...
I know it looks bad, but hey, 3 minutes of work >_< About his team, i think it should stay the same, but with higher lvls. Not something like LV91 Pikachu, I think about 5-6 LVs would be enough. And we should be able to battle him more than once in the game, maybe everytime you OWND E4 10 times? His look should NOT be FRBG, I didn't like that one. The pose he had in GSC was good, they should only re-colour it and - BAM! Better Red ^^ |
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Isn't Red's default human name Ash? So it's perfectly fine to call Red, "Ash."
Default Names: Red Ash Jack Also....RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK RED DESERVES AN ANIMATION. *Raises both hands.* |
Does anyone have a picture of Red's GSC sprite?
I just hope that his levels beat Barry's level, like many people. |
I think that they will be keeping his original look, but if not, he will only be slightly altered.
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http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/KartWheelyGirl/RED-1.png (Credit goes to spriters-resource for original.) I agree. I want his levels to surpass that of Barry's. Barry hasn't earned what Red has earned. |
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It's on this page.
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/pokefrlg/sheet/3689 Personally, I like his old look better. |
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http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070813a.jpg |
I, for one, hope that his new design is based 60% on the one from G/S/C, which is also very close to the one from R/B/Y. 15% should be taken from the one in FR/LG.
For the other 25%, it should be totally new elements. I just hope the new design is great. For the one in G/S/C, I just loved the pose and the way it looked |
I really don't care as long as Red looks good. They can make any changes but he should look good.
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so why not i think its a good idea for him to a torterra after you beat him a few times, to keep the game fresh |
I don't mind what Pokemon they give him as long as Leaf doesn't replace him in Mount Silver. I just would like if his original team was there for the first time I battle him. It can change later on. I don't mind. I just want my first/last battle with him to be like old times sake. (It's like seeing an old friend.)
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People seem to forget that the anime is based on the games, and NOT the other way around.
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He's gunna be flipped and recolored! Yay! XD I you don't understand what I mean, the Yellow trainer sprite was the same one used GSC, only flipped and recolored to be completely Red. Check it out on Bulbapedia. No link for you. =P
Seriously though, they're probably only going to make it a longer/taller sprite to match up with the rest of the DPPT/HGSS sprites. |
I hope they keep him the same, but perhaps level him up a little. Like with the rival in DPPlt, each time you fight him he levels a little.
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I would like his sprite to be much more similar to his R/B/Y version, it looks much cooler.
And maybe give him a 'custom' Pikachu. It has higher stats than normal Pikachu's (And maybe Raichu's) plus Surf for a true challenge. And don't send it out first. |
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I want Red's Pikachu to know Volt Tackle. It must be stronger than Barry's strongest Pokemon.
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One thing about all of this... The Red in Gold/Silver/Crystal isn't the same Red as in FireRed/LeafGreen or even Red/Blue/Green, he is the Red from Pokémon Yellow. The one that got a Pikachu as a starter and had all three of the Kanto starters. Which wasn't the case in FireRed/LeafGreen and would be sort of weird for it being a sequel to FireRed/LeafGreen.
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