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Sakura Rain July 13th, 2009 7:50 PM

I'd imagine they'd use the sprite from FR/LG. That's the most updated one they have, so it'd be the easiest one to use.

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Either that, or a team of super-leveled cave Pokemon from his self-imposed exile at the bottom of Mt. Silver's caverns. :D
LOLworthy. I'd love to see Red with a team of super-leveled cave Pokemon.

duckdavis July 13th, 2009 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by charizard_maa (Post 4854626)
I think I they would use his FRLG design since that is the most up to date one they have of him. I don't see too much change in his design except it will be cleaner because of the DS graphics.

The only thing I am worry about concerning Red is that they will shadow out his face like they did for GS or would they make it where his face is seeable. That what made him cool when you battle him back in GS. It made him intimidating if you ask me. Going though a long cave and in the end find a mysterious character who just puts you though one of the toughest battles in the franchise. The shadowed up face just made him look tougher.

Not necessarily. The sprite in G/S/C of Red was the same sprite that was used for Red in Pokemon Yellow. So in my opinion they didn't really try to conceal his face.

3dd13 July 13th, 2009 8:11 PM

Red.
 
I personally think red should be renamed to ash, and that his sprite should look similar to the older anime ash! being that Red=Ash, this should work.

GodofPH July 13th, 2009 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dd13 (Post 4855211)
I personally think red should be renamed to ash, and that his sprite should look similar to the older anime ash! being that Red=Ash, this should work.

Red can keep his Pikachu, but we don't need the anime exerting too much influence on this game...

Randomizer July 13th, 2009 10:35 PM

I hope for a similar to Fire Red/Leaf Green sprite. But I'd like to see him change a bit considering Heart Gold/Soul Silver take place years after Fire Red/Leaf Green.

YellowPen July 13th, 2009 10:59 PM

What i want to know, is Red's name staying as "Red", or 'FireRed"

derozio July 13th, 2009 11:13 PM

I want him to look good. That's all. Whatever changes they make, it should make him look awesome. One more thing: He should have a good pose!;) His AI should be the highest. And about his pokemon: Levels should really rise.

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Originally Posted by YellowPen (Post 4855665)
What i want to know, is Red's name staying as "Red", or 'FireRed"

He will stay as red lol XD.

Mana July 14th, 2009 3:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 3dd13 (Post 4855211)
I personally think red should be renamed to ash, and that his sprite should look similar to the older anime ash! being that Red=Ash, this should work.


Since Pokemon are now following you around, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case - Red with a Pikachu by his side ^^

derozio July 14th, 2009 4:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 4855937)
Since Pokemon are now following you around, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case - Red with a Pikachu by his side ^^

Yeah. Maybe that's true XD!

LethalTexture July 14th, 2009 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4854068)
Even if it's a minor change such as opening the jacket for the FrLg trainer, it's fine. I just hope his Pokemon are stronger and at higher levels than Barry's.

I agree with this 100%. Annoyed me no end that his party reached higher levels than Red's did. Red symbolises the series for me, and to have him 2nd best takes away the epicness of the battle.

I hope they employ a similar system in these games as they did in FR/LG, and have a sort of R2 mode, where the Elite Four's Pokémon get higher levels after defeating them once and a certain task is completed (i.e Ruby/Sapphire plates in FR/LG). In teh first battle, his Pokémon have the same levels as they did in the originals, and in R2 they are all 10 levels higher.

JP July 14th, 2009 6:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 4855937)
Since Pokemon are now following you around, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case - Red with a Pikachu by his side ^^

That's very likely! I can see it as well. Gamefreak would be fools not to utilize that Following system on Red.

As for his sprite design, I wouldn't mind a little upgrade from his FR/LG one. Like someone else said, it would only make sense for him to look pretty much the same as in the previous remakes.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ July 14th, 2009 6:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 4855937)
Since Pokemon are now following you around, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case - Red with a Pikachu by his side ^^

I would love to see that, would be awesome =)


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Timbjerr July 14th, 2009 6:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 4856211)
I hope they employ a similar system in these games as they did in FR/LG, and have a sort of R2 mode, where the Elite Four's Pokémon get higher levels after defeating them once and a certain task is completed (i.e Ruby/Sapphire plates in FR/LG). In teh first battle, his Pokémon have the same levels as they did in the originals, and in R2 they are all 10 levels higher.

Don't you think 10 is a little too low? I'm thinking more like twenty (putting their pokemon in the range of lvl.60-70). Of course, you have to beat the eight Kanto gym leaders before rematching them, and only after beating the E4 again can you face Red (team upped in level such that his signature Pikachu is lvl.91)

Dominus Temporis July 14th, 2009 7:04 AM

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Originally Posted by charizard_maa (Post 4855096)
Red was based on the anime character Ash with influences from the manga character Red (really I am not sure but it seem possible or maybe I have it switched wrong) which is why most of his pokemon were from Kanto since those were pokemon he used. I have no idea why they gave him an Espeon but still the pokemon he used were to represent the homeland that he came from.

Nope, game Red was first. Ash and manga Red and all other variations came after, but the Red in the game was the original.

As for why he has an Espeon, look at it this way: all his members were one-time events in Yellow (well, you could get Snorlax twice, but whatever). Since Electric, Water, and Fire were already covered in his team, it wouldn't make sense to have Flareon/Jolteon/Vaporeon in his team, and I guess they just chose Espeon over Umbreon.

I figure Red will be in his FRLG incarnation, maybe in the original pose for nostalgia's sake, and his team will be the same, just with higher levels. I think the Platinum rival's team was just a way of saying "hey, see what we're doing here? Yeah, wait until you see what we're doing next." Of course Red is going to once again be the most powerful challenger. Why wouldn't he be?

derozio July 14th, 2009 7:13 AM

I liked Red's FRLG sprite but I think that some changes may be made in his sprite to make him look better. I personally think that there is room for improvement.

TheOnion July 14th, 2009 10:07 AM

It would be great if they made him a new sprite as I didn't really like the FR/LG one that much.

Zhorm July 14th, 2009 10:54 AM

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I'd expect something like the one below...
I know it looks bad, but hey, 3 minutes of work >_<

About his team, i think it should stay the same, but with higher lvls. Not something like LV91 Pikachu, I think about 5-6 LVs would be enough. And we should be able to battle him more than once in the game, maybe everytime you OWND E4 10 times? His look should NOT be FRBG, I didn't like that one. The pose he had in GSC was good, they should only re-colour it and - BAM! Better Red ^^

charizard_maa July 14th, 2009 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominus Temporis (Post 4856352)
Nope, game Red was first. Ash and manga Red and all other variations came after, but the Red in the game was the original.

As for why he has an Espeon, look at it this way: all his members were one-time events in Yellow (well, you could get Snorlax twice, but whatever). Since Electric, Water, and Fire were already covered in his team, it wouldn't make sense to have Flareon/Jolteon/Vaporeon in his team, and I guess they just chose Espeon over Umbreon.

I figure Red will be in his FRLG incarnation, maybe in the original pose for nostalgia's sake, and his team will be the same, just with higher levels. I think the Platinum rival's team was just a way of saying "hey, see what we're doing here? Yeah, wait until you see what we're doing next." Of course Red is going to once again be the most powerful challenger. Why wouldn't he be?

Well I meant that either Ash or Red from the manga came first after the game. I wasn't sure. Still I figured that the Espeon was paying homage to the manga Red since that came before the anime and they were making his team to be based on pokemon he had in the manga or to pay homage to the anime. Or just a combination of the both. Still I didn't think about how you said it.

Sweet Smoochum July 14th, 2009 3:42 PM

Isn't Red's default human name Ash? So it's perfectly fine to call Red, "Ash."

Default Names:
Red
Ash
Jack

Also....RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK RED DESERVES AN ANIMATION.

*Raises both hands.*

Retro Bug July 14th, 2009 3:43 PM

Does anyone have a picture of Red's GSC sprite?

I just hope that his levels beat Barry's level, like many people.

Stronkadonk July 14th, 2009 3:44 PM

I think that they will be keeping his original look, but if not, he will only be slightly altered.

Sweet Smoochum July 14th, 2009 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Discostick. (Post 4858015)
Does anyone have a picture of Red's GSC sprite?

I just hope that his levels beat Barry's level, like many people.

Yes, I do. (I also recolored his sprite as well. :)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/KartWheelyGirl/RED-1.png

(Credit goes to spriters-resource for original.)

I agree. I want his levels to surpass that of Barry's. Barry hasn't earned what Red has earned.

Retro Bug July 14th, 2009 3:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4858043)
Yes, I do. (I also recolored his sprite as well. :)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/KartWheelyGirl/RED-1.png

(Credit goes to spriters-resource for original.)

I agree. I want his levels to surpass that of Barry's. Barry hasn't earned what Red has earned.

Thanks! I accidentally said the wrong thing, I meant his FrLg sprite.

Sweet Smoochum July 14th, 2009 3:59 PM

It's on this page.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/gameboy_advance/pokefrlg/sheet/3689

Personally, I like his old look better.

ShinyMeganium July 14th, 2009 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 4853767)
Assuming we encounter him at Mt. Silver again, do you guys think he'll be redesigned again to match the redesigns of the other main characters or retain his design from FRLG and SSBB?

I think they'll use the FRLG design, maybe something would be slightly different...but what the hell is SSBB again?


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