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i seriously believe the scrapbox was better in a way that it gives new hackers to post their ideas and people can discuss,[excluding the spams/not logical threads that were made],but people from the scrapbox,for me that is,their hack improved when it was moved to the progrssing hacks as during the time at scrapbox,people have given ideas,sugestion..etc.. But thats what i think,the beginner lounge is also a good idea but as we all see,there been locked threads there instead of good threads that are made.. |
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I was dissapointed when they closed the scrapbox. The only problem was that everyone kept abusing it, it would have worked much better if the scrapbox threads needed to be approved, and if they had some more rules. but it's gone now, if people had treated it better, it'd probably still be here today. D:
About the beginner lounge, I think what's the point of it if every thread a beginner made has been locked? |
The removal of the scrapbox was the best idea ever! The moving of the threads is silly, it mixes emulation, and rom hacking in a weird way.
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Even if want to return to good old days of emulation zone, moderators decided to do it in the way it is now, so even if we complain, we must accept it =)
But personally I don't hate the new style ;) I think it's better for newbies =) |
Well, the new layout doesn't really look like it's changing any time soon. Other than that, I'm getting quite used to it about now (so I don't mind as much).
I do have a new discussion topic though. What is your input about giving the player the ability to speak. What I mean is giving the player speech. I'm actually against the idea, I think that the Player should stay a mysterious character, however, the Player saying '...' instead of speech is a different story in my opinion. You could even make it seem like the person the player is conversing or saying '...' to is actually responding to he player. Example: Man: Why do you think ROM hacking is fun? Player: ... .. .... Man: That's true, but mapping isn't really hacking. Which I think it more than enough (because it feels weird when I play as the player and he says stuff). Like to hear some of your thoughts :) |
It feels weird to have you talking, even with just "...", mostly because the character is a representation of you in this world. It's not some other character, it's really meant to be you. That's what that whole introduction with a severe lack of fourth wall is for. I don't say anything besides YES/NO or one of the multichoices, so I don't want the game to say anything aside from those in my stead.
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Well I prefer talking character. I mean... it's really weird to have a silent character... I know player character is you in game, but wouldn't it be weird if people were talking to you and you wouldn't reply and stay silent?
If you are really good narrator you can pretty much give player speech which the real player would really say. So as for me I prefer talking character. |
When I hack, I do everything I can to prevent the player from speaking. :)
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The silent protagonist has been a feature for the Pokemon series in general, so I don't see any reason to break that long-standing tradition. The player and main character may not shared the same feelings about the world they are in, so the creator is essentially forcing their own view on the player.
I hate it when others speak for me, so why should I do the same for anybody else? |
Now, I have a view on this that doesn't seem to have been said. If there was a personality thing in the game to decide how some events say and what your character says, or a choice (as that is speaking. Yes and No... the character says it in game, in a way), then I say OK. If it is random things that I know I wouldn't say, then I tend to get annoyed, but I don't really care too much.
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I say that it depends. I really like how the character in Identity talks, it actually makes the whole story more varnished.
In other situations where the hack is Nin-esqued, I say no. It really depends on my view. |
yea TF, its just like he is sick if he doesnt talk lol, i love when he/she says something and funny :D
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Mind blown. Then again, BW mostly runs on the same engine as DP, so crack that and you crack the other. The only reason it took so long with DP was, mostly because of a lack of hackers willing to work on something like this, so it's nice. I think I'll still stick to ma third gen, though. :D
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Well IMO BW hacks will not apear so soon as we think!
It's general structure is somewhat different than those of DPPt... But then again, it was shown that a perfect hack, with as goo, or even better graphics can be made on a 3rd GEN ROM, so... |
Hey, I just realised. Gen 4 now has mapping + scripting + text + misc. editors, but still nobody hacks it. lol nobody likes scripting with numbers, tch.
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I don't think mapping is released yet
Some people do create small hacks of it Give it some time I guess |
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Hey, you and me both, brother. I dislike the 4th gen, for some weird reason. I cbf arguing with it though, and will just hype myself for Super Scribblenauts + Black + Kirby's Epic Yarn + Ace Attorney V Professor Layton.
On topic, what do you guys think about the 4th generation hacking scene? I mean, most of the stuff people were complaining about has arrived, so do you think people will start hacking it? Or is the ROM Hacking community so wired around Advance (which, believe me, is happening to a lot of places which have GBA -> DS transitions) that it won't shift for a while yet? |
About a different subject: The ROM Hacking forums. Why are all threads closed in 'Beginners Lounge' with questions. I mean, the whole point of a subforum for beginners is that beginners can ask questions. However, the moderators abviously think all questions should go in the stickied threads. >=( But in those threads not all questions are answered (due to the massive overload of questions) and in individual threads one's problems are better helped.
Does anyone agree with me that the Beginners lounge should be open for individual threads? |
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