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~Frozen Darkness~ July 15th, 2009 8:59 AM

Ho-oh - Cursed throughout generations. Also, the returning Plat. sprites.
 
Serebii now has the new Ho-oh sprite.

I feel bad for the bird. In every sprite it had excluding Silver, its wings are in that weird position. When will it not have that? It just makes all of Ho-oh's sprites look the same, except for different leg positions.

Also, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina's sprites were shown. Its such a shame that Nintendo just took sprites from Platinum instead of making new sprites. Your thoughts on Ho-oh and the Plat. sprites' returning?

Mitchman July 15th, 2009 9:03 AM

Platinum sprites make sense. No need to remake all 210 Pokemon yet again. Only ones that would change are the ones of the Kanto/Johto evolution expansion lines.

Sweet Smoochum July 15th, 2009 9:11 AM

I actually liked some of the Platinum sprites for the Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokemon. I don't mind if they use the same sprites as long as the Kanto and Johto pokes were remade. Ho-oh's sprite was kind of a disappointment, but it still looks nice. (Have you noticed that the back sprites of the starters still look the same as DPPt's?) They probably wanted to keep that "Heart" look for Ho-oh. I like how they made its overworld and the background behind it on top of Tin Tower. (I really like those Ho-oh statues.) There's nothing I can do about it so I won't complain.

Kerjo July 15th, 2009 9:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4860220)
(Have you noticed that the back sprites of the starters still look the same as DPPt's?)

Yeah, they're pretty close but the design is a bit different. It might just be me, but there seems to more color in the sprites. That and I took a look Feraligatr's d/p/pt and HG/SS sprites and theres a small difference, but it counts.

Ayselipera July 15th, 2009 9:44 AM

I won't even be using Hoenn or Sinnoh pokemon in the remakes so I don't care if they keep the same sprites for those pokemon.

Sweet Smoochum July 15th, 2009 9:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerjo (Post 4860315)
Yeah, they're pretty close but the design is a bit different. It might just be me, but there seems to more color in the sprites. That and I took a look Feraligatr's d/p/pt and HG/SS sprites and theres a small difference, but it counts.

(Not to be misread, but I liked the back sprites from DPPt.) It looked as if they looked the same, but now I can tell the difference. Also, I think the animations are different this time. I like the front sprite for Feraligatr. It looks cool like its artwork. I don't mind having the Sinnoh and Hoenn pokemon having the same sprites as Platinum's because it's better than some of Diamond and Pearl's sprites of them. (For example, Glameow, Stunky, Purugly, etc.)

IcyArceusRider July 15th, 2009 12:34 PM

It's fine with me if they don't want to remake ALL the sprites. They can leave some of the Sinnoh and Hoenn sprites the same, I suppose. And I liked the Platinum sprites, too. I would like to see the Kanto and Johto pokemon sprites remade a little, though.

sanny the hedgehog July 15th, 2009 12:39 PM

honestly i never really cared for ho-oh
and one of the reasons was lack of originality, for the sprite

Kyledove July 15th, 2009 1:06 PM

I've always liked Ho-oh (though his face always looks angry) but I agree that they really need to make a new pose for it, mhmm...

Dunsparce July 15th, 2009 1:08 PM

I'm 100% sure that all 251 Kanto and Johto Pokemon will get new sprites

27 Hoenn Pokemon got new Sprites in Platinum(The ones in the Sinnoh dex), as did all 107 Sinnoh Pokemon

So, we'll most likely see:

-251 Completely new Sprites
-134 Platinum Sprites
-108 Diamond and Pearl Sprites (The remaining Hoenn Pokemon)

HereticSteel July 15th, 2009 1:13 PM

sprites dont make any difference to me, as long as i can tell the pokemon apart ;)

GodofPH July 15th, 2009 5:43 PM

That's surprising Ho-oh, as a version mascot, doesn't get a new sprite, but I like the Platinum sprites anyways, so it's all good.

:3 July 15th, 2009 6:08 PM

I don't like the Ho-Oh one that much..
It's wings look, weird.

The Dialga and Palkia ones look, almost, exactly, the same.

AlphaMightyena July 15th, 2009 8:12 PM

it's wings were weird. hopefully heartgold and soulsilver do a better job on it.

TeddiursaFan July 15th, 2009 8:50 PM

The wings are up like last time, which shows a lack of creativity. Though, I'm pleased that they changed the legs and the other parts. If you've seen the other Ho-oh sprites, then you should know that the only Ho-oh sprite that doesn't have the wings up is the one for siver. Maybe GameFreak is satisfied with Ho-oh facing towards you with the wings up or they had trouble reposing it. Though, I agree with Gymleaderlily about how cool the background of the top of Tin Tower looks like.

Åzurε July 15th, 2009 9:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyledove (Post 4861075)
I've always liked Johto (though his face always looks angry) but I agree that they really need to make a new pose for it, mhmm...

Do you think he's a pretty cool guy, too? ;P

At any rate, I like the new sprites, and it's ok if they just rip the platinum ones. most won't make much a difference anyway. The only ones people will really gripe about will be the local 'Dex ones, and maybe some others. Ho-Oh's was always weird to me, it's not really worse now.

billi1000 July 15th, 2009 9:50 PM

every pokemon in the Johto Dex will have a new sprite, and the rest will simply have their old platinum sprites which is the same case in platinum were the pokemon not in the platinum dex had their DP sprites, so it was pretty much expected... and for the ho-oh thing, i think its an anime thing why its sprite is always in that pose, but ya i do agree i did get board of that pose and would like to see another :P...

Red July 16th, 2009 12:10 AM

Let's see...
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5145/fa250.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/hooh2.png
The main change seems to be with the legs, like previously mentioned. However, the head is lower and the tail is raised to about body height.

mewunlimited July 16th, 2009 4:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red (Post 4862675)
Let's see...
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5145/fa250.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/hooh2.png
The main change seems to be with the legs, like previously mentioned. However, the head is lower and the tail is raised to about body height.

And ho-oh`s body is now a proper red (YAHOO!!!).
There is nothing wrong with ho-oh`s pose. It has been like that because..
1 - It looks sacred which is the main idea around ho-oh
2 - It is the only way to fit it inside the sprite frame and still look cool

Jordan... July 16th, 2009 8:14 AM

I hope that in HG/SS that the sprites move when you send them out. Like in platinum.
Also Ho-Oh's sprite dosen't bother me much.

protovad July 16th, 2009 8:47 AM

well theres not alot of ways to show all of ho-oh's feathers and its whole body except by sprites like its current one

Sweet Smoochum July 16th, 2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red (Post 4862675)
Let's see...
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5145/fa250.pnghttp://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/hooh2.png
The main change seems to be with the legs, like previously mentioned. However, the head is lower and the tail is raised to about body height.

Also, the mouth on Ho-oh looks more closed than the other. The Platinum one has its mouth wide open. Also the gold on its head isn't as rounded, and the head appears to be smaller.

Ho-oh is still cool. I like its wings like that. If they closed them, it would look similar to Moltres. At least the coloring for it looks a lot better in HGSS.

xxChazxx July 16th, 2009 11:29 AM

I think Ho-Oh looks amazing in any pose. It pretty much owns everyone anyway.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ July 16th, 2009 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan... (Post 4863557)
I hope that in HG/SS that the sprites move when you send them out. Like in platinum.
Also Ho-Oh's sprite dosen't bother me much.

they do, you've seen the videos for it?
I think the Silver version of Ho-oh looks way worse
I do hope they make different sprites like they did in G/S, but I know thats not going to happen, GF is too lazy


:t354:TG

Dialga812 July 16th, 2009 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Frozen Darkness~ (Post 4860191)
Serebii now has the new Ho-oh sprite.

I feel bad for the bird. In every sprite it had excluding Silver, its wings are in that weird position. When will it not have that? It just makes all of Ho-oh's sprites look the same, except for different leg positions.

i know :cer_pissed:
and like it doesn't have gud sprite pose
like lugia's ...
hmmm ohwell..
i still like ho-oh :cer_love:

Mōnštȝr¿ July 16th, 2009 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4860200)
Platinum sprites make sense. No need to remake all 210 Pokemon yet again. Only ones that would change are the ones of the Kanto/Johto evolution expansion lines.

Yeah I pretty much agree here.

Captain Riolu July 16th, 2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~ (Post 4865141)

I do hope they make different sprites like they did in G/S, but I know thats not going to happen, GF is too lazy

I miss that. I thought that was really interesting. It kinda gave each version their own little uniqueness. But I doubt it will happen again...... :(


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