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Fox♠ August 9th, 2009 8:47 AM

...Oh my.

Guys, I'm..I guess I'm speechless.
Vendix, yuuichi was clearly agitated, I know for the most part you were only following the crit rule (well done for that btw) but I think it should of being clear that yuuichi wasn't going to take your crit well and you should of taken that in and just left the thread be. On top of that, you started arguing back and then posting completely irrelevant messages which didn't help at all.

.Fukari, I understand a lot of what you were saying, I too get hacked off when i and others give out decent crits only to have them refused and thrown back in our faces, however, posting about it and going off topic wasn't the answer, as I said above, leaving the thread alone would of being a much better idea.

07Harris. Please try following our rules and not going off topic in the future.

Yuuichi, seriously. If you're going to get angry over criticism, especially a forum where the rules demand decent crit, then i strongly suggest you take a step back from posting sprites for a while, follow some tutorials, think it through a little and then come back to it. Crit is there to help you, and trust me, everything Vendix was saying (although yes he could/should of being nicer) is true. Your shading, anatomy and palettes could all do with work, so could perspective and design. I can't help but feel you have jumped into the deep end by posting scratches so early on in your spriting legacy, try some fusions, recolours etc and build up your skills.

Kyouya August 10th, 2009 11:12 AM

ive been trying to work on my shading and this is the latest result
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7222/snakek.png

.Tactic. August 10th, 2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 4967838)
ive been trying to work on my shading and this is the latest result
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7222/snakek.png

An improvement already see!

C&C:
outline - try and do the outline shading
shape - a bit off but that takes work

nothing else really - good job - you are improving!

Kyouya August 10th, 2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07harris (Post 4967871)
An improvement already see!

C&C:
outline - try and do the outline shading
shape - a bit off but that takes work

nothing else really - good job - you are improving!

can you tell its a snake if not then the outline is worst then you think

Vednix August 10th, 2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox♠ (Post 4963394)
...Oh my.

Guys, I'm..I guess I'm speechless.
Vendix, yuuichi was clearly agitated, I know for the most part you were only following the crit rule (well done for that btw) but I think it should of being clear that yuuichi wasn't going to take your crit well and you should of taken that in and just left the thread be. On top of that, you started arguing back and then posting completely irrelevant messages which didn't help at all.

-.-' your right Fox. Sorry for that.

Anyway, I mgiht as well crit this latest one and leave it at that. It look a little bumpy and messy half way down. It could be rounded more there. could do with more rounding overall, and some outline shading. THe shading looks a little pillow shaded around the top (i.e light in the middle, darker shade around it and so on. it's a bit different in official pokemon). Overall, it's an improvement.

.Tactic. August 10th, 2009 11:42 AM

you could make it look more hmmmm pokemonish , by add horns and extra features - but yeah i guess it looks a bit like a snake!

Kyouya August 10th, 2009 4:22 PM

again i try
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1183/idontknow2.png
i havent thought of a name for the other on nor this one yet

pinkpanther8u August 10th, 2009 5:43 PM

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2867/volty.pngthis has some good basic shape to it. although that color is WAY too bright.
id try something a bit softer. i applaud you for using an outline color that isnt plain black, it gives the sprie more character. some of the lines are a bit scetchy though, i think you should take this sprite off until you have is completly done so that we can see what exactly you are going for though. your on the right track with this, though you have a lot you need to improve on, remember:practice DOES make perfect!

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 10th, 2009 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 4968807)
again i try
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1183/idontknow2.png
i havent thought of a name for the other on nor this one yet

your really getting better and better at this, good job. You could do a bit more shading for this one and the outline around the head isn't really smooth but other then that great job.


:t354:TG

Kyouya August 11th, 2009 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 4969494)
your really getting better and better at this, good job. You could do a bit more shading for this one and the outline around the head isn't really smooth but other then that great job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 4969494)


:t354:TG

ok i was trying to focus on giving it detail and forgot to give it shading

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 4968807)
again i try
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1183/idontknow2.png
i havent thought of a name for the other on nor this one yet

Well this is sure an improvement, though you hate me, this is actually better than your old ones, but remember that you should use some more colors instead of just 5 or 6, also have black outlines in the under part. (legs, belly)

Gary, the Magic Fairy August 25th, 2009 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 4968807)
again i try
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1183/idontknow2.png
i havent thought of a name for the other on nor this one yet

This needs a lot of work. Frankly, the palette choice is awful. A slightly desaturated light magenta, with no other colors. There is almost no shading in the outline, and the shading overall makes little sense. The anatomy is confusing, I honestly don't know what it is I'm looking at here, everything seems to run together with the pink lines. I don't know what that thing running off the head up the back is. An ear? It doesn't capture the pokemon style very well at all; the pose is facing too far sideways. I would recommend working on the anatomy and linework first.

Ben. August 25th, 2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xatoku (Post 4890553)
No offense, but I don't think you're inclined to help because the fact is, you're not that good either. Don't take it the wrong way, just sayin.

yes his is
also http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5850/almostdone2.png
all you did is press Ctrl+I so all shading is reversed :/
try to use 2 different colors on other sprites

Kyouya August 25th, 2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~BZuma (Post 5035279)
yes his is

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~BZuma (Post 5035279)
also http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5850/almostdone2.png
all you did is press Ctrl+I so all shading is reversed :/
try to use 2 different colors on other sprites

1.no he isnt
2.old sprite

__________________________________
I have two new sprites

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1877/snake.png
my scond trie at a snake
the pink thing is his tongue the red are spots
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4923/ombrenus.png
ombrenus
forget about that ombrenus i recolored
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1262/ombrenus2.png

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 11:36 AM

The snake is an improvement, just make it more smooth.

Ombrenus, or whatever has, yet again, a bad pallete, try using multiple colours.
Ombrenus also has the light coming from the left, not top-left.

Kyouya August 25th, 2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5035345)
The snake is an improvement, just make it more smooth.

Ombrenus, or whatever has, yet again, a bad pallete, try using multiple colours.
Ombrenus also has the light coming from the left, not top-left.

i recolored ombrenus but it is still only one color

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 12:02 PM

What I mean for Ombrenus is that you can have blue/pink or whatever color you're using, but you should make the wings a different color from the body, to make it look not plain. Your pokemon only have like 6 or 7 colors, instead, you could have 16. Compare yours with Nintendo's, and think about it.

Kyouya August 25th, 2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5035411)
What I mean for Ombrenus is that you can have blue/pink or whatever color you're using, but you should make the wings a different color from the body, to make it look not plain. Your pokemon only have like 6 or 7 colors, instead, you could have 16. Compare yours with Nintendo's, and think about it.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1262/ombrenus2.png
ok i made em red

Gary, the Magic Fairy August 25th, 2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 5035332)
1.no he isnt
2.old sprite

__________________________________
I have two new sprites

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1877/snake.png
my scond trie at a snake
the pink thing is his tongue the red are spots
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4923/ombrenus.png
ombrenus
forget about that ombrenus i recolored
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1262/ombrenus2.png

Pokemon style sprites do not face forward, nor do they face the side. The snake's linework is jagged and lumpy, the shading needs a lot of work, and the spots are distracting and add nothing of interest to the sprite -- I would suggest losing them. The tongue is poorly shaped and uses a bad palette. It's much too bright.

As 5qwerty said about the second sprite, the shading is coming from the wrong direction for pokemon-styled sprites, the palette needs help, and also, the shading is flat. That recolor's palette is atrocious, by the way. Not nearly enough contrast in the highlights and shadows, and it's too dark overall, hiding the details of the sprite.

Seriously, you should try to get palettes from existing sprites, and try to learn the style better before attempting to create your own palette.

[Edit]
Quote:

Originally Posted by yuuichi (Post 5035438)

This is even worse. You need to use colors that complement each other, not horribly clash. You also shouldn't have a blue outline on a red wing.

.Tactic. August 25th, 2009 12:24 PM

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1262/ombrenus2.png
change the colour on the wings to something (qoute kenji): that complements the other colour...

And the outline of the wings is still blue :(

Gary, the Magic Fairy August 25th, 2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07harris (Post 5035478)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1262/ombrenus2.png
change the colour on the wings to something (qoute kenji): that complements the other colour...

And the outline of the wings is still blue :(

Or, change the blue to something that complements the red, since it's a much better color choice than that blue. Not that it's a great choice, but it definitely beats the blue.

Also, I just noticed that you completely altered the shading by recoloring the wings. Now the wings seem to have a light source coming from the body, while the body's light source is coming from the left. That.. isn't good.

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 12:29 PM

Personally, I think Red is fine. I mean look at Salemance, Blue body with red wings, nothing wrong with it.

Gary, the Magic Fairy August 25th, 2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5035498)
Personally, I think Red is fine. I mean look at Salemance, Blue body with red wings, nothing wrong with it.

Salamence is also a different shade of blue and not as over-saturated in color. His wings are more orange than red in his sprites, btw.

Kyouya August 25th, 2009 12:48 PM

i changed the wings outline and added a lower bodie and maade it face bottom left next is adding arms

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 12:52 PM

Where? Where did you put the new sprite?


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