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Giratinarules July 21st, 2009 10:52 PM

WILL YOUR RIVAL BE A TEAM ROCKET
 
Well when i played pokemon firered when i came across the team rocket scientist.
and after i beat him he said
No, that can't be right!
Giovanni's kid has red hair.
which silver has
and silver has a nidoking whick also giovanni has

xxChazxx July 21st, 2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giratinarules (Post 4884208)
Well when i played pokemon firered when i came across the team rocket scientist.
and after i beat him he said
No, that can't be right!
Giovanni's kid has red hair.
which silver has
and silver has a nidoking whick also giovanni has

Old information is old.

But, I really hope that they go into the story with this. Perhaps Giovanni and Silver will be in the same room and a story scene will present things further.

Charizard_Man July 21st, 2009 11:33 PM

Well they never really went into detail about the whole father/son relationship between them in the game. They did cover it in Pokemon Special, but never in the game. It will be interesting to see in Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

Wings Don't Cry July 22nd, 2009 1:01 AM

Since when has Silver had a Nidoking, if I can recall his team was Starter, Gengar, Crobat, Magneton, Sneasal and Alakazam

Mew~ July 22nd, 2009 1:39 AM

If you look in the intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh6XD6yYqPg
look at one of the team rocket members wereing white maybe she could be his mum?

Giratinarules July 22nd, 2009 1:40 AM

He has a nidoking in the anime according to bulbapedia
at the opening of the original japanease opening of legend of thunder

Top Hat T-Rex July 22nd, 2009 2:17 AM

no, he hates Team Rocket in the manga, sooo yeah :P

Kerjo July 22nd, 2009 2:23 AM

You can't rely on the anime to have anything to do with the games. Silver hates team rocket in the game (and the manga) so he won't be on their side. Also, he doesn't have a Nidoking in the game.

Skara July 22nd, 2009 2:44 AM

maybe he hates team rocket for a reason, he had a bad time with his dad or something
thing about details ¬_¬

Serene Grace July 22nd, 2009 3:14 AM

That theory has been tossed around since the original Pokemon Silver and Gold came out. Looking at the clues, I think he is the son of Giovanni but he was abandoned by him when he was young. Hence the reason why he has no parents and started off full of hate.

Wings Don't Cry July 22nd, 2009 3:25 AM

In the manga doesn't it say that he was kidnapped by The Masked Man when he was little since he showed potential, so Giovanni has been doing everything he could to track him down

GymLeaderSilver July 22nd, 2009 11:05 AM

No, there should be none of this "father-son" plot or any emotional backstory about how he was abandoned, Silver's mystery will be gone then.

Kyle Black July 22nd, 2009 8:49 PM

well in my opinion..
i think silver's dad
forced him to be a team
rocket member. and maybe he
denied and said he wants to be
a pokemon trainer (pokemon master)
or he might have said he
wants to be a champion.
then maybe giovanni and his
son had a fight about it
and now silver might have
bad relationship with his
dad and his parents left
him. and maybe
now he hates team
rocket and his parents
.. did anyone think
about that? Oo

fredfredburger722 July 22nd, 2009 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4888635)
well in my opinion..
i think silver's dad
forced him to be a team
rocket member. and maybe he
denied and said he wants to be
a pokemon trainer (pokemon master)
or he might have said he
wants to be a champion.
then maybe giovanni and his
son had a fight about it
and now silver might have
bad relationship with his
dad and his parents left
him. and maybe
now he hates team
rocket and his parents
.. did anyone think
about that? Oo

Did you leave center on? 0_0

Anyways, that's a good theory, but I think that most are right, he was probably an orphan. For the "hates Team Rocket" thing, he probably knows nothing of his past, but just well, hates them because maybe he lost to one of them or something. (And it doesn't matter if he called them weak, because he calls you weak everytime you beat him anyways! :P)

Katachu July 22nd, 2009 10:04 PM

It could be that he and Giovanni just didn't get along.. or his mother took him away from Team Rocket at an early age. Another theory could be that Team Rocket did something to him (like killed his mom) and he's got a Grudge.

Gold and Silver hinted that Silver is indeed Giovanni's son, and specifically stated that Silver hates Team Rocket, so Silver will never join team rocket.

Also, the woman in the white Rocket uniform in the intro always reminds me of Cassidy from the anime...

Kerjo July 22nd, 2009 10:20 PM

Meh, sure he called you weak and lost (but you're the hero so losing isn't allowed so we can't count that), but I'm sure he was strong enough to handle team rocket alone.

I still wonder if he even knows his dad as he has never said anything about his parents.

Percy Thrillington July 22nd, 2009 11:35 PM

But... but... at the end of the game does he not decide to seek redemption because he realises being a trainer is all about loving and caring for your Pokémon?! How could he turn into a Team Rocket member after that, and even if he did would it even make it into the game? I don't think so.

I think Mizaki's theory is pretty spot-on too. Those who haven't read it yet, I advise you to do so.

TheNerdyPotato July 22nd, 2009 11:55 PM

the manga is not made by Game Freak or Nintendo, so it has no real truth to it, its just copyrighted by Nintendo, and the anime is also not made by Nintendo

Sweet Smoochum July 23rd, 2009 2:05 AM

Doesn't the rival dislike Team Rocket? I don't think he's a member. He says they are all weak. I know they say that Giovanni's kid has red hair, but a lot of people have that hair color. (Gardenia, Mars, Misty, Flannery, Roark (Roark is obviously out of the picture because Byron is his father), and Lance. It is possible that Silver could be related to Giovanni, but I honestly don't think he's a Rocket member.

Red July 23rd, 2009 3:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katachu (Post 4888841)
Also, the woman in the white Rocket uniform in the intro always reminds me of Cassidy from the anime...

Actually, that woman is a Rocket Executive. Looks like they changed her clothes to white. (Which is probably due to the fact that they can use more colors per sprite.)
Original Gold/Silver/Crystal Rocket Executive sprites:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/5/56/GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveF.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/6/67/GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveM.png

The original female Rocket Grunt looked a lot like Cassidy, now that you mention it, though.
Too bad that sprite won't be returning. (Cassidy is hot!)
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/4/4c/GSC_Rocket_GruntF.png

Pokestick, good times. July 23rd, 2009 4:02 AM

Well... I'll say he got thrown out/abandoned/kidnapped/ran away as a kid, has no memories of the identity of his parents (giovanni, no doubt to me), and possibly had a traumatic experience in about the same time with Team Rocket, creating a fear and thus hate of the Team. And he then trains and pushes himself to track them down, because he can't stand the thought of being afraid, as it is (to him) a big weakness. And as it is such a hard world he lives in, he understands that he can't afford any weaknesses, he must always be strong.
So he steals a Pokémon, and meets -- Hey! A boy (Gold) is standing in his way!
After some time, Gold (who has a pure heart, it's a cliché, but meh) teaches him that Pokémon is more than combat weapons, they're friends and family, and Silver slowly grows into a more nice person, and then they and Lance defeat Team Rocket once and for all (again)... Well, except for the one grunt in Kanto...
And then he goes to the Indigo Plateu and battles the elite four... And loses, as Gold becomes the Champion...

And... Well... How about that?

Laprasas7 July 23rd, 2009 5:01 AM

Well I think not, because even if they are Related why would he be a Team Rocket Scientist (he is still a kid :D) ?! Maybe it is just coincidence ;)

evking July 23rd, 2009 5:08 AM

Have you ever played a hack called Pokemon Topaz? You are a Team Rocket Exucitive trying to catch all rare pokemon. Your boss, Giovanni, counts on it! You steal money after you beat somebody, take items that don't belong to you, and battle the police. The pokemon in Topaz are made up, so don't be afraid you see one.

Pokestick, good times. July 23rd, 2009 5:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evking (Post 4889767)
Have you ever played a hack called Pokemon Topaz? You are a Team Rocket Exucitive trying to catch all rare pokemon. Your boss, Giovanni, counts on it! You steal money after you beat somebody, take items that don't belong to you, and battle the police. The pokemon in Topaz are made up, so don't be afraid you see one.

... And that has... WHAT to do with the topic???

Laprasas7 July 23rd, 2009 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evking (Post 4889767)
Have you ever played a hack called Pokemon Topaz? You are a Team Rocket Exucitive trying to catch all rare pokemon. Your boss, Giovanni, counts on it! You steal money after you beat somebody, take items that don't belong to you, and battle the police. The pokemon in Topaz are made up, so don't be afraid you see one.

1st of all it doesn't have anything related to this topic, 2nd This isn't even an Original Pokemon game :D


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