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Bamboo July 23rd, 2009 3:11 PM

User Ranks??
 
I don't know if this has been suggested before but I think the forums would be a bit cooler if each user had a user rank picture under his/her name reflecting his/her post count or staff position. Just my opinion but I'm sure that there are some graphic savvy people here whom would be eager to make one and maybe even a competition could be held. And btw I know staff already have them :P

Spinor July 23rd, 2009 3:13 PM

Don't think so because:

  1. The staff is lazy
  2. Serebii stole this first
  3. Members are not unique until they donate *cash cash*
  4. *
  5. 4 is null

.Seth July 23rd, 2009 4:11 PM

Well, if you don't change your user title, and you post a lot, your user title will change depending on how many posts you have.
I forgot the list, but it's in the FAQ.

Also, the userbars are there to separate staff and supporters from the regular members. Regular members don't and shouldn't have supporter benefits.
If regular members had one, that'd be one hell of a page loading time.
You don't realize how long it takes for a dial-up user (not saying I have it, but I've had it, so I know how it is) to load an image like that.
More images means more loading times and server hiccups due to more requests for the images via the member's browser.

See why?

Bamboo July 23rd, 2009 4:52 PM

Yayyyy. Support plox? I think this would bring alot more members to the site

jigglyppuff8 July 23rd, 2009 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 非常に高いレベル (Post 4892150)
Well, if you don't change your user title, and you post a lot, your user title will change depending on how many posts you have.
I forgot the list, but it's in the FAQ.


Also, the userbars are there to separate staff and supporters from the regular members. Regular members don't and shouldn't have supporter benefits.

See why?

Beginning Trainer 0
Trainer 120
Advanced Trainer 500
Gym Leader 800
Elite Four 1500
Pokémon Master 3000
Pokémon-de-Superb 5000
Poké-perfecto 8000
OMG - I Have too Much Time on my Hands! 12000
Nobody will ever have this title. 2147483647

Also, I am against the idea of post-based rank images for the reason in the above quote and that there may be an influx of spammy, not well thought out posts due to this being an incentive to get the highest post count possible.

BTW, I don't see how this would bring in more members. "OOHHH!!! PRETTY IMAGES FOR POSTING! I JOIN NOW!" I just don't see that happening.

Vernikova July 23rd, 2009 7:17 PM

I like the idea as long as it's not too similar to Sppf's system. Who knows? Maybe some people will stop asking for more things to be added such as colored usernames and such.

.Seth July 23rd, 2009 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernikova (Post 4892827)
I like the idea as long as it's not too similar to Sppf's system. Who knows? Maybe some people will stop asking for more things to be added such as colored usernames and such.

Maybe they'll just want more supporter-only benefits because we'd be giving them one and they'll think "Oh Sweet! We got userbars! Maybe they'll give us colored usernames and more PM space too!".
Just saying.

Maybe they won't, but think about it.

Aurafire July 23rd, 2009 7:29 PM

Well, seeing as hardly anyone uses the text-based ranks due to custom usertitles, I think this would be a fine idea. Definitely something that would make PC that much better. =P

seeker July 23rd, 2009 7:30 PM

Well if you were to implement something like this couldn't you at least make it optional?
I don't like ranks myself so i wouldn't use it but i think it's a nice idea for other members. But like i say ranks don't matter that much to me. At least when it's optional it's not trapping members into using the ranks.

Vernikova July 23rd, 2009 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 非常に高いレベル (Post 4892845)
Maybe they'll just want more supporter-only benefits because we'd be giving them one and they'll think "Oh Sweet! We got userbars! Maybe they'll give us colored usernames and more PM space too!".
Just saying.

Maybe they won't, but think about it.

I did. The thing is that images under usernames depicting postcounts aren't benefits for supporters; it doesn't exist on this site. If regular members want supporter benefits then say no but if they want to have something new for all members then there's no reason why it shouldn't be considered for the reason you stated.

.Seth July 23rd, 2009 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernikova (Post 4892876)
I did. The thing is that images under usernames depicting postcounts aren't benefits for supporters; it doesn't exist on this site. If regular members want supporter benefits then say no but if they want to have something new for all members then there's no reason why it shouldn't be considered for the reason you stated.

Hmm, I could've sworn that the userbar images were for supporters and staff only.
Must've just been my imagination.

Gerri Shin July 23rd, 2009 7:38 PM

Here are my thoughts, No. Here's my reasoning, I've been at forums that gave every user a specific badge or iamge under their names based upon post count, etc.. and they all had one thing in common. The staff was very hard to pick out. In my opinion the way things are set up now where Staff/ Supporters have a badge/ image is great because it allows users to easily pick out the staff. I know there have been a few instances already where just the supporters have been confused for staff, I even get a PM now and then from a new member, but that is a small amount of error. Taking that into consideration, can you imagine the amount of confusion there would be is everyone were given a badge?

My answer on this is no, We have a good system that allows us to find and distinguish staff members quickly and easily, this idea has the potential to throw new members into a huge state of confusion and that's not how we operate around here.
This is my take on the matter, thanks for reading.
Gerri

Spinor July 23rd, 2009 7:44 PM

*sigh* I'm neutral and I didn't think that staff would like but oh well.

I would only like it if the post differences are at an adequate semi-parabolic difference. And if it makes SPPF go "ZOMFG WtF?!" XD

Aurafire July 23rd, 2009 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerri Shin (Post 4892894)
Here are my thoughts, No. Here's my reasoning, I've been at forums that gave every user a specific badge or iamge under their names based upon post count, etc.. and they all had one thing in common. The staff was very hard to pick out. In my opinion the way things are set up now where Staff/ Supporters have a badge/ image is great because it allows users to easily pick out the staff. I know there have been a few instances already where just the supporters have been confused for staff, I even get a PM now and then from a new member, but that is a small amount of error. Taking that into consideration, can you imagine the amount of confusion there would be is everyone were given a badge?

My answer on this is no, We have a good system that allows us to find and distinguish staff members quickly and easily, this idea has the potential to throw new members into a huge state of confusion and that's not how we operate around here.
This is my take on the matter, thanks for reading.
Gerri

I have a feeling, if this were indeed to happen, that the staff would make sure that the images were clear in their purpose. Perhaps they could be smaller than the staff and supporter badges we have now?

But I know where you're coming from. I've gotten the occasional PM from someone who thinks I'm on staff =/

Kyle Black July 23rd, 2009 7:53 PM

well this is what i think,
i think members who has
at least 1,000 post or
atleast 5 reputation points
should get a badge, because
i guss making a new staff
member depends on the quilaty
of posts and the number of posts,
and if im not mistaken, i
think people gets reputation
by their posts, so if
a member gets 1,000 posts or
5 reputation points they should
get a badge because when picking
out a new staff it will be
really easy to find, and
i hope you people understand
what i am trying to say...

Vernikova July 23rd, 2009 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 非常に高いレベル (Post 4892881)
Hmm, I could've sworn that the userbar images were for supporters and staff only.
Must've just been my imagination.

I thought I said “images under usernames depicting postcount”. We're both imagining things I guess since this idea hasn't been brought up in a while. Of course it was going to be given to supporters to address what tier they were. What would you give members? A tag stating “Member”.

Of course, images under a person's username isn't as big as perk when compared to more Private Message space, larger avatars, blogs, etc. This idea might not go through but there isn't a valid enough reason to not let it receive a fair appeal by the staff.

Spinor July 23rd, 2009 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4892954)
well this is what i think,
i think members who has
at least 1,000 post or
atleast 5 reputation points
should get a badge, because
i guss making a new staff
member depends on the quilaty
of posts and the number of posts,
and if im not mistaken, i
think people gets reputation
by their posts, so if
a member gets 1,000 posts or
5 reputation points they should
get a badge because when picking
out a new staff it will be
really easy to find, and
i hope you people understand
what i am trying to say...

I'll try, but I'll have to uncolumnize that block of text first @[email protected]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4892954)
well this is what i think, i think members who has at least 1,000 post or atleast 5 reputation points should get a badge, because i guss making a new staff member depends on the quilaty of posts and the number of posts, and if im not mistaken, i think people gets reputation by their posts, so if a member gets 1,000 posts or 5 reputation points they should get a badge because when picking out a new staff it will be really easy to find, and i hope you people understand what i am trying to say...

Ahh, better.

First of all. 1,000 posts is no hard task. Also... 5 Rep points? Every single new member would be capable then o.0' I think you mean to say Rep Pips. 5 of those green things I presume?

Also, this is about ranks on the number of posts, not on certain criteria. For example, you get userbar X when you reach Y Posts.

.Seth July 23rd, 2009 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernikova (Post 4892968)
I thought I said “images under usernames depicting postcount”. We're both imagining things I guess since this idea hasn't been brought up in a while. Of course it was going to be given to supporters to address what tier they were. What would you give members? A tag stating “Member”.

Of course, images under a person's username isn't as big as perk when compared to more Private Message space, larger avatars, blogs, etc. This idea might not go through but there isn't a valid enough reason to not let it receive a fair appeal by the staff.

I understand you said "images under usernames depicting postcount", but it's basically the same exact thing as a userbar/badge, which is an "image under a username". Just because you'd get it by post count doesn't mean it's a completely different thing.

Staff have them because they got a staff position, Supporters have them because they donated. They aren't different.

Of course it's "not as big a perk", but that's just it, It's STILL a perk.
Gerri Shin posted a pretty valid reason if you ask me.

>Feelings< July 23rd, 2009 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4891882)
Don't think so because:
  1. The staff is lazy
  2. Serebii stole this first
  3. Members are not unique until they donate *cash cash*

Shortened to my version.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 非常に高いレベル (Post 4892150)
Well, if you don't change your user title, and you post a lot, your user title will change depending on how many posts you have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4892367)
Beginning Trainer 0
Trainer 120
Advanced Trainer 500
Gym Leader 800
Elite Four 1500
Pokémon Master 3000
Pokémon-de-Superb 5000
Poké-perfecto 8000
OMG - I Have too Much Time on my Hands! 12000
Nobody will ever have this title. 2147483647

This actually isn't that wonderful of a thing at all...
I could easily change my user title to those manually, which would make this whole thing pointless.
The exception to this is "OMG - I Have too Much Time on my Hands!", because that exceeds the character limit of the user title.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4892367)
BTW, I don't see how this would bring in more members. "OOHHH!!! PRETTY IMAGES FOR POSTING! I JOIN NOW!" I just don't see that happening.

Well, not everything being done in this forum needs to have something to do with pouring in new members to this forum. Sometimes, you can just make something to satisfy current members, and just so that it looks more pretty.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerri Shin (Post 4892894)
Here are my thoughts, No. Here's my reasoning, I've been at forums that gave every user a specific badge or iamge under their names based upon post count, etc.. and they all had one thing in common. The staff was very hard to pick out. In my opinion the way things are set up now where Staff/ Supporters have a badge/ image is great because it allows users to easily pick out the staff. I know there have been a few instances already where just the supporters have been confused for staff, I even get a PM now and then from a new member, but that is a small amount of error. Taking that into consideration, can you imagine the amount of confusion there would be is everyone were given a badge?

My answer on this is no, We have a good system that allows us to find and distinguish staff members quickly and easily, this idea has the potential to throw new members into a huge state of confusion and that's not how we operate around here.
This is my take on the matter, thanks for reading.
Gerri

After what I said earlier, it might sound like I support this idea of having user ranks of some sort;
But in reality, I actually agree with Gerri Shin instead.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4892954)
well this is what i think,
i think members who has
at least 1,000 post or
atleast 5 reputation points
should get a badge, because
i guss making a new staff
member depends on the quilaty
of posts and the number of posts,
and if im not mistaken, i
think people gets reputation
by their posts, so if
a member gets 1,000 posts or
5 reputation points they should
get a badge because when picking
out a new staff it will be
really easy to find, and
i hope you people understand
what i am trying to say...

I'll use K9's idea to answer this one...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4892954)
well this is what i think, i think members who has at least 1,000 post or at least 5 reputation points should get a badge, because i guss making a new staff member depends on the quilaty of posts and the number of posts, and if im not mistaken, i think people gets reputation by their posts, so if a member gets 1,000 posts or 5 reputation points they should get a badge because when picking out a new staff it will be really easy to find, and i hope you people understand what i am trying to say...

The number of posts don't judge a new staff - the quality of the posts do normally.
Anyone could easily achieve 1000 posts by posting short, unreadable spam around the community to increase their post count.

And as for reputation, don't even get me started. Reputation is given by normal members too, and is not a deciding factor for anything at all, not even respect or something stupid along the line.
They can be, and they already are given for no real reason at all most of the times, and it'll take most members years to understand that reputation is to judge the quality of a post, not whether you like it or not, so this is not needed either.
Besides, there is already a mechanism for viewing reputation on the upper right side of any person's post.
And besides, 5 reputation points are way to less. I think you even start out with such rep in the first place... 150 rep would be considered noticeable.

Kyle Black July 23rd, 2009 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4892975)
I'll try, but I'll have to uncolumnize that block of text first @[email protected]



Ahh, better.

First of all. 1,000 posts is no hard task. Also... 5 Rep points? Every single new member would be capable then o.0' I think you mean to say Rep Pips. 5 of those green things I presume?

Also, this is about ranks on the number of posts, not on certain criteria. For example, you get userbar X when you reach Y Posts.


yeah... but that
was my opinion about the
1,000 posts and 5 rep pips
but lets turn it into
2,500 posts and atleast
8 rep pips? it also
would be a hard task..

.Seth July 23rd, 2009 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4893031)
yeah... but that
was my opinion about the
1,000 posts and 5 rep pips
but lets turn it into
2,500 posts and atleast
8 rep pips? it also
would be a hard task..

1. You fail to see the way in which you would get the images.
2. 2500 posts isn't that much really. With all the rep parties going around, it's not hard to get 8 rep pips either.

:\

Kyle Black July 23rd, 2009 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >Feelings< (Post 4893030)

The number of posts don't judge a new staff - the quality of the posts do normally.
Anyone could easily achieve 1000 posts by posting short, unreadable spam around the community to increase their post count.

And as for reputation, don't even get me started. Reputation is given by normal members too, and is not a deciding factor for anything at all, not even respect or something stupid along the line.
They can be, and they already are given for no real reason at all most of the times, and it'll take most members years to understand that reputation is to judge the quality of a post, not whether you like it or not, so this is not needed either.
Besides, there is already a mechanism for viewing reputation on the upper right side of any person's post.
And besides, 5 reputation points are way to less. I think you even start out with such rep in the first place... 150 rep would be considered noticeable.

i am a newbie hear
so i dont know much
about it.. i meant to say
5 green thingys.. i thought
it was called rep.. so
i said 5 reps..

Mika July 23rd, 2009 8:42 PM

I'm on another VB site that does the following method

0-100 : Beginning Member
101-500 : Member
501 - 1000 : Senior Member
1001+ : VIP

Beginning Member, Member and Senior Member are pretty much the same pip, only with different text. The VIP member pip is another color all together and NONE of the colors are the same as staff. :3 I like the idea but I'd like the colors to still be easy to pick apart if that's not too much to ask. ^^ You can give a pip without changing the format of the username, yes?

And if you don't know what a Pip is, it's the only term I'm used to with forums. XD; For me, my 'pip' is my 5 Supporter Emblem...thing. XD Hope it wasn't too confusing.

As far as the spam concern goes, have some faith in the staff people, jee willikerz. o3o They do tend to do their jobs people, they don't just sit around picking their noses. [tho I've heard rumours some staff make homemade flamethrowers out of aresol and matches just to watch people freak out... :3] I just recently had an msn party with someone who hit Senior Member on this other VB forum [we dropped it like it was hot yo, word to your...shiny username? XD;] and it was full of fun for completing the challenge. :D I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about the spam, that's why we have people with shiny usernames who walk around with beat sticks. o3o We're safe~

SO HAVE FUN.

>Feelings< July 23rd, 2009 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4893106)
i am a newbie hear
so i dont know much
about it.. i meant to say
5 green thingys.. i thought
it was called rep.. so
i said 5 reps..

It's okay. If you're talking about 5 green thingy, that could be meaning a high amount of rep, but my point remains that reputation can be abused, and so it isn't the right way for judging anything anyways...

And by the ways, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but if you post in columns like this, it gets really painful to read...

Mitchman July 23rd, 2009 8:57 PM

I would love picture based user ranks. I mean it could be for normal members(like the mod sign and supporter sign) but with a picture of sorts...

Kyle Black July 23rd, 2009 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mika (Post 4893113)
I'm on another VB site that does the following method

0-100 : Beginning Member
101-500 : Member
501 - 1000 : Senior Member
1001+ : VIP

Beginning Member, Member and Senior Member are pretty much the same pip, only with different text. The VIP member pip is another color all together and NONE of the colors are the same as staff. :3 I like the idea but I'd like the colors to still be easy to pick apart if that's not too much to ask. ^^ You can give a pip without changing the format of the username, yes?

And if you don't know what a Pip is, it's the only term I'm used to with forums. XD; For me, my 'pip' is my 5 Supporter Emblem...thing. XD Hope it wasn't too confusing.

As far as the spam concern goes, have some faith in the staff people, jee willikerz. o3o They do tend to do their jobs people, they don't just sit around picking their noses. [tho I've heard rumours some staff make homemade flamethrowers out of aresol and matches just to watch people freak out... :3] I just recently had an msn party with someone who hit Senior Member on this other VB forum [we dropped it like it was hot yo, word to your...shiny username? XD;] and it was full of fun for completing the challenge. :D I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about the spam, that's why we have people with shiny usernames who walk around with beat sticks. o3o We're safe~

SO HAVE FUN.

i AGREE completely ;)
and i have another idea aswell..
for all the spamers out there..
i think there should be a some
ranks called-

Spammers Newbie-For 5-10 Deleted Spams
Advanced Spammers-For 11-20 Deleted Spams
Master Spammers-For 21-100 Deleted Spams
Spammers King-For 101+ Deleted Spams

this keep track of the
stupid spammers
it would also help the staff
to keep track of them,infract them
and also ban them..i hope
you people like my idea...

Sajuuk July 24th, 2009 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4893167)
i AGREE completely ;)
and i have another idea aswell..
for all the spamers out there..
i think there should be a some
ranks called-

Spammers Newbie-For 5-10 Deleted Spams
Advanced Spammers-For 11-20 Deleted Spams
Master Spammers-For 21-100 Deleted Spams
Spammers King-For 101+ Deleted Spams

this keep track of the
stupid spammers
it would also help the staff
to keep track of them,infract them
and also ban them..i hope
you people like my idea...

Did you not read this:
Quote:

And by the ways, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but if you post in columns like this, it gets really painful to read...
OT: I think User Rank images are a great idea. Although it does suck up the server space and puts a strain on the server. :( Larger images are annoying and break postbit tables, small images are fine :)

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 1:20 AM

I think it would be great if there were post according ranks.. it makes sense too. I also do not believe that it would make people spam.

⋚Raika⋚ July 24th, 2009 1:44 AM

10 posts= PokéCommunity Member
50 posts= PokéCommunity Advanced Member
100 posts= PokéCommunity Regular
300 posts= PokéCommunity Fan
500 posts= PokéCommunity Advance Fan
1000 posts= PokéCommunity Maniac
1500 posts= PokéCommunity Advanced Maniac
2000 posts= PokéCommunity Addict
3000 posts= PokéCommunity Psycho
5000 posts= PokéCommunity Guru

Copied this from another forum I frequent.

Cid July 24th, 2009 2:32 AM

I think it'd be great to have User Ranks, just make sure that it doesn't make PC lag more frequently.
This way, we'll see if the staff are REALLY doing their anti-spam (according to rule no. 1 in the almighty rules) work.
And it makes sense, too, as Zenus said.

ShinjisLover July 24th, 2009 2:52 AM

It actually sounds like a good idea to me.

I really don't see why people would 'SPAM' just to get the image. It's like saying people would SPAM just to get the set usertitles for the number of posts.

Cherrim July 24th, 2009 3:31 AM

I don't mind the idea. I must admit, I'd be surprised if anyone *actually* used the userbars as a way to identify staff. o_O; And that's the ONLY issue I see with this (aside from people disliking them for not matching their sigs or something *shrug*). Staff and supporters have username colours so they're fairly easy to pick out.

And honestly, if anything, people are already spamming for blogs. Something this insignificant... won't have any bearing on that, seriously. XD;

Ben. July 24th, 2009 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raikiran (Post 4893988)
10 posts= PokéCommunity Member
50 posts= PokéCommunity Advanced Member
100 posts= PokéCommunity Regular
300 posts= PokéCommunity Fan
500 posts= PokéCommunity Advance Fan
1000 posts= PokéCommunity Maniac
1500 posts= PokéCommunity Advanced Maniac
2000 posts= PokéCommunity Addict
3000 posts= PokéCommunity Psycho
5000 posts= PokéCommunity Guru

Copied this from another forum I frequent.

i think people would just spam more to get a higher rank...

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 3:41 AM

Yeah I dunno why this would up the spam. Its already under control a lot so why not have this? Its a fun, cool, and easy way to make the forums better. I just wanna know would it be easier to use Pokemon related things or something else...

Serene Grace July 24th, 2009 3:43 AM

Then to prevent spam, only put about 6 or 7 ranks so there's not too many to get. It would be pointless to SPAM then.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 3:44 AM

I doubt many would spam just to get a new little rank bar >.< That'd be pretty funny xP

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 3:46 AM

I don't like this idea.

Like the others stated, I believe what PC has now is sufficient. And... well, on other forums they use really ugly Pokemon bad quality ones and... ew ;;

But still, without a coloured username, the images would look out of place. D:

Or we could just like, choose our own and do what David does with his image below username thingie. o3o; Which would totally be awesome.

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 3:48 AM

Yes there we go! Custom images for your userbar thing like the Admins do. But who would do it and why ?

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 3:48 AM

Yeah that would be good.. what do you reckon Erica?

Serene Grace July 24th, 2009 3:49 AM

All the staff will still have to vote on this and I don't think all of them would like it. o3o

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 3:52 AM

A supporter privelage at least?

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 3:53 AM

Yes for all tiers perhaps.

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 3:53 AM

idk, I think all supporters should keep what they have automatically; but for it to be changable or something.

... It could just become like a reward a user could only obtain after doing something important. Not for everyone though, that would be over the top :[

And still, only certain people could design it as it'd need to fit PC's standard. Like a request thread in the graphics section or something.

Serene Grace July 24th, 2009 3:55 AM

Or maybe the Graphics staff (or Loki) could do it.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 3:56 AM

I'm sure once one person would do it, lots of others would learn how to as well.

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 3:57 AM

What if just for supporters to change their userbar in a certain way? I mean they could put graphic there and such. And not just for something special people cause then it wouldn't be fair. Hmm issues issues issues

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 3:59 AM

But something special could be like... hosting contests, helping new members - idk, it could vary, like the staff choosing who to give emblems kinda.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 4:00 AM

Yeah that might work Nica.. as long as it was an achievable target for all members and not just the popular & well known ones.

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 4:02 AM

exactly. Popular and well known would be given them more then everybody. If so then wouldn't they be like emblems and wouldn't it just be moot? I was thinking maybe for those who got over 5000 posts and tier 2 like blogs.

Cid July 24th, 2009 4:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse Nica (Post 4894431)
But something special could be like... hosting contests, helping new members - idk, it could vary, like the staff choosing who to give emblems kinda.

And emblems being mentioned made me think that giving out emblems of post count user rank instead would more or less be the same as giving user ranks in the fashion that a PC supporter would get their respective badge.
Blog ability can also be considered as a user rank, after all.

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 4:04 AM

No but seem that's making it into a supporter-type thing.

You want this to be global.. no? @ Todoroki Is.

No Enishi, it's after doing like.. certain things - not automatically spamming or donating.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 4:05 AM

I think if this ability is made, it needs to be versatile enough to be accesible to a large majority of the members on PC.

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 4:07 AM

While I do want it to be global not that global. Like possibly if they did do it globabally maybe a birthday thing or one for spending news years here or a christmas one. Like special events on PC or such.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 4:10 AM

Not sure I'd agree with that Todorki.. I think a lot of people wouldn't want to spend event days like Christmas online =/ I know I wouldn't.
I think it should be a supporters thing.. possibly ;;

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 4:14 AM

You're forgetting the point that a member created this thread.

Kazukii July 24th, 2009 4:15 AM

True Nica =/ Well I wouldn't mind it being available to all, but I reckon it would take some work to make sure everyone had appropriate images under their names & the right demensions etc. I reckon there'd have to be an approval thread. Like the name change thread.

Cid July 24th, 2009 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse Nica (Post 4894453)
No but seem that's making it into a supporter-type thing.

No Enishi, it's after doing like.. certain things - not automatically spamming or donating.

Yeah, I think I get the concept you're saying now.
I guess those other things like hosting contests and helping new members could be considered as user ranks like supporters, but I'm fine with these things being emblems already (most of them are, aren't they?).
BTW, I just quoted your statement because it reminded me of emblems. XD
I've no problems with it being exclusive to PC supporters and staff, either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenus (Post 4894477)
Not sure I'd agree with that Todorki.. I think a lot of people wouldn't want to spend event days like Christmas online =/ I know I wouldn't.
I think it should be a supporters thing.. possibly ;;

Some people celebrate part of their holidays here, though, and I'm pretty sure there was already a "New Year of 2008" or something sort of emblem. And as I said, I've no problems with it being a supporter thing, since it's not illogical anyway (even though I'm no supporter...yet?).

Sharada July 24th, 2009 4:20 AM

I think this isn't such a great idea after all. We shouldn't copy other forum features let's just make PokeCommunity much more unique than the other forums. This is just an Opinion.
And let's just wait for the approval of our dear staff members.

ruby July 24th, 2009 5:01 AM

All I can see this doing is exacerbating the idea that postcount equals your e-peen size;

People competing to have a bigger postcount is dumb enough already, we don't need to bring 'ranks' into the situation.

Percy Thrillington July 24th, 2009 5:02 AM

I think having user ranks for sets amounts of posts would be cool. Anybody who disagrees by saying people will spam to get them, or newbies might confuse members with staff need to come up with better reasons, seriously. Most people are already spamming for the sake of acquiring a blog, new user ranks aren't going to make much of a difference. And as for the other reason someone brought up... I forgot the staff also have coloured, bold and italic usernames?

Also, to those of whom who are saying it would make PC a copy of Serebii: Serebii was not the first forum to come up with the idea of user ranks.

But yeah, I think it'd be pretty awesome, and those who oppose it should really give a proper reason as to why user ranks shouldn't be made available on the forum.

Serene Grace July 24th, 2009 5:31 AM

Maybe the best option is just to make is text. That way, no members would spam to get a new text as their user rank.

Also, I'm up for the image idea but only if It's for supporters. We paid to help the community so we shoudl get added perks like this. Also, you may make it a priviledge, once a user has surpassed x amount of posts. Don't tell them though, so they don't know what it is and they can't spam.

Bamboo July 24th, 2009 5:42 AM

For all the people saying that there would be too much spam or that it would be hard to distinguish staff from members look at it this way. Serebii does it and its pretty easy to tell whos staff when it say Sppf Staff right there... And the entire mods is to keep spam to a minimum so anyone who was caught spamming would just get infracted. I took the liberty of taking these images of another site that utilizes theses userranks. I am aware that this site is about Runescape. See how easy it is to distinguish between members who have only posted and members who have won special awards? The site has about 40 or so userranks and thought they have only been up for a month they have 2000 members and the spam is at an extrememly low level.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8794/usr1.png http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/usr1.png/1/w155.png

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/50/usr2.png http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/usr2.png/1/w161.png

The Darkest Gale July 24th, 2009 5:48 AM

ok I couldn't be bothered reading after the 3rd page lol but this would kinda mean we wouldn't get to have our own unique little user thing like
its the summer holidays 8D
we would be the same as many people =/ maybe under the user thing

sorry but I actually forgotten the name for the user

Kyle Black July 24th, 2009 6:02 AM

well.. instead of us having the long conversation about it, why don't we let the staff members decide? or why don't we all get permission from some staff member and put up a voting poll and decide it ourselves?

Archer July 24th, 2009 6:08 AM

Guys, if you really want this, you can just switch to your default usertitle. There are a number of 'Ranks' for your postcount already specified there.

Honestly, I don't think someone needs a ambiguous banner to tell people how 'important' they are when they have a post count clearly available. That, the way they post, and to a certain extent, their rep is going to give a more accurate assessment of a perspn's character.

Seriously, if you really want to stand out, then donate and get yourself a nice blue badge.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Black (Post 4894833)
well.. instead of us having the long conversation about it, why don't we let the staff members decide? or why don't we all get permission from some staff member and put up a voting poll and decide it ourselves?

That's a fair observation, but we might as well discuss it, giving out ideas for or against it, and then the staff either takes it on board to consider, or decides against it and closes the thread. Until such time, it's safe to discuss it amongst ourselves.

The Darkest Gale July 24th, 2009 6:08 AM

that is a very good idea XD lol nobody thought about that

Sajuuk July 24th, 2009 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 4894853)
Guys, if you really want this, you can just switch to your default usertitle. There are a number of 'Ranks' for your postcount already specified there.

We're not talking about the text usertitles here, we are talking about adding a little picture to each rank that would accompany the usertitles.

Pazuzu July 24th, 2009 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spey (Post 4895040)
We're not talking about the text usertitles here, we are talking about adding a little picture to each rank that would accompany the usertitles.

There's some ugly green forum that has those, you should totally give it a try. :)

Kyle Black July 24th, 2009 7:03 AM

hey is it just me? i saw whoever has 6 green thingys has there usernames on pink. so it worked..
so i guss whoever gets 6 or more green thingys gets there username on pink.

Gerri Shin July 24th, 2009 7:06 AM

Actually that's currently a tier 5 and 6 supporter perk, also, it's unknown if it will be permanent.

Ho-Oh July 24th, 2009 7:09 AM

... Adding to Gerri, um, it's not permament. XD;

And only for a selected few o3o;

Spinor July 24th, 2009 7:59 AM

DAMN IT PEOPLE! You gave a dream about this last night! >:O

Fist of all. Shiny cool user bars WILL pick up the hell load of spam.

However, how about counting a few 32 x 32 pictures that accumulate depending on the post amount. Almost like the rep system does, except this will actually be controllable a bit more >.>

Mitchman July 24th, 2009 8:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4895286)
DAMN IT PEOPLE! You gave a dream about this last night! >:O

Fist of all. Shiny cool user bars WILL pick up the hell load of spam.

However, how about counting a few 32 x 32 pictures that accumulate depending on the post amount. Almost like the rep system does, except this will actually be controllable a bit more >.>

Yeah that is a good idea but it goes against your lulz spam thing. Seriously its not going to be worse then the spam we get for blogs.(totally going to stop here cause someone will surely use me and my 6000 posts in 1 and a half year as a hipocrasy thing)

Lunamewtwo July 27th, 2009 7:30 AM

Sounds like a wonderful idea to me:) Would bring a little uniqueness to the forums and might even increase user activity :o

Artonkn July 27th, 2009 8:32 AM

I love the idea.


However i don't want it to be such as 'Begining Trainer' or 'Pokemon Master'


maybe like:


0-50: Newbie
51-100: (I don't know!!!)
101-150: Regular


and then i can't think of others...


but ye i love the idea

.Seth July 27th, 2009 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunamewtwo (Post 4907723)
Sounds like a wonderful idea to me:) Would bring a little uniqueness to the forums and might even increase user activity :o

Yep, totally. (b'')b
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artonkn (Post 4907910)
I love the idea.


However i don't want it to be such as 'Begining Trainer' or 'Pokemon Master'


maybe like:


0-50: Newbie
51-100: (I don't know!!!)
101-150: Regular


and then i can't think of others...


but ye i love the idea

You could just set whatever you want instead. :D
Also, you fail to see the original idea of this thread. :|

I Laugh at your Misfortune! July 27th, 2009 9:04 AM

I think it would be okay, but they would have to be very different to the staff/supporter userbars, I think, otherwise they lose their impact if you know what I mean...If I use Zenus as an example, maybe you could have a small badge here:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/alipeewee/Untitled-2.jpg

Like, you could start with a red/blue badge, then get yellow, then gold/silver, then crystal, then ruby/sapphire...and so on and so on.

Cherrim July 27th, 2009 9:09 AM

...are the rank bars really that striking? o_O I have to admit I don't even notice them. Is it really such a big perk to supporters (and staff, I guess) that members wouldn't be able to have it? Or is it something that needs to be so distinguishable to avoid confusion?

I've never, ever paid much attention to them so maybe I just look at them differently. (Heck, I dropped mine in favour of random text. XD)

Nick July 27th, 2009 11:07 AM

One of the question that came to mind when I was reading through the thread was, if this were to happen, what color would the actual image be? It can't be close to the supporter/staff colors, and already there's some problems going on between how close the supporter and moderator color. Since the staff images are already the basic colors, it's hard to really get past that unless you choose to make it something like pink or something. I think that'll eventually lead to another person bringing up that member group color since they'd have a set titlebar color and all... I dunno. I just can see this becoming a hassle. :(

Spinor July 27th, 2009 11:57 AM

It would be possible for them to be a similar color. However, the size would have to be different. Like I said, a 64x64.

Or we can go Serebii-like and if someone is supporter or staff they don't get a rank.

MegaSH8 July 27th, 2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4892367)
Beginning Trainer 0
Trainer 120
Advanced Trainer 500
Gym Leader 800
Elite Four 1500
Pokémon Master 3000
Pokémon-de-Superb 5000
Poké-perfecto 8000
OMG - I Have too Much Time on my Hands! 12000
Nobody will ever have this title. 2147483647

Also, I am against the idea of post-based rank images for the reason in the above quote and that there may be an influx of spammy, not well thought out posts due to this being an incentive to get the highest post count possible.

BTW, I don't see how this would bring in more members. "OOHHH!!! PRETTY IMAGES FOR POSTING! I JOIN NOW!" I just don't see that happening.

Those above are basically them right?

So what's the need of having more?!?! LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunamewtwo (Post 4907723)
Sounds like a wonderful idea to me:) Would bring a little uniqueness to the forums and might even increase user activity :o

Thumbs down bro.... It wouldn't be persuading.

Nick July 27th, 2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4908863)
It would be possible for them to be a similar color. However, the size would have to be different. Like I said, a 64x64.

It being a smaller size... then what's the point of it at all? :|

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4908863)
Or we can go Serebii-like and if someone is supporter or staff they don't get a rank.

DURP. Or not.

fenyx4 July 27th, 2009 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenus (Post 4894376)
I doubt many would spam just to get a new little rank bar >.< That'd be pretty funny xP

Hilarious. :laugh: Spamming just to get tiny little pixels that you won't even be able to see if your computer crashes or PC is offline for maintenance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 4894335)
I don't mind the idea. I must admit, I'd be surprised if anyone *actually* used the userbars as a way to identify staff. o_O; And that's the ONLY issue I see with this (aside from people disliking them for not matching their sigs or something *shrug*). Staff and supporters have username colours so they're fairly easy to pick out.

And honestly, if anything, people are already spamming for blogs. Something this insignificant... won't have any bearing on that, seriously. XD;

Um...I actually do use the userbars to identify staff. :) I'm using the Seeds of Platinum forum style right now, so regarding username colors (don't know if it applies to other styles): regular members are navy blue, supporters are light blue, and staff corresponds with their staff position. It would be hard occasionally to tell regular members from supporters with that slight color difference using blue.

I don't really pay attentions to username colors, but I definitely pay attention to username bars. IMO, they're that noticeable. That's the easiest way for me to immediately tell how much a supporter has donated, or the position that a staff member as.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4894424)
What if just for supporters to change their userbar in a certain way? I mean they could put graphic there and such. And not just for something special people cause then it wouldn't be fair. Hmm issues issues issues

I agree that this feature (if implemented) would be awesome, and would help make PC more enjoyable for current members. Granted, it probably won't rake more members in, but it's still a nice cosmetic touch. I mean, people don't usually get Mozilla Firefox just for the ability to change the skins (I think), but it doesn't hurt to be able to choose your color of preference to be displayed while you're browsing...
Regarding supporters, I don't agree that this feature should just be restricted to them, but I'll consent that they at least deserve an additional feature to add to the incentive for donating. Being able to type in a custom rank (i.e., Gym Leader to Head Honcho, etc.) would be a nice bonus for supporters. I know you can technically do this with the usertitles, but I feel those are reserved for giving an introduction of oneself alongside one's avatar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamboo (Post 4894745)
For all the people saying that there would be too much spam or that it would be hard to distinguish staff from members look at it this way. Serebii does it and its pretty easy to tell whos staff when it say Sppf Staff right there... And the entire mods is to keep spam to a minimum so anyone who was caught spamming would just get infracted. I took the liberty of taking these images of another site that utilizes theses userranks. I am aware that this site is about Runescape. See how easy it is to distinguish between members who have only posted and members who have won special awards? The site has about 40 or so userranks and thought they have only been up for a month they have 2000 members and the spam is at an extrememly low level.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8794/usr1.png http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/usr1.png/1/w155.png

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/50/usr2.png http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/usr2.png/1/w161.png

Awesome pics! We could switch the icons to actual Gym Badges and Frontier Symbols/Commemorative Plates, and have the ranks typed out (supporters get custom ranks).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 4894853)
Guys, if you really want this, you can just switch to your default usertitle. There are a number of 'Ranks' for your postcount already specified there.

Honestly, I don't think someone needs a ambiguous banner to tell people how 'important' they are when they have a post count clearly available. That, the way they post, and to a certain extent, their rep is going to give a more accurate assessment of a perspn's character.

Seriously, if you really want to stand out, then donate and get yourself a nice blue badge.

EDIT:

That's a fair observation, but we might as well discuss it, giving out ideas for or against it, and then the staff either takes it on board to consider, or decides against it and closes the thread. Until such time, it's safe to discuss it amongst ourselves.

Switching usertitles to the default ranks won't do anything, as all of them except the last one can be typed in regardless of post count, as someone said earlier. Then you'd have to look at the post count again anyway. With user ranks, they could serve as a legit indication of your post count rank.

I'll agree that rep is a slight indication of your posts, but it's hard to assess post quality simply by post number. Post number could be categorized alongside reputation in determining your post quality (someone could spam just as someone could improperly use and abuse the rep system).
And, in my experience, there've been a few members who I hardly ever see posting in some threads. I'm not going to search another member's posts (who I hardly see) just to see whether he/she has good or bad post quality or whether he/she spams a lot. This feature could slightly curtail spamming (I'll explain why later).

Furthermore, I doubt all the supporters and staff will want to switch their usertitle to indicate their rank. Why should regular members have to? (I'm referring to active members) I know I don't have that many posts, but I don't try to spam or maliciously neg-rep others (both of which puts more work on staff) and I actually try to put quality in my posts. A lot of times I'm just looking at threads where it wouldn't seem appropriate for me to respond anyway.
A random person could easily join, donate $10, get the privileged feature, and spam as opposed to another who joins, is unable (not refusing) to donate, doesn't get the privilege, but puts quality posts, doesn't spam or mal neg-rep, and attempts to assist other members with hacks, new forum styles, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screw the rules, I have green hair! (Post 4908058)
I think it would be okay, but they would have to be very different to the staff/supporter userbars, I think, otherwise they lose their impact if you know what I mean...If I use Zenus as an example, maybe you could have a small badge here:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/alipeewee/Untitled-2.jpg

Like, you could start with a red/blue badge, then get yellow, then gold/silver, then crystal, then ruby/sapphire...and so on and so on.

Well, little badge icons would be nice (and put less strain on the PC server) and I guess you could hover over them with the rank...but I think an actual additional username would at least be more noticeable and recognize people with actual quality posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 4908087)
...are the rank bars really that striking? o_O I have to admit I don't even notice them. Is it really such a big perk to supporters (and staff, I guess) that members wouldn't be able to have it? Or is it something that needs to be so distinguishable to avoid confusion?

Again, I think userbars really are quite striking; I think they complement the username area nicely... It's a decent perk, I would imagine... I figure many supporters would like to keep their userbars rather than having to edit their usertitle or sig to show they've played a part in keeping PC alive...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abercrombie (Post 4908615)
One of the question that came to mind when I was reading through the thread was, if this were to happen, what color would the actual image be? It can't be close to the supporter/staff colors, and already there's some problems going on between how close the supporter and moderator color. Since the staff images are already the basic colors, it's hard to really get past that unless you choose to make it something like pink or something. I think that'll eventually lead to another person bringing up that member group color since they'd have a set titlebar color and all... I dunno. I just can see this becoming a hassle. :(

If this idea hasn't been used for any of the current userbars, I'd suggest either black or dark gray, no matter what rank a member/supporter/staff is at. You'd have your rank's corresponding logo at the side, too. Hopefully, this would distinguish User Ranks from Supporter Tiers and Staff Positions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4892367)
Beginning Trainer 0
Trainer 120
Advanced Trainer 500
Gym Leader 800
Elite Four 1500
Pokémon Master 3000
Pokémon-de-Superb 5000
Poké-perfecto 8000
OMG - I Have too Much Time on my Hands! 12000
Nobody will ever have this title. 2147483647

Also, I am against the idea of post-based rank images for the reason in the above quote and that there may be an influx of spammy, not well thought out posts due to this being an incentive to get the highest post count possible.

BTW, I don't see how this would bring in more members. "OOHHH!!! PRETTY IMAGES FOR POSTING! I JOIN NOW!" I just don't see that happening.

For this User Rank feature, I think it should be set to be an optional feature for all members. Again, supporters can customize the User Rank. For people who are posting spam just for higher User Ranks, when the staff identifies a spammer while monitoring the boards, they can simply permanently disable said User Rank feature and revoke the option from the spammer(s). This way, the spammer(s) won't have a User Rank at all, and they will have wasted their time posting spam anyway (which I think is a befitting punishment and lesson for spammers).

As for the actual ranks, maybe we could throw in 'Frontier Brain', 'Poke-Maniac', 'Pokemon Researcher' and 'Pokemon Champion' in as well...? The 3 right after 'Pokemon Master' seem slighty uninspired from the Pokemon franchise...
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In conclusion, I'd really like this feature for all members. If only icons can be permitted, I'll still be grateful we even have such an option. :) I'll reiterate that if another 'perk' for supporters is needed, custom ranks could be in place. I hope to see User Ranks in the near future!

Xyo July 27th, 2009 5:45 PM

Oh man, the badges would be sweet.
Maybe you could change the shape in your User CP?

~Xyo~

jasonresno July 27th, 2009 6:05 PM

I think this is an admittedly cool idea but we already have ways to distinguish people for their acheivments:

We have reputation and the pips that go along with it.
We have emblems for members who distinguish themselves in certain things.
We have supporter banners as well for those able to pay to help the site.
We have post counts.


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