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Pokemon: Pedriot Forest [Alpha 1 released!]
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Introduction
First of all, I am restarting my hack, but I'm actually working as hard as I can this time. Secondly, I'm actually using a Fire Red ROM now. Please leave constructive criticism. Plot Okay, you heard it before, you're gonna hear it again. Team Flora is a bunch of "Pokemon Gangstas" (Like Team Rocket), and they want to dominate the world (Like Team Rocket), except with Grass Pokemon and the fact that they want the world to be lush with vegetation, You're some kid in the town of Lushville, where a great Evergreen stands. No one knows how or why it is there, they just like to gaze at it. Apparently it has a hole shaped like a distinct stone that is found somewhere in the Delta region. Today is a random day that is NOT your birthday, but Professor PINE's, and he wants to celebrate by giving you and your friend each a Pokemon, choices are Leefin, Wateddy, and Firoy. Of course, the younger picks first, and you happen to be a day younger than your friend, both of you pick your Pokemon and your friend rushes out the door. When you go out, you hear a familiar cry for HELP, and realize it is your friend's, and you see two Flora Rookies, who are trying to steal your friend's Pokemon, and you battle them and realize that you have to defeat them while collecting the eight badges (aka, fulfilling your dream). More about Green Tree: Spoiler:
Features - 386 Fakemon (made up my mind) - New Overworlds (I hope so) - New maps and tiles - New region and team - Lugia and Ho-oh are two grass legendaries that are obtainable after the Elite 4 - Some new key items and items (Jade, Pedriot, Scary Mask) - New Big Region Map Sprites Here are the sprites I have so far: Spoiler:
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MISC I've already learned to do a decent amount of scripting, and my spriting's decent (I think). My mapping is also improving fast. "Team" so far: - 5qwerty (a.k.a me) -Spriting, Mapping, Basic Scripter (near moderate), Tile Maker (you get the point) - Ziglef - big help with Advanced Scripting - Cartercr - Trainer Spriting Progress: Iron Cave Entrance - Done Zaronic City - 90% Iron Cave - 33% After all this, I can release the first Alpha/Beta Special thanks to: Chesu, for teaching me how to sprite. Deigoisawesome, for that XSE tut. Hackmew, for great tools. Baro, for the inspiration. Phantom., for telling me how to insert scripts into A-Map Lu-Ho, for making A-Map What I should have in my 2nd Release: Spoiler:
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Okay, Here's my plan: 1. Finish Mapping, Scripting, anything that has to do with maps. (trainers, etc.) for the entire game 2. Finish spriting the whole "Kanto" Pokemon and their evos 3. Do some sprites and icons every so often 4. Finish all Pokemon Sprites 5. ICON (darn) And Also, I won't be changing spearow and fearow in the first ALPHA. Download: Attachment 48836 REPORT ANY BUGS IMMEDIATELY TO ME! If it goes white on you, go to the fourth page. Now I'm recruiting a mapper. The reasons are as follows: 1. I suck at mapping 2. I'm obsessed with spriting 3. I don't have time to do all three. So PM me if you want to help. Only one spot available!!! IF YOU LIKE THIS HACK, VOTE FOR IT IN HACK OF THE WEEK! |
wow these are cool I have been working on some pokemon too but never got around to digitiseing them or whatever it is called
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Yeah, it's pretty hard, but it's pretty easy once you get used to it.
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Umm.... this section is not for asking for names/ ideas.
You need to work on the story more, make it more interesting, so it can hook up people who need a good hack. Quote:
open "a-map", go to "settings" > "Choose script editor" and choose whatever script editor you use. ;) Good luck with this~ |
Thanks and I was just wondering if anyone had any other suggestions for the name.
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I have added some Screenshots.
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I know that you said you are working on this by yourself, but if you need some help on mapping and spriting, I can definitely give you a hand.
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I might need a little help with mapping, but not right now. The only thing I need help in is scripting for just the beginning. Spriting, I could do that, but the progress would go much slower if it was just me, so maybe spriting.
Added more screenshots. |
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Anyways I had an idea. These fakemon are really good, so why not go ahead and replace the entire pokedex? I can give you some if you want, and we could just replace the whole thing. |
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, and ziglef's already helping me with Advanced Scripting, so I'll give you my 'Pokedex,' and we'll get started.
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Awsome, heres Ratoxic for you.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/cartercr/Ratoxic.jpg |
What??? You're gonna have to put a LOT more effort to make a Pokemon! Put more effort in it! Here's where your problems are.
1. Use some random colour 2. Not facing Pokemon 3. No shading But if you were making a real animal, that'd be really good if you added shading. If you're good at it, why don't you make OW's? |
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You need to do the shading, and it doesn't really look pokemon-ish. It looks like a plain rat to me. Every fakemon must have a special idea within it. And, 5qwerty, i think i saw this hack before, you revived it, hm? You need something more, it lacks something... |
Scripts? 'Cause Ziglef's helping me do advanced scripting, I'm doing everything Else. New tiles? I'm working one that, Storyline? It will improve throughout the work season.
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Maps and good screenshots of them, good hero o/ws, TS screen,etc. would be perfect. |
Dude, I got lazy in April and everything got messed up. I just restarted a few days ago, and more better Screenshots are coming, and I'm not good at O/W's and Title Screen will have to wait.
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Ok, this was harsh, but its the truth. Maybe you started out a hack too early, why don't you learn advancing hacking? Select a hacking skill, and go serious with it. I selected mapping. |
I'm pretty good at spriting, those at the top need a little editing, but that's all.
Truthfully, I'm pretty smart, and I can manage to be an all-around hacker. So stop your ranting and wait. |
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Oh sorry, I didn't mean to offend you!
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I'll get on the OW's. Just tell me wat u want.
EDIT: Ratoxic is fixed, I did some recoloring and set it to Rattata's Pallet. http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/cartercr/Ratoxic-1.png |
Thanks cartercr, but it's better off just me doing the spriting, it could turn out bad if there are two spriters with different skills.
For the OW, do whatever you want, just make the character look AWESOME. Thanks. |
Sprite Above: Er...please make the sprite face southwest because it looks very 2d if you ask me.
It looks okay, but I REALLY Suggest putting real Pokemon in too; unless you're REALLY imaginative, making 386 Fakemon is near impossible. |
Okay, I made Grace (3rd gym leader)
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/cartercr/Grace.png |
Oh, thanks! I'll put you up on the Team list, you could be Trainer Spriter.
I'll add some finishing touches. Thanks. |
Sorry for the double post, but could a moderator move this to the progressing hacks topic?
Oh yeah, added more screenshots, and a video's coming. |
To be frank, the fakemons are really weird, they need more shading, and each one with a special idea. The fakemons i see in the screenshots are simple and like 2-d, and that is really bad.
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Yeah, when I compared my Fakemon to the real Pokemon, they looked really stupid. So after a while I'm going to fix those.
I'm going to change the fire starter into another Pokemon, this is because the fire starter right now sucks. |
Nice job 5qwerty I like this game I wish good luck
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Thanks for the support, and my new Fire Starter is a live ember that has flesh called FIROY.
Here it is.http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/4_back11.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/4_fron11.png |
Your sprites could use some work, especially with shading. If you haven't already then I suggest making a thread for them so others can help. But with the shading think of where the light is coming from. In pokemon games it comes from the top left. So the lighter shades should be towards the light and so on. And lastly try to round the shading. On the second fakemon the shading is in straight lines which isn't how it should be for this case.
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I'm working on those later.
Here is my priority list: 1. Work on Scripts and Maps - Progress: 85% 2. Spriting and Icons - Progress: 55% 3. Debugging/Fixing - ??? But right now I'm working on spriting, since Scripts and maps are practically done. The "revamping" of sprites go in fixing. New Charmeleon: http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/5_back10.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/5_fron10.png 1. Could someone please comment? 2. Could a mod move this to Progressing Hacks? |
Personally I prefer the second fire type. Though the idea of a fire/electric type was kind of cool.
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Constructive Criticism -
BAD hack name . HORRIBLE Fakemons . (I know they are tough to make but why make them when there are already better ones . ) |
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Thanks for the very "constructive" critism, but I don't feel any better. @cartercr That magnet thing was actually a fire-steel type, I mean drawing it on paper was too easy, but then spriting it is harder. And are you done the trainers? Sorry for the DP, but I added "Rattata."http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/19_bac10.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/19_fro10.png I just have to finish Raticate's back. And could a moderator please move this to progressing hacks? |
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BAD hack name . Try "INSERT HACK NAME HERE" HORRIBLE Fakemons . Try "INSERT ADVICE ON HOW TO MAKE THEM BETTER" seriously, we don't just want to hear the criticism, we want to hear how to make it better. |
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Thank both of you for the support, it makes me wanna... *sobs*
Hey, like the updates? |
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They just did, you need four screenshots of distinct change.
EDIT: OH yeah, does anyone know how to change the pallete in UNLZ GBA, because I'm trying to upload a Rattata with a Raticate's Pallete |
You could recolor the rattata and then insert it into the game. But that would change all the Rattata's. Is that what you want?
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Because I made my original Rabit (rattata) from Raticate's pallete, because that's how it was planned on my paperwork.
Then I tryed to insert it into UNLZ GBA, with Raticate's Pallete offset, but it just screwed up. I was also wondering if there was anyway to change the pallete of a Pokemon, let's say, that Paper Mario Redux, how can people change the pallete of a Pokemon? (because Mario has blue, goomba has brown, etc) |
Yes.. -BUMP-
Added a new video, about the Team Flora Event that is happening in SPOOKY WOODS CAVE. There was something I didn't fix at the end, such as the Person ID, and a msgbox. But enjoy! This video also means that my Beta/Alpha/Whatever it is is coming soon! :) Just need to: 1. Investigate and fix why my hidesprite 0x7 is not working 2. Sprite 10 more battle pics and 11 more backsprites 3. Icon (darnit) 32 more Icon frames. |
Your Scripts are cool, but you could try improving your Maps, as they look quite empty. And in case you haven't realized, you forgot to change "Team Rocket Goon" to "Team Flora Goon". And by the way, your Fakemon are kinda cool too. Good luck with this, Qwerty.
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It's not that I forgot, it's that A-Trainer won't let me, thanks for the compliments, and I'll try to improve on my maps.
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I've got some help for you...
1. In the hidesprite script, you have a setflag so that the event doesn't repeat itself, right? Change the person ID of whoever you're hiding to the number of the flag you've set. This also works for making people in a certain area appear or disappear. You could have somebody blocking the road, set their person ID to 801, and when you come back through with the first badge they should be gone! Or, set a flag early on and have people with that person ID. They'll be invisible until you clear the flag. 2. You can edit pallets with APE (Advanced Pallet Editor) but you should be able to just click the little box in unLZ that says "Import Pallet". Be sure you have the boxes "Automatically Fix Pointers" and "Abort if not enough room" checked as well, or you could really screw your ROM. Oh, and the first color in your pallet is always the background color. 3. The problem with the sprites isn't the shading, it's the sprites themselves. They're a little... poorly drawn. The second evo of the fire starter is great, except for where you tried to make his legs crossed. You should've just had him standing with them kind of spread. Hope this helps, good luck with the hack! |
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2. I'm probably not gonna do any of that for a while. I tried something off another Tutorial, and my game froze everytime I went to that Pokemon! 3. Yeah, I know they aren't the best, but I'm trying my best (or just not putting enough effort in). But they're not the worst either. Thanks for constructive critism, and I'll try the flag thingy! |
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No, I'll test it out, because I only the Gary2 to appear in a script. (Cry for Help) So it shouldn't be that hard.
Thanks for the tips! EDIT: Wow! Thanks, it actually worked, I just used a useless flag and it worked. Now only few more things: Major: Spriting Minor: Something messed with tiles in LUSHVILLE, Team Flora Stuff, and the Gym. Wow, Beta/Alpha 1 is coming fast! |
Fringnets sprite is pretty awesome...Also I really like Maskegs (sp?) sprite...Good Luck.
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Thanks, but Firgnet's not in anymore, it's Firoy. Can't wait huh, a download will be out soon.
PS. I'm uploading videos to youtube right now. |
Haha, added some videos that have some errors. They are as listed:
1. Pokedex does not disappear (who cares?) 2. Can't run in Scarlet City (why?) 3. Obtained 0 Great Balls (fixed) 4. Cut Human Trees (fixed) 5. Did not change Spearow's Sprites or Dirtramp's Back Sprites (fixed 6. Top Vinnie does no disappear (Pre-Beta 5/fixed) 7. No Playsong in Help script (fixed) |
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But Uh I have these two sprites from Way long ago. Its a fakemon called Kungion (a half fight/grass onion ) you can have it if you like..jus credit http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/QuilavasMaster/Kungion.png http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/QuilavasMaster/SKungion.png |
Maybe I can use for a trainer:
MUTATED MAN [insert name here] would like to battle. Also, on the videos, the audio's coming late due to frame skip. |
Yes! Updated some new sprites, now only have 5 back sprites and 3 front sprites to go!
Oh yeah, does anyone know how to insert icons by using wordpad and paint, because it just takes too long to edit the icons in icon editor. Also, my game won't "boot up." Everytime I open up my rom in VBA, it goes to a blank screen, does anyone know why? |
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Yeah, I tried that, but it doesn't work.
Also, some videos are coming in about an hour. |
You can try and make a different FR Rom as your base.
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Oh, okay. Thanks, and do you know about the icon thing, because I really hate using Icon editor.
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Added three new videos, and this from first post (please read):
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lol the pokemon look funny. in a good way... is the elite four member ariel a guy or girl?
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Ariel is a girl, and the Pokemon look funny because I am not the best spriter.
Hey, does anyone know how to add a Poll??? |
Juiceys.
LOL. That's so cute. The fakemon could be better, but.. I can't sprite at all, so I can't really criticize. Overall, the idea is great, and I hope you go through with this hack. (: |
Okay here is Doug. I was having a little trouble finding inspiration.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/cartercr/Doug.jpg |
the grass pokmon made me laugh in a good way his dance was funny the magnic pokmon was by far your best and your worst would be the water starter it looks like a copy of the grass starter and is it a water bear I cant rele tel what animal it is :P if you need any help with fakemon spriting give me a PM I also made my share of fakemon :D over all looks pretty good maps could be better but there okay so not a big problem
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@Xseduction: Yeah, I know they aren't the best, but they aren't the worst either, feel free to give a good crit
@cartercr: That looks a bit...er...plain....anyway, I probably won't be using a sprite replacement for doug in the first alpha/beta/whatever @narutoactor: Yeah, but how could you think that the magnet was the best? I thought it was the worst? And as I have said before, I am going to modify my sprites to look better. Also, does anyone know how to add a poll? because I somehow cannot and it is very crucial to my first release. The question is: Should I do the Icons? 1. Yes, it makes the game feel more like a Pokemon game. Make the icons as you release. 2. No, it takes too long, maybe later. Make the icons after all your sprites, etc. 3. You know, there is a way to do it with paint (please post). |
theres a way to do it with pain Proram RHXP rom hacking xp by witch
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So I have to use RPG maker XP?
Anyway, now there is a new hero, *adds video* And does anybody have a new Fakemon idea? |
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Leaftra, the Forest Pokemon. Known as the forest pokemon, it will quickly rush to any person in need and assist them. If attacked, it will quickly Razor Leaf the opponet away. Moveset: Slash Earthquake Toxic Razor Leaf Giga Drain Sludge Bomb Protect Mud Bomb Take Down Body Slam Hyperbeam |
Fakemon Name: Leaftra
Fakemon Type(s): Pokemon that Fakemon is replacing: (not that essential) Evolutions: Brief description/drawing: not pokedex, but sort of like what it looks like, it's base (eg. Squirtle is a Water Turtle), and you get the point Also, you're sort of godmodding this, it has no status moves (which should appear at least once in a set of three moves), and the moves are pretty godmodded as well. |
The first download is out, for anyone who wants to play it, it's not the same as the videos though.
REPORT ANY BUGS IMMEDIATELY TO ME! |
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Sorry, let's try again:
Fakemon Name: Leaftra Fakemon Type(s): Grass/Ground Pokemon that Fakemon is replacing: Doesn't matter. Evolutions: none Brief description/drawing: It has sort of a turtle shell back, with a head with a leaf on it. It's skin is mostly green, and the back is brown. It has a tail that is more like vines then a tail. |
@Cartercr - Great, but since the first release, I need to take a little "vacation" on Friday. (that's when my mom's home) XD
So, did you play it? Did you like it? Do you want MOAR??? |
Qwerty, I am having trouble with playing this Hack. I used every FR Rom I have, but there's a White Screen.
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same here, just a white screen
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Oh People, I forgot to tell you. Here are the instructions:
1. Open up an unmodified original rom 2. Wait till it boots (to like the copyright thing) 3. Ctrl + S (Save) 4. Copy the SGM file to the folder with my hack 5. Boot up, should have a white screen, then Ctrl +L (Load), and use the SGM file you copied. |
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And hahaha, there are lots of hilarious text, it makes me, laugh, a lot! :P :)Anyways, I still think you should revamp the First Town, although the scripts are pretty well scripted. The Hero OW is well sprited too. And by the way, I have some bugs to report: Pic 1: Some bits of another script is in the Intro. Pic 2: Tile Error Pic 3: I don't think the text is finished in the "I love" part. Pic 4: The "H" in "Have" is missing. Pic 5: The "T" in "Team Flora" isn't starting with a captial letter. I have a bit more to report, but I'll wait until you'll post. |
1. Oh, the intro wasn't there before.
2. That was the border, so ignore that 3. Something got into that script. 4. Something messed up 5. Who cares? |
The Sprites are far too shabby in my opinion, and they need to be improved. Also, you should try making the storyline a little deeper.
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As I have said, I will redo them.
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Now I'm recruiting a mapper. The reasons are as follows:
1. I suck at mapping 2. I'm obsessed with spriting 3. I don't have time to do all three. So PM me if you want to help. Only one spot available!!! |
Well if you needed a mapper, just ask me. Sign me up. BTW, i'm working on a beta test for ya. I can already tell you there were a lot of mistakes i found. I'll post those all when I finish.
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i got a sprite for you
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okay so i have a average kind of sprite for you
name:deflow (as in DEmon FLOWer) type:dark/grass pokemon its replacing:parasect description/image: an elegant little ghostlike flower with dark orange petals as arms it feeds of germs in the air to grow stronger. |
@cartercr - yeah, thanks. I'll PM you when I want you to start, because I need to start spriting and someone needs to do the mapping at the same time.
@tokiohotelfan - I'm not saying you need to or anything, but it's good to put a pre-evo because you're wanting me to replace parasect. |
Just tell me what you need for a first map, give me a description, and I'll start right away.
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Sure, I sent you a PM.
And just to let you know people, the reason of a lack of updates is because I'm spriting and not updating, because I want to keep it a secret. |
Wait, you aren't going to have updates?
just sprites? |
Not really, I think cartercr is busy and he'll be mapping soon, I'm just spriting, there will be about 60 pokemon in the next release.
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I think you should do more OW's. (Team Flora, the First Gym Leader, etc.)
Your OW's are pretty impressive, and it suits my style. |
Wow, really? Thanks! I never knew I was good.
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i have an idea for a fakemon to replace raquazza.
Tamias ghost/dragon ability: wonder guard no eveloutions (legendary) very dark green snake dragon, that is ghost like. has some black and gray. I know that it's a hoen pokemon, but i thought of the pokemon 2 years ago, and it probabllyworks best using it. |
Okay, sure, but I'll probably be making it later...
Anyway, the lack of updates is because... I am still secretly spriting and mapping... |
Oh jeez, those fakemon hacks with ugly fakemon...
Yeah, sorry, the fakemon don't look too well, but the movesets seem well made, and at least I have seen a fakemon game with a bunch of decent scripts. And that glitch is a common glitch when you turn into another player, I'm not sure how to fix it, but I hope you fixed it already. Good luck with the hack. And btw, nice name :P |
Umm .. Another Shrey's Surveys coming up !
Minor Major 1) Please change the name . Green Tree ? 2) Team Flora ? It sounds like a bunch of girls on a picnic . 3) Some of the Fakemon are really bad . Like 1-3 . Still , most Fakemon are good and the progress seems cool . Best of luck ! |
Thanks, that's a better way to do it...
1. Ermmm.... I thought it was bad too, but does Eternal Forest sound better? Because I can't really think of anything. 2. Sorry man, that's because it's like Aqua, Magma, and Flora. 3. I was fixing those a while back, didn't update yet. |
I think the game would be better if you only changed some pokemon to fakemon, not all of them.
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I'd rather it be all the Pokemon changed to Fakemon, one reason is because I will have to put more effort into it, and another is because I want it to be like quartz. (Without the swears)
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