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What about Nintendo?
I see that 95% of all hacks never credit Nintendo, the reason we are here. It's not really a big of a deal but what do you think?
Should Nintendo get credited for creating Pokemon in the first place? Or, should Nintendo not get credited seeing as the community created the tools needed to even hack a ROM of their game....? (When I say Nintendo, I guess you could include GameFreak as well) |
They should get credit, and gamefreak. The hacks we make are good because of nintendo's ideas and innovation, not because of our hacking skills.
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Credits sux anyway.. For all people here it's more importent to credit some random spriter who draw a single tile, instead of crediting the tool makes and researcher...
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i think it depends on how much of the original game you actually use...
if you change every last graphic detail, and map, events... you only kept the original asm of the game...the asm alone deserves credits... so yea... Nintendo needs credits, but seeing as this is a POKEMON hacking thread then it's sorta expected that any hacks are going to be recognized as having a Nintendo base. Which is all that credits are. Recognizing people for their work, if it gets done, then Nintendo has credits IMO. Just cuz the word isn't their doesn't mean they aren't recognized |
Well they made it in the first place, so yeah i think so.
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I always thought they should be included somewhere on the thread. Even if they are mentioned last on the credits, they deserve to be on the list IMO.
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I had always assumed that Nintendo being the original creators was always implied. Just for the same reason most games and hacks don't list Satoshi Tajiri-Oniwa.
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Nintendo should be credited because you coding/ the game without permission. Even with changed music, the original music makers deserve it too.
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People who deserve credit in Rom Hacks:
Nintendo Gamefreak The Tool Makers Fakemon Spriters Tilemakers The Creator of the hack and maybe Mappers |
I thinks its safe to say practically everyone agrees that Nintendo should get credit.
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i credit ninteno all the time for not being bored out of my mind
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Give credit for not just Nintendo or Gamefreak, but each individual person who worked on the original game and what they did. Put them in the credits at the end of your game, or in your readme. They all deserve their acknowledgment.
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I think a simple 'Credits to Nintendo, Gamefreak and everyone who helped make [Insert game name here].' works for me. |
Honestly crediting them just sounds bad to me, like oh we took your game and changed it, idk its like were adding are own creativity, but they could take it as what it wasnt good enough, when thats not the case we just want MORE. lol
so prolly credit them if your rom actully gets big, otherwise it souldnt matter too much. just my opion. |
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Off-topic: I wonder if Nintendo plays our hacks...Or even knows about PC. |
It's pretty hard to assume as to why Nintendo should NOT get credit...But at the same time, you have to think: Even though Nintendo's being given credit for making the original games we're hacking from, they actually could still sue us, since ROMs in themselves are illegal, and we're basically changing someone else's work so heavily that it's almost like a completely new game. So in a way, crediting them would be like saying: "Kudos to Nintendo/GameFreak for making Pokemon FireRed...An excellent game for me to use as my ROM Base for my totally new hack, Pokemon InsertATitleHere!" So really, crediting them would be more like an issue of conscience...maybe. Idk.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo DOES know there's people out there who hack their games, but all the years' worth of paperwork and filing lawsuits would take eternities to catch up to every single hacker out there. |
Definitely.
Which reminds me, I need to fix up my thread and check the credits. |
I think that they should, and they do. When you hear credits and pokemon in the same sentence, don't you think of Nintendo/Gamefreak? It's a bit of an automatic assumption.
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most people do but i surpose it starts getting redundent after a while cus we all know who made the games so a lot of people dont see the point
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Hmm, I think we should credit them, but we don't have to. It's not like they're asking us for credits. They don't even care about our ROM hacks.
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Nintendo: Thanks a lot guys. You took a perfectly good FireRed and ruined it. Don't blame us if we start sueing. (Evil laughs come from the president) |
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Yes, Nintendo should be credited, but I don't think you should credit everyone. you won't credit Satoshi Tajiri for creating the game, or Junichi Masuda for the music, and I have seen no one credit them seperately. Of course, when you credit Nintendo and Gamefreak, I guess you are supposed to assume/imply that it includes every single person in the game, including translators(when you are using a non-japanese rom.)
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The patches only contain the changes that we have made, ie. no data that was created by GameFreak or Nintendo so technically we aren't using any of their copyright material (yes, I know this argument doesn't really hold water but I'm too tired to think about it now).
I don't really see the need for it. Quote:
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No, I'm pretty sure he's being serious. |
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