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johnboy3434 August 5th, 2009 12:20 PM

Will they change the name of the Gen I rival?
 
In G/S/E, he was named Blue due to just about everywhere that wasn't Japan getting Red and Blue instead of Red and Green. Since the remakes were still called FireRed and LeafGreen outside of Japan, will they rename the Gen I rival to Green?

Oh! More importantly, what do you think they'll do about the Gen I remake's female protagonist? Perhaps if you choose the female protagonist in HG/SS, you fight her instead of Red at Mt. Silver? Maybe they'll finally give her an official name. I'm betting the call her Blue and change the rival's name to Green. It seems like the most obvious solution to me.

Jolene August 5th, 2009 12:35 PM

I think that he'll be called Green, and that the female character won't be included.

JLP_M August 5th, 2009 12:39 PM

idk if they'll call him green, I believe he'll be named Blue still, but who knows! and Im sure also that the girl in FR/LG won't be included

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 2:04 PM

Probally Blue still but whats G/S/E? (Gold,Silver,Emerald?)

Kamtari August 5th, 2009 2:24 PM

They should name:
Blue into LeafGreen
Red into FireRed
And the girl probably won't be included...

mew² August 5th, 2009 2:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamtari (Post 4949084)
They should name:
Blue into LeafGreen
Red into FireRed
And the girl probably won't be included...

I don't see what parent would name there child that.

Anyways, maybe since Game Freak sees how much we are obsessed with PokeSpe, he will remain Red. I hope so anyways.

PsychoTines August 5th, 2009 5:36 PM

I will cry if Red is switched to 'Leaf'(that IS what people call her, Am I right) >:
And the rival from Gen I? Should be Green.
I suppose in the Jap, he'll be green. and he might still be Blue in English. However, I'm unsure. Guess we'll have to see.

johnboy3434 August 5th, 2009 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4949012)
Probally Blue still but whats G/S/E? (Gold,Silver,Emerald?)

"G/S/E" means I'm an idiot. I meant "G/S/C". I'm used to typing "R/S/E", so the "S" threw me off.

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Originally Posted by PsychoTines (Post 4949841)
I will cry if Red is switched to 'Leaf'(that IS what people call her, Am I right) >:

I don't mean him being completely replaced. I mean him being replaced only if the protagonist is female. In other words, Gold will fight Red and Kris will fight "Leaf".*

*I'm assuming the female protagonist we see is a significantly redesigned Kris, and not an entirely new character. After all, would any of you look at the two Reds (R/G/B/Y and FR/LG) and say they're the same character if you didn't know better? Also, I hate the name "Leaf". People call her "Leaf" because that's the internal placeholder for her name in the game's code. I think it's ridiculously obvious that her real name is supposed to be "Blue", but there's no hard evidence for that.

PiplupGHacker August 5th, 2009 7:22 PM

Dude, in the english manga, the girl was named green and the rival was named blue.

I see no reason to change anything

johnboy3434 August 5th, 2009 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PiplupGHacker (Post 4950300)
Dude, in the english manga, the girl was named green and the rival was named blue.

I see no reason to change anything

Yes, but with the remakes acknowledging the second color as Green, plus "Green" being the first default name for the rival in the "dominant" version (FireRed), I believe that discrepancy has been erased in the games' continuity.

Hatenko August 5th, 2009 7:41 PM

Isn't the girl's name Leaf?

PsychoTines August 5th, 2009 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johnboy3434 (Post 4950268)



I don't mean him being completely replaced. I mean him being replaced only if the protagonist is female. In other words, Gold will fight Red and Kris will fight "Leaf".

I've only heard her called Leaf. And I don't believe the new girl is Kris. Thats too much of a change in IMO.

But about Red, I was planning on being the girl, that's why I said that.


In the Manga, or at least the Japanese, Green WAS the rival
I haven't looked at any of it too incredibly recently, but all of Serebii's Manga Bios confirm what I say.

AndreaLuvsPikachu August 5th, 2009 8:30 PM

I hope they keep it as blue

Wings Don't Cry August 5th, 2009 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PiplupGHacker (Post 4950300)
Dude, in the english manga, the girl was named green and the rival was named blue.

I see no reason to change anything

There were 2 versions of the manga, one where the guy was called Green and the girl was called Blue and vice-versa.

yoshikiller995 August 5th, 2009 10:27 PM

There's no reason for them too, so they shouldn't.

IceSage August 5th, 2009 10:56 PM

I'm guessing it'll be the same... As the original R/B/G characters are literally, and always have been, "Red, Blue, and Green." This is the way it is in most of the manga related content as well. The only reason why it was "Leaf Green" and "Fire Red" at first, is because the original games were "Green" and "Red" -- With "Blue" being a special game that was released AFTER Red / Green. The traditional games, especially known to Japan, have always been Red and Green.

Blue was an "enhanced" version that came after Red and Green. The American Pokemon Red, is based off of the Japan's "enhanced" "Blue" game. This is why, if you download Pokemon Green or import it from Japan, it'll have distinct graphical differences.

So basically:

Japan: Red and Green ---> Blue ---> American/English: Blue AND Red

Japan: FireRed and LeafGreen --> American/English: FireRed and LeafGreen

The Non-Japanese regions never saw the light of either of the original Japanese Red or Blue releases at all. The game we received instead was the later added on and enhanced "Blue" version.

So, to the Japanese and creators of the Pokemon franchise, it has ALWAYS been Red, Green and Blue for the character names. The fact that we got a "Green" in place of "Blue" for "LeafGreen" is because Japan's Pokemon tradition was always Green/Red, and not Blue.

Unless some American translator decides it will be a brilliant idea to mess around with the names, I don't see Red's name changing to "LeafGreen" or "Leaf."

I hope this explains it.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 6th, 2009 7:21 AM

the rivals name isn't important to begin with so I doubt they will change the rivals name


:t354:TG

doubles92 August 6th, 2009 4:38 PM

they probably will name him gary and probably rename red to ash.

Shaymew August 6th, 2009 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by doubles92 (Post 4954098)
they probably will name him gary and probably rename red to ash.

I would hate them so so so so so so so much if they rename red to ash..
It makes more sense as red...

Anyway for on topic I would like to see him named Green and have the REAL blue make an appearace. She was awesome.

johnboy3434 August 6th, 2009 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IceSage (Post 4950916)
Unless some American translator decides it will be a brilliant idea to mess around with the names, I don't see Red's name changing to "LeafGreen" or "Leaf."

No one here even suggested that Red's name would change. "Leaf" is the name popularly given to the female protagonist of FR/LG, due to the word "Leaf" being the internal placeholder for her name in the game's data. I think her name was obviously supposed to be "Blue" in Japan (and possibly in North America, as well, depending on whether the rival's name has officially reverted to "Green" or not), but there's no concrete evidence for this.

linkinpark187 August 6th, 2009 6:27 PM

my guess would be that it's still going to be Red and Blue. anyone that's read any of the graphic novels would know that's what their names are in those. but, who knows? it would be interesting if they changed them to Ash and Gary, but, unfortunately, i doubt it. we'll find out soon, though. :D

johnboy3434 August 6th, 2009 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 4954478)
my guess would be that it's still going to be Red and Blue. anyone that's read any of the graphic novels would know that's what their names are in those. but, who knows? it would be interesting if they changed them to Ash and Gary, but, unfortunately, i doubt it. we'll find out soon, though. :D

Their names are Red and Green in the original Japanese manga.

Kleinchen August 6th, 2009 7:34 PM

If their names are anything other than Red and Blue, someone in Nintendo will be getting bricks through their windows and eggs on their cars. >|

Timbjerr August 6th, 2009 10:53 PM

The GenI rival/GenII Viridian Gym leader will most likely remain named "Blue" simply for the fact that it has been his name in America for nearly ten years and will remain as such in the name of tradition irregardless of the fact that it was initially a mistranslation seeded in the different game releases between Japan and america. >_>

Oh, and anyone suggesting the anime names "Ash" and "Gary" ought to introduce their head to the nearest blunt object.

LethalTexture August 7th, 2009 1:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4954270)
I think they should just call him Gary and make it easier on everyone instead of using colors/objects. It's not like Gary from the anime, it's the second option in choice of names. They should call him Gary, male frlg protagonist, Ash, and the girl, Ashley. It will be much easier on everyone.

NO NO

They are not the same characters.

GunSaberSeraph August 7th, 2009 5:51 AM

I think they should just play it safe and say Red, Green(Rival), and Blue(Leaf).

YellowPen August 7th, 2009 7:55 AM

im actually saying that they will call them FireRed and LeafGreen.

For the simple fact that every country have FR and LG, and it would keep a consistency throughout all versions


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