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JLP_M August 5th, 2009 12:42 PM

Diffrence Between G/S/ and HG/SS
 
What are the main differences? im tired of people on other sites saying there is no point in buying the game because its the same exact thing, so I wanna give them info proving that there wrong, can any of you guys help?

A Real True Winner Is Me August 5th, 2009 12:43 PM

Main differences?

The designs, lol. It's much better-looking thatn the old one.

processr August 5th, 2009 12:45 PM

People saying there's no point in buying it because it's no different? The hell? Every nostalgic fanboy here is complaining that it isn't exactly the same as GS. >>

JLP_M August 5th, 2009 12:53 PM

on other sites there saying no point in buying, im buying the game because i loved the original

Jolene August 5th, 2009 1:15 PM

I think that there's going to be quite a lot of differences. We've already seen that there are going to be some changes to the storyline (such as the Kimono Girls playing an important role and Team Rocket having extra executives),and the Johto map has been changed around quite a bit.

To be honest, these remakes seem more like a "director's cut" of the original Gold and Silver games, rather faithful recreations like Fire Red and Leaf Green were.

JLP_M August 5th, 2009 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolene (Post 4948857)
I think that there's going to be quite a lot of differences. We've already seen that there are going to be some changes to the storyline (such as the Kimono Girls playing an important role and Team Rocket having extra executives),and the Johto map has been changed around quite a bit.

To be honest, these remakes seem more like a "director's cut" of the original Gold and Silver games, rather faithful recreations like Fire Red and Leaf Green were.

thats a good wat to put it!

bluecat August 5th, 2009 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolene (Post 4948857)
To be honest, these remakes seem more like a "director's cut" of the original Gold and Silver games, rather faithful recreations like Fire Red and Leaf Green were.

Oooh a '"director's cut". I like thinking of it like that.

Main reason to buy these though? Finally having easier access to Gen II Pokemon with current devices. At least for me anyhow...

Haza August 5th, 2009 4:08 PM

Its obviously different. Thee are over 200 pokemon we now have access to that you didnt whn GS was out. Thats a start. Not to mention wifi capabilities.

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 4949536)
I hold the idea that if you're buying this, you're buying just another Pokémon game. Maybe there are some who absolutely love the nostalgia factor and they can buy this - and they'll love it. With these games though, the target demographic isn't the people who've played G/S anyway - those guys come second. Those who haven't played get a "new game".


Good way to put it Hiroshi. Think about it its been 6/7 years since G/S? So a TON more pokemon fans are around and some never even heard of Johto (My god, that should be against the law!)

JLP_M August 5th, 2009 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4949685)
Good way to put it Hiroshi. Think about it its been 6/7 years since G/S? So a TON more pokemon fans are around and some never even heard of Johto (My god, that should be against the law!)

its been more than that almost 10 years

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 5:11 PM

Lol are you crazy. I got the game for my 4th birthday when it like just came out and its been almost 8 years now.

yoshikiller995 August 5th, 2009 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4949743)
Lol are you crazy. I got the game for my 4th birthday when it like just came out and its been almost 8 years now.

Weren't you a little young to be playing these games at four? I got yellow for my 9th birthday, and I didn't have anyreal idea of how to really play the game.

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoshikiller995 (Post 4949817)
Weren't you a little young to be playing these games at four? I got yellow for my 9th birthday, and I didn't have anyreal idea of how to really play the game.

Lol you didn't? I didn't really know how to read all that fast but when I was about 4 and a half I beat the elite 4. Then when I was about 5 I got pokemon yellow. It was easy. Also when I was 3 I helped my 6 year old brother beat pokemon blue Lol!

Ayselipera August 5th, 2009 5:40 PM

It has new graphics and a deeper plot.

Even if It was just like Gold and Silver besides the graphics why wouldn't you get it? Updated graphics just make the game imo.

linkinpark187 August 5th, 2009 5:43 PM

This year will actually mark the 10th year anniversary of Pokémon Gold & Silver for Japan, and next year will mark the 10th year for the US. I remember the year it came out...how I miss the original so... but, I've been playing the original on my PSP, getting myself pumped up for the release of HG/SS, even if it isn't coming out until spring of next year. :laugh:

One of the big...well, big for me, things that I'm looking forward to (unless Nintendo has opted not to do it anymore) is having your Pokémon follow you. That, and I hope the PokéWalker is released in the US. Can't wait!

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 5:47 PM

Oh well then I must have got the game for my 3rd birthday as I got it the year it came out. Yes I did get it for my third birthday because I got my Gameboy Color then also. So I just added a year to everything :O

linkinpark187 August 5th, 2009 5:51 PM

:laugh: Well, it was a good number of years ago for you, so we don't expect you to remember the exact year. In my opinion, though, it has to be the best in the Pokémon series, which is why, I think, everyone is making a big deal about there being a remake for it. Remember when the remake for Red & Blue came out? Wasn't a very big deal. But Gold & Silver, on the other hand...yeah... The proof is, as they say, in the pudding. lol

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 5:56 PM

Yeah your right I never really did like Red/Blue. (OMG DONT KILL ME!) Gold/Silver/Crystal was my game. I never actually had Gold/Silver I had crystal did that come out the same year or was it a year after?

Painter August 5th, 2009 6:01 PM

plus the physical special attack split now my red gyarados will be 5x better

linkinpark187 August 5th, 2009 6:01 PM

If memory serves me right, Crystal was released a few months after G/S, so it wasn't until 2001 that it was released.

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 6:04 PM

Aww so I was 4 then Lol what do you mean the Atk and Sp.atk split?

Munch Dog August 5th, 2009 6:08 PM

Gold/Silver came out in the US in 2000. Crystal released in 2001. And yeah, as much as I loved Red, Blue, and Yellow back in the day, G/S/C has always been, and still is my absolute favorite in the series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by death3xx (Post 4949953)
Aww so I was 4 then Lol what do you mean the Atk and Sp.atk split?

In Diamond and Pearl they changed it to where moves were either a physical attack or a special attack based on what the move actually did rather than only on it's type.

MadaraUchiha. August 5th, 2009 6:16 PM

What R/S/E didnt have Sp.Atk?

AndreaLuvsPikachu August 5th, 2009 6:27 PM

im just 14, i don't remember much on Pokemon silver, but i remember there weren't as many mini games as there are now :laugh:

Dillon_68 August 5th, 2009 6:32 PM

I got Blue version when I was 4/5 for christmas. (My 5th birthday was the day after Christmas) By the time I got Gold/Silver, I was about 7/8 and I had plenty of knowledge on playing Pokemon. Took me a while to learn at 5 though.=P

I would say whatever that area to the left of Cianwood is should be a big difference from G/S, I mean, look at its size!

Edit: I'm 16 now btw.

linkinpark187 August 5th, 2009 6:34 PM

actually, in R/B/Y, it was Atk, Def, Spcl, and Spd. in G/S/C, they split the Spcl into, what we know today as the Sp.Atk and Sp.Def. There was a lot in G/S that was introduced, which was very surprising for a second gen game of any kind, in my opinion. when i found that they got rid of the Day/Night Modifier in R/S/E, i wanted to cry. i was glad they brought it back in D/P/P.

Sweet Smoochum August 6th, 2009 3:20 AM

What the New Games have that the old ones didn't have:
ANY POKEMON CAN FOLLOW YOU! Any of the 493 Pokemon including legendaries. How awesome is that?!
MAGNET TRAIN IS IN 3D. <3 OMG.
New intros.
BETTER GRAPHICS.
Updated music.
Itemfinder added to the Pokegear.
Can catch Hoenn and Sinnoh legendaries.
New areas.
9 Mini games.
New gym puzzles.
New girl (who isn't Kris.)
Pc boxes, pack, pokegear, menu all on the touch screen
Eusine is back in HGSS. (Crystal elements.)
Legendaries have their own music this time.
Kimono girls get a bigger role.
Team Rocket dances in Kimono studio.
Male Playable character gets a new look.
Pokewalker.
Rival looks cuter.
ACTUAL DOUBLE BATTLES this time. (It wasn't in the old games.)
Team Rocket executives have newer clothes.
Ho-oh and Lugia's levels are higher and you see them at the climax of the story.
You can get Red Gyarados and actually trade it to DPPt.

Sweet Smoochum August 6th, 2009 3:56 AM

At least I'm stating some differences here. Your response has been underlined and mine is in bold.
[QUOTE=GymLeaderLily/Hiroshi Sotomura/Me again.]

What the New Games have that the old ones didn't have:
Any of the 493 Pokemon including legendaries can follow you. How awesome is that?! - Actually something special Yes, yes it is.
Magnet Train is in 3D. <3 OMG. - Cosmetic change It's still cool. Trains are my favorite form of transportation.
New intros. - Cosmetic change (I like it, though. Especially those title screens, and the addition of Silver.)
BETTER GRAPHICS. - Cosmetic change Change for the better. Good news for spriters or those who want to make comics that take place in Johto. (I've been wanting to make a comic that takes place in Johto. Now I don't have to finish making Johto maps w/ FrLg graphics.)
Updated music. - Cosmetic change It sounds better to me.
Itemfinder added to the Pokegear. - Cosmetic change It's better than having to go down a long list to use it.
Can catch Hoenn and Sinnoh legendaries. - Actually something special It's good for those who don't have RSE or DPPt.
New areas. - What exactly, is unconfirmed. But might be special. (I'm talking about extended part of Cianwood, area west of National park, and Shinto Ruins.)
9 Mini games. - Special to those who care. At least it's something new to do for those who would like try something different.
New gym puzzles. - Cosmetic change, and plus you won't go back to the gyms after the first time anyway, will you? Do 16 (or less) puzzles justify a new game? I didn't say they did. I'm just stating the differences. (I go back to the gyms more than once, because I feel like talking to the gym leader unlike a lot of people. Also, I like to do a new game once in a while.)
New girl (who isn't Kris.) - Cosmetic change and people would like to disagree about this being good. I didn't say all changes were good. The new girl wasn't in Gold or Silver. Also, if you play as the boy, the girl is the supporting role and vice versa. The original GS games didn't have that. Crystal didn't have the other protagonist play a supporting role. I'm happy I can play as someone new.
PC boxes, bag, pokegear, pokedex, menu all on the touch screen - Cosmetic change But it appears to be easier to use. (For me anyway.) I use my left hand to hold the stylus, so I don't have to take it out of my hand to press the a, b, x, and y buttons. The Pokedex is better so you don't have to go down a long list of 493 names.
Eusine is back in HGSS. (Crystal elements.) - Cosmetic change and special? It is special. The additions from Crystal added to remakes of Gold and Silver are special. That means we may get Buena's Password on the Pokegear.
Legendaries have their own music this time. - Cosmetic change It's still better, and you don't have to have Colosseum or XD Gale of Darkness to get them now.
Kimono girls get a bigger role. - Really all that special? Yes, they were cool. It's something that the originals didn't have.
Team Rocket dances in Kimono studio. - And this too? It didn't happen in the original. I found it funny when I saw the grunt.
Male Playable character gets a new look. - Cosmetic change A change for the better (to me anyway.)
Pokewalker. - Not part of the remake Didn't say it was. It comes inside the box.
ACTUAL DOUBLE BATTLES this time. (It wasn't in the old games.) - Cosmetic change, FRLG did it. I don't care what FrLg did. I haven't even finished playing Red version. I never played Blue. I thought Red version was awful. (Mainly, because of the Red everywhere. Gold was my first game.) Double battles weren't in the original games for those who do not know.
Team Rocket executives have newer clothes. - Cosmetic change - if they have a better story then yay Hey, they actually might.
Ho-oh and Lugia's levels are higher and you see them at the climax of the story. - Cosmetic change, and what's with the last part? Didn't they say that you have to encounter it? Instead of it only being an option like last time?
You can get Red Gyarados and actually trade it to DPPt. - Cosmetic change and also a given - no duh you can trade it Okay, that wasn't nice. You don't have to say "duh" to me. :( I know that Red Gyarados can be traded to DPPt. I'm telling the ones who didn't know that Red Gyarados is actually in this game. Some people were actually questioning whether or not it would be in this game, or if Lance would catch it instead of you. I have to point out what most say are "the obvious" so the ones who didn't know would understand.

I didn't say these were the reasons for getting the game. I'm just stating some of the changes for those who didn't know. Not everyone knows about the game as much as some of the members here. I've noticed some people asking recently if the Pokemon following the trainer is true or not. Some people just joined this month and they don't know all the info. I'm helping them out. The title of the thread asks what the differences are? I'm actually stating some of the differences unlike a lot of people here that have already posted.

Also, there is a chance of a better Kanto. The areas that were closed in the original may be reopened. They can do what they were unable to do last time, because of memory space.

Some other changes: Running shoes, two items on select, the Pokedex isn't a long list of names anymore. It's a lot easier. You don't have to hold down the B button to run. I know it's not a major change, but it's more convenient.

Alex31 August 6th, 2009 4:12 AM

HG/SS do appear to be nothing more than a directors cut of the originals, as we don't know enough to fully decide.

So far, most things seem to be cosmetic changes.

Sweet Smoochum August 6th, 2009 4:20 AM

Cosmetic changes are still changes nevertheless. The title asks what the differences are. I merely stated some of the differences. Not much info has been revealed on how much the plot has changed or stayed the same. They're most likely going to base it off of FrLg instead of RBY and possibly mention (doubt they'll add, but just mention) the Sevii Islands. Also, in this game, you can catch Mewtwo. (At least that's what Pokemon Sunday is hinting at.)

Live Update King August 6th, 2009 4:34 AM

I would like to play it on my computer since I don't have a DS

linkinpark187 August 6th, 2009 4:41 AM

i'm not really a big fan of the heroine's new look. i actually like the way she looked in Crystal...oh well...

and i do agree with GymLeaderLily, that yes, they are cosmetic changes, but never-the-less are changes. can't wait for spring next year! :D

and just be patient, philip1992. it'll be worth the wait. at least....i hope. lol

Live Update King August 6th, 2009 4:43 AM

So I will have to play the original G/S or a hack until then;)
I play all pokemon games on computer now anyway because the small screen hurts my eyes

linkinpark187 August 6th, 2009 4:46 AM

that's what i've been doing. i've been playing it on my PSP. kind of nice, because it gives it more of that authentic feel, being on a handheld as opposed to being on the computer. although...playing on the computer gives you a MUCH bigger screen. :laugh:

Live Update King August 6th, 2009 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 4951567)
that's what i've been doing. i've been playing it on my PSP. kind of nice, because it gives it more of that authentic feel, being on a handheld as opposed to being on the computer. although...playing on the computer gives you a MUCH bigger screen. :laugh:

I play longer on a computer because of that:)

Sweet Smoochum August 6th, 2009 4:52 AM

Personally, I liked playing FrLg A LOT better than Red version.

I know I'll like HG/SS better than the originals. Everything good from the old games has been updated and improved. I can finally play a game that takes place in Johto that is compatible to the newer games. (If HGSS isn't compatible to FrLg or RSE, I don't mind, because I can migrate to Sinnoh and trade those Pokemon to HGSS.) I can also make a new Johto party and trade it over to Platinum to battle in the Sinnoh Battle Frontier. Also, I don't have to buy a memory card for XD Gale of Darkness to get Johto Pokemon. I can finally have a Johto starter again and I don't have to complete the Hoenn dex in Emerald.

Also, I'm looking forward to my rematch with Red at Mount Silver with a better team and the new attacks. I want to use Meganium's Frenzy Plant against Red's Blastoise.

linkinpark187 August 6th, 2009 4:53 AM

lol yeah, it is kind of nice. the nice thing is that the emulator i use on the PSP saves in the same format as the VBA, so i can go back and forth with my save. i love it...if it wasn't for eBay, i wouldn't have had a PSP with the hacked firmware, though...then i wouldn't have that option.

the one upside that i find to the emulator on the PC is the fact that you have the option to speed up the game. i'll do that when i'm trainging Pokémon, as it makes the training process much more painless. i've found myself spending "10 hours" training...10 hours game time, that is. :laugh: in reality that 10 hours may be a matter of 30-minutes.

and i have to agree with you, Lily. it was more because the game was aesthetically pleasing than anything, though, as the storyline, for the most part, was still about as dry as the original. i did like the addition of the Sevii Islands, though.

what would be interesting for them to put into Heart Gold and Soul Silver would be...well, i think it would have to be the Orange Archipelago. you know, the Orange Island League. not sure how many here would remember that...

JBW August 6th, 2009 5:47 AM

Even if HG/SS is the same as G/S so what? Some people have bought Diamond, pearl and platinum and aren't they exactly the same apart from the pokemon?

JLP_M August 6th, 2009 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4951378)
What the New Games have that the old ones didn't have:
ANY POKEMON CAN FOLLOW YOU! Any of the 493 Pokemon including legendaries. How awesome is that?!
MAGNET TRAIN IS IN 3D. <3 OMG.
New intros.
BETTER GRAPHICS.
Updated music.
Itemfinder added to the Pokegear.
Can catch Hoenn and Sinnoh legendaries.
New areas.
9 Mini games.
New gym puzzles.
New girl (who isn't Kris.)
Pc boxes, pack, pokegear, menu all on the touch screen
Eusine is back in HGSS. (Crystal elements.)
Legendaries have their own music this time.
Kimono girls get a bigger role.
Team Rocket dances in Kimono studio.
Male Playable character gets a new look.
Pokewalker.
Rival looks cuter.
ACTUAL DOUBLE BATTLES this time. (It wasn't in the old games.)
Team Rocket executives have newer clothes.
Ho-oh and Lugia's levels are higher and you see them at the climax of the story.
You can get Red Gyarados and actually trade it to DPPt.

wow, thats alot of info! thanks! time to show those people there wrong

MegaKuriboh August 6th, 2009 9:29 AM

LOTS OF DIFERENCES

- D/P/Pt Graphics
- new sprites
- the boy ow you can acually tell its gold (in the old game it looked like red)
- 3 & 4 gen pokemon
- wifi
- Pkmn follow you
- new storyline
- new rocket members
and theres more!

Minun456 August 6th, 2009 10:49 AM

Some major changes from G/S/C to HG/SS is the PokeWalker, the design, and the events.
This game is going to be the best DS game in my opinion.

moonlamp August 6th, 2009 11:45 AM

Well SS and HG is much more Better now.
They have New event and more.

linkinpark187 August 6th, 2009 12:46 PM

i can't wait to go to the park and join in on the Bug Catching Contest again. i actually hope that they put the Safari Zone back in it, too, even if it's not until some event has been satisfied. the one thing that thouroughly annoyed me about G/S/C was the loss of the Safari Zone.

Sebastien Loeb August 6th, 2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLP_M (Post 4948740)
What are the main differences? im tired of people on other sites saying there is no point in buying the game because its the same exact thing, so I wanna give them info proving that there wrong, can any of you guys help?

According to me, I am too much there few information, video and screenshot to decide what differences to the moment there are.

Clear August 6th, 2009 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreaLuvsPikachu (Post 4950052)
im just 14, i don't remember much on Pokemon silver, but i remember there weren't as many mini games as there are now :laugh:

Being 14 is a perfect age to remember pokemon, what are you talking about! :)

Poliwagged August 6th, 2009 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolene (Post 4948857)
I think that there's going to be quite a lot of differences. We've already seen that there are going to be some changes to the storyline (such as the Kimono Girls playing an important role and Team Rocket having extra executives),and the Johto map has been changed around quite a bit.

To be honest, these remakes seem more like a "director's cut" of the original Gold and Silver games, rather faithful recreations like Fire Red and Leaf Green were.

You make it sound like HG/SS is a bad thing when you phrased FR/LG as "faithful recreations"

doubles92 August 6th, 2009 4:28 PM

The people who say that are dumb. the graphics is better and could connect to D/P/PT. Plus who wouldnt like to relive their childhood?

linkinpark187 August 7th, 2009 7:21 AM

it could be interesting if they not only did Kanto, but also added Hoenn...or, better yet, why not the Orre region? you know, from the Pokémon Colosseum games. :D

EricTheEevee August 7th, 2009 12:57 PM

Well, the graphics of G/S were good from their time, but the nature and architecture of HG/SS are absolutely beautiful. The game looks almost flawless for being a handheld game.

linkinpark187 August 7th, 2009 3:09 PM

That's Nintendo for you. Only they know what the DS is capable of doing. Anyone else notice that? I mean, that not many other companies seem to take advantage of the DS/DSi's graphic capabilities? I still can't wait, though. :D

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 7th, 2009 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 4951551)
i'm not really a big fan of the heroine's new look. i actually like the way she looked in Crystal...oh well...

and i do agree with GymLeaderLily, that yes, they are cosmetic changes, but never-the-less are changes. can't wait for spring next year! :D
l

agreed, but this thread isn't complaining about her lol. But it was bound to happen to make a remake


:t354:TG

ShinyMeganium August 8th, 2009 8:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 4951389)
*A really long, pessimistic post*

Alright, just to make the point, MANY of the features you considered as "cosmetic change" are much more than that. New places and double battles are definitely more than cosmetic changes. And I can count GTS as a new place so bam, confirmed. Plus, they gave us many clues for new places.

Oh, and the writer didn't even include a few other features. For example, the extra 242 new Pokemons that weren't available in the originals (sorry if it's not the exact number, I don't care of those things in Pokemon anymore lol, over 240 Pokes anyways) in that classic region are a fair reason to throw away the old games. And yes, trust me, most of you will barely see your old G/S cartridges once the English versions of HGSS are out (what's the difference, it's the same game, plus better graphics and endless new features, minus the majority of the bugs).

Mew~ August 8th, 2009 10:44 AM

Im guessing just the gxs (sorry if thats spelt wrong)


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