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kazeshini August 7th, 2009 9:19 AM

my synopsis
 
personally i think they are remaking it because in my opinion johto was the weakest region, idk about you lot but i neva liked it and didnt even bother getting to the second gym leader when i played it.

the rest were kool though <^.^>
__

Finnel August 7th, 2009 10:01 AM

Personally I think they're remaking them because the games are really old now and Johto is the only region that isn't present in the GBA-DS games.

I do agree that the original games were pretty mediocre, though. Music and Pokémon designs were great, but the games themselves were boring.

thegeneticway August 7th, 2009 10:05 AM

I've never played them, but I read a walkthrough about it on Serebii.

It seemed kinda boring and hard.

Sydian August 7th, 2009 10:16 AM

Seems like you didn't even take the time to get to the interesting part(s) of the game. Weakest region? From what I've gathered, the most disliked region/games is Hoenn/RSE. By "weakest region", I'm hoping you mean the level problem, but you possibly can't be referring to that seeing that you didn't get far enough to know about that. Training for the 7th gym against wild Pokemon = battling level 15 Flaaffy. That's the level problem. Again, from my sources, GSC seems to be the most beloved game, give or take a few compared to RBY. The first new batch of Pokemon, a day and night system, two regions, 16 badges, breeding, genders, etc. It was nearly overwhelming and practically gave an earthquake to gameplay as a whole. I seriously don't understand how you get off saying it was the weakest region, especially when it's the region that gave us Umbreon, Tyranitar, Sunflora, Steelix, Blissey, Skarmory, and a bunch of other Pokemon for your competitive needs.

joehat August 7th, 2009 10:18 AM

You summed it up better than I did, SilverSmeargleSplatter!

Personally,

To say that the first two generations were generic and boring tells me you must've never really played them.

kazeshini, how can you say that Johto was the weakest region when you didn't even make it to the second gym? Johto is the strongest region in my opinion, next to Sinnoh, because of all of the mythology that surrounds them.

Kanto is always fun because it was first, and Hoenn was probably the weakest (I like Hoenn, I just like the others better).

thegeneticway, the game seemed kinda boring and hard, from reading a walkthrough? What's so hard about Pokemon?

I agree with Makku. They're remaking this game to bring generation II up to standards with where Pokemon games are now.

I'm not bashing anyone, just giving my opinion. It's been nearly 10 years since the originial release of Gold and Silver, and I haven't been more excited for a Pokemon game since then haha.

blue August 7th, 2009 10:18 AM

Johto Was by far the Best Reigon.
Gold & Silver Was the Game they made the most money off!

Also, Gold & Silver & Crystal. We're voted the Best Pokemon Games Ever

You just need to play the WHOLE storyline with The Features.

Sweet Smoochum August 7th, 2009 10:59 AM

Johto was the very first region I've ever played in. I didn't know they weren't considered "low" at the time. Despite the levels the Pokemon were, the gyms were tough to beat. The levels were they way they were, because of the two regions. How can you say Johto is "weak" when you haven't even played through the whole game? I don't care about levels. All the gyms were a challenge. So what if the levels were low compared to RBY? (Personally, I still haven't fully played Red version.) I got Feraligatr to level 100 in Silver easily. Compared to the newer games, the levels in GSC were much lower, true. But you're forgetting that newer games have only 1 region, so the task of setting up levels were a little bit easier. Also, reading a walk-through makes the game seem less fun. (To me anyway.) You already know what to expect. And another thing, you can't compare a game that's 10 years old to the newer games. They corrected their errors with the newer games. Just because the levels in FrLg were the same as RBY, doesn't mean that the levels in HGSS will be exactly the same as GSC. They'll probably fix it up better. They made Lugia and Ho-oh gain five levels. I'm sure they know how they could handle two regions better by learning what they did wrong. If you ask me, Johto had an awesome plot. I liked everything about it. It was a great first game.

kazeshini August 7th, 2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joehat (Post 4956746)
You summed it up better than I did, SilverSmeargleSplatter!

Personally,

To say that the first two generations were generic and boring tells me you must've never really played them.

kazeshini, how can you say that Johto was the weakest region when you didn't even make it to the second gym? Johto is the strongest region in my opinion, next to Sinnoh, because of all of the mythology that surrounds them.

Kanto is always fun because it was first, and Hoenn was probably the weakest (I like Hoenn, I just like the others better).

thegeneticway, the game seemed kinda boring and hard, from reading a walkthrough? What's so hard about Pokemon?

I agree with Makku. They're remaking this game to bring generation II up to standards with where Pokemon games are now.

I'm not bashing anyone, just giving my opinion. It's been nearly 10 years since the originial release of Gold and Silver, and I haven't been more excited for a Pokemon game since then haha.

didnt make it?? hahaha didnt want to. if you want ill download it and complete it in 24 hours. got nothin better to do and my girlfriend is on holiday so do u want that??
tbf id say kanto was the best. and if you look around u might find a nice big book that tells u i have a right to free speech..find it...read it...and stop tryin to force your opinions on others

Sydian August 7th, 2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

didnt make it?? hahaha didnt want to. if you want ill download it and complete it in 24 hours. got nothin better to do and my girlfriend is on holiday so do u want that??
No one here is forcing you to play the game, but when you start going off and claiming that Johto is the weakest region and you haven't even gone past the second gym, you really have no say-so in whether it is or not. It's not even a fair comparison.

Finnel August 7th, 2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazeshini (Post 4956914)
and if you look around u might find a nice big book that tells u i have a right to free speech..find it...read it...and stop tryin to force your opinions on others

Nowhere in Joehat's post did he try to force his opinion on you, he just pointed out that you can't really say a whole region is bad when you haven't even played through half of it.

kazeshini August 7th, 2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 4956945)
No one here is forcing you to play the game, but when you start going off and claiming that Johto is the weakest region and you haven't even gone past the second gym, you really have no say-so in whether it is or not. It's not even a fair comparison.

scroll up the page...and im sure the first few words included "personally i think"
that isnt a fact but MY personal opinion. and u sed i couldn't get past the second gym and if you want i will gladly do all the gyms and the league in 24 hours(on the card not non-stop)

JLP_M August 7th, 2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 4956735)
Seems like you didn't even take the time to get to the interesting part(s) of the game. Weakest region? From what I've gathered, the most disliked region/games is Hoenn/RSE. By "weakest region", I'm hoping you mean the level problem, but you possibly can't be referring to that seeing that you didn't get far enough to know about that. Training for the 7th gym against wild Pokemon = battling level 15 Flaaffy. That's the level problem. Again, from my sources, GSC seems to be the most beloved game, give or take a few compared to RBY. The first new batch of Pokemon, a day and night system, two regions, 16 badges, breeding, genders, etc. It was nearly overwhelming and practically gave an earthquake to gameplay as a whole. I seriously don't understand how you get off saying it was the weakest region, especially when it's the region that gave us Umbreon, Tyranitar, Sunflora, Steelix, Blissey, Skarmory, and a bunch of other Pokemon for your competitive needs.

So true, G/S/C brought so much new stuff into the pokemon world, thats why its my favorite of all time

Sweet Smoochum August 7th, 2009 11:36 AM

They're not forcing their opinion on you in any way whatsoever. They just wonder how you can say something about a game you haven't even fully played before.

Also the GSC games are old. They've been remade and will be in Japan in September. There's a good chance that they have fixed the level problem. (Don't go by the demo, because in DP's demo, you had level 30s in the area just west of Oreburgh. The demo is much different.) Kanto gyms may be in the level 70s. Who knows? It's an unfair comparison if you're comparing GSC's Johto with Hoenn and Sinnoh. The GSC games had two regions you had to go to. RBY, RSE, and DPPt only allowed you to go to one region, so the levels weren't "weak." The reason why FrLg's levels were almost the same (or exactly the same, I don't know. Haven't played Red in years) as RBY's was because the levels were good as they were. They didn't know how to make the levels perfect for two regions then. I think they know better now.

Finnel August 7th, 2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazeshini (Post 4956963)
scroll up the page...and im sure the first few words included "personally i think"

Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean other people can't question it. SilverSmeargleSplatter is right, you can't say you dislike something when you've only seen a fifth of it.

kazeshini August 7th, 2009 11:48 AM

the first gym is done
and question it all day long, im jus gettin laughs from this

JLP_M August 7th, 2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSmeargleSplatter (Post 4956945)
No one here is forcing you to play the game, but when you start going off and claiming that Johto is the weakest region and you haven't even gone past the second gym, you really have no say-so in whether it is or not. It's not even a fair comparison.

that is a good comeback!!!

Sweet Smoochum August 7th, 2009 11:58 AM

How about this? Don't compare Johto to the other regions until you play HGSS. That's when you can start comparing. Deal? =3 That's like comparing Red version to Platinum. XD GSC are the old Johto. The New Shiny Johto of HGSS is amazing/epic. It's okay to compare FrLg to RSE, but not GSC to DPPt. Compare HGSS to Dppt and RSE/FrLg.

Gallade August 7th, 2009 12:00 PM

...How is this a synopsis?

Sweet Smoochum August 7th, 2009 12:04 PM

A synopsis is:

synopsis [sin-op-siss, -seez]
Noun
a brief review or outline of a subject; summary.

His "synopsis."
"Personally, I think they are remaking it, because in my opinion Johto was the weakest region. I don't know about you lot, but I never liked it and didn't even bother getting to the second gym leader when I played it.

The rest were cool though. <^.^>"

kazeshini August 7th, 2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4957067)
How about this? Don't compare Johto to the other regions until you play HGSS. That's when you can start comparing. Deal? =3 That's like comparing Red version to Platinum. XD GSC are the old Johto. The New Shiny Johto of HGSS is amazing/epic. It's okay to compare FrLg to RSE, but not GSC to DPPt. Compare HGSS to Dppt and RSE/FrLg.

ok i can live wid dat but...im alread past the first gym...ill stop at the fifth(to sleep)
and u aint goin all johto maniac on me so i can also live with that.

and this aint a synopsis lol nice work sherlock...nice words hord(sp) in people i hate wen my threads get ignored(even if i spend 2 mins on them) :)

im goin to eat brb.

yankee0724 August 7th, 2009 2:23 PM

look past the fact that the game intrduced a number of new and important features into the pokemon games, and youll find a mediocre game.

the storyline was ehh and the region in general was just...lackluster.


the game itself was just...boring, yet the generation introduced so many new features. i honestly feel thats why people think its the best generation.

everything else about johto was just..ehh

but thats just one persons opinion.

PsychoTines August 7th, 2009 2:31 PM

Johto was my favorite >.> everything from how the starters rocked, to the features, to the good music(best out of all of them IMO), to the fact we got to go BACK to Kanto, and battled Red. It introduced three of my favorite Pokemon too.

Yea, the graphics were terrible. Yea, the Johto region was bland(So was R/B/Y). Sure, it didn't have the greatest story line. And Yes, the game was incredibly easy.
So what if you can beat it in 24hours(on the card) I've beaten it in 12hours then restarted immediatly after. But thats not the point.
The point is even after you beat the game, theres still all of these things to do! Heck, you could breed, pokehunt. Play with the radio. The Bug catching contest? Yea. This also spawned the 'Shiny hunters' deal. My point. when you say this game isn't good it's because you're not looking at the game. Just what it's about. To see how great G/S/C really was, you have to look at EVERYTHING that can be found in the game.

IceSage August 7th, 2009 2:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazeshini (Post 4956570)
personally i think they are remaking it because in my opinion johto was the weakest region, idk about you lot but i neva liked it and didnt even bother getting to the second gym leader when i played it.

the rest were kool though <^.^>
__

Uh, what? Weakest region? I'm not even sure if that makes sense. Pretty much any Pokemon is as strong or as weak as you want it to be.

Tip: You need to level up your Pokemon and use the right TYPE combinations.

Apparently Faulkner's level 7 bird Pokemon were too much for you.

MadaraUchiha. August 7th, 2009 2:41 PM

If you haven't made it to the third gym then you cant say its not hard and boring. The third gym was probally one of the hardest gyms in ALL of the games. Also I beat the game restarted,beat it restarted over and over I say they were the best games of all time. If you think it sucked then thats your opinion BUT SINNOH IS HORRIBLE compared to Johto. How can you say you dont like Lanturn and Mareep.

yankee0724 August 7th, 2009 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoTines (Post 4957556)
Johto was my favorite >.> everything from how the starters rocked, to the features, to the good music(best out of all of them IMO), to the fact we got to go BACK to Kanto, and battled Red. It introduced three of my favorite Pokemon too.

Yea, the graphics were terrible. Yea, the Johto region was bland(So was R/B/Y). Sure, it didn't have the greatest story line. And Yes, the game was incredibly easy.
So what if you can beat it in 24hours(on the card) I've beaten it in 12hours then restarted immediatly after. But thats not the point.
The point is even after you beat the game, theres still all of these things to do! Heck, you could breed, pokehunt. Play with the radio. The Bug catching contest? Yea. This also spawned the 'Shiny hunters' deal. My point. when you say this game isn't good it's because you're not looking at the game. Just what it's about. To see how great G/S/C really was, you have to look at EVERYTHING that can be found in the game.

thanks for basically furthering what i said.lol

storyline was boring but it added lots to the games.

i played through on an emulator the other week...and it wasnt that fun because the storyline just dragged on.

yet platinum doesnt bore me at all. shockingly enough...unlike everybody else on here it seems, hoenn was the best generation in my eyes.

Dominus Temporis August 7th, 2009 3:06 PM

Hmm, interesting topic. I feel that Johto had its ups and downs. The storyline really wasn't that great, no better or worse than any other reason. When you got to Kanto, though, things kinda fell apart, since it was basically "go to next place to fix Broken Bridge to fight Gym leader to get to next place, repeat ad nauseum."

On the other hand, it provided two new types, way better in-battle sprites, genders, and all the other stuff that forms the backbone of competitive play today- future gens really just built on that.

I do feel that it was the weakest region in terms of enemies, though. Whitney was about the major obstacle in the first half of the game, get past Cheaptank and it's smooth sailing from there. I got through the Elite Four with three normally-leveled team members and zero healing items. Really, what's up with that?

kazeshini August 7th, 2009 3:46 PM

wait a second now i am half asleep i realise what i typed.
i sed it was the weakest region...not that the games features were the weakest
i mean to me its boring... you say its graphics aint all that but i could play
pokemon yellow for hours upon hours.

put lets say
dragonite vs tyranitar.

or

pigeott vs noctowl or noctowl vs swellow.


you will soon see that if you put johto against any of its other region counterparts and you will see it is lacking majorly.

put your kanto rival against your johto rival and you will get me


p.s:yaaaaay my b.day today:)

Teapot Turret August 7th, 2009 3:50 PM

No, not really, it's a sequel to FireRed, LeafGreen, Gold and Silver because after you complete the game in HGSS, you are able to travel to the Kanto Region.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 7th, 2009 6:03 PM

It's quite obvious, they are a troll
I think the reason why many people like Johto was because it was in GSC and now HGSS which afterwards you go right to Kanto.
Oh, yea and happy Birthday



:t354:TG

LethalTexture August 7th, 2009 11:59 PM

To those who say Gen II was boring: Just play it all the way through to the battle with Red. Best games in the series, one of the best (handheld) RPGs oif all time.

bobandbill August 8th, 2009 5:44 AM

I don't really see much point in keeping this thread open - if anything, it's half opinons on GSC rather than HG/SS (and since HG/SS hasn't been out yet there's not too much point in judging that), and seeing the thread is based on an opinion formed by limited gameplay (forming an opinion and throwing it about based on so little is kinda silly, really)... well, there's no need for discussion on this, really. Closed.


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