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Co500 August 10th, 2009 6:55 AM

Returning to johto VERY soon
 
If you look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pokémon:_Diamond_and_Pearl:_Galactic_Battles_episodes

Scroll down to the last three episodes, the Mysterious forest which if anyone remembers that was at the start of johto journeys and then look at the last episode the release date 10th of September and if you look at the HG/SS release date it is 12th of September! coincidence? and in most of the ending of the series they always return town they started out in at the start. tell me what you think.

Spinor August 10th, 2009 7:02 AM

I think this is ridiculous. Can you find something that is not Wikipedia that says this?

Jolene August 10th, 2009 7:10 AM

The Sinnoh arc doesn't finish there. It's just that the anime's production company hasn't revealed any episode titles beyond that point.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 10th, 2009 7:41 AM

Tip: never trust wikipedia for anything because anyone can put information on that website


:t354:TG

BDT August 10th, 2009 8:03 AM

Hmm I checked on the episode guide and yes when I saw the last episode Sept 10th, did make me think new Season will start and maybe heading to Johto, as when new games are released in Japan the anime usealy starts same time, but remember the HG/SS are Reamkes and the remakes for Red/Blue (Green) never had something to do with the anime but that doesnt mean that this series wont back to Johto..and we all know the next Movie stars Lugia and Ho-oh so there must be something towards the anime, even the PCP is in the anime are related to the game. So yea this might be the end of the season with Galactic Battles and a start with the new season in Johto. I really hope there will be a cameo of Jimmy (The BOY character from Gold/Silver) and even a cameo with Silver (The Rival) that be class

.hack August 10th, 2009 8:13 AM

If this does happen I hope Ash doesn't star in it.
And if he does I hope he loses Pikachu and gets his old Johto pokemon back (Cyndaquil,Donphan,Bayleef,Heracross,Totodile and Noctowl) it's much better than his current team but they still suck so actually I'm hoping for a new team.

Jorah August 10th, 2009 9:30 AM

They're showing Johto Pokemon now to advertise HGSS, but Ash still hasn't got all the badges and challenged the Sinnoh League yet and Dawn hasn't got all the ribbons, so it's going to be a while until he goes back to Johto, probably quite a few months away, actually. So it's just coincidence that they're airing that particular episode there, it doesn't mean they're going back to Johto.

There isn't anything wrong with what the Wikipedia article is saying, con-11 was just pointing to the episode air date, and then they made an assumption from it himself.

Jolene August 10th, 2009 9:42 AM

Exactly. Unless the writers go off on some massive tangent, Ash will need to compete in the Sinnoh league before he can head off to Johto again, and he's nowhere near there yet - even in the Japanese series.

Unown_ August 10th, 2009 11:07 AM

The episode in question is called "Naty and Natio, the Mysterious Forest". Seems legitimate since Bulbapedia and Pokeani are reporting the same episode title. Wikipedia's info seems to be correct (this time).
But where does it say that Ash and co are going back to Johto? It doesn't seem very realistic since:

- As said earlier in the thread, Ash has yet to collect all the badges, so it wouldn't make any sense for him to be in Johto at all.
- During the start of Johto, Ash and co saw Suicune, but that was resolved in "For Ho-oh the Bells Toll". So.... what mysterious forest?
- DP139 takes place in the Shinou region. Sames goes for DP141. Meaning that Ash and co would leaving for Johto in DP139 be in Johto at DP140 and magically be back to at the battle tower in Shinou at the start of DP141? Though the writers like to make it themselves easy at times by ignoring the laws physics, but when Ash and co travel to one place it takes several episodes, especially when going to other regions.

It doesn't seem to be very likely to me that DP140 will take place in Johto.

Akio123 August 10th, 2009 11:21 AM

See the episode titles are right, but they are promoting Johto Pokemon BECAUSE of HG/SS.>_> This does not mean they are ending Sinnoh right now. They still have the penultimate battle with Team Galactic, Volkner (and by extension HOPEFULLY a visit by my darling Jasmine^^), the Grand Festival, and finaly, the Sinnoh League.

carter756978 August 10th, 2009 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BDT (Post 4967086)
but remember the HG/SS are Reamkes and the remakes for Red/Blue (Green) never had something to do with the anime

They went back to kanto.... how is tht not to do with FR/LG?

Nyjil da Kid August 10th, 2009 2:30 PM

Well, I'm just throwing an idea out there but is there any possibility
of this being a Special episode promoting HG/SS. Why would he just give up on Sinnoh when he has ONE badge left and go to Johto? Maybe this 'special episode' might feature Jimmy or maybe even Soul! This is just an idea but he's not going to Johto soon. What about Team Galactic???

Akio123 August 10th, 2009 2:50 PM

^^^ Exactly! They can't randomly drop one storyline to focus on another. I mean Sinnoh is innovative, but that is rather pointless dropping a region all together.

Vernikova August 10th, 2009 3:45 PM

He'll go to Johto after Sinnoh. Or maybe the Battle Frontier will actually be to the east of Snowpoint City and Mt. Coronet will get an arc.

kingofjokers August 10th, 2009 5:52 PM

It is probably true but its wikipedia so you cant really trust it

Satoshi Ookami August 10th, 2009 10:35 PM

I agree with returning to Johto...
I'd bet on Battle Frontier
But I don't know if it'll be at the date which is on Wiki...

Akio123 August 10th, 2009 11:27 PM

You guys also realize there seems to be a Battle Frontier unique to Johto right?

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml

Mitchman August 11th, 2009 12:01 AM

Johto isn't going to pop up in the Anime for a long time. The frontier in platinum was basically confirmed on tv tokyo to be located in Sinnoh and if the frontier of Johto pops up that would be very late into the show.

weedle_mchairybug August 11th, 2009 6:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4970059)
Johto isn't going to pop up in the Anime for a long time. The frontier in platinum was basically confirmed on tv tokyo to be located in Sinnoh and if the frontier of Johto pops up that would be very late into the show.

Care to post a source on that? I mean, considering the fact that not only has Ash not even fought Volkner yet, but they haven't even announced their arriving at Sunyshore City yet, or heck, even the Galactic finale, for that matter, they shouldn't even know whether the writers are going to be placing the BF in Sinnoh or not.

Akio123 August 11th, 2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by weedle_mchairybug (Post 4970802)
Care to post a source on that? I mean, considering the fact that not only has Ash not even fought Volkner yet, but they haven't even announced their arriving at Sunyshore City yet, or heck, even the Galactic finale, for that matter, they shouldn't even know whether the writers are going to be placing the BF in Sinnoh or not.

Well if Palmer is showing up, that should mean something. IF (and I do mean if) this happens, I wonder where? I mean does this mean they are going to have some extended stay in Sinnoh. I mean they go compete in the frontier while making the trek to Sunnyshore, but that seems a bit unorganized.

Mitchman August 12th, 2009 3:06 AM

Weedle if you haven't noticed on thew tv tokyo site the summary for DP141 more or less says how palmer comes from Sinnoh's Battle Frontier.

Mew~ August 12th, 2009 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4970059)
Johto isn't going to pop up in the Anime for a long time. The frontier in platinum was basically confirmed on tv tokyo to be located in Sinnoh and if the frontier of Johto pops up that would be very late into the show.

well hoenns battle frontier was in kanto explain that oh and about palmer think of the frontier brains of hoenn there in kanto two...

SkyPioneer August 12th, 2009 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvancedK9 (Post 4966868)
I think this is ridiculous. Can you find something that is not Wikipedia that says this?

Touche. ,

weedle_mchairybug August 13th, 2009 3:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4974709)
Weedle if you haven't noticed on thew tv tokyo site the summary for DP141 more or less says how palmer comes from Sinnoh's Battle Frontier.

Just because Palmer was described to be from Sinnoh's Battle Frontier does NOT mean that he won't end up being in Johto. If I must remind you, the Battle Frontier people that Ash fought in the 8th-9th seasons (AKA the Battle Frontier Saga) were from Hoenn, yet Ash fought them in Kanto instead of Hoenn.

Mitchman August 13th, 2009 3:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon League Champion (Post 4974729)
well hoenns battle frontier was in kanto explain that oh and about palmer think of the frontier brains of hoenn there in kanto two...

Actually the frontier was moved to Kanto for 2 more or less reasons:
No reason to stick em all in one tiny island.
Kanto was used as it had importance to ash not to mention it was used to advertise the 2 games before emerald. Sure emerald was out by then but they were advertising both at the same time. In the anime the frontier of Hoenn as well was referred to as the Kanto Battle frontier not the Hoenn Battle Frontier. For the Platinum frontier its 100% sure that they will stick in Sinnoh.
http://serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=10237119&postcount=353
This is pretty much the summary. So yeah definetely in sinnoh.
As I said weedle it was called the Kanto frontier for a reason. It was in Kanto.

weedle_mchairybug August 13th, 2009 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4978995)

Actually the frontier was moved to Kanto for 2 more or less reasons:
No reason to stick em all in one tiny island.
Kanto was used as it had importance to ash not to mention it was used to advertise the 2 games before emerald. Sure emerald was out by then but they were advertising both at the same time. In the anime the frontier of Hoenn as well was referred to as the Kanto Battle frontier not the Hoenn Battle Frontier. For the Platinum frontier its 100% sure that they will stick in Sinnoh.
http://serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=10237119&postcount=353
This is pretty much the summary. So yeah definetely in sinnoh.
As I said weedle it was called the Kanto frontier for a reason. It was in Kanto.

Ok, though the writers should really have tried to replace May with Leaf (or at least give Leaf some sort of appearance. I mean, she got even less than Brendan or Lucas, and they only got Movie Cameos in the World of Pokemon.). I mean, the only REAL advertizement for Emerald for that saga would have been the Battle Frontier anyways.

Still, you'll never know. Maybe they'll just meet Palmer as a COTD and not even mention Ash going to the Battle Frontier.

Mitchman August 14th, 2009 2:43 AM

Jun will most likely be there as well during the battle seeing he appears in the before episode so a mention of the frontier would pop up. I mean ash beating palmer this early in front of Jun is near impossible.

weedle_mchairybug August 14th, 2009 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4983470)
Jun will most likely be there as well during the battle seeing he appears in the before episode so a mention of the frontier would pop up. I mean ash beating palmer this early in front of Jun is near impossible.

I didn't mean having an actual battle with Palmer when I said he might end up being no more than your average COTD, I meant like how Ash met Bruno, Lance, Cynthia (Mismagius episode doesn't count, as that was a dream), Lucian, and Aaron without actually battling.

Who's That Pokemon? August 14th, 2009 2:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 4966998)
Tip: never trust wikipedia for anything because anyone can put information on that website


:t354:TG

Yes that is true, however the Admins and Moderators are always on the ball to change anything that is changed to complete rubbish.

Mitchman August 14th, 2009 4:21 AM

But weedle your thoughts have a flaw. Its a known fact that ash will indeed battle palmer as his team of dragonite rhyperior and milotic is pretty much confirmed. Battling palmer now and losing to him in front of Jun would be enough of a reason for the locale of the frontier to be given in this episode.

weedle_mchairybug August 14th, 2009 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4983688)
But weedle your thoughts have a flaw. Its a known fact that ash will indeed battle palmer as his team of dragonite rhyperior and milotic is pretty much confirmed. Battling palmer now and losing to him in front of Jun would be enough of a reason for the locale of the frontier to be given in this episode.

Let's see... He lost against Lorelei, Drake, and Agatha, and not once did he even attempt to try and challenge the Elite 4 as a whole or try to win the Pokemon League at the start.

Besides, they're going to end up going to Johto, anyways, since contrary to popular opinion, the Sinnoh Battle Frontier simply will not be enough to just finish off DP and get to the new Generation (As there are five Battle Frontier Locales, and assuming that Generation 5 is even coming, it certainly would take much longer than before to start promoting it, if the lack of a Gen V Pokemon in the Arceus movie is anything to go by. Heck, they didn't even have a sihlouette of a 5th gen pokemon, which they would have had by now, especially seeing how they've already covered all of the unlockable Pokemon.). They'll need to go to Johto to do their Battle Frontier as well (It serves as a good way to promote the remakes). Heck, by the time HGSS is released, Platinum will be far outdated [and by extension, the Sinnoh Battle Frontier)

Mitchman August 14th, 2009 8:23 AM

Going to Johto yes I never denied they would. Just the reason won't be for the Sinnoh Frontier. Only happening if the buildings are unison and the battles are double battles or Jun has his set of brains and ash his his.

weedle_mchairybug August 14th, 2009 9:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchman (Post 4984337)
Going to Johto yes I never denied they would. Just the reason won't be for the Sinnoh Frontier. Only happening if the buildings are unison and the battles are double battles or Jun has his set of brains and ash his his.

Well, even IF they aren't going to go there for the Sinnoh Frontier, they'll still end up having to go there anyways for the Johto Frontier (Since it's already confirmed that HGSS is going to have a Battle Frontier for whatever reason.). They're going to need to drag it on for as long as it needs to (assuming, of course, that the people in charge of Pokemon ever plan on doing a 5th Generation, much less including Ash in it.)

Pikachu fan September 10th, 2009 7:16 PM

Ash is not going to johto
 
Okay, the video below shows that ash will not be going to johto but
there will b a season with May as the main character

the URL is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCv0XBkVz7c

watch it and the proof that the pictures in this video are real
is in pokemon battle frontier where in the last episode May said shes going to
travel to johto for contests and i think that Soul will be appearing as a
Recurring character in the season too.

DonRoyale September 10th, 2009 7:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikachu fan (Post 5102299)
Okay, the video below shows that ash will not be going to johto but
there will b a season with May as the main character

the URL is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCv0XBkVz7c

watch it and the proof that the pictures in this video are real
is in pokemon battle frontier where in the last episode May said shes going to
travel to johto for contests and i think that Soul will be appearing as a
Recurring character in the season too.

Get your facts straight, that video was posted two years ago. If they were going to do that it would've been announced by now. Proof, my ass.

Besides, this thread is pointless. The Mysterious Forest episode was on two weeks ago and it disproved the OP's whole theory.

Freakin' bull stories. Have some patience. If they're going to Johto, they'll announce it. Until then, sit on your asses and wait. >_>

Pikachu fan September 10th, 2009 7:23 PM

oh right sorry i didnt look at the post date
oops so sorry but that season would be a very good idea though

Unown_ September 10th, 2009 9:14 PM

The episode in question already aired, so this discussion has ended.


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