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machomuu August 11th, 2009 3:57 PM

Did you really beat the E4
 
The first time through Platinum, did you beat the E4 fairly? That means:
-No Ubers
-No legends
-No pokemon traded from other games
if you did, pat yourself on the back :).

theDIRTYAVENGER August 11th, 2009 3:58 PM

Houndoom
Empoleon
Leafeon
Luxray
and a bunch of others I can't recall, maybe Kadabra.

EDIT: Bellessom was in there too, but was WEAK.

Druid August 11th, 2009 4:06 PM

I tried to beat it with my Dialga, but then decided against it afte a few tries. I finally beat it with my proper team, and if eveolutionary trades don't count, I beat it fairly.

Gengar
Golem
Gyarados
Luxray
Machamp
Rapidash

EagleVision1999 August 11th, 2009 4:20 PM

No I didn't beat them fairly in Platinum. I used only strong Pokémon I traded from my Pearl because I wanted to get finished soon ( hurried a bit after the Galactic plot was over...best part of the story) I did however beat them fairly in Pearl and enjoyed it a lot.

Megaman765 August 11th, 2009 4:24 PM

Well I had orgin giritina on my first time against the elite four (Mostly to wall the other trainer while I heal my fainted pokemon... friggin garchomp.) After that I did it legitly with my current team

Fenrir Reki August 11th, 2009 4:32 PM

I was too lazy to beat them fairly so I used pokemon traded from my diamond. It made things much faster and it made me waste less time.

Greene1516 August 11th, 2009 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 4973009)
The first time through Platinum, did you beat the E4 fairly? That means:
-No Ubers
-No legends
-No pokemon traded from other games
if you did, pat yourself on the back :).

10 revives and 10 potions and it's a piece of cake for my level 47 team.

thegeneticway August 11th, 2009 4:36 PM

Well, kinda. My Giratina was used for stalling so I could heal my pokemon, and sometimes attacked

mew² August 11th, 2009 4:40 PM

Duh. I used my level 100 Shiny Charizard! xD I got it from Platinum, but not mine ;)

Asgard August 11th, 2009 4:45 PM

Kinda. I got a Feebas (level 1) from a friend... does that count as trading from other games? D: It... did come knowing Surf, Waterfall, and Ice Beam, though. -w-;;
...But everything else I got over the course of the game! :'D And I beat Diamond's E4 with those restrictions!

Riggzyd August 11th, 2009 4:52 PM

My only ubers/legends were Giratina who sucked
and MeSpirit for spamming Yawn on SpiritTomb O.o

But i can beat it without legends/ubers

machomuu August 11th, 2009 4:52 PM

Well, I said Platinum because they're ten times as hard on Platinum, they were pretty easy on DP.

Riggzyd August 11th, 2009 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegeneticway (Post 4973177)
Well, kinda. My Giratina was used for stalling so I could heal my pokemon, and sometimes attacked

Ya same reason giratina=high defense lol

Vulpix_Trainer August 11th, 2009 5:06 PM

Yeah, I did, But I used a ridiculous amount of revives, potions/ Max restores. Managed to pull it off with 3 pokemon

-Luxray
-Espeon
-Umbreon

My perfect Team of three <3 When I beat Cynthia the only pokemon I had left standing after the fight, was my Umbreon with 20 HP left XD

MiniEggs August 11th, 2009 5:08 PM

nope. my strongest then was girantina. i cheated :(

Riggzyd August 11th, 2009 5:11 PM

Oh ya i forgot to mention

Used like 30 Revives
Used like 50 200 hp Potions (Forgot what theyre called)
Did i mention i had a team full of level 50's?

IceSage August 11th, 2009 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 4973009)
The first time through Platinum, did you beat the E4 fairly? That means:
-No Ubers
-No legends
-No pokemon traded from other games
if you did, pat yourself on the back :).

Under your definition of "fair" -- No, I didn't. I had a Leafeon and Charizard that I obtained via trade early on in the game. Plus I used Dialga a couple of times.

I didn't cheat or anything, and it was still a pretty tough fight. I consider my fight with them "fair," and if anything, they had the advantage since most of their Pokemon were a lot higher than mine.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 11th, 2009 6:31 PM

Umm yea in my Pearl I use Empoleon, Drifblim, Luxray and Staraptor and in Platinum I used those 4 plus Gengar and Rapidash


:t354:TG

Mages4ever August 11th, 2009 6:33 PM

I beat mine "Fairly"
But I kinda cheated in a way by EV training them a bit. (With whatever was left at that point)

theDIRTYAVENGER August 11th, 2009 6:39 PM

Giratina is very useful or the E4. High Defense+Awesome Attacks= WIN.
Also, the three lake pokemon are terrible against the E4, for future reference.

PsychoTines August 11th, 2009 6:40 PM

Heehee.
I did xD
Torterra, Garchomp(saved my ass), Floatzel, Houndoom, Luxray, and Lucario.
None of them we're over 65...not even after I beat the E4 o.o I wasted a LOT of revives...

Munch Dog August 11th, 2009 7:03 PM

Pretty much, I just had a Ninetales that my friend traded to me (though it was a vulpix when I first got it and I did have to train it quite a bit) and my Flareon from Diamond (which I also had to train quite a bit to make it battle worthy) The other 4 were all pokemon I captured early on in the game including my starter.

Zerrah. August 11th, 2009 7:40 PM

I've only beaten the Elite 4 like that in Pearl. But I was too tempted in Platinum.

Wings Don't Cry August 11th, 2009 7:50 PM

I beat the E4 with:

Infernape
Luxray
vaporeon
Lucario

I also used a lot of revives on battle with Cynthia everyone else was easy.

Arc August 11th, 2009 8:02 PM

Yay I'm one of those people who beat it fairly! =D
my team was:

Garchomp
Starraptor
Empoleon
Luxray

Divine~Deoxys August 11th, 2009 11:58 PM

just seen this the day before i challenged them!
So, of course i didn't cheat. Can't beat them the 2nd time even if i do cheat.

Did it with this:
Rotom
Froslass
Empoleon

ultimate resistances

luxray_12 August 12th, 2009 3:13 AM

i did it fair and square in platinum. my team:
torterra, gyarados, gliscor and flareon.
they were all around lvl 57-58.

Mimikyu402 August 12th, 2009 3:44 AM

My team trhough platinum E4 first time:

Ninetails(traded vulpix egg to plat at the begining of the game)
Lopunnny(from eterna forest)
Rotom(from old cheateau)
Glaceon(eevee from bebe)
Hmslav
Hmslav

scyfer August 12th, 2009 5:44 PM

i always beat my pokemon games fairly
except on the occasional trading in from other games :)

Palamon August 12th, 2009 5:49 PM

I only used one legendary, and that was Giratina. >_> For stalling.
In diamond, I used Uxie and Azelf.
I wish I didn't.
It's too late to do them over.

Logiedan August 12th, 2009 5:54 PM

It would've been difficult without my full restores and revives.. : D.
Team:
Garchomp
Staraptor
Torterra
Luxray
Gastrodon

Black Ice August 12th, 2009 8:19 PM

Infernape, Staraptor, and Alakazam, nothing else. Alakazam was a trade-back from my friend so it shouldn't really count as a trade =|

MMundy777 August 12th, 2009 8:24 PM

yup!

Torterra
Jolteon
Flareon
Vaporeon
Gallade

didnt want giratina, and had no other idea for 6th pokemon

took me forever to breed the eevee's with good natures lol

Dillon_68 August 12th, 2009 9:22 PM

Yep, beat it first time through. (Luckily)

Empoleon
Roserade
Mamoswine
Gallade
Crobat
Kricketune

Weatherman, Kiyoshi August 12th, 2009 9:46 PM

I had my Traded Persian , but it was Lv. 28? It was a staller for revives, etc.

:3

So yes, I did beat them fairly.
I used Will, Power, Held Items, and LOTSA Hyper potions. :D

Cloche August 12th, 2009 10:23 PM

Hm... I beat them just fine... I did have Ethers, Hyper Potions, Full Restore, and a few Elixers. But, I found it fairly easy...
My party consisted of
- Gardevior
- Mismagius
- Gyarados (My pwetty shiny)
- Infernape
- Lickitounge
- Drifblim

Niprop August 12th, 2009 10:27 PM

...At one point, I thought it would be cool to beat the Elite4 with just Porygon2 in Platinum. It took a few tries, but in the end, I won!

My team was:

PORYGON (Porygon2)
Lvl. 100

Moves:

Psychic
Tri-Attack
Discharge
Recover

Taemin August 12th, 2009 11:11 PM

I beat them on Platinum just fine without cheating, or using Ubers.. Cynthina gave me some trouble at the end, but I made it past her eventually. x__x;

I can't remember my exact team.. but I know I had my Luxray, Rapidash, and Staravia with me. <3

Ninja Caterpie August 12th, 2009 11:14 PM

Beat it all easily except from Cynthia.

And guess what gave me the win? My LEVEL 17 STARAVIA. Intimidate FTW!

iCrash August 13th, 2009 6:04 AM

Its really not that hard to beat the Elite Four is it? :S

Maybe i overtrain my pokemon before completing the game, but ive never really found it much of a challenge >.<

Gulpin August 13th, 2009 6:23 AM

I didn't want to use legendaries, as I have been for the past years. My team was:

Empoleon
Luxray
Houndoom
Togekiss
Roserade
Gallade

It was fairly easy too:
Houndoom/Togekiss >> Aaron
Roserade/Empoleon >> Bertha
Empoleon/Togekiss >> Flint
All >> Lucian and Cynthia

Cherrim August 13th, 2009 6:25 AM

I suppose not. At the veeery beginning of the game (as soon as I could trade), I sent over a Cherubi egg and a Nosepass egg. So technically I traded Pokémon in. But I don't really count that since it's not that hard to obtain both of those Pokémon fairly early in the game anyway.

Otherwise, I didn't use any help. I... might have brought Giratina with me while I fought the E4 but I honestly can't remember if I did or not, now. o_O; If I did, I never used it. Too low a level.

It still took me like 8 tries to beat the E4 thought. ;_;'

Zelda August 13th, 2009 12:16 PM

I haven't exactly beaten the Elite Four in Pokémon Platinum yet, but I plan to beat it without ubers or legendaries. I won't be trading over any pokémon either, so I guess I'll give myself a pat on the back. o-o

I usually don't ever beat the Elite Four with legendaries either. I like to use normal pokémon rather than legends, but sometimes I'll use ubers. I don't really see the difference in it when I have a weak team so...

Though if I don't train to a good enough level for the Elite Four, I might have a hard time completing it as the Elite Four has gotten tougher.

donkeyman August 13th, 2009 12:54 PM

I guess not as I had Giratina as a buffer. To be Aaron I mostly used my Flareon except on Heracross where I used Staraptor and a fly attack. Bertha is where I had the most trouble. I started off with Pachirisu and used superfang and then I sent in staraptor with a fly attack, simply because normally (the last few attempts) using that fly made her change to Golem lol. Anyways, most of her pokemon were beat by my Floatzel using water pulse until it fainted then I used Empoleon and Surf. Flint was easy again, just stuck with Floatzel and Empoleon. Lucian was easy, no problem there, could handle it with mostly my Pachirisu just super fanging twice then a thunderbolt. Cynthia was the hardest, Spiritomb I ended up getting low with Pachirisu and then she fainted so I Changed for floatzel and used water pulse to kill the Spiritomb. Roserade I took care of with my Flareon. Togekiss was gone with my revived Pachirisu. Lucario took a couple of revives, first tried to kill it with Pachirisu then I remembered the weakness of Lucario so I sent out my Floatzel and just kept using Rock Smash, unless my health was low then I'd use a full restore. Garchomp was the hardest of them for me. By this time the only pokemon I had left (unfainted) were my Floatzel and Giratina. So for about 15 times in a row I had to keep using full restore on my floatzel until finally the Garchomp used Flamethrower it's about now I realise water pulse has no PP so I had to keep using aqua jet which wasn't as strong. So everytime Garchomp would use Flamethrower or Giga Impact, I'd attack and if it used Earthquake or Dragon Rush a full restore was in order. I kept using Giratina as time to revive pokemon and kept at it, cos my Floatzel would faint every now and then. I eventually beat Garchomp with Floatzel's Aqua Jet, took twice as long as it should of as Cynthia used a Full Restore :p. Anyways lastly for Milotic, I knew it was best to revive Pachirisu, by now I had revived Giratina, Empoleon, Floatzel and Staraptor so I revived pachirisu then made her full health and went for the kill, had to revive pachi a few more times as well mostly using the giratina buffer. So basically no I didn't beat them fairly apparently :p.

AlphaMightyena August 13th, 2009 1:57 PM

why are traded pokemon consedired cheating? and fair, is when your pokemon is higher than thiers. anyway's onto the team thing

Mightyena
Honchkrow
Absol
houndoom
Spritomb
Lucario ( for confuseing reasons)

elmocha August 13th, 2009 9:00 PM

yes but i grinded for like 10 hours lol, got all of my pokemon to 67 before challenging the e4.

*pats self on back"

An Imperialist named Dak August 13th, 2009 11:20 PM

Magnezone
Vaporeon
Rhyperior
Absol
Tropius
Dusknoir

all 59. too easy.

Camisado August 13th, 2009 11:24 PM

I did trade Pokémon in but that was right at the beginning of the game after they'd hatched o.o I trained them up in-game.

My final team was:
  • Infernape
  • Froslass
  • Gastrodon
  • Pikachu
  • Leafeon
  • Honchkrow

Luck August 13th, 2009 11:37 PM

I'll keep it short this time. No, I didn't. My team would be dead without my Another forme Giratina.

kohei August 14th, 2009 3:32 AM

Yup, was pretty easy with my Pt scenario team.
And a lot of healing items. Lots and lots of it.

I really shouldn't have attempted the E4 with a team which had an average level of 51.

beauty. proletariat August 14th, 2009 3:42 AM

I owned it before I even battled the champion. :/

Alakazam
Infernape
Gengar
Magmortar
Yanmega
Staraptor

THATS RIGHT XD LAST POKEMON WAS STARAPTOR :) They were all level 60-70

LegendMaster97 August 14th, 2009 3:51 AM

Staraptor
Infernape
Tentacruel
Golem
egg(riolu) but that legendary didn't count because i didn't use him.
Steelix

@World August 14th, 2009 5:12 AM

My team was: Infernape, Luxray, Staraptor, Tentacruel,LickyLicky,Bibarel(took out Berthas entire team :))

LuckyCharm August 14th, 2009 3:13 PM

Giratina is very useful or the E4. High Defense+Awesome Attacks= WIN.
Also, the three lake pokemon are terrible against the E4, for future reference.

Don_Jon_91 August 14th, 2009 3:26 PM

haha yeah i'm probably not going to "really" beat the E4. I'll definitely use traded pokes.


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