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5qwerty August 25th, 2009 10:31 AM

5qwerty's Pixel Art
 
The main reason I started this thread is because I want to improve my spriting skills, so I need feedback from you guys. I really want to improve because that will make my hack more attractive it is crucial to my time here on PC.

Please leave some Constructive Criticism!

My Pokedex for an upcoming project (All Scratches):
Spoiler:

#1 Thordoghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/thordo10.pngA Pokemon based on a dog, and thorns.
#4 Flartlehttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/flartl10.pngA Pokemon based on a turtle, and a steam spa thingy.
#7 Sailughttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/sailug10.pngA Pokemon based on a slug, and a boat
#8 Submashelhttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/submas10.pngA Pokemon based on a snail, and a submarine.
#10 Badylughttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/badylu10.pngA ladybug thingy.


Old/Not recent:
Spoiler:
A Corsola Pre-evo: No Smile, or smile?
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/corsly10.png
A Cacnea Alternate evolution: It's not doing what you think it is.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/kingkt10.png
A random trainer.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/traine11.png
A random thing with a shell on its head and a Ball thing for its tail.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/blue10.png

My First Revamp - A Chikorita
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/chikor10.png
Another Revamp - Bayleef
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/baylee10.png
A Disguise (My first)
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/poligu10.png
A Disguise/Whatever (My worst)
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/ekanti10.png


Tiles:
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/tiles10.png
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/mart10.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/sawem_10.png
Top row: Grass (under that is Pokemon Grass), Mountain, a civilian house, Pokemon Center, and road.
Bottom row: Sand Road, Tree, House, and Gym.
The Pokemart will be like the Center.
Okay, Pokemart added, and House.

The reason they look like they're from another game is because I sprited in a similar style to those of Shiny Gold's (and copied the palette of course). But they are not edited or ripped, they are from scratch.

AND DON' STEAL!!!
If you actually use them, give credit to me, please.
Other:
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/haunte10.png Haunter for something else.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/grass_10.png
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/cactle10.png
Tell me what you think and tell me where to improve on.

Vednix August 25th, 2009 10:52 AM

Ok.

Corsola Pre Evo: The only thing I can see here is that there are dark outlines at the top of the...tail/hair thingy, which doesn't suit when on the actual body there are no dark outline on the top of the head.

Cacnea Alt Evo: The anatomy looks a little odd, but thats just my opinion. The shading is good here though.

Trainer: There are a lot fo things wrong here. First off, is he supposed to have ridiculously long arms? Either that or his legs are WAY too short. It looks like hs is facing towards the screen, then his body tilting to face the characters in the bottom right (as that's where the character would be.) The shading is alright, but there need sot be more shading on the trousers.

Random Thing: THe shading looks alright, but isnt the light supposed to come from the top right? I thought it did :S.

Anyway, they're good, but shading and anatomy needs some work ;)

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 11:13 AM

Thanks, I will try to improve.

And just to make it clear, a Pokemon/Trainer Faces the Bottom left, and sorry, I never thought the Arms were that long. (He was that kid from Shorts who wished for long arms LOL)

Esper August 25th, 2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5035195)
The main reason I started this thread is because I want to improve my spriting skills, so I need feedback from you guys. I really want to improve because that will make my hack more attractive it is crucial to my time here on PC.

Please leave some Constructive Criticism!

A Corsola Pre-evo: No Smile, or smile?
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/corsly10.png
A Cacnea Alternate evolution: It's not doing what you think it is.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/kingkt10.png
A random trainer.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/traine11.png
A random thing with a shell on its head and a Ball thing for its tail.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/blue10.png

Tell me what you think and tell me where to improve on.

Your Corsola pre-evo gets the general feel right, but some things are bugging me. Its "horn" doesn't have the same shading as the rest of it and it's outline should not be so even all the way around. And it's "facing" forward which is a little weird. It's also a bit too small if you ask me. I don't think even the "baby" pokemon are that small. Oh, and go with the smile.

The Cacnea alternate doesn't really have shading, just varying gradients (darker upper arms and lower legs, lighter torso and "hands") which doesn't give it the right kind of depth and leaves it looking flat. The horizontal line between the head and crown doesn't help this either.

Your trainer has long arms and short legs. The top half looks like it's at or around 3/4, but the legs are symmetrical so they seem to be facing forward.

Shell-head-ball-tail is kind of plain. It looks like two ovals stuck together without any real theme joining them together. Since its ball tail doesn't look like a tail you should either make it more recognizable or get rid of it entirely since it's not helping the sprite overall.

Hope that wasn't too much at once. Keep at it.

5qwerty August 25th, 2009 11:33 AM

*sniff* Okay, then I never actually thought of it they way you explained it, I never thought that the Cactus looked flat, but now that you said it, it sort of does.

I understand your feeling about the Corsola Pre-Evo, I'll just move the eyes. And when you say the shading is not the same, you mean that it's not using the same shading style, right? I sort of don't get what you mean by the outline thing.

The Trainer was my first Trainer so... yeah.

The Ball thing was supposed to have a body, but then I rushed and gave it a stone.

5qwerty August 26th, 2009 10:10 AM

Consecutive Posting is allowed right? I updated...

NikNaks August 26th, 2009 10:20 AM

The revamps are pretty good, but you need to do more work on editing the shading. If you look at Bayleef's hind leg, for example, I can see that you've just recoloured it, as the very dark dithered colour stands out quite badly. Also, the outline is a bit wrong on Chikorita's head. It's a bit too light in places.

5qwerty August 26th, 2009 10:39 AM

Okay, thanks.
Bayleef's hind leg was supposed to be mostly brown, but then I thought it looked bad, so yeah.

.Tactic. August 26th, 2009 11:46 AM

The disguises and revamps are awesome :)
But the trainer is strangely shaped, and the Corsola prevo's outline is wierd!

Esper August 26th, 2009 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5035336)
*sniff* Okay, then I never actually thought of it they way you explained it, I never thought that the Cactus looked flat, but now that you said it, it sort of does.

I understand your feeling about the Corsola Pre-Evo, I'll just move the eyes. And when you say the shading is not the same, you mean that it's not using the same shading style, right? I sort of don't get what you mean by the outline thing.

Whoa. Slow to respond there, me. I meant the shading on the pre-evo's spike looks like the light it coming from directly above and not from the upper left like the body's light source. The outline on it should match the body's outline, i.e., lighter on the side facing the light source. If you're going to change the face to make it not looking forward I suggest you also shift the feet. For instance, you could show a hind leg (if its got more than two legs, dunno) or make one oh-so-slightly larger to give it the appearance of being closer.

Hope that helps.

As for your revamps, they look good, but like NikNaks said, you don't really need dithering, particularly on Dratini since it's supposed to be all smooth.

5qwerty August 27th, 2009 5:41 AM

Oh, okay, thanks. I will try to improve based upon what you have just said.

mervyn797 August 28th, 2009 2:06 AM

the random trainer and cancea or whatever it is, is not good. make a bit of outline on the random trainer. and bit of shading too!

5qwerty August 28th, 2009 4:48 AM

There is shading on both of them, and outlines too. I suggest you look carefully before criticizing.

Firebird306 September 2nd, 2009 12:38 AM

Shellhead - Such an inventive title you've got there, with the top of its head and the ball tail, try making it appear more round by adding darker tones, perhaps even a pixel next to the outline. Might I ask why you have some of the outline in red? The ball tail could do with an extra shade or two.

ROFL Cacnea Evo - I thought it was doing that, but the shading is splendid on this sprite, the only area of improvement might be its outline (lighter lines in lighter places) and its 'hands'. XD

Corsola Pre Evo - It's a good start, but try editing it so its not completely 2D and facing us, like maybe some perspective on it? Try improving on the shading to give it a more realistic effect (dw I have trouble with roundish sprites as well).

Keep up the good stuff. ^.^

5qwerty September 2nd, 2009 4:41 AM

Yeah, thanks, I have made some new Fakemon but cannot upload them because it is on another computer, I will try to upload them.

5qwerty September 4th, 2009 12:00 PM

I updated with some new Fake Pokemon. Some tiles will be coming in a few minutes.

06s23 September 4th, 2009 1:12 PM

I Really like the pre-evo of corsola-(no mouth is better if you ask me)
Im not a great fan of fakemon but these seem to be coming along nicely,
Keep practicing.
I also like your revamp of politoed lol :)
The slug and snail things look like beliaveable pokemon and would work well
I think abit more colour variation/ or detail on SOME fakemon would do them good....
As for the rest.. they are getting there so keep at it and the best of look :)

5qwerty September 4th, 2009 1:16 PM

Thank you for your feedback, but even I don't really think they look official.
But which Fakemon need more variation, could you name them out. (I bet it's the Ladybug)

As for tiles, I'm having trouble uploading right now.

Cloche September 4th, 2009 1:32 PM

Hm... the shading kind of looks like "cell shading" on anime to me, instead of pixel shading.
And the traner looks like elastic man.
I love Corsola with a smile, keeps it looking like it's evolved form. (I'm a sucker for corsola XD ) Although you might wanna make the top coral part match the color it is. The outline almost looks black.
I love the Revamps.
Overall, they are pretty good. ^,^ Just a few tiny things, that are easy to get the hang of.
the anatomy is only a problem on the trainer it seems.
Keep it up. <3

5qwerty September 4th, 2009 1:45 PM

Thanks you for that boost of confidence, just something to ask, what does Cell Shading mean? I know who Cell is, but I actually never got to the Cell Games Saga.

As for the trainer, it was my first, so you wouldn't really expect much.

lx_theo September 4th, 2009 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5076026)
Thanks you for that boost of confidence, just something to ask, what does Cell Shading mean? I know who Cell is, but I actually never got to the Cell Games Saga.

As for the trainer, it was my first, so you wouldn't really expect much.


I really doubt their referring to that. I believe they're talking about a style of shading. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please

Cloche September 4th, 2009 2:10 PM

Cell shading, is the type of shading that is used in anime and cartoons. I use it in my drawings. This is cell shading, as seen in one of my works.
It has nothing to do with Cell from video games.

5qwerty September 5th, 2009 10:27 AM

Oh, I see now. I thought you meant from DBZ...
So you mean there's Cell Shading on the Water Starters, right?

Cloche September 5th, 2009 4:02 PM

Yes. But, sometimes, pixel shading may look like Cell shading, because of lack of dithering. I don't mean it looks "bad" I think it looks good actually. Just something I noticed. ^,^
I actually really like your pixels. <3

= GPR = September 6th, 2009 7:56 AM

Revamps look great. on surface view, i don't see anything wrong with them. Nice job, btw, on the leaves.

Now, your project sprites seem to have the right idea with the shading and the outlining, but the anatomy is just a bit too blocky for my preference.

Thordog and badylug may need some shading near the legs. This shading isn't for diffusing light/dark spots made by shading, but instead, for giving the body and anatomy more structure. This technique is called chiaroscuro. What it does it make the sprite look more "3D". By adding a line of a darker tone, it makes an extension of the legs. In that respect, it pretty much makes it so the sprite doesn't have four little stubs coming out of his belly.

As for the shading, it's pretty much on track, but it's a bit rigid, such as on the snail evo's shell, or on flartle. When the anatomy is round, you want to make the shading more rounded as well.

Overall, your sprites are not bad at all. They have some work needed, but they are getting there.

I would rate thorndog a 5/10. He needs more definition for his legs. The same can be said for badylug, it needs more leg defintion, but it's eyes are also a bit strange. So i give badylug a 4/10.

Flartle gets a 6/10. His shading is good, but there needs to be more of a roundness on the shell, and the head is a bit too light overall.

Slug gets a 7/10. It's a bit cylindrical, but is a good sprite overall. You could maybe improve this sprite by lightenting the outline of the yellow to a more brownish tone. Especially between the blue. As for the snail, i give it a 8/10. Defintely your best. Again, just round the shading a bit more. Also, i'd recommend curving the left antennae beneath the eye, only because it looks a bit to rigid going strait up. I like the idea of the other eye wrapping around it though, and recommend you keep that anatomy factor.

I'll leave you with that, since it's a mouthful to write, and an earful to read... (that sound's funny actually, but is technically true on the internet...)

You have some good work here, and good ideas. You just need to keep touching them up! Keep trying though... and of course...

Keep Spriting!

5qwerty September 7th, 2009 10:37 AM

4, 5 ,6, 7, 8! (lol)

Yeah, thanks guys, I always thought I wasn't that good, I'll get working on it.

Kam the Narwhal September 7th, 2009 11:06 AM

The one that bothers me the most is Submashel.

the eyestalks look plain outright weird, and the outlining is way too dark. The outlining on the portion of head near the stalks is very crooked and jagged (3-1-2 where it should be 3-2-1), and I'm pretty sure the shell's darker shade is too dark.

= GPR = September 8th, 2009 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5090075)
4, 5 ,6, 7, 8! (lol)

Yeah, thanks guys, I always thought I wasn't that good, I'll get working on it.

I didn't say that!

I actually think that you're doing a great job. With more practice, you'll get WAY BETTER! It's only natural. Look at my stuff on my thread for example. When i first started, the shading was horrible, the outlining was way off, and to be honest, i had some scary color choices... but with practice, you'll get better!

Keep Spriting!

5qwerty September 9th, 2009 4:47 AM

Thanks guys, and I will try to update as soon as possible. But there are some reasons that I can't update:

1. School is starting/has started.
2. I am trying to work out concepts right now.
3. My spriting computer is not connected to the Internet.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 13th, 2009 5:44 PM

I really do love the shading and the coloring of the ladybug thing


:t354:TG

conejuno September 13th, 2009 6:09 PM

I them see good, I liked them. Only the alternative evo of cacnea I see her almost = deveria to have other things, good I expect to see mas good-bye.

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Alucus_Of_Borg September 25th, 2009 7:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aj624 (Post 5152750)
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What the...3 Topics that you spam in what is your problum?

5qwerty October 5th, 2009 4:08 PM

Huh? What?

Sorry, School's just keeping me busy.

5qwerty October 6th, 2009 6:38 PM

Whipped these two up in 20 minutes or so, C+C please.
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/grass_10.png

Chesu October 6th, 2009 7:52 PM

There's a bit too much contrast between the shades of the ones on the left... and too little between the shades of the one on the right! How did you manage that? XD

5qwerty October 7th, 2009 9:14 AM

What? Between the shades? Okay then.

cartercr October 7th, 2009 9:25 AM

These are nice. You planning on using them in Green Tree?

5qwerty October 7th, 2009 1:00 PM

IN my next hack, yes.
Some C+C please?

http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/haunte10.png Haunter for something else.

Josh B October 7th, 2009 7:15 PM

ya know im loving the bayleaf! idk why haha. your not too shabby ant pokemon spriting. i gotta say though the trainer is just a little off. I think it maybe the arms. i think theyre too long, maybe too thin, maybe both?

Dont take offense please. I gotta say you have some good stufff going there. keep it up

5qwerty October 8th, 2009 5:00 AM

Yeah, I know the trainer is really messed up, and you like the Bayleef? Okay then. What about the new ones?

Josh B October 8th, 2009 11:12 AM

Flartle is kinda cool looking. He reminds me of a toarkel. Are you going to make that like a baby toarkel?

5qwerty October 11th, 2009 3:46 PM

No, that was going to be a Fire Starter, but then I thought it didn't fit with something, so I'm going to change it, but I don't know into what. All I know is that it's going to be a Fire/Dark Type.

Josh B October 11th, 2009 9:27 PM

its kinda cool looking. And i love the dark/fire combination. are you putting them into a hack or something?

5qwerty October 12th, 2009 7:46 AM

Yeah I am, I think the Fire/Dark Type will be a Velociraptor.

5qwerty November 11th, 2009 5:40 PM

Update:
With tiles:
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/tiles10.png
Top row: Grass (under that is Pokemon Grass), Mountain, a civilian house, Pokemon Center, and road.
Bottom row: Sand Road, Tree, House, and Gym.
The Pokemart will be like the Center.

The reason they look like they're from another game is because I sprited in a similar style to those of Shiny Gold's. But they are not edited or ripped, they are from scratch.

AND DON' STEAL!!!

Tell me what you think, and give C+C please.

Kotone November 11th, 2009 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 5312661)
Update:
With tiles:
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/tiles10.png
Top row: Grass (under that is Pokemon Grass), Mountain, a civilian house, Pokemon Center, and road.
Bottom row: Sand Road, Tree, House, and Gym.
The Pokemart will be like the Center.

The reason they look like they're from another game is because I sprited in a similar style to those of Shiny Gold's. But they are not edited or ripped, they are from scratch.

AND DON' STEAL!!!

Tell me what you think, and give C+C please.

i rlly like them. the shading is nice. i like how everything is like rounded..idk xD
it's just not square. xD LOL.

5qwerty November 11th, 2009 6:04 PM

Also note, the House in the second row is not the final version.

5qwerty November 22nd, 2009 7:44 PM

Update:http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/cactle10.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/mart10.pnghttp://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/25/37/61/sawem_10.png
A Fakemon, a Mart, and a House.

deeelove November 22nd, 2009 10:00 PM

they look really nicee. Just keep doing it and I'm sure they will come out great

5qwerty November 25th, 2009 5:42 AM

Well, thanks....
I don't think that my Fakemon are looking top notch right now, could anyone give me some advice on that?

5qwerty December 9th, 2009 6:26 AM

http://i15.servimg.com/u/f15/13/25/37/61/110.pnghttp://i15.servimg.com/u/f15/13/25/37/61/410.pnghttp://i15.servimg.com/u/f15/13/25/37/61/710.pngMy new Fakemon.
Any suggestions?

Blazier December 11th, 2009 5:21 AM

nice haunter, though you cant really see it moving much even when animated


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