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you have invalidated any opinion you might have about building a computer :X |
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Listen.
Its almost always better to buy a new computer than to build your own. For one, you need experience around computers before building your own from scratch. Its more complicated than necessary. Its often more expensive to build your own for the purpose of office work and editing than just buying a new computer. Building your own computer is all about maximizing your computer's potential- its all about gamers. You don't need a beastly computer for video editing, just get a decent one at the $600~$800 range and upgrade the videocard and ram. |
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That statement isn't true... building your own computer allows you to customize it to what you need... and control what parts go into it. Thing is, for that price, you can get a near-beastly computer for $600-800 building your own. |
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Anyway, I do intend to replace my PSU in the near future. My situation when I built this was I had recently graduated from High School and people were throwing money at me. I ALMOST had $400. Almost. I think I was somewhere in the $380 and a little left over to get Spore Galactic Adventures. I looked around Newegg, slowly found all the parts I needed in my price range. My PSU is a 500watter, and hasn't failed on me at all. In fact, my entire computer hasn't failed except when I first started it up when it wouldn't boot to Windows. Fresh install later, I'm playing Fallout 3 and other various new to newish games on max. The PSU is not the most important part. Really, it's the least important part, as it is easily replaceable. And guys, building a computer always wields the better results. Compare two $400 computers, one you build your own, and one you buy from a name brand. The one you build will have significantly better hardware then what is almost a barebones machine that is near impossible to upgrade and shouldn't be running Windows on such low RAM. Pros of buying VS. building: You don't have to build it your self Better then buying a similarly priced Mac (if that's even possible) or Laptop Cons: Generally hard to upgrade You don't know what hardware is in there To expensive Generally filled with bloatware However, I know of some people in my local area that build computers for you. While cheaper then buying it from a name brand and has what you want in it, it's still more expensive then building one your self. Hey, they've got to make money too! |
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I said name brands, like Dell, Gateway (do they even exist anymore?), Apple, and other various name brands. As for those people, from what I can gather, they're closer to my friend (making what you order) rather then Dell (you get what they give you). And we all make spelilinge mistaks somtims.;)
And as for hard to upgrade, from my own personal experience, getting a DVD drive in my old Dell was a pain. |
Re:Building a Computer: What I need to know?
Hi Apple Inc.,
Well dear,That's a pretty old machine.For motherboard manufacturers, I'd recommend AMD or ASUS I don't know any Intel friendly brands offhand, since I am around fewer Intel utilizing computers because most of my parts are second hand from my dad, who is more of an AMD fan.If your in the market for a hard drive, trustworthy manufacturers include Seagate and Western Digital. Everyone else is hit or miss in terms of durability.And for graphics cards, ATI, and nVidia come to mind for quality.Well, Try to search from search engines regarding good configuration. Thanks |
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Do you have any idea whom you're talking to, failtroll?~ |
I wouldn't really call that trolling, more of you must not know how to build computers if you think the PSU is the single most important part in a computer. Or at the very least, have a warped view on computers and their insides. If you don't like that, fine, don't post on this thread anymore, as I was getting along just fine with out you. And I'm clearly not the only one who disagrees with you.
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Look, I understand you're new here; but you need to understand that I know more than you; and in-fact, I know much more than most of the people who post here. I know the fact that I'm a girl means it's a bitter pill for you to swallow; but once you accept it, you'll get along here much better better.
What you're implying is that you would build a house on wet clay without bothering to invest in proper foundations. And that's with your power sub-system is, the very foundation and basis of your build; which is what makes the PSU the single most important element in your computer; because without quality power nothing can operate and with bad power things can go terribly awry. Cheap and nasty PSU's will exhibit such fun symptoms as v-droop, v-spike and generally poor consistent amperage on the ever important 12v rail. This can lead to anything from poor performance, to instability, to corrupt HDD data; et al. Random reboots, lock-ups, apps crashing ~ all these are things to look forward to under the regime of a poorly performing power supply. And that's not even considering the lifespan it reduces the rest of your components by with it's less-than-consistent "interpretation" of what 12v, 5v and 3.3v should be. Of course; I wouldn't expect somebody who wanders into a thread and absolutely fails to understands the needs of a build to have any idea about the importance of such things; it's pretty clear that you're pretty new at this *pets* |
I don't get along with you at all apple.SHAMPOO, apparently. But I agree with you here 100%, as would any amatuer techie. I'd seriously not advise anyone to take advice from someone who believes that the PSU isn't the most vital part of a computer. It's easily the most important part of your computer, despite being too frequently overlooked. If you don't want the whole thing to go up in flames you'll buy a trusted brand, such as Corsair. My current PSU is a Corsair is only 450w, but it's going to cope far better than some cheapo 1kW PSU.
BenRK I suggest you learn some more about the actual workings of the computer, beyond just chucking parts together, any kid can do that. apple.SHAMPOO has already compiled a list of why to get a decent PSU. Try overclocking on a rubbish PSU for example. :lol: |
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And not just any kid can do that... I know plenty of people my age who couldn't tell you that the CD drive is modular (though I do know plenty who do - it's about a 60-40 split between those who can't and those who can). Overclocking can shorten the life of hardware, which is why I dislike it (I don't want to accidentally fry my motherboard, thank you very much, since I'm always cash-strapped). And I don't claim to be a hardware expert... after all, I'm more into networking than hardware (Network Administration is my current degree program). |
To be fair my eyes glazed over when I read your recommendation of a prebuilt computer. CoolerMaster PSUs aren't great, but at least they're branded, so there's a certain degree of quality. Overclocking doesn't necessarily reduce lifespan of a product. Hell, most hardware these days is marketed as overclockable. :P
And my comment was aimed mostly at BenRK, not you. |
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That may be so, but an hours worth of reading up on the internet would change that.
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I don't believe that the PSU isn't important. Just about every part of a computer is important, I just don't believe it's the most important part. A PSU can easily be replaced if it fails without having to rebuild your computer. Almost every part can easily be replaced if they fail EXCEPT the motherboard. If your motherboard fails, you literally have to tare your computer apart to put a new one in, risking frying other parts without care if you can even use some of them with a new motherboard. The motherboard dictates what parts you can use and the speed of those parts, heck, it even tells you what kind of case to use (good luck fitting that huge motherboard into that tiny case). The PSU, on the other hand, only gives power to your computer. Yes, important, but what good is a high end PSU inside a computer with a motherboard that only has PCI slots and is stuck with out dated RAM and a CPU socket?
As for you being a girl, I honestly don't care if you are. I've known girls who are in to computers just as much as we are, I've talked to them about hardware configurations and games and what not long before I even joined this site, not to mention I have a local friend who I talk to all the time, sharing information and speculating on super computers that we would want to build if we had the money. I've had an interest in computers and what they could do since my family first got a Windows computer back in 1997. I didn't have knowledge of the hardware until I was older of course, and in my sophomore year of high school, I took an A+ class which included assembling computers (that was a fun year). Early on, I believed that if you're going to build a computer, it should be as powerful as you can make it right from the start, but as time went on, I've learned that the important thing is a computers upgrade ability, which ties into the motherboard. I don't intend to get a different motherboard until I start a new build from scratch, which may not happen for a while, as this computer is young and still has a lot of life left. Yes, as I've said before, the PSU will be one of the first internal things I will replace (I REALLY need new speakers ASAP), and the hardest part in replacing it shall be figuring out where everything is plugged in, but until then, it's serving me fine with no problems. By the way, it's not like I just go out and buy parts on impulse. |
An A+ certification is worth nothing, I know kids who get them. You fail to see that had you bought a good PSU in the first place, you wouldn't NEED to replace it. You also don't run the risk of the PSU taking other component with it, such as the motherboard and RAM.
An outdated computer such as that wouldn't require a high quality PSU, so I'm not sure what you're getting at with that point. |
I suggest you read the topic over again, since you clearly didn't start from the beginning.
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All I can see is a ton of uninformed opinions. apple.SHAMPOO replies pretty much perfectly.
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Just stop, ok? You can go live by your PSU 100% life, that's fine by me. I don't agree with you, but that doesn't mean you have to get your panties in a knot. We all agree that all parts of a computer are important to the computer it self, which part we think is the most important is different between us. You think the PSU is the most important, I think the motherboard is the most important. Someone could just as easily come up and say that the CPU is the most important, or the hard drive, or hell, even the case.
To even things out, I was on a budget, I never intended to stick with this hardware configuration for the entire life of this computer, knowing that upgrade ability is important, I did plenty of research and chose the best I could with the budget via Newegg, I had plenty of input along the way, I need new speakers, and I'm perfectly fine with girls liking computers too. So in conclusion, shut up, enough about this, lets move on. |
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Anyway, the PSU is important to the extent that if you get a crappy one, you might suddenly be out a lot of cash or data. I'd recommend you get one that's about 100 or 200 watts above whatever your minimum power requirement is; this will give you a bit of leeway to work with (in case you want to upgrade or add hardware later, for instance). In my experience, 600 to 800 watts is usually plenty, unless you've got a lot of fancy hardware. And while I do recommend going with a good brand name for your PSU, don't just buy the most expensive one, either. Find something highly rated and reasonably priced and use that. |
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