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Buoysel September 9th, 2009 5:01 PM

HDD Question.
 
Okay, I've got this Dell that is about three years old.

I had windows Xp on it, but the update kept crashing, figuring it was some sort of Windows error I reinstalled Windows, no problems for a week or so, until the video resolution goes to crap, as if no driver was installed for my graphic card.

Everything is installed correctly, so I tested the RAM, it passed, Figuring its just windows, I attempt to install Ubuntu 9.04 on it.

I get this message:
crc error

--- System Halted

I looked up crc error on the Ubuntu website and on their forum it says that one of the following may be the cause:

1.Overheating problem
2.BAD RAM
3.HDD cable is losen (slightly losen would cause that too)
4.BAD HDD
5.Improper shutdown


Computer is not hot, just turned it on

Ram has been tested, and psychically checked

HDD cable is tight

Bad HDD (idk)

Who cares if Windows was shut down improperly, I am running form a live CD anyways.

So I am guessing that the HDD is bad, but that leads me to this question, Will a HDD just suddenly stop working 100%?

I can still load windows, (barley) sometimes It attempts to start, and then the computer just restarts .

I'm just wondering, But I am pretty sure that the HDD is bad, right?

BenRK September 9th, 2009 5:09 PM

Sounds like your hardware is dieing. BenRK's judgment, time to get a new computer.

twocows September 9th, 2009 6:09 PM

Sounds exactly like what happened when my hard drive failed. Video resolution and everything. Might want to try Drive Fitness (scroll down) or the equivalent program from your drive manufacturer, but it's probably busted. Also try running fsck from command line in your LiveCD (if it's FAT; I believe NTFS is still unsupported).

Buoysel September 9th, 2009 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocows (Post 5098778)
Sounds exactly like what happened when my hard drive failed. Video resolution and everything. Might want to try Drive Fitness (scroll down) or the equivalent program from your drive manufacturer, but it's probably busted. Also try running fsck from command line in your LiveCD (if it's FAT; I believe NTFS is still unsupported).


I tired to do that, I downloaded and burned the .iso from WD.

When I tired to boot from the CD, The screen went blank and then did nothing...

Well I guess you guy confirmed my theory, thanks.

*heads off to newegg*

twocows September 9th, 2009 6:22 PM

Did you make sure to set the BIOS to boot from CD? Because that's exactly what would happen if it tried to boot from a broken hard drive.

Buoysel September 9th, 2009 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocows (Post 5098820)
Did you make sure to set the BIOS to boot from CD? Because that's exactly what would happen if it tried to boot from a broken hard drive.

D:

I'm not that stupid.

(after all, I did just install Windows twice, and almost installed Ubuntu on it.)

linkinpark187 September 9th, 2009 8:59 PM

did you try rolling back the video drivers? you can do this by going to the device manager, going under Display Adapters and going into your video adapter's properties (double click or right click and go to Properties). under the driver tab, there should be an option to roll back the video driver. some of the Windows provided drivers tend to do that, especially with nVidia cards. give that a shot and let me know.

BenRK September 9th, 2009 9:13 PM

That wouldn't exactly work with a broken hard drive.

Buoysel September 10th, 2009 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 5099160)
did you try rolling back the video drivers? you can do this by going to the device manager, going under Display Adapters and going into your video adapter's properties (double click or right click and go to Properties). under the driver tab, there should be an option to roll back the video driver. some of the Windows provided drivers tend to do that, especially with nVidia cards. give that a shot and let me know.


Yeah, um three things, I would love to try that if I could even get windows, or anyother OS to install, second, Its an Intel Chip, Third, XP don't have a driver for it to begin with.


Bottom line, HDD is toast. (Thats what my dad gets for never turning the dam thing off like I told him too.)

beauty. proletariat September 10th, 2009 2:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by バクフーン (Post 5099454)



Yeah, um three things, I would love to try that if I could even get windows, or anyother OS to install, second, Its an Intel Chip, Third, XP don't have a driver for it to begin with.


Bottom line, HDD is toast. (Thats what my dad gets for never turning the dam thing off like I told him too.)

If you've still got warranty; give it a shot ;D

twocows September 10th, 2009 6:50 AM

Try slaving it to another computer and see if you can run Drive Fitness or whatever on it from there.

Sajuuk September 10th, 2009 7:26 AM

Yeah, you described a problem I had.

My HDD got totally power surged while I was away. I had only turned off the power, but not unplugged it. Surge of power through everything and HDD failed.

Exact same symptoms that I was getting.

Go down to the nearest computer repair shop and ask them to replace your hard disk and clone the files on the bad HDD to the new one. That's what I got. :)

twocows September 10th, 2009 7:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeworld'sa (Post 5099927)
Yeah, you described a problem I had.

My HDD got totally power surged while I was away. I had only turned off the power, but not unplugged it. Surge of power through everything and HDD failed.

Exact same symptoms that I was getting.

Go down to the nearest computer repair shop and ask them to replace your hard disk and clone the files on the bad HDD to the new one. That's what I got. :)

If that's what you got, then your hard drive wasn't fried. It costs thousands of dollars to get anything off of a fried hard drive (Google "hard drive recovery"). If they were able to do it that cheap, your hard drive probably had some minor issue, and they replaced it to get more money out of you.

Sajuuk September 10th, 2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocows (Post 5099998)
If that's what you got, then your hard drive wasn't fried. It costs thousands of dollars to get anything off of a fried hard drive (Google "hard drive recovery"). If they were able to do it that cheap, your hard drive probably had some minor issue, and they replaced it to get more money out of you.

It didn't damage anything else in the computer, but it has helped in the long run. Computer is slightly more efficient witho files than before and less crashing. The other HDD kept on crashing with a blue stop screen and not working correctly with my programs.

donavannj September 10th, 2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeworld'sa (Post 5100441)

It didn't damage anything else in the computer, but it has helped in the long run. Computer is slightly more efficient witho files than before and less crashing. The other HDD kept on crashing with a blue stop screen and not working correctly with my programs.

It was probably that the system files were damaged/destroyed, and this may also have been the only part of the platter damaged.

And it probably did damage the other stuff... you just won't be noticing the effects for another two or so years (happened with one of the computers we had here when we got struck by lightning back in '05... only things from that machine that still work are one of the hard drives and the CD/DVD drives, with the motherboard ceasing useful functionality - AKA, not accepting it's own drivers anymore - last November).

twocows September 10th, 2009 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeworld'sa (Post 5100441)

It didn't damage anything else in the computer, but it has helped in the long run. Computer is slightly more efficient witho files than before and less crashing. The other HDD kept on crashing with a blue stop screen and not working correctly with my programs.

I didn't say it did. You said the repair shop was able to salvage the files off a fried hard drive without charging you thousands of dollars. I simply find this hard to believe; either your hard drive was easily repairable (and they just charged you for a new one anyway), or your files would have been stuck until you shelled out a few thousand dollars. Since you got your files back, I'm assuming they just charged you for a new hard drive, even though the old one was perfectly salvageable.


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