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madhatta317 September 13th, 2009 5:56 PM

Would you consider it cheating/wrong
 
to use pokesav to import pokemon from my R/B/Y and G/S/C games to my platinum. Cause i have some killer pokemon on my red, gold, and crystal that i would love to import to platinum. I don't think its a big deal but i just want other people opinions on it.

ShivaDF September 13th, 2009 5:57 PM

As long as you recreate them PERFECTLY, I say no-problem. It's just Nintendo's fault that GBC games can't link with the DS.

madhatta317 September 13th, 2009 5:59 PM

yeah i intend to copy stats/movesets/levels and everything over perfectly. Like i have a 100 Starmie on my red file and i would love to own in platinum with it haha :D

jigglyppuff8 September 13th, 2009 6:09 PM

You do realize that the data structure in the Gen III/Gen IV games is very different from the Gen I/Gen II games? The Gen III games changed the way EVs worked, the values of IVs, added natures, abilities, and a whole bunch of other good stuff. Also, because of the way EVs worked in Gen I/II, it would be the equivalent of having Pokemon with 252 EVs in every stat if their stat experience (Gen I/II EVs) in each stat were maxed out, so those Pokemon would be considered very hacked.

madhatta317 September 13th, 2009 6:27 PM

then i can just give them 252 EVs in 2 stats of my choice or something? right?

dr4g0n12 September 14th, 2009 6:53 AM

I say that its a good Idea.

Snoveria September 14th, 2009 8:43 AM

The Long Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShivaDF (Post 5114856)
It's just Nintendo's fault that GBC games can't link with the DS.

thats true.....but on crystal version there is the time machine, where you can trade from the Colors to it, then you can trade from crystal to the newers colors, then link the new colors to the ds......but that would require time and effort....alot of time and effort

Milke September 14th, 2009 10:21 AM

Many people, including the ones on this site, would consider that hacking and using them in battles would be prohibited. Otherwise, if you're planning on using them ingame, it's fine.

yankee0724 September 14th, 2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoveria (Post 5116253)
thats true.....but on crystal version there is the time machine, where you can trade from the Colors to it, then you can trade from crystal to the newers colors, then link the new colors to the ds......but that would require time and effort....alot of time and effort

no you cant.lol

on topic,if its for in game,who currz?

Yingxue September 14th, 2009 11:07 AM

It's kind of depressing that Nintendo didn't link the new games to the old games. ;_;

Also, IIRC, in the oldest ones, RB at least, there is no Special split. Meaning, the special attack and special defence are just "Special".

I, personally, wouldn't really care if I was battling a guy who did what you're saying. I don't see anything wrong with it, because I generally don't care too much about cheaters or whatever. Not a lot of people share my viewpoint, though...hahah.

Snoveria September 14th, 2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milke (Post 5116575)
Many people, including the ones on this site, would consider that hacking and using them in battles would be prohibited. Otherwise, if you're planning on using them ingame, it's fine.

even if it were "Hacking" people would be jealous because they can't do what other people can, so whether it is or isn't i believe he is using what is available to him to get what he wants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee0724 (Post 5116680)
no you cant.lol

on topic,if its for in game,who currz?

have you ever owned crystal version...if you haven't, then how would you would or would not know if you can or not......i have crystal...i have done it, so don't tell what i can and can not do, just because you haven't done it doesn't mean its impossible.

Yingxue September 14th, 2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoveria (Post 5116723)
have you ever owned crystal version...if you haven't, then how would you would or would not know if you can or not......i have crystal...i have done it, so don't tell what i can and can not do, just because you have done it doesn't mean its impossible.

Pics or you're lying. It's impossible to trade between the GBA games and Crystal- period.

Snoveria September 14th, 2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yingxue (Post 5116729)
Pics or you're lying. It's impossible to trade between the GBA games and Crystal- period.

have you ever tried? just answer the question honestly and don't try and change the subject by saying "why would i need to have tried or not, i know its impossible"

Edit:oh and i didn't say that you trade between all the gba games from crystal, just leaf green and fire red

Yingxue September 14th, 2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoveria (Post 5116759)
have you ever tried? just answer the question honestly and don't try and change the subject by saying "why would i need to have tried or not, i know its impossible"

Edit:oh and i didn't say that you trade between all the gba games from crystal, just leaf green and fire red

Of course not. However:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_trade_with_pokemon_crystal_to_firered

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090322231727AAiOLmE

They're incompatible.

Snoveria September 14th, 2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yingxue (Post 5116817)

if you have never tried to do so then how are you sure that you cannot do so?

Banjora Marxvile September 14th, 2009 12:29 PM

I have tried, it is false. Happy now?

It would be cheating kinda, but I personally do not care. Even if I did have to battle you, as long as it has legitimate IV's and EV's, as well as moves, I am fine.

jigglyppuff8 September 14th, 2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 5114925)
You do realize that the data structure in the Gen III/Gen IV games is very different from the Gen I/Gen II games? The Gen III games changed the way EVs worked, the values of IVs, added natures, abilities, and a whole bunch of other good stuff.

This is why. The Pokemon data in the GB games is so different than the Pokemon data in the GBA games, that it is nearly impossible.

Also, I'm pretty sure it says that they are incompatible in the instruction booklet in the beginning somewhere.

Snoveria September 14th, 2009 2:02 PM

fine....if no one will believe me, i wont be apart of this argument any longer....i still know i'm right, anyone else who tells me otherwise can go smoke a fat one.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 14th, 2009 3:22 PM

Not if you can't get a certain Pokemon for a certain reason, then no its not


:t354:TG

professor plum September 14th, 2009 6:32 PM

You could just retrain them from scratch. :)
Game mechanics are completely different nowadays, so I'd do that if I were you.

*close*


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