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.com September 14th, 2009 2:50 PM

Sour grapes?
 
I know there's already a complaints thread, but this isn't exactly that. I've noticed that a lot of people who were wanting a GSC remake are bashing HGSS now. Imo, it's great. So, for supporters of HGSS before and after partial/full playing(I'm still partial xD), what were your disappointments?

The only real gripe that I can think of off the top of my head is the Ecruteak music. =/. Awful. Ruined my favorite Johto theme from the original. The rest of the music is great to me, though. =D.

Discuss.

blue September 14th, 2009 2:56 PM

Lol, I havnt got the game yet but from what i've seen there's nothing I dislike about it and im really looking forward to playing it, I love all the music aswell. :).

Greene1516 September 14th, 2009 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by .com (Post 5117400)
I know there's already a complaints thread, but this isn't exactly that.

Yeah except it is, you are complaining and asking others to post their complaints.

.com September 14th, 2009 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene1516 (Post 5117420)
Yeah except it is, you are complaining and asking others to post their complaints.

No, I'm highlighting certain things that disappointed me, not complaining. There's a difference, believe it or not.

ASDF. Oh well. I tried.

Hamilton September 14th, 2009 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by .com (Post 5117428)
No, I'm highlighting certain things that disappointed me, not complaining. There's a difference, believe it or not.

actually, they are exactly the same unless you dive into it philsophically, which isn't necessary

.com September 14th, 2009 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5117454)
actually, they are exactly the same unless you dive into it philsophically, which isn't necessary

No.

~25 character limit~

.com September 14th, 2009 3:10 PM

I get where they were going with the theme, but it's doesn't really fit. Piano would sound a lot better imo. But I give them credit for trying something new.

Yes, it's just my personal opinion. I get how it's traditional. Just not my cup of tea, I guess.

Edit: For example, it just doesn't flow as well in the new theme. Having the instruments they used doesn't make it sound nice and melodic and pleasing to the ear. I can't put it into words otherwise, basically.

michele September 14th, 2009 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by .com (Post 5117400)
I've noticed that a lot of people who were wanting a GSC remake are bashing HGSS now.

'cause people are never happy with what they're given. :|

Hamilton September 14th, 2009 3:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 5117466)
You might enjoy Cianwood's theme. Of that note though, if you're complaining about Ecruteak's theme you're not endowed enough into Japanese culture. :( Clearly making a theme more traditional makes it awful? (Meh, your opinion.)

that's exactly what i was gonna say- cianwood is like a toned down ecruteak, and it holds the same tune as the old Ecruteak :)

Eggie Poo Poo September 14th, 2009 3:13 PM

You say this isn't another complaints thread ... but that is what it is going to turn into.

Although the music is possibly the worst part of HG/SS, there are only a select few route/town/battle musics that sound good. Like Eckruteak I don't even know what that is ... Lugia and Ho-Oh themes I can't even understand what that SOUNDS LIKE, it has no Pokemon feel and I just don't get ... the point ... of their ... battle music .. and ugh the Rival encounter theme hurts my stomach ...

Whatever enough ranting, this is going to become a complaints thread (damn I just made it one by adding my complaints in =\)

Hamilton September 14th, 2009 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by .com (Post 5117472)
I get where they were going with the theme, but it's doesn't really fit. Piano would sound a lot better imo. But I give them credit for trying something new.

Yes, it's just my personal opinion. I get how it's traditional. Just not my cup of tea, I guess.

piano would sound better? i found this music online- do u like this (it's not in the games, but it is piano Ecruteak :)

.com September 14th, 2009 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michele (Post 5117473)
'cause people are never happy with what they're given. :|

Yes, very true.

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5117482)
that's exactly what i was gonna say- cianwood is like a toned down ecruteak, and it holds the same tune as the old Ecruteak :)

True x2.

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Originally Posted by Eggie Poo Poo (Post 5117485)
You say this isn't another complaints thread ... but that is what it is going to turn into.

Although the music is possibly the worst part of HG/SS, there are only a select few route/town/battle musics that sound good. Like Eckruteak I don't even know what that is ... Lugia and Ho-Oh themes I can't even understand what that SOUNDS LIKE, it has no Pokemon feel and I just don't get ... the point ... of their ... battle music .. and ugh the Rival encounter theme hurts my stomach ...

Whatever enough ranting, this is going to become a complaints thread (damn I just made it one by adding my complaints in =\)

Then don't make it one. Easier said then done, but eh.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 5117489)
Given the city's theme (torii, towers, geisha in the dance house [hrhrhr]) I'd say it fits perfectly.

Yeah, I get exactly what you mean. I just mean the original melody of the song, the instrument change takes some getting used to I guess. I'd rather have some kind of instrument, basically. But like I said before, I get where they were going making the theme that way.

Pokefan2007 September 14th, 2009 3:20 PM

But they did make a gb player did'nt they?

.com September 14th, 2009 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5117502)
piano would sound better? i found this music online- do u like this (it's not in the games, but it is piano Ecruteak :)

I've heard many redone themes with piano, been there done that. and I prefer it over the official revamp.
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Originally Posted by Poke-Fan2008 (Post 5117517)
But they did make a gb player did'nt they?

Yeah, exactly. I'm not big on nostalgia, which is why I like HGSS, it feels like a fresh game, yet it isn't, and there's still some nostalgia involved. I get how I can hear the 8-bit theme if I'd like, I'm just saying that I was disappointed in the default.

Hamilton September 14th, 2009 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Poke-Fan2008 (Post 5117517)
But they did make a gb player did'nt they?

true- i think that is because so many people were already complaining about 5 second clips they heard in june :)

.com September 14th, 2009 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5117532)
true- i think that is because so many people were already complaining about 5 second clips they heard in june :)

Maybe, but they would have put Kris back in if they totally listened to complaints, too.

Enough of my one opinion, what about the rest of you guys and gals'? xD.

Apostrophe September 14th, 2009 3:30 PM

My only complaint is that there is no built-in time warping device that could be used to make the localization team move faster. I guess they're taking their time for a good reason though. The longer they wait, the more bugs can be exploited and therefore discovered/stabilized for the international releases.

Hamilton September 14th, 2009 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostrophe (Post 5117564)
My only complaint is that there is no built-in time warping device that could be used to make the localization team move faster. I guess they're taking their time for a good reason though. The longer they wait, the more bugs can be exploited and therefore discovered/stabilized for the international releases.

no complainy- opinions, not complaining- my OPINION is that this game is great- the only thing that actually bugs me is that every time you use an HM, you have to go through the Pokemon showing up on the screen out of the pokeball thing (sorry, not that clear- you know what i'm talking about, right?)

.com September 14th, 2009 3:37 PM

Yeah, I get exactly what you mean. "Easier use of HMs" is what we heard before leak/release? My you-know-what.

chechiarts September 14th, 2009 3:45 PM

i have none the game was ok better that the last one if you ask me i actually ave fun

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ September 14th, 2009 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by michele (Post 5117473)

'cause people are never happy with what they're given. :|

I agree with this 100% you speak the truth


:t354:TG

Haza September 14th, 2009 8:03 PM

I really wanted an ingame Celebi Event. I like nicknaming my Pokemon damn it! Also, I wanted it to invlove the mysterious GS ball. I also wanted to visit Hoenn.(I had high hopes I know)

GunSaberSeraph September 14th, 2009 8:19 PM

At first I was disappointed by the Dark Cave remix, but when I heard it while traveling through Ice Cave, it sounded very fitting. That's the only complaint I can think of right now. This game has so far fit my expectations nicely.

Haza September 14th, 2009 8:41 PM

Even though I have complaints the games are still the best ever. There is always gonna be something we are not happy with so it doesnt change my opinion on Nintendo/Gamefreak. We are never fully happy with things anyway.

bobandbill September 14th, 2009 11:13 PM

=/

Even if this is not apparently a complaints thread.. it kinda is. Complaining =/= bashing, and expressing 'I didn't like this/I was disappointed with this' is pretty darn similar to complaining, if not just a milder form of it. You can still say, for instance:
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The only real gripe that I can think of off the top of my head is the Ecruteak music. =/. Awful. Ruined my favorite Johto theme from the original. The rest of the music is great to me, though. =D.
or
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no complainy- opinions, not complaining- my OPINION is that this game is great- the only thing that actually bugs me is that every time you use an HM, you have to go through the Pokemon showing up on the screen out of the pokeball thing (sorry, not that clear- you know what i'm talking about, right?)
in the Complaints thread - they all can really be classified as complaints (Just not the annoying 'omg these games suck 'cause of this' or immature ones).

Even if not, this is just too similar to that thread - similar topics, and IMHO this is just a Complaints thread, just started in a different manner and with less yelling thus far... but there's no need for two of the same/similar thing.

Closed.


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