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derozio September 15th, 2009 3:53 AM

Co-incidence or something else....?
 
Someone(agnegation to be precise) told me that this should be in a spoiler tag. I guess it really is a spoiler XD.So open it to take a look.
Spoiler:
I just noticed that all the champs of all the four regions are present in these games. We already know that Red'present as the final boss and Lance is there as the champ of jhoto. But we also got to know(before the release) that steven and cynthia are also present in these games! So it can be possible that they may all be there for different purposes but can it be something besides a coincidence?


(I'm sorry if this thread seems irrelevant. It just came into my mind and I thought to know what others think about it. So if there is some thing wrong with this thread or post I'm really sorry.)

Akiyo September 15th, 2009 3:57 AM

Hey, that's really quite interesting. ^^

derozio September 15th, 2009 4:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Akiyo (Post 5119350)
Hey, that's really quite interesting. ^^

That's the reason I have created this thread!
I wanted to know about what others thought about it. Try to give your opinion in your next post okay. :)

Anyways, I really can't come to think of what can be the reason for it. For the time being I just think that they all serve different purposes. But who knows, there might be something else to it...

seeker September 15th, 2009 4:11 AM

It may be intentional but I'm just going to suggest you put this in a spoiler tag as it is pretty much a spoiler.

Akiyo September 15th, 2009 4:43 AM

My opinion is that it's interesting. ._.'

derozio September 15th, 2009 4:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Akiyo (Post 5119458)
My opinion is that it's interesting. ._.'

Wow. That's really a nice opinion I suppose. ._.' XD

560cool. September 15th, 2009 4:50 AM

Well , what about Wallace ?
Ain't he a former champion ?
And also , Steven in HGSS ? Can you gimme more details ?
Also , I never thought about that ! Maybe we will even battle 'em ! That'd be epic !!

ShinyMeganium September 15th, 2009 4:53 AM

Probably just like the way you got "National dex" of 1-251 and now you get a national dex of 1-493, you used to see the champs of RBGY and GSC, so now you see all of them.

Anyways, why writing co-incidence? it's just "coincidence" as far as I know.

derozio September 15th, 2009 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 560cool (Post 5119479)
Well , what about Wallace ?
Ain't he a former champion ?
And also , Steven in HGSS ? Can you gimme more details ?
Also , I never thought about that ! Maybe we will even battle 'em ! That'd be epic !!

Well, wallace isn't there.(or maybe he hasn't been discovered in the games.) But I really didn't liked him so I'm indifferent about his existence in the game....
I don't think that we'll be able to battle them(cynthia and steven). They may be there to add more depth to the games.(But being able to battle them will make it more EPIC! The games are already very EPIC BTW! XD)

Alucus_Of_Borg September 15th, 2009 5:01 AM

it is just coincidinc i think cus steven tells you about the latis cus there hoenn pokemon and cynthia about the dragon event cus there sinohh pokemon

ShinyMeganium September 15th, 2009 5:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Alucus_Of_Borg (Post 5119502)
it is just coincidinc i think cus steven tells you about the latis cus there hoenn pokemon and cynthia about the dragon event cus there sinohh pokemon

Reasonable, and by saying that it's not a coincidence. It's very reasonable that each champ will tell of their regional Pokemons' quests/bonuses.

poopnoodle September 15th, 2009 5:05 AM

I enjoy how you separated "co" and "incidence." Interesting indeed, but I doubt it was some sort of unbelievable accident. Maybz they did it for the lulz that could come from your reaction... o_o ~conspiiiiracy~

Alucus_Of_Borg September 15th, 2009 5:20 AM

there are quite a few of the sinnoh gym leaders aswell maylene can be found and wake is in the celadon department store

Guy September 15th, 2009 9:21 AM

It is an interesting find in how each region champion will be found in HeartGold and SoulSilver. It didn't come to mind until brought up here. However, I don't really think they coincide wth each other, but more so develop different parts of the game. For instance, Lance is here for the inclusion of the game's plot and being the Champion after the Elite battle.

Just as he plays his own individual role, I believe the same goes for Cynthia as she takes part in accessing the in-game Arceus event involving the Dragon Trio and Steven as he introduces Latias, Latios, and also gives the player one of the Hoenn starters as well as later a Lv. 5 Beldum later on. Overall, the game basically makes each game intertwine with one another instead of keeping them indivdiually united by having certain aspects of each region just mentioned, but instead visually intact.

pikarich September 15th, 2009 9:29 AM

I don't think it's a coincidence. They must all be there for a reason. But that remains unknown...

Timbjerr September 15th, 2009 10:50 AM

you obviously don't battle Steven or Cynthia at any point in the game...if you did, their battle sprites would've been in the game's coding (which, referring to the Sprite thread, is not the case)

Tudj September 15th, 2009 12:09 PM

However though, they are all there playing a reasonably important part. They are not there as suggestions of a next game, they are there tom make the game a little more interesting and different to the originals.

Haza September 15th, 2009 12:25 PM

I noticed it too. Kinda throws away the time period speculations in a way. But it just make the games even more epic.

Guy September 15th, 2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by H☆ZA (Post 5120567)
I noticed it too. Kinda throws away the time period speculations in a way. But it just make the games even more epic.

To be honest, I still think the time period speculation sticks regardless of having Steven and Cynthia show up. It is said that the events that happened in Kanto and Hoenn occurred three years ago before the happening of Johto and Team Rocket. So, having Steven and Red come about as well as putting Lance as Champion fits well enough. Steven has already come through the phase from Hoenn three years ago, so having him travel elsewhere works within the timeline speculated.

As for the events of Sinnoh, it is said to have occurred a few weeks after that of Johto. So, with this being said Cynthia being put to travel and unlock the events fits as it is known that there are more than one Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina.

Therefore, I still believe the time frame that was speculated between all four regions is in place as things go, but now HeartGold and SoulSilver has just brought the regions important characters into play within the game's region.

! AvatarKris ! September 15th, 2009 12:50 PM

I was wondering the same thing but who will know maybe they ae to appear a special third version

MizuJosh September 15th, 2009 7:17 PM

I think it's just for cameo purposes, much like Jasmine was a Cameo in Sunnyshore in DPPt. I don't believe there's any true reason behind it other than to give you nostalgia and want to play those games again.

derozio September 16th, 2009 2:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapphireKingdra (Post 5121911)
I think it's just for cameo purposes, much like Jasmine was a Cameo in Sunnyshore in DPPt. I don't believe there's any true reason behind it other than to give you nostalgia and want to play those games again.

I really don't think that they are in the games only for cameos. They all are serving some important roles as already mentioned above by everybody else.


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