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t99zz March 4th, 2011 11:10 PM

rate my heracross
 
i can also except gen 5 moves

Heracross
Ability:
Guts
Item: ???
Nature: Adamant

Stats:
HP: 364
Atk: 383
Def: 249
Sp.Atk: 161
Sp.Def: 289
Spe: 269

Moveset:
Megahorn
Close Combat
Earthquake
Stone Edge

opinions are welcome i designed this for gen IV but with black and white and i will probably send him over to gen V.
So gen V moves are also welcome.

Erufuun March 4th, 2011 11:30 PM

Well, uh, this is kinda of an impossible statlist. D:
A Pokemon can only have a total of 510 EVs to be distributed to stats... Yours has 1530. It can't have max in everything. The most is only two stats.

But, I guess I would recommend giving it a Choice Scarf as a hold item, and 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP in Evs.

t99zz March 5th, 2011 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erufuun (Post 6493072)
Well, uh, this is kinda of an impossible statlist. D:
A Pokemon can only have a total of 510 EVs to be distributed to stats... Yours has 1530. It can't have max in everything. The most is only two stats.

But, I guess I would recommend giving it a Choice Scarf as a hold item, and 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP in Evs.

thanks but this was only for "in game play" so i downloaded a sav file so it has probably been hacked but i was refering more to the moveset

Zeffy March 5th, 2011 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erufuun (Post 6493072)
Well, uh, this is kinda of an impossible statlist. D:
A Pokemon can only have a total of 510 EVs to be distributed to stats... Yours has 1530. It can't have max in everything. The most is only two stats.

But, I guess I would recommend giving it a Choice Scarf as a hold item, and 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP in Evs.

Uhh, they're stats not EVs. Stats and EVs are very different. Its EVs that can only be maxed out to 510, not stats.

Weavile05 March 5th, 2011 6:54 AM

I'm kinda knew to the whole competetive battling scene, which I am soon to get into. My question is:
Does Baton Pass transfer ALL Stat changes or only POSITIVE Stat changes.
Like if I used Curse and then Baton pass, would it transfer the speed Drop too?

Garrabutártulo March 5th, 2011 7:12 AM

Yeah, I think it transfers all. It transfers some more things too:
Stockpile effects, charge effects, substitute, confusion, curse, perish song counter, leech seed, ingrain, aqua ring, the higher crit rate (after focus energy, for example), defense curl bonus (for rollout), mean look (and similar)...

Weavile05 March 5th, 2011 7:22 AM

Ok... What pokemon would be reccomended as a revenge killer In OU?

Garrabutártulo March 5th, 2011 7:24 AM

I think it depends on what are you looking to revenge kill... :s
Most revenge killers have a choiced item, I think XD

Velvex the Øverlørd March 5th, 2011 7:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeffy (Post 6493175)

Uhh, they're stats not EVs. Stats and EVs are very different. Its EVs that can only be maxed out to 510, not stats.

I think they knew those were the stats, and not EVs. If you looked, Heracross has the maximum possible stats with an Adamant nature in every single stat, which is impossible unless it has 252-255 EVs in each stat. With 6 stats, and 255 EVs in each one, that is 1,530 EVs in total, which is what t99zz said.

As for suggestions about the Heracross, if this is just for storyline purposes it would be fine, but if you plan on using it for Wi-Fi I would get rid of Stone Edge for an entry hazard or physical attack/speed-boosting move (if Heracross can learn any of those, I really don't know anything about Hercross's movepool aside from MegaHorn.) If you can't find an entry hazard or good stat boosting move, Venoshock wouldn't be a bad replacement either, since Toxic and Toxic Spikes are used so often in Wi-Fi, but it's use would probably be fairly situational, and I'm not sure if it would benefit you more than Stone Edge would.

Weavile05 March 5th, 2011 7:28 AM

Well my plan for my team is to have like a lead Azelf to, well, Lead off my team, and then I have Dragonite, Lucario, and Snorlax, with a Magnezone to counter Dragonite's biggest weakness, Scizor. I want to have some sort of revenge killer in my last slot. I'm thinking something that can take out Gengar, since He's probably one of my biggest Weaknesses.

Does that help?

Haberdasher March 5th, 2011 4:36 PM

If a Pokemon has between 90 and 100 EVs on a stat, will a vitamin work or not? I need to know this to figure out what my EVs are (was EV training and lost attention for a minute, now unsure if I have 28 or 30 on one stat). Thanks in advance.

Weavile05 March 5th, 2011 4:55 PM

Vitamins will work as long as ten have not been used or if your EVs are within 10 points of their max.

Haberdasher March 5th, 2011 5:27 PM

Your post is a bit vague. I know that 255 is the max, but both extensive online searching and personal testing have shown that regardless of whether the EVs are from vitamins or not, vitamins cannot be used on a stat with 100+ EVs. I'm just wondering if that also applies to 90+ EVs since the vitamin would either not give 10 EVs or would raise the stat to over 100 EVs. Are you saying that vitamins won't work from 90 to 100 EVs?

Weavile05 March 5th, 2011 8:16 PM

Oh I thought it would still work. But if you've done extensive online researching and personal testing I would just go with what they say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 6493393)
Ok... What pokemon would be reccomended as a revenge killer In OU?

Still need this answered please.

Griffinbane March 6th, 2011 6:04 AM

Just about any OU pokemon with priority or that's fast with scarf I guess...Scizor, Lucario, etc...

ShreyasPokemon March 6th, 2011 10:58 AM

If you want a good revenge killer, you will need to actually think about which will work the best. It depends on your team and how the revenge killer will work.

Some good revenge killers:
Hitmontop
Flygon
Scizor
Dugtrio
(and there are more)

Anis March 6th, 2011 12:17 PM

RE: EV training
 
I've never EV trained before, but have intend to for my black and white versions. I've read the serebii guide, but had a few questions:
  • Do I have to battle the same pokemon till the next level to raise a certain stat -e.g. keep battling zubat to raise speed?
  • How can I check when I've reached the maximum for a stat - I understand that the maximum a each stat is 126 EV points.
Thanks for your help,
Anis

Griffinbane March 6th, 2011 2:58 PM

Not quite.
The maximum EV your pokemon can get is 255 in each stat, and 510 EVs altogether. Since 4 EVs = 1 stat point, you should only get max 252 EVs in a stat. Any more will just go to waste. Consider what EV spread you want first, then decide what and how many to fight. If you want 252 speed EVs, fight 252 Zubat or Pidgey. If you want 252 Special Defense EVs, fight 126 Tentacruel or 252 Tentacool. This is assuming you don't have Pokerus or power items.

t99zz March 7th, 2011 1:22 AM

what is a good moveset for my shiny Dragonite
 
I was very lucky when I was playing pokemon diamond and was able to catch an Adamant Nature Shiny Dratini first shot I have currently got him at level 100 and have EV trained him HP6,Atk252,Spe252 however I'm still looking for a good moveset i currently have
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch

this for gen IV but i will be sending him to Gen V soon so any advice is welcome

Anis March 7th, 2011 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffinbane (Post 6495919)
Not quite.
The maximum EV your pokemon can get is 255 in each stat, and 510 EVs altogether. Since 4 EVs = 1 stat point, you should only get max 252 EVs in a stat. Any more will just go to waste. Consider what EV spread you want first, then decide what and how many to fight. If you want 252 speed EVs, fight 252 Zubat or Pidgey. If you want 252 Special Defense EVs, fight 126 Tentacruel or 252 Tentacool. This is assuming you don't have Pokerus or power items.

Thanks a lot for your reply. Just to confirm, I have to fight 252 Zubats and no more regardless of the level of my pokemon start and end with e.g. could have a lv 15 Snivy? Also, I can't fight a mix of pokemon right e.g. fight a mix Pidgeys and Zubats together?

Thanks again,
Anis

Erufuun March 7th, 2011 4:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis (Post 6496797)
Thanks a lot for your reply. Just to confirm, I have to fight 252 Zubats and no more regardless of the level of my pokemon start and end with e.g. could have a lv 15 Snivy? Also, I can't fight a mix of pokemon right e.g. fight a mix Pidgeys and Zubats together?

Thanks again,
Anis

Yes, you get 1 speed EV for fighting a Zubat, regardless of level. However, there are items that would make this go by much faster. Macho Brace doubles the number of EVs you get in any stat, so you would get 2 speed EVs if your Pokemon was holding a Macho Brace and defeated a Zubat. Also, the Power Anklet. It is much more efficient, it adds 4. So every time you beat a Zubat, you got 5 speeds EVs instead~

And for the last question, yes. It doesn't matter what you defeat, if they give the same EVs it has the same effect.

marcc5m March 7th, 2011 9:06 AM

Haven't battled competitively in almost a year, and now that Black and White are out, I want to maybe start again. So I was just wondering if this is any good:

Chandelure @Life Orb
Modest
Flame Body
252SpAtk/252Speed/4HP
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind

Shadow Ball and Flamethrower for STAB, Energy Ball for Water types, Calm Mind to further increase SpAtk, and Life Orb does that too. Yeah, I know this probably sucks :\

Opposite Day March 7th, 2011 9:26 AM

You are on the right track, however unless you plan to use it in a Trick Room team, I'd say to not use a +spa nature, but rather a +spe nature since Chandelure really needs all the speed it can get.
As far as coverage goes, it doesn't necessarily have to go much further than its stabs. A SubSplit set is one of the best things that it can do imo, and while it is not as fast as Gengar, you'll notice that a LO Fire Blast will most likely wreck anything that doesn't resist it (more so than with Gengar), and you'll easily be able to kill Blissey thanks to Sub and Pain Split etc.

Also Flash Fire is afaik the superior ability, so you should probably use that :x

Shanderra @ Life Orb
Trait: Flash Fire
4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Fire Blast

Anis March 7th, 2011 2:00 PM

I just had a few more questions:

Say I fought 252 Zubats/123 Tentacruels and my Snivy reached Lv 32, does that mean that battling Zubats/Tentacruels after this level is useless?

Thanks a lot for your help,

Anis

Griffinbane March 7th, 2011 8:12 PM

You still have 12 EVs spare. Anyhoo, you can keep training your pokemon in EVs until it's got the maximum amount of EVs or until it's level 100. It doesn't matter what level they are, as long as they can continue to gain experience.

Side note: A level 100 pokemon can still gain EVs if it doesn't have any. The problem is, it can only gain EVs through vitamins.

Diakuren March 9th, 2011 6:35 AM

Hello guys, im new around these forums and i was wondering if you could give me hand in which EV spread would be better for a rayquaza.... My rayquaza is a shiny and it has really crappy stats, though, i would like to be able to use it in competitive play with my friends( not out there in the big leagues of PBR i know i would get crushed xD) It's stats are:

HP 31
Atk 29
Def 3
SPatk 11
SPdef 11
Spd 3
Nature: Mild

So as you may notice it isnt anything close to good lol, i've checked the smogon builds but given that this rayquaza has a really poor speed IV and an spatk boosting nature i dont have a clue on what EV spread would make it at least sighly decent in competitive play... Hope you can help me out with this.. and thanks in advance =).

Anis March 10th, 2011 2:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffinbane (Post 6498107)
You still have 12 EVs spare. Anyhoo, you can keep training your pokemon in EVs until it's got the maximum amount of EVs or until it's level 100. It doesn't matter what level they are, as long as they can continue to gain experience.

Side note: A level 100 pokemon can still gain EVs if it doesn't have any. The problem is, it can only gain EVs through vitamins.

Sorry to bother you again, but say I'd fought 252 zubats (126 if wearing macho brace), 252 tentacools & 6 chanseys and my pokemon had reached say lv 65. Does that allow me to fight anything I want to get it to level 100, as I've maxed my EV training for that pokemon or can I train it further/give it vitamins. In addition, when EV training do I need to fight 252 zubats in a row or will the EVs be added as long as over the course of training that pokemon to level 100 I battle 252 zubats. Also, I wanted to know what IVs was about, as I heard people say they maxed a pokemons EV & IV - what does this mean?
Finally, I'm creating a a black and white team and wanted some advice from you experts (apologies if I'm on the incorrect discussion thread for this). So far in my team of six EV'd Reshiram (Sp Atk & Spd) and EV'd Zekrom (Atk & Spd) are pretty much secured on the team, but I wanted to get a good balance of types and stats.

Thanks a lot for your time,
Anis

Opposite Day March 10th, 2011 3:30 AM

@ Diakuren:
I would probably say that a Swords Dance Rayquaza would be the way to go, since Dragon Dance relies far more on its speed than a SD set does (SD uses Extremespeed as its main way of damaging stuff that would outspeed it)

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/ 252 speed / 4 Defense
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake/Overheat

SD + ES kills stuff that's faster than you, Dragon Claw is there for a semi-mandatory stab (Outrage would make Rayquaza much easier to revenge kill due to the fact that it would lock it in the move, preventing you from using Extremespeed), and Earthquake damages Steels in general, while Overheat might be used over it to kill Scizor, Forretress, and Skarmory.

@Anis:
After you've reached 510 EVs (In your case by smacking around Zubats, Chanseys and Testacools), you have reached your limit and will not gain any EVs from fighting other pokemon, unless you remove some of them by feeding them EV-reducing berries.

You do not have to fight 252 Zubats in a row to get 252 EVs in Speed, they add up over time.

IVs = Individual values that range from 31 to 0, and determine a pokemons stats when hatched/caught. Generally speaking, a pokemon with a 0 IV in speed will (at lvl 100) have 31 points less in speed than a pokemon with a 31 IV in speed, hence, it is important to make sure that your pokemon have at least decent IVs before you start to EV train them, in order to reach their fullest potential. You can determine the IVs of a pokemon by using an Action Replay device, using various IV calculators on the web, or simply by having an IV battle (at least in Gen 4 games). If you are trying to determine the IVs of a pokemon, make sure to record how many EV it has gained, as if you lose track it will be hard/impossible to make sure what the IVs really are.

ALSO, your name creeps me out.

Weavile05 March 10th, 2011 4:02 AM

I was just wondering if these would be good sets for a Scolipede.

Offensive
255atk/ 100def/ 100Sp. Atk/ 55spd
Megahorn
Toxic
Venoshock
Rock Slide/Earthquake

Megahorn for Stab, Toxic to boost Venoshock's power, Rock Slide for Coverage against Fire and Flying, Earthquake against Rock or whatever else weak to it. Sp. Atk EVs help with Venoshock. Kind of a Tank I suppose.

Defensive
225def/ 200sp. atk/ 55spd
Toxic
Venoshock
Rest
Protect

I'm not too sure about this one. It's kind of a basic stall set. Sp. Atk for powering up Venoshock.

ltsang March 10th, 2011 12:33 PM

Rate my dragonite
 
Nature is adamant at level 77

Move sets: fly, thunderbolt, aqua tail and outrage

stats: Hp: 251, Attack 279, Defense 156, Sp. Atk 175 Sp def 169 Speed 147.

.Aero March 10th, 2011 1:08 PM

I'm not entirely sure of this, and I'd wait for some verification (as I can't find any currently online), but I had been told Venoshock only doubles in power when a pokemon is specifically "poisoned" and not "toxic-ed", seeing as how they're two different status conditions (i.e. Toxic increases in damage the more a pokemon stays in). Anyway, here's an offensive set suggestion:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/545.png
Scolipede@Focus Sash/Life Orb
Jolly Nature [+Spe; -SpA]
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Protect / Swords Dance
- Megahorn / X-Scissor / Poison Jab
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

Quite honestly, poison doesn't hit enough stuff to actually be a good attacking type, so it's not entirely suggested that you run a poison type attack. Try this set out instead. Toxic + Venoshock seems like a good idea, but there's a few hinderances to pulling it off with Scolipede, one being what I mentioned at the beginning of this post. If it's true that only the regualar "posion" status affects the base power, it loses any point it has. Also, running Toxic on him isn't the best idea as his 60/89/69 defenses are kind of shaky making the setup turn quite difficult despite his nice speed and focus sash (as the sash could easily be broken by entry hazards and the all-too-common sandstorm).

That also brings me to the my next point. I highly suggest not running a defensive Scolipede due to his poor HP and SpD, and mediocre Def.

Hope this was helpful. :]

jab2033 March 10th, 2011 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltsang (Post 6502371)
Nature is adamant at level 77

Move sets: fly, thunderbolt, aqua tail and outrage

stats: Hp: 251, Attack 279, Defense 156, Sp. Atk 175 Sp def 169 Speed 147.

Only thing is, Thunderpunch > Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a special move, but your Dragonite's SpAtk is terrible. Thunderbolt won't be near as effective as Thunderpunch.

Consider Fire Punch as well. Fire Punch can hit Ice Types that Dragonite is weak to as well as Steel Types that resist Outrage and Fly.

Anis March 10th, 2011 1:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opposite Day (Post 6501723)
@ Diakuren:
I would probably say that a Swords Dance Rayquaza would be the way to go, since Dragon Dance relies far more on its speed than a SD set does (SD uses Extremespeed as its main way of damaging stuff that would outspeed it)

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/ 252 speed / 4 Defense
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake/Overheat

SD + ES kills stuff that's faster than you, Dragon Claw is there for a semi-mandatory stab (Outrage would make Rayquaza much easier to revenge kill due to the fact that it would lock it in the move, preventing you from using Extremespeed), and Earthquake damages Steels in general, while Overheat might be used over it to kill Scizor, Forretress, and Skarmory.

@Anis:
After you've reached 510 EVs (In your case by smacking around Zubats, Chanseys and Testacools), you have reached your limit and will not gain any EVs from fighting other pokemon, unless you remove some of them by feeding them EV-reducing berries.

You do not have to fight 252 Zubats in a row to get 252 EVs in Speed, they add up over time.

IVs = Individual values that range from 31 to 0, and determine a pokemons stats when hatched/caught. Generally speaking, a pokemon with a 0 IV in speed will (at lvl 100) have 31 points less in speed than a pokemon with a 31 IV in speed, hence, it is important to make sure that your pokemon have at least decent IVs before you start to EV train them, in order to reach their fullest potential. You can determine the IVs of a pokemon by using an Action Replay device, using various IV calculators on the web, or simply by having an IV battle (at least in Gen 4 games). If you are trying to determine the IVs of a pokemon, make sure to record how many EV it has gained, as if you lose track it will be hard/impossible to make sure what the IVs really are.

ALSO, your name creeps me out.

Say I fought 252 zubats and 252 tentacools and only wanted to train to level 60, will all the EVs be added by this time? Also, how can I make sure my pokemon have good IVs to start with? Thanks for your time.

P.S. my name is Arabic for friend/companion, so I'm not scary honest lol

ltsang March 10th, 2011 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab2033 (Post 6502470)
Only thing is, Thunderpunch > Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a special move, but your Dragonite's SpAtk is terrible. Thunderbolt won't be near as effective as Thunderpunch.

Consider Fire Punch as well. Fire Punch can hit Ice Types that Dragonite is weak to as well as Steel Types that resist Outrage and Fly.

Ty for your reply. I have change thunderbolt into fire punch. I also tried my best to learn how to ev train. This is my first team that I have ev train it. I already have a thunder punch on my team so I need a fire move. I'm going to use fire punch instead.

Griffinbane March 10th, 2011 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis (Post 6502479)
Say I fought 252 zubats and 252 tentacools and only wanted to train to level 60, will all the EVs be added by this time? Also, how can I make sure my pokemon have good IVs to start with? Thanks for your time.

Yep, everything is added by then. Like I said earlier, level doesn't matter, just the number of EVs and where they're placed does. As for IVs, you'd have to IV breed them, or in the case of gen 3 and 4, RNG them. It takes a lot of patience to get the IVs you want onto your pokemon.

Chaos Uxie March 10th, 2011 6:37 PM

I wanted to request a moveset for a Standalone Seismitoad,
It must be an attacker and not a wall and must not be a rain dancer,
it must ingame friendly moveset
Thanks

Erufuun March 10th, 2011 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos Uxie (Post 6503055)
I wanted to request a moveset for a Standalone Seismitoad,
It must be an attacker and not a wall and must not be a rain dancer,
it must ingame friendly moveset
Thanks

In game friendly?? oooh, toughy...
The nature I would recommend a neutral nature. He needs his defense and a mix attacker in game is always more convenient.
I would say;
Surf/Scald/Hydro pump
Sludge Bomb
Earthquake
Grass Knot/Drain Punch.

Diakuren March 10th, 2011 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opposite Day (Post 6501723)
@ Diakuren:
I would probably say that a Swords Dance Rayquaza would be the way to go, since Dragon Dance relies far more on its speed than a SD set does (SD uses Extremespeed as its main way of damaging stuff that would outspeed it)

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/ 252 speed / 4 Defense
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake/Overheat

SD + ES kills stuff that's faster than you, Dragon Claw is there for a semi-mandatory stab (Outrage would make Rayquaza much easier to revenge kill due to the fact that it would lock it in the move, preventing you from using Extremespeed), and Earthquake damages Steels in general, while Overheat might be used over it to kill Scizor, Forretress, and Skarmory.

Thanks for the reply, Opposite Day =), i was thinking it would be a waste to leave the hp IV untouched but youre right, since i dont plan to go into the big leagues of competitive play that build should be more than enough and the mild nature gives me a small boost in overheat to be more safe when killing pokemon that dont have the x4 weakness to fire.

Thanks again!

Kirkland March 11th, 2011 1:18 PM


Can I request a moveset/nature/ev spread for Cryognal? It looks interestingly
weird but I've never really made a proper team before so I need some help to
start off with. ^^; I'm not really sure where to start.

Skapocalypse March 11th, 2011 7:36 PM

I'd Like to request a Moveset/ev spread for an Amoonguss.

I'd really appreciate it. :)

Dark Azelf March 11th, 2011 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skapocalypse (Post 6504678)
I'd Like to request a Moveset/ev spread for an Amoonguss.

I'd really appreciate it. :)

http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/591.gif @ Leftovers
252 HP / 192 Def / 56 Sp.Def / 8 Speed
Calm Nature
Trait : Regeneration (DW only otherwise use Effect Spore)
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Stun Spore
- Clear Smog

I find this works best.

Evs maximize defenses and outspeeds min Slowbro, Reuniclus and Cofagrigus which can be useful to Clear Smog away their Calm Minds after Sporing them. Also can Clear Smog other slot stat uppers and anything non steel which is awesome. Stun Spore and Spore cripple near anything and Giga Drain is for STAB.

Skapocalypse March 11th, 2011 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 6504715)
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/591.gif @ Leftovers
252 HP / 192 Def / 56 Sp.Def / 8 Speed
Calm Nature
Trait : Regeneration (DW only otherwise use Effect Spore)
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Stun Spore
- Clear Smog

I find this works best.

Evs maximize defenses and outspeeds min Slowbro, Reuniclus and Cofagrigus which can be useful to Clear Smog away their Calm Minds after Sporing them. Also can Clear Smog other slot stat uppers and anything non steel which is awesome. Stun Spore and Spore cripple near anything and Giga Drain is for STAB.

Thanks a lot! :)

Im also having trouble with Basculin. He's already pretty fast, so I really dont know where to start with his EV distribution....

Detox March 11th, 2011 8:38 PM

Well you might as well run 252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP if you really want to use him.

Skapocalypse March 11th, 2011 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 6504776)
Well you might as well run 252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 HP if you really want to use him.

Ahh ok. Thanks for the advice. :)

Anis March 11th, 2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffinbane (Post 6502728)
Yep, everything is added by then. Like I said earlier, level doesn't matter, just the number of EVs and where they're placed does. As for IVs, you'd have to IV breed them, or in the case of gen 3 and 4, RNG them. It takes a lot of patience to get the IVs you want onto your pokemon.

I want to start EV training my Samurott lv 41 - Can I still EV train it 252 in speed and 252 in attack? I say this, as since the start of the game he has fought various pokemon e.g. patrats, gym leader pokemon etc so I just wanted to make sure I could still max the EV stats I want. Also, how do I IV breed? What does RNG mean?
Thanks a lot!
Anis

.Aero March 11th, 2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis (Post 6504920)
I want to start EV training my Samurott lv 41 - Can I still EV train it 252 in speed and 252 in attack? I say this, as since the start of the game he has fought various pokemon e.g. patrats, gym leader pokemon etc so I just wanted to make sure I could still max the EV stats I want. Also, how do I IV breed? What does RNG mean?
Thanks a lot!
Anis

You won't be able to maximize EVs on your Samurott due to the massive variety of pokemon found throughout a campaign through Unova. If you really have the time and desire to get that specific Samurott to end up with 252 Atk / 252 Spe, there are some berries that will remove 10 EVs of a specific stat each. However, chances are your Samurott already has maxed EVs, so this will be a massive undertaking and you'll probably be better off breeding a fresh Oshwott with the day care.

IV breeding is just breeding constantly and checking a pokemon's IVs with (usually) an action replay. The other method was to do an "IV Check Battle" as Wifi battles would scale your pokemon to level 100. This is no longer the case for B&W as they removed the level 100 possibility, and level 50 battles are less reliable (but probably your only method of checking other than AR). The way to check IVs with these battles was by entering stats into an IV calculator (one can be found on serebii.net).

RNG is Random Number Generation, described here. However this link is out of date and only works for DPPt I believe. It still explains what RNG is though.

C H A M P I O N March 12th, 2011 12:03 PM

Could You Guys Possibly reccomend Pokemon and Moves?
Im Thinking About:

Lapras:
-Thunder
-Blizzard or (Ice Beam?)
-Surf
- IDK???

Tyranitar:
-Earthquake
-Thunder
-Blizzard (or Ice Beam???)
-Crunch or Dark Pulse

Garchomp:
No Idea

Meta Gross:
No Idea

Any Suggestions? Moves? Pokemon?

)Kazaki( March 12th, 2011 2:29 PM

I'm looking at getting into wifi battilng, but I just need another persons opinion, on which game should I focus on for wifi battling. So, which one? Thanks.

D3POD March 12th, 2011 8:26 PM

3 man Team Rating please?
 
ok so heres how I plan to train my pokemon,
Snorlax Admant attack 252 defense 252 health 6
Moves:
EarthQuake
Return
rest
subsitute
Item: Chesto berry.
Elcectabuz Naughty nature attack 252 defense 252 health 6
Moves:
Earth Quake
Thunder bolt
cross shop
thunder punch
Life orb
Starmie Timid 252 SPA 252 SP.D 6 health
Moves:
Surf
Thunder bolt
Psychic
light screen
Items light ball
I also kind of wanted to make a six man team with these in it but I just can't decide, also what good Pokemon would fit into these teams?

OmegaNemesis28 March 12th, 2011 9:42 PM

I want to start up a rain dance team consisting of ONLY 5th gen pokemon. I had a nice mixed team of the 4th gen and drizzle toad as my open but sadly I'm being forced to go only 5th gen entirely.

I have no idea where to start. I'm not asking to have an entire team built for me, but I just don't know how to get my feet off the ground in doing so. I usually take other people's teams, tear them down, and swap in my own pokemon or movesets but the problem now is that I don't know the pokemon or even have teams to start messing with.

Anis March 13th, 2011 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6504931)
You won't be able to maximize EVs on your Samurott due to the massive variety of pokemon found throughout a campaign through Unova. If you really have the time and desire to get that specific Samurott to end up with 252 Atk / 252 Spe, there are some berries that will remove 10 EVs of a specific stat each. However, chances are your Samurott already has maxed EVs, so this will be a massive undertaking and you'll probably be better off breeding a fresh Oshwott with the day care.

IV breeding is just breeding constantly and checking a pokemon's IVs with (usually) an action replay. The other method was to do an "IV Check Battle" as Wifi battles would scale your pokemon to level 100. This is no longer the case for B&W as they removed the level 100 possibility, and level 50 battles are less reliable (but probably your only method of checking other than AR). The way to check IVs with these battles was by entering stats into an IV calculator (one can be found on serebii.net).

RNG is Random Number Generation, described here. However this link is out of date and only works for DPPt I believe. It still explains what RNG is though.

I was told that EVs add up over time and that you don't have to fight a certain pokemon 252 times in a row e.g. zubat - how does this happen? Also, how do I make sure a certain nature is good for a certain stat for my pokemon? Thanks a lot :)

.Aero March 13th, 2011 12:47 PM

EVs are awarded to a stat that the opponent pokemon corresponds to. For your Zubat example, I'm fairly certain he gives 1 EV point to speed. However, the issue that I'm telling you about is that Your Samurott has done so much battling (supposedly) while traveling through Unova, that it's probably reached the max amount of EVs it can take in, and thos 510 EVs that he has are probably a mess of all 6 of the stats. So you won't be able to get 252 in speed, as he's probably maxed out at the 510 EVs, where some of those points you want in Speed have now moved to, say, Defense or something.

As for natures, there are multiple ways to check. You can go to your pokemon's info in game, see what nature it is in the first page, and search it up on just about any pokemon information site. A new feature that was introduced in HG/SS however is that if you look at your pokemon's stats on the second page of their summary, the stat that is getting a bonus is red, while the stat that is hindered appears blue. This is useful if you're unfamiliar with what specific natures do. (i.e. Jolly raises speed, but hinders special attack, good for a physical sweeper).

Captain Fabio March 13th, 2011 12:49 PM

Hey guys. I am looking for a set for http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/628.png (Braviary), however, not sure what to do with it.
Any recommendations?

Thanks for your help.


Dark Azelf March 13th, 2011 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 6508281)

Hey guys. I am looking for a set for http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/628.png (Braviary), however, not sure what to do with it.
Any recommendations?

Thanks for your help.


Braviary @ Life Orb
Jolly Nature
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
Trait : Encourage
- Hone Claws / Bulk Up
- Crush Claw
- SuperPower
- Brave Bird / Rock Slide / Shadow Claw

Otherwise its pretty much an inferior Staraptor.

IConquer March 14th, 2011 3:40 AM

what role does an Adamant victini fit? I know that adamant increses Attack and decreases SP. Attack, so my first guess would be physical sweeper. it also says "hates to lose", so it gets an attack bonus.

as far as i've figured, the most damaging move it can learn that is physical and provides STAB bonus is Flare Blitz. However, I am not sure if it is worth the recoil damage.

so I really don't want to mess this one up... how should I build it? (haven't touched it yet, refuse to mess up the EV training on it as well :P)

marcc5m March 14th, 2011 8:23 AM

Emboar @Notsureyet
212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spd
Adamant
Blaze
- Stone Edge
- Flame Charge
- Bulk Up
- Hammer Arm

Not too sure about what item, and the moveset I feel could somehow be better, any suggestions?

Anis March 14th, 2011 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6508277)
EVs are awarded to a stat that the opponent pokemon corresponds to. For your Zubat example, I'm fairly certain he gives 1 EV point to speed. However, the issue that I'm telling you about is that Your Samurott has done so much battling (supposedly) while traveling through Unova, that it's probably reached the max amount of EVs it can take in, and thos 510 EVs that he has are probably a mess of all 6 of the stats. So you won't be able to get 252 in speed, as he's probably maxed out at the 510 EVs, where some of those points you want in Speed have now moved to, say, Defense or something.

As for natures, there are multiple ways to check. You can go to your pokemon's info in game, see what nature it is in the first page, and search it up on just about any pokemon information site. A new feature that was introduced in HG/SS however is that if you look at your pokemon's stats on the second page of their summary, the stat that is getting a bonus is red, while the stat that is hindered appears blue. This is useful if you're unfamiliar with what specific natures do. (i.e. Jolly raises speed, but hinders special attack, good for a physical sweeper).

What I meant to say, is that I was told you don't have to fight 252 zubats in a row, so I just wanted to confirm that I will still be able to max the speed stat for a pokemon of mine e.g. Litwick, even if I battle other pokemon in between. Also, could you tell me what natures are good for what stats? I want to raise a Chandelure EV'd in Sp Atk & Spd, a Hydreigon EV'd in Sp Atk & Spd and A Haxorus in Atk & Spd - what natures should I raise them in? Also, I would appreciate if could you give me your opinion about the movesets and items I should put on these pokemon.

Thanks a lot,

Anis

.Aero March 14th, 2011 4:08 PM

I'm not entirely sure what you mean still about the EV training. :x Sure, you don't have to fight 252 Zubat in a row, but you can't fight other pokemon unless they give you speed or another stat you want to EV in. Meaning, if you fight a pokemon that gives you a defense or something that you don't want, you'll be messing up your EVs unless you remove those defense EVs with one of those berries. Sorry if I'm not answering your question still, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Everything that you need to know about EV training was explained in my last post. Save some specific info like the fact that you have to manually count the EVs you invest as there's no way of checking ingame. However, I'll at least give you some sets for the pokemon you requested if this doesn't answer your question (sorry, I'm just not competent at explaining EV training. xD).

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/609.png
Chandelure@Life Orb
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Substitute

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/635.png
Hydreigon@Choice Scarf
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Focus Blast

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/612.png
Haxorus@Life Orb
Jolly Nature [+Spe; -SpA]
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Taunt / Dragon Tail

t99zz March 14th, 2011 11:22 PM

what is a good moveset for Hydreigon
 
Hydreigon
  1. nature: Timid
  2. Item: Choice scarf
  3. Moveset
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower
??? Draco Meteor???

pls help plus how do i get ferrothorn with spikes and stealth rocks


Mujahid March 14th, 2011 11:58 PM

Don't use both dragon pulse and draco meteor..Keep only 1..Apart from these..You can teach him U-Turn.It will be pretty useful on hydreigon

iirc,ferrothorn can learn spikes and stealth rock by breeding with a dwebble/Crustle.

FinalPaladin March 15th, 2011 11:54 AM

Dump Dragon pulse and use either u-turn or the better move surf

.Aero March 15th, 2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6510587)
http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/635.png
Hydreigon@Choice Scarf
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Focus Blast

Quote:

Originally Posted by t99zz (Post 6511139)
Hydreigon
  1. nature: Timid
  2. Item: Choice scarf
  3. Moveset
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower
??? Draco Meteor???

pls help plus how do i get ferrothorn with spikes and stealth rocks


I posted a set in the post above yours...

the purple n00b March 15th, 2011 1:28 PM

Im pretty new to EV training and seeing as i have close to 0 rare candy's, can you EV train without them?

crystalvelox March 15th, 2011 2:10 PM

Rare candy is not required at all in EV training.

Anis March 15th, 2011 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6510587)
I'm not entirely sure what you mean still about the EV training. :x Sure, you don't have to fight 252 Zubat in a row, but you can't fight other pokemon unless they give you speed or another stat you want to EV in. Meaning, if you fight a pokemon that gives you a defense or something that you don't want, you'll be messing up your EVs unless you remove those defense EVs with one of those berries. Sorry if I'm not answering your question still, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Everything that you need to know about EV training was explained in my last post. Save some specific info like the fact that you have to manually count the EVs you invest as there's no way of checking ingame. However, I'll at least give you some sets for the pokemon you requested if this doesn't answer your question (sorry, I'm just not competent at explaining EV training. xD).

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/609.png
Chandelure@Life Orb
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ground] / Substitute

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/635.png
Hydreigon@Choice Scarf
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Focus Blast

http://veekun.com/dex/media/black-white/612.png
Haxorus@Life Orb
Jolly Nature [+Spe; -SpA]
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Taunt / Dragon Tail


No, you've explained it very well - the other person I asked didn't clarify what they meant about the fact that you can fight different pokemon in between EV training. I had a few other questions - can I EV train a pokemon from catching it straight from the wild or is it better to breed and start from lv 1? How can I get the natures/abilities/egg moves I want for a certain pokemon?

Thanks for all your help and advice,

Anis

Ramos123 March 15th, 2011 3:53 PM

EV HELP WITH MY GIGALITH
 
I am almost entirely sure I have invested my ev's in the correct stats but would be eternally grateful for some confirmation with my gigalith, who was ev trained primarily as a roggenrola and boldore.

Lvl. 42
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Proud of its power
HP:129
ATK:172
DEF:115
Sp. ATK: 50
Sp. DEF: 67
SPD: 63
(EV's: 255 SPD, 255 ATK) *HOPEFULLY*

Thank you so much. Please do not send me links for stat calculators or EV, DV, IV (or any other two letter acronym) guides, and thank you again for helping !!!

Erufuun March 15th, 2011 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos123 (Post 6512497)
I am almost entirely sure I have invested my ev's in the correct stats but would be eternally grateful for some confirmation with my gigalith, who was ev trained primarily as a roggenrola and boldore.

Lvl. 42
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Proud of its power
HP:129
ATK:172
DEF:115
Sp. ATK: 50
Sp. DEF: 67
SPD: 63
(EV's: 255 SPD, 255 ATK) *HOPEFULLY*

Thank you so much. Please do not send me links for stat calculators or EV, DV, IV (or any other two letter acronym) guides, and thank you again for helping !!!


I'm sorry but speed is the last thing you want to invest in. It's base speed is abysmal, there is no reason to give it any attention in that stat.
The best thing to do is invest heavily in Def, so he can be a Physical wall.

Do you need a moveset to go along side him??
(Will go ahead and post one)

Gigalith
Adamant natured
252 Att / 252 Def / 4 HP
Ability : Sturdy
Item: Custap Berry
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Explosion
- Earthquake

This moveset is still viable if he is already EV'd trained like you say. Just stealth rock first turn, and if Sturdy activates, Custap berry gives you priority so you can either explode or Stone Edge/Earthquake whatever stands in your way~

Ramos123 March 15th, 2011 4:10 PM

thank you for the opinion and i do understand what youre saying, but is there any way any of you could figure out my original questionwas; were all of these evs (maxed atk and spd) invested correctly in the okemon based on the information provided?

Thanks for your time and help either way i rly appreciate it

Dark Azelf March 15th, 2011 4:43 PM

Explosion sucks without max attack and adamant, especially this gen. Just go max att and hp @ Adamant.

.Aero March 15th, 2011 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis (Post 6512410)
No, you've explained it very well - the other person I asked didn't clarify what they meant about the fact that you can fight different pokemon in between EV training. I had a few other questions - can I EV train a pokemon from catching it straight from the wild or is it better to breed and start from lv 1? How can I get the natures/abilities/egg moves I want for a certain pokemon?

Thanks for all your help and advice,

Anis

:] Glad I can help thus far.

You can EV train from whichever way you wish. I personally enjoy training from an egg (and as the pokemon is level 1 upon hatching, the only method of EV training I can think of before it can start doing battles itself is through medicines and EXP. Share).

Getting a good nature on your pokemon can be done in multiple ways. For one, a pokemon with they ability "Synchronize" can increase the chances of encountering a wild pokemon with the same nature as your Synchronize pokemon (or Sync for short). Say you have a Munna with Timid nature, if you search for wild pokemon with Munna as your leading pokemon, Timid nature pokemon will appear more frequently than they would normally. Or you could just keep trying to catch pokemon until you find the nature you want. Same goes for breeding. There's a method of increasing nature chances with an Everstone, but I forget which parent needs to hold it. I believe the female must have the desired nature and be holding an Everstone to increase the chances (don't quote me on that however).

Abilities are the same deal, minus the Sync and Everstone methods. Just keep trying until you get what you want.

Eggs moves are a bit different. Try searching a pokemon on Serebii, and then scrolling down to the section where it says "Egg Moves". Next to each move should be a "details" section which will tell you which parent the pokemon would need to be bred with to produce a baby with that egg move.

Dylan1 March 15th, 2011 11:22 PM

i've got a salamence with thunder fang, dragon claw, draco meteor, and fly. i wanna get rid of thunder fang and one of the dragon moves, but idk which. any suggestions on what i should do?

Dark Azelf March 16th, 2011 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan1 (Post 6513260)
i've got a salamence with thunder fang, dragon claw, draco meteor, and fly. i wanna get rid of thunder fang and one of the dragon moves, but idk which. any suggestions on what i should do?

Fly is a bad move too, it leaves you vulnerable on the turn you use it and switch to a counter.

Try MixMence;

Salamence @ Life Orb
4 Atk / 252 Sp.Att / 252 Speed
Naive Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break
- Roost

Draco Meteor for STAB, Fire Blast for Steels whilst Brick Break takes out special walls, Heatran and Tyranitar. Flawless coverage also.

marcc5m March 16th, 2011 8:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 6509539)
Emboar @Notsureyet
212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spd
Adamant
Blaze
- Stone Edge
- Flame Charge
- Bulk Up
- Hammer Arm

Not too sure about what item, and the moveset I feel could somehow be better, any suggestions?

Is it all right if I bump this? Never got any replies about it.

Also:
Ferrothorn @Leftovers
Calm Nature
Trait: Iron Barbs
252 Def/ 196 Sp Def/ 60 Atk
-Stealth Rock
-Iron Head
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

Erufuun March 16th, 2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 6513800)
Is it all right if I bump this? Never got any replies about it.

Also:
Ferrothorn @Leftovers
Calm Nature
Trait: Iron Barbs
252 Def/ 196 Sp Def/ 60 Atk
-Stealth Rock
-Iron Head
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

I think Emboar is not good enough for a slot on anyones team. D; He basically needs two turns of set up to get anywhere, and before that Gyarados can come in and set up a dragon dance and procede to OHKO with Aqua Tail or waterfall. And countless other threats, like the oh so common Garchomp.

I would go with sweeping Blaziken or Infernape, if you want that type coverage.

Blaziken
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Speed Boost
Item: Balloon
Evs: 252 Att / 252 Spd
Moves:
-Swords Dance
-Blaze Kick/ Flare blitz
-High Jump Kick
-Stone Edge

OR

Infernape
Nature: Timid
Item: Life Orb
Evs: 252 Spl Attack / 252 Speed
Moves:
-Nasty Plot
-Vacuum Wave
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Ice/Electric

On Ferrocede, he want's a Careful nature. Calm reduces Attack. But Sassy is your best bet for Gyro Ball, in place of Iron Head. He speed is so low anyways, take advantage of it. XD Give him 0 IVs in speed as well to insure lowest possible speed.

Dark Azelf March 16th, 2011 2:30 PM

Baton Pass is illegal with Speed Boost. ^

Angelroid March 16th, 2011 11:22 PM

Are there good movesets for a team in B/W yet?

Dark Azelf March 16th, 2011 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 6515474)
Are there good movesets for a team in B/W yet?

Elaborate on what you mean lol ?

Dylan1 March 17th, 2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 6513711)
Fly is a bad move too, it leaves you vulnerable on the turn you use it and switch to a counter.

Try MixMence;

Salamence @ Life Orb
4 Atk / 252 Sp.Att / 252 Speed
Naive Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break
- Roost

Draco Meteor for STAB, Fire Blast for Steels whilst Brick Break takes out special walls, Heatran and Tyranitar. Flawless coverage also.

my garchomp on the same team has brick break and my t-tar has flamethrower, i like to keep the move types really spread out. but idk. any suggestions are welcome, i may try that
and i'm not too deep in the metagame yet, so i don't worry about ev's and natures and stuff like that. mainly cuz it takes too long to level

Angelroid March 17th, 2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 6515495)
Elaborate on what you mean lol ?

I mean, i need help with movesets. But i don't know what ones to use.

For Serperior, Unfezant, Darmanitan

FinalPaladin March 17th, 2011 12:20 PM

Hello all, recieved a weavile and a heracross in trades today, am requesting moveset help

[email protected] scarf
swarm
adamant
252 attack/252 speed/4hp (i think)
Megahorn
close combat
stoneedge
Earth Quake??

[email protected]??
Adamant
252 attack/ 252 speed/ 4 hp
ice punch/ ice shard
brick break
swords dance
night slash

please rate and help me out with these, not really sure what sets are still viable in gen 5.

Erufuun March 17th, 2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 6516488)
Hello all, recieved a weavile and a heracross in trades today, am requesting moveset help

[email protected] scarf
swarm
adamant
252 attack/252 speed/4hp (i think)
Megahorn
close combat
stoneedge
Earth Quake??

[email protected]??
Adamant
252 attack/ 252 speed/ 4 hp
ice punch/ ice shard
brick break
swords dance
night slash

please rate and help me out with these, not really sure what sets are still viable in gen 5.


Well, I don't see too much of Heracross anymore in Gen V. Honestly there are plenty other better contenders for a slot in your team. But if you really do want him, get rid of Earthquake for Night Slash for Ghosts.

And Weavile looks fine to me, still a decent revenge killer this generation. Although he may want a Jolly nature, Adamant is still viable.

epyon101 March 17th, 2011 1:00 PM

Need Help Please Look!
 
Scizor and Aggron have dream world abilities that effect their weight, I am wondering would this effect there defense and/or speed at all?

Perriechu March 17th, 2011 1:03 PM

No, the Weight only affects Moves, such as Low Kick, Grass Knot, Heavy Bomber and some others.

OmegaNemesis28 March 17th, 2011 3:26 PM

Im making a team with excadrill, jellicent, ferrothorn, crunkle (roobushin) and rukushorin.

I need a starter to setup sandstorm and stealth rocks.
The catch is that I need 5TH GEN ONLY. I can't use any other gen pokemon which is why this is difficult. I cant settup sand stream :(

.Aero March 17th, 2011 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 (Post 6516891)
Im making a team with excadrill, jellicent, ferrothorn, crunkle (roobushin) and rukushorin.

I need a starter to setup sandstorm and stealth rocks.
The catch is that I need 5TH GEN ONLY. I can't use any other gen pokemon which is why this is difficult. I cant settup sand stream :(

You'd most likely be better off not running a weather team at all in that case, as wasting both a moveslot (and turn) on Sandstorm, as well as an item slot to make it last 8 turns instead of 5 would be easy setup fodder for something like SD Garchomp.

I'd highly recommend a change in strategy, as without a Sandstreamer (TTar or Hippo), you've become bait.

OmegaNemesis28 March 17th, 2011 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6516922)
You'd most likely be better off not running a weather team at all in that case, as wasting both a moveslot (and turn) on Sandstorm, as well as an item slot to make it last 8 turns instead of 5 would be easy setup fodder for something like SD Garchomp.

I'd highly recommend a change in strategy, as without a Sandstreamer (TTar or Hippo), you've become bait.

Im fighting against 5th gen only teams as well. So i wouldnt be against a garchomp.
Even if it has to be a suicide rush to put out sandstorm and rocks then i guess its all I can do for now. Hmmm i hate this5th gen only rule we're having lol

Erufuun March 17th, 2011 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 (Post 6516975)
Im fighting against 5th gen only teams as well. So i wouldnt be against a garchomp.
Even if it has to be a suicide rush to put out sandstorm and rocks then i guess its all I can do for now. Hmmm i hate this5th gen only rule we're having lol

Yeah, I don't think you should go with a Sandstorm based team without a permanent sandstorm running. Only problem I have with a gen V only team is that it is too limited. There are so many other Pokemon that have gotten new toys this generation, it is a shame that you can only use the new ones.

FinalPaladin March 18th, 2011 4:18 AM

Can I please have a moveset for my 252 speed/252 sp.atk/ 4 hp starmie please? Not a rapid spinner please as moves like stealthrock dont play a big part in pokemon blacks online battles :/

Dark Azelf March 18th, 2011 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 6517872)
Can I please have a moveset for my 252 speed/252 sp.atk/ 4 hp starmie please? Not a rapid spinner please as moves like stealthrock dont play a big part in pokemon blacks online battles :/

They do, hazards are still as prominent as ever. To back this up, Ferrothorn is the #1 most used Pokemon.

Starmie @ Life Orb
252 SAtk / 252 Sped / 6 HP
Timid Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Psyshock / Recover

Last slot is up to you, HP Fire beats Scizor (sp.def is the most common set now because of Latios and Reuniclus), Ferrothorn and Lance Bug whilst Psyshock lets you beat special walls like Bliss or you can just Recover to heal off LO recoil.

FinalPaladin March 18th, 2011 5:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 6517930)
They do, hazards are still as prominent as ever. To back this up, Ferrothorn is the #1 most used Pokemon.

Starmie @ Life Orb
252 SAtk / 252 Sped / 6 HP
Timid Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Psyshock / Recover

Last slot is up to you, HP Fire beats Scizor (sp.def is the most common set now because of Latios and Reuniclus), Ferrothorn and Lance Bug whilst Psyshock lets you beat special walls like Bliss or you can just Recover to heal off LO recoil.

I just havnt found entry hazards that dangerous in 3 v 3 battles :/

Zerrah. March 18th, 2011 6:35 AM

I'm debating on which Conkeldurr I should make:

Adamant
Guts
252HP/252Atk/4SpD
~Drain Punch
~Mach Punch
~Payback
~Bulk Up

Or should it have Sheer Force with Hammer Arm? I'm leaning more toward the first one, but I wanted to hear some more opinions.

Anis March 18th, 2011 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 6512897)
:] Glad I can help thus far.

You can EV train from whichever way you wish. I personally enjoy training from an egg (and as the pokemon is level 1 upon hatching, the only method of EV training I can think of before it can start doing battles itself is through medicines and EXP. Share).

Getting a good nature on your pokemon can be done in multiple ways. For one, a pokemon with they ability "Synchronize" can increase the chances of encountering a wild pokemon with the same nature as your Synchronize pokemon (or Sync for short). Say you have a Munna with Timid nature, if you search for wild pokemon with Munna as your leading pokemon, Timid nature pokemon will appear more frequently than they would normally. Or you could just keep trying to catch pokemon until you find the nature you want. Same goes for breeding. There's a method of increasing nature chances with an Everstone, but I forget which parent needs to hold it. I believe the female must have the desired nature and be holding an Everstone to increase the chances (don't quote me on that however).

Abilities are the same deal, minus the Sync and Everstone methods. Just keep trying until you get what you want.

Eggs moves are a bit different. Try searching a pokemon on Serebii, and then scrolling down to the section where it says "Egg Moves". Next to each move should be a "details" section which will tell you which parent the pokemon would need to be bred with to produce a baby with that egg move.


I am really grateful for your help so far. Unfortunately, I have a few more questions:
  • Does EXP. Share affect EV training - do you still get 1 EV point for not battling the pokemon and gaining experience through EXP. Share?
  • I am going to EV train my Chandelure - 252 SpA/252 Spd/6 HP - I am attending a tournament in which pokemon are lowered to lv 50 when battling. Therefore, after having EV trained my Chandelure in the relevant stats and say it reaches lv 57, is it ok to leave it at that lv 57 or will raising it lv 100 make it better when lowering it to lv 50 for battling?
  • Does it matter where I start my EV training - e.g. EV train a lv 43 Lampent into a Chandelure rather than a lv 1 Litwick?
  • Does the level of the pokemon I fight affect the EV points gained - e.g. battle 252 Woobat at lv 12 rather than at lv 41?
I would like to thank you for your time,

Anis

Erufuun March 18th, 2011 8:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerrah. (Post 6518033)
I'm debating on which Conkeldurr I should make:

Adamant
Guts
252HP/252Atk/4SpD
~Drain Punch
~Mach Punch
~Payback
~Bulk Up

Or should it have Sheer Force with Hammer Arm? I'm leaning more toward the first one, but I wanted to hear some more opinions.

That's how my Conkeldurr works, except mine is Physically bulky. It just depends on what you hate more, common physical threats like Excadrill and Garchomp, or common Conkeldurr switch ins, like Latios. With max HP, Latios's Draco Meteor fails to OHKO at full health. But with Choice Specs, you are a gonner. Max Special defense with Adamant nature and Max HP guarantees you live, without much residual damage, and then kill the stupid guy with Payback. :D Just saying.

And no no no, you want Drain Punch, seriously. The recovery is so much more useful. Keep Guts, and give him Leftovers for even more bulk.

Detox March 18th, 2011 8:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerrah. (Post 6518033)
I'm debating on which Conkeldurr I should make:

Adamant
Guts
252HP/252Atk/4SpD
~Drain Punch
~Mach Punch
~Payback
~Bulk Up

Or should it have Sheer Force with Hammer Arm? I'm leaning more toward the first one, but I wanted to hear some more opinions.

Conkledurr @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Guts
120 HP | 252 Attack | 136 Special Defense
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Stone Edge | Payback

Thats your standard Conkledurr set.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis (Post 6518059)
I am really grateful for your help so far. Unfortunately, I have a few more questions:
  • Does EXP. Share affect EV training - do you still get 1 EV point for not battling the pokemon and gaining experience through EXP. Share?
  • I am going to EV train my Chandelure - 252 SpA/252 Spd/6 HP - I am attending a tournament in which pokemon are lowered to lv 50 when battling. Therefore, after having EV trained my Chandelure in the relevant stats and say it reaches lv 57, is it ok to leave it at that lv 57 or will raising it lv 100 make it better when lowering it to lv 50 for battling?
  • Does it matter where I start my EV training - e.g. EV train a lv 43 Lampent into a Chandelure rather than a lv 1 Litwick?
  • Does the level of the pokemon I fight affect the EV points gained - e.g. battle 252 Woobat at lv 12 rather than at lv 41?
I would like to thank you for your time,

Anis

1: yes, if they have an exp share equipped, they get the same EV's the pokemon that battled gets.

2: It wont matter as long as its EV trained

3: Only if you battle wild pokemon, otherwise you will have to wipe the previous EVs then re EV it in the correct stats. An easy way to level it up without battling wild pokemon is the day care or using rare candies, since they don't give EV's.

4: No, they give out the same EV's regardless of level.

t99zz March 18th, 2011 1:57 PM

Volcarona Moveset
 
What is a good moveset for Volcarona

mine has so far

Volcarona
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
Item: ???

Moveset:
Bug Buzz
Flamethrower
Quiver Dance
????

MarioManH March 18th, 2011 4:49 PM

Scrappy Scrafty
 
I'm trying to make a nice Scrafty and I Think I have a solid moveset planned, I would like to hear suggestions though.

Scrafty
Lvl.100
Ability: Moxie
Nature:Adamant(Idk about this)
Item:???
128 Atk/128 Def/252 Speed
Moveset:
DD
Crunch
Brick Break
Dragon Claw

Reason for Moxie and Dragon Dance is to DD about twice to get my speed and attack up, then take out the first opponent(Giving me Attk because of Moxie), then after that I can practicly keep pwning unless they pull out a Zoroark EV'd in Speed or something. Then Brick Break is just for a Good amount of damage with stab. Then Dragon Claw for people with Dragonites and everything of the sort.

Buizark March 18th, 2011 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t99zz (Post 6518726)
What is a good moveset for Volcarona

mine has so far

Volcarona
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
Item: ???

Moveset:
Bug Buzz
Flamethrower
Quiver Dance
????

Life orb/Leftovers for the item and psychic on your last slot.

Detox March 18th, 2011 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t99zz (Post 6518726)
What is a good moveset for Volcarona

mine has so far

Volcarona
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
Item: ???

Moveset:
Bug Buzz
Flamethrower
Quiver Dance
????

Erm on Volcarona you want HP Ground or Rock in the last slot, Psychic does absolutely nothing. The set should look something like this.

Volcarona @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 6 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe or 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spd, - Atk)
- Quiver Dance
- Flame Dance / Fire Blast
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden Power [Rock/Ground] / Morning Sun


Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioManH (Post 6519073)
I'm trying to make a nice Scrafty and I Think I have a solid moveset planned, I would like to hear suggestions though.

Scrafty
Lvl.100
Ability: Moxie
Nature:Adamant(Idk about this)
Item:???
128 Atk/128 Def/252 Speed
Moveset:
DD
Crunch
Brick Break
Dragon Claw

Reason for Moxie and Dragon Dance is to DD about twice to get my speed and attack up, then take out the first opponent(Giving me Attk because of Moxie), then after that I can practicly keep pwning unless they pull out a Zoroark EV'd in Speed or something. Then Brick Break is just for a Good amount of damage with stab. Then Dragon Claw for people with Dragonites and everything of the sort.


You're on the right track, however the moveset needs to be

Scrafty @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Dance
- Hi Jump Kick / Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch / Taunt

crystalvelox March 18th, 2011 11:54 PM

Flamethrower is another option for Volcarona. But what is the percentage rating for fiery dance to activate its secondary effect?

Dark Azelf March 19th, 2011 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalvelox (Post 6519774)
Flamethrower is another option for Volcarona. But what is the percentage rating for fiery dance to activate its secondary effect?

50% aka a rather good chance. :X


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