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Chaostorm November 28th, 2009 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peeky Chew (Post 5356798)
I still need help with this one that everyone completely ignored :(

1- Skarmory is fine

2- Umbreon in OU seems kinda gimmick as SDLuke destroys it, and baton pass serves no purpose in this set. someone else could help you on this ...

3- Zapdos is fine. good Scizor check

4- Seriously this Scarf Relicanth only outspeeds neutral base 100 speed pokemon which is fail, if you really want to use it then Rock Polish on the last slot and change the held item to Leftovers or Life Orb ( depends on your need of more power or more bulk )

Alternative November 28th, 2009 5:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peeky Chew (Post 5356798)
I still need help with this one that everyone completely ignored :(

If most of your pokemon have healing abilities, then you shouldn't need wish support. Go with something else over it, like CB Tar.

Also, ditch the Scarf on Relicanth, and give it a Life Orb. Make the last spot Rock Polish.

Also also, Skarmory dies to taunt leads. Replace Stealth Rock with Brave Bird.

Chaostorm November 28th, 2009 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5357037)
If most of your pokemon have healing abilities, then you shouldn't need wish support. Go with something else over it, like CB Tar.
Also, ditch the Scarf on Relicanth, and give it a Life Orb. Make the last spot Rock Polish.

I guess he said he doesnt want more than one OU pokemon in his team >.>

Dark Azelf November 28th, 2009 6:00 AM

Skarmory NEEDS an attack move or its utter Taunt bait. Put Brave Bird >> Stealth Rock and add put SR on something else. If you did this i suggest you add a Rapid Spin Blocker too or your spikes stacking will be futile.

Umbreon is dead weight in OU, there are better walls and tanks.

There are also better Scarfers than Relicanth in OU.

FreakyLocz14 November 28th, 2009 10:14 PM

Just a quick question. If I bred a Pokemon for the right nature would it be unethical to hack it only to get it perfect IVs? I mean I'm not gonna give it any illegal moves or tweak with its stats or ability.

.Aero November 28th, 2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5359115)
Just a quick question. If I bred a Pokemon for the right nature would it be unethical to hack it only to get it perfect IVs? I mean I'm gonna give it any illegal moves or tweak with its stats or ability.

Hacking is hacking, and most people in the BA (aka, worst place in existence) are highly against it. I do it myself with Pokesav, but if you use hacked pokemon (as in any way) for a battle, you must inform your opponent beforehand.

Anti November 28th, 2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5359115)
Just a quick question. If I bred a Pokemon for the right nature would it be unethical to hack it only to get it perfect IVs? I mean I'm gonna give it any illegal moves or tweak with its stats or ability.

Assuming that you accidentally omitted "not" in the last sentence, legal hacks are seen by some people as okay and by others as taking a shortcut or cheating. So it depends who and where you're battling.

FreakyLocz14 November 28th, 2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti (Post 5359123)
Assuming that you accidentally omitted "not" in the last sentence, legal hacks are seen by some people as okay and by others as taking a shortcut or cheating. So it depends who and where you're battling.

Yes these will be legal hacks. Completely legit. I'm considering entering the 2010 VGCs. I did accidentally ommit "not".

iMeh November 28th, 2009 11:14 PM

When you're making a team, do you have to make them all the same tier or can they be different?

wolf November 28th, 2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMeh (Post 5359190)
When you're making a team, do you have to make them all the same tier or can they be different?

Say you're making a standard team, anything is allowed as long as it is not from the Uber tier. If it is UU, then OU and Uber is banned. If it is NU, then UU, OU, and Uber is banned.

FreakyLocz14 November 28th, 2009 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMeh (Post 5359190)
When you're making a team, do you have to make them all the same tier or can they be different?

Any Pokemon in the tier in question and lower can be used.

Chaostorm November 29th, 2009 2:25 AM

Lets say Im using an Ingrained Smeargle with Mist around it whie it has +2 in its speed, can the opposing pokemon eliminate the +2 in smeargle's speed with Haze ?

Dark Azelf November 29th, 2009 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaostorm (Post 5359362)
Lets say Im using an Ingrained Smeargle with Mist around it whie it has +2 in its speed, can the opposing pokemon eliminate the +2 in smeargle's speed with Haze ?

Yes, pretty much lol.......

iMeh November 29th, 2009 4:58 AM

Which Eeveelutions are good for an OU-UU team?

Aurafire November 29th, 2009 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMeh (Post 5359519)
Which Eeveelutions are good for an OU-UU team?

It depends on what is needed for your team...But since most of them are already in OU or UU, any of them could work really.

Red_Star_Chris November 29th, 2009 8:14 AM

Hey! I was just thinking of putting a Cresselia in my Sunny Day team as a supporter because she can take alot of hits really well. No joke. This is my team so far.

Crobat
Typhlosion
Tangrowth
"Cresselia"

And this would be the moveset I give to my Cresselia.

Nature: Calm
EV's: 252 HP/196 Def/62 Sp.Def
Held Item: Leftovers
Psychic
Icy Wind
Sunny Day
Moonlight

Meet, the moon. Crescent moon actually. I need her because I need the night to be beautiful. Anyway, this is my second Sunny Day supporter for my team. This Pokemon plays the long game in battles.

Psychic. It's a STAB attack that can put Poison types out of existence. I would go for Charge Beam but it won't help me much.

I love in Pokemon Stadium 2 the announcer says "A gust of Icy Wind!". However, Icy Wind comes in handy in Double Battles. It hits both Pokemon, lowering their Speed to let my Pokemon outrun them.

Sunny Day, as usual. Summons the sun to boost up Fire type attacks and activate Tangrowth's Chlorophyll ability.

Now, you can't play the long game without the Moonlight shining on you. It restores HP depending on the weather. When the sun is out, Moonlight I think restores health by 75%. Quite a biggy, ain't it.

So, what do you think. Do you think this Cresselia can come in handy? I hope so because I do need a supporter to play the long game for my future Sunny Day team. Please tell me if you think the moveset's perfect or need improvements. Thank you. I don't like being a lone wolver by the way.

Alternative November 29th, 2009 3:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Star_Chris (Post 5359939)
Hey! I was just thinking of putting a Cresselia in my Sunny Day team as a supporter because she can take alot of hits really well. No joke. This is my team so far.

Crobat
Typhlosion
Tangrowth
"Cresselia"

And this would be the moveset I give to my Cresselia.

Nature: Calm
EV's: 252 HP/196 Def/62 Sp.Def
Held Item: Leftovers
Psychic
Icy Wind
Sunny Day
Moonlight

Meet, the moon. Crescent moon actually. I need her because I need the night to be beautiful. Anyway, this is my second Sunny Day supporter for my team. This Pokemon plays the long game in battles.

Psychic. It's a STAB attack that can put Poison types out of existence. I would go for Charge Beam but it won't help me much.

I love in Pokemon Stadium 2 the announcer says "A gust of Icy Wind!". However, Icy Wind comes in handy in Double Battles. It hits both Pokemon, lowering their Speed to let my Pokemon outrun them.

Sunny Day, as usual. Summons the sun to boost up Fire type attacks and activate Tangrowth's Chlorophyll ability.

Now, you can't play the long game without the Moonlight shining on you. It restores HP depending on the weather. When the sun is out, Moonlight I think restores health by 75%. Quite a biggy, ain't it.

So, what do you think. Do you think this Cresselia can come in handy? I hope so because I do need a supporter to play the long game for my future Sunny Day team. Please tell me if you think the moveset's perfect or need improvements. Thank you. I don't like being a lone wolver by the way.

Using Cress just means you'd be using an OU pokemon, which just dies to OU teams. You'd really want to stick with UU/NU, and I recommend this pokemon to you.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/379.png @ Heat Rock/Leftovers
Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
252 HP, 60 Def, 196 SpD
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Sunny Day
- Iron Head

Assumiung your Crobat has U-Turn, this is the pokemon you'd switch to. Provides status to slow down your enemy, sun support, rock support, and an attack, so you can't get taunted. With Registeel's natural bulk and useful typing, it will last longer than Cresselia.

wolf November 29th, 2009 3:47 PM

Or you can use Uxie, since it and Cresselia is really similar so it shouldn't break the synergy too bad.

Red_Star_Chris November 30th, 2009 7:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley Williams (Post 5361305)
Using Cress just means you'd be using an OU pokemon, which just dies to OU teams. You'd really want to stick with UU/NU, and I recommend this pokemon to you.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/379.png @ Heat Rock/Leftovers
Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
252 HP, 60 Def, 196 SpD
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Sunny Day
- Iron Head

Assumiung your Crobat has U-Turn, this is the pokemon you'd switch to. Provides status to slow down your enemy, sun support, rock support, and an attack, so you can't get taunted. With Registeel's natural bulk and useful typing, it will last longer than Cresselia.

Registeel, huh? That sounds like a good idea. But I'm usually worried about Pokemon in Sandstorm teams like Hippowdon and Gliscor and even Tyranitar. Since Cresselia has Levitate it avoids Ground type attacks with ease. I might try Registeel. But that's another Ground weakness to my team.

I'm talking about Double Battles by the way.

thomascallaghan November 30th, 2009 8:18 AM

Ok I think This is the right thread to ask this:

I am making a UU team so far and need help with 2 pokemon

1st My Lead
I am currently trying

Bellosom
Calm
Leftovers
252 HP/252 Sp.Def/6 Def
Energy Ball/Leech seed/Sleep Powder/Sub

But its not really working and ideas on a better lead?

Also I need help on somthing Bulky to take Ice And Water hits and as a backup for fire hits

Now im running
Blastoise
Calm
Leftovers
208 HP/188 Def/ 114 Sp.Def
Counter/Mirror Coat/Toxic/Protect

it works pretty well in KO ing A Ludicolo from full health with Mirror coat and can take hits pretty well but Kinda dosent fill a slot and completley loses to miltank
Im thinking Surf >> Toxic but still not sure

Any Help On either?

Also Dose Skill Swap effect Shedinja And Spiritomb? Need this for an awsome double team strategy

Fire Wolf November 30th, 2009 8:47 AM

UU lead? Ambipom is the best imo.
Use this set:
Ambipom @ Silk Scarf/Life Orb
Ability: Techinician
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Moveset:
~ Fake Out
~ Return
~ U-Turn
~ Taunt / Payback
Yes, Skill Swap does affect Shedinja and Spiritomb.

Dark Azelf November 30th, 2009 9:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomascallaghan (Post 5362975)
Ok I think This is the right thread to ask this:

I am making a UU team so far and need help with 2 pokemon

1st My Lead
I am currently trying

Bellosom
Calm
Leftovers
252 HP/252 Sp.Def/6 Def
Energy Ball/Leech seed/Sleep Powder/Sub

But its not really working and ideas on a better lead?

Also I need help on somthing Bulky to take Ice And Water hits and as a backup for fire hits

Now im running
Blastoise
Calm
Leftovers
208 HP/188 Def/ 114 Sp.Def
Counter/Mirror Coat/Toxic/Protect

it works pretty well in KO ing A Ludicolo from full health with Mirror coat and can take hits pretty well but Kinda dosent fill a slot and completley loses to miltank
Im thinking Surf >> Toxic but still not sure

Any Help On either?

Also Dose Skill Swap effect Shedinja And Spiritomb? Need this for an awsome double team strategy

Reason its not working is because you want something that actually accomplishes something as a lead. Bellossom is too slow and thus wont do much and will either be Taunt bait, wont stop the opponent from setting up (i.e Stealth Rock) or just flat out be ko'd and forced to switch. Id look into something that actually you know, does something when leading.

That Blastoise set is awful, no really it is lol. Counter + Mirror Coat are really gimmicky tbh. Blastoise's best Role is a Rapid Spinner and its a darn good one so id utalize that.

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/176 Def/20 Spd/62 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic / Yawn
- Roar / Ice Beam / Hidden Power Grass

Is its best set in uu.

It needs Surf for STAB, Rapid Spin removes entry hazards. 3 and 4th slots are up to you. Toxic or Yawn to cripple things or make them switch or fall to sleep. Last slot Roar forces switches and is cool with entry hazards to abuse. Ice Beam hits grass types and Hidden power Grass hits other water types such as Azumarril etc.

The evs ensure you outspeed all Rhyperior who Blastoise is an amazing counter to, whilst tanking hits on both sides well.


As for your skill swap question, no that does not work.

thomascallaghan November 30th, 2009 9:21 AM

thankx both of you Ill test them :)
Also my skill swap ideas are totally confused now lol

SmashBrony November 30th, 2009 5:00 PM

........................Help please?
....................................................Too bad I'm not quite good enough to help others with their teams......
I'm just starting in competitive battles...

natedogg November 30th, 2009 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney Kong (Post 5364055)
........................Help please?
....................................................Too bad I'm not quite good enough to help others with their teams......
I'm just starting in competitive battles...

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/intro_comp_pokemon

Go here.

FreakyLocz14 November 30th, 2009 8:05 PM

What's a Pokemon that learns Magic Coat and outspeeds Darkrai?
Preferably non-Ubers but that's not a requirement.

I'm building a double battle team for PBR Wi-Fi and Shodddy 2 and need a Darkrai counter and my strategy is Magic Coat.

wolf November 30th, 2009 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5364473)
What's a Pokemon that learns Magic Coat and outspeeds Darkrai?
Preferably non-Ubers but that's not a requirement.

I'm building a double battle team for PBR Wi-Fi and Shodddy 2 and need a Darkrai counter and my strategy is Magic Coat.

Mewtwo is the only one that can outrun Darkrai.

FreakyLocz14 November 30th, 2009 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf. (Post 5364480)
Mewtwo is the only one that can outrun Darkrai.

Ha, I just looked it up and Magic Coat is priority. Heck, I'll use Girafarig then! (lame joke)

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 12:42 PM

I am currenly trying to make a team that has a substitute lead (the first Pokemon uses sub then U-turn's or Returns). I'm having a little trouble trying to pick a Pokemon that would work. I need one that has a good Special Defense too. So are there any suggestions on a Pokemon that would work for a Substitute Lead and that has a good Special Defense?

It would be most appreciated if the suggestion was not part water or flying type due to the weakness to electric types in my team. I already have a part water and a part flying type so I don't need another making half my team weak to electric. So please help me.

Salvation December 4th, 2009 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ru-Kun (Post 5371765)
I am currenly trying to make a team that has a substitute lead (the first Pokemon uses sub then U-turn's or Returns). I'm having a little trouble trying to pick a Pokemon that would work. I need one that has a good Special Defense too. So are there any suggestions on a Pokemon that would work for a Substitute Lead and that has a good Special Defense?

It would be most appreciated if the suggestion was not part water or flying type due to the weakness to electric types in my team. I already have a part water and a part flying type so I don't need another making half my team weak to electric. So please help me.

What's the point of Uturning or switching out with a pokemon that has sub up bar pursuit bait pokemon with tar on the field.

You can always try Swampert though \o/

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 1:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoughts (Post 5371833)

What's the point of Uturning or switching out with a pokemon that has sub up bar pursuit bait pokemon with tar on the field.

You can always try Swampert though \o/

To set up a sub for the next Pokemon. I didn't think about Swampert, it isn't weak to electric, I'll think about it. Any other ideas?

.Aero December 4th, 2009 1:53 PM

You're thinking of Baton Pass. U-Turn does NOT keep stat boosts, subs, ect.

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 1:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 5371929)
You're thinking of Baton Pass. U-Turn does NOT keep stat boosts, subs, ect.

Does Return pass them all. If not then any Sub+Baton Pass suggestions?

.Aero December 4th, 2009 1:59 PM

Return is an attack. ;o; It's base power depends on how much a pokemon likes you.

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 2:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 5371939)
Return is an attack. ;o; It's base power depends on how much a pokemon likes you.

I thought when you used Return you attacked then you got to switch Pokemon. If not then any ideas for a sub+baton pass combo?

Painter December 4th, 2009 2:20 PM

ninjask!
you can use sub/protect on the 1st turn to get a speed boost then you can pass it or use sub/protect (whichever u didnt use first) again to get another boost

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5371996)
ninjask!
you can use sub/protect on the 1st turn to get a speed boost then you can pass it or use sub/protect (whichever u didnt use first) again to get another boost

Sorry I forgot to say again that I needed something that could sub+switch and have a good SpDef.

Painter December 4th, 2009 2:48 PM

exactly what are you trying to accomplish with this?
with that the only thing that comes to my mind is togekiss

Ru-Kun December 4th, 2009 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 5372088)
exactly what are you trying to accomplish with this?
with that the only thing that comes to my mind is togekiss

Okay nevermind I'll just figure it out myself.

FreakyLocz14 December 4th, 2009 6:15 PM

Would it be okay to post an RMT for a doubles team?

zoster December 5th, 2009 6:43 AM

Hi! i have this moveset on my lead azelf... max speed and max sp attack

Item: Focus sash
u-turn
Flamethrower
explosion
stealth rock

what do you think?

.Aero December 5th, 2009 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoster (Post 5373755)
Hi! i have this moveset on my lead azelf... max speed and max sp attack


Nature: Naive
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Item: Focus sash
U-Turn
Fire Blast
Explosion
Stealth rock

what do you think?

Good, but use the remainding 4 EVs in Atk for Explosion, and use Naive (you never mentioned a nature) so that Fire Blast and U-Turn/Explosion combo aren't weakened.

@Freaky: Stuff like that may be better suited for PM, but I think it would be fine, but don't expect too many rates as no one plays Doubles and I don't think there's even an established metagame for it.

Dark Azelf December 5th, 2009 9:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoster (Post 5373755)
Hi! i have this moveset on my lead azelf... max speed and max sp attack

Item: Focus sash
u-turn
Flamethrower
explosion
stealth rock

what do you think?

You need Psychic, or everything gets a free switch in (i.e Rotom etc) and set up on you. U-Turn doesn't accomplish anything, scouting really doesn't help a suicide lead lol

gee2k8 December 6th, 2009 7:16 AM

Would an impish natured snorlax with thick fat work? If so can anyone suggest evs and movesets? thanks

Dark Azelf December 6th, 2009 8:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gee2k8 (Post 5376540)
Would an impish natured snorlax with thick fat work? If so can anyone suggest evs and movesets? thanks

No, Snorlax wants Sassy/Careful for walling/tanking sets (Curse/STalker) and Brave/Adamant for more offensive sets (i.e CB or offensive Lax).

Jukain-Arashi December 6th, 2009 6:51 PM

Looking for the most viable set for Snorlax. Any ideas?

Aurafire December 6th, 2009 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jukain-Arashi (Post 5378497)
Looking for the most viable set for Snorlax. Any ideas?

Pretty sure you already asked this on the server, but CB/Offensive and CurseLax are probably the most viable sets.

Nincada December 6th, 2009 9:12 PM

Depends on what you are looking for in a snorlax.

As was mentioned, curselax is probably a safe bet, though rest talk is viable too.

Are you planning on using him as a wall or support, or are you trying to do something sneaky?

Jukain-Arashi December 7th, 2009 1:12 PM

Question was answered on the server, sorry guys.

Red_Star_Chris December 8th, 2009 9:50 AM

Hey everyone. I was thinking on a moveset for a Medicham in Double Battles. Which is in my Trick Room team and a Ludicolo which plays the long game.

Medicham
Nature: Brave
EV's: 252 HP/252 Atk
Held Item: Life Orb
Psycho Cut/Fake Out
Drain Punch
Ice Punch
Detect/Protect

The Drain Punch is for restoring HP by the way.

Ludicolo
Nature: Calm
Ability: Rain Dish
Held Item: Leftovers
Surf
Grass Knot
Leech Seed
Subsitute

What do you think of these movesets? Any good or not?

Aurafire December 8th, 2009 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Star_Chris (Post 5381609)
Hey everyone. I was thinking on a moveset for a Medicham in Double Battles. Which is in my Trick Room team and a Ludicolo which plays the long game.

Medicham
Nature: Brave
EV's: 252 HP/252 Atk
Held Item: Life Orb
Psycho Cut/Fake Out
Drain Punch
Ice Punch
Detect/Protect

The Drain Punch is for restoring HP by the way.

Medicham always needs Jolly or Adamant with 252 Att / 252 Speed, he's much too frail to make use of any sort of defensive investment. A Choice set also works best unless you're passing him speed boosts.

Ludicolo
Nature: Calm
Ability: Rain Dish
Held Item: Leftovers
Surf
Grass Knot
Leech Seed
Subsitute

Sure. Make sure you're using a bulky EV spread, like 252 HP / 76 SpA / 180 SpD.

What do you think of these movesets? Any good or not?

Comments are in bold, hoorah \o/

Red_Star_Chris December 8th, 2009 2:30 PM

Okay, thank you for the tip.

FreakyLocz14 December 8th, 2009 3:17 PM

What's a good Magic Coat Giratina lead set? I'm going to use it to deflect Darkrai's Dark Void along with a lead Kyogre for my Double Battle Uber Rain Dance Team I'm working on.

Klofkac December 9th, 2009 4:05 AM

Which pokémon gives best EVs and most EXPs?
 
Which pokémon is best at EV training for you?
Which pokémon you recommend to battle for lots EXPs?

Zheeph December 9th, 2009 6:43 AM

EV's
 
Hey guys, after a shameful battle last night against one of our friends here in the forum,which i lost by getting raped by Ice Beams and i realized that my SP.DEF and DEF were way too low to make me a decent Wifi Battler, our pal adviced me to try EV Training, so i'd like to know how do i make my lvl100's lose their current EV's for me to give then some vitamins to level their stats up, are berries the only way?

Dark Azelf December 9th, 2009 7:13 AM

Use the correct thread in future guys.

~merges~

revelp8 December 9th, 2009 8:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zheeph (Post 5384021)
Hey guys, after a shameful battle last night against one of our friends here in the forum,which i lost by getting raped by Ice Beams and i realized that my SP.DEF and DEF were way too low to make me a decent Wifi Battler, our pal adviced me to try EV Training, so i'd like to know how do i make my lvl100's lose their current EV's for me to give then some vitamins to level their stats up, are berries the only way?

giving vitamins to pokemon only achieve 100 EVs. that ain't much :T but yes, berries #21-26 are the only ones that reduce EVs, usually take up to 10 to completely wipe off the EV from the stat.

You NEED to rebreed and do everything from scratch. and by the sound of it, you need a special wall to take those ice beam hits and not be weak to ice type attacks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klofkac (Post 5383831)
Which pokémon is best at EV training for you?
Which pokémon you recommend to battle for lots EXPs?

usually, offensive attackers like gyarados and mamoswine etc are the easiest to EV train, because they only need 252 ATK/SPE and that's easily accomplished by beating gyarados and seaking...i fish for them using the super rod from the little pond down from the house. also, it levels them up pretty quickly. just a reminder, when you go into battle on the wifi, all the levels are set to either 50 or 100 and so the stats are adjusted accordingly to the EV points on your pokemon...barring free matches.

Zheeph December 9th, 2009 8:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revelp8 (Post 5384105)
giving vitamins to pokemon only achieve 100 EVs. that ain't much :T but yes, berries #21-26 are the only ones that reduce EVs, usually take up to 10 to completely wipe off the EV from the stat.

You NEED to rebreed and do everything from scratch. and by the sound of it, you need a special wall to take those ice beam hits and not be weak to ice type attacks.

Well, i'm not going to rebreed, can't be arsed and cant say bye to my pokémon only because their numbers suck, time to plant some Berries.

polkop December 9th, 2009 9:30 AM

I plan to make an Hail team, but I miss one pokemon to fill it.
Can I have help?

There my team:

Abomasnow - Snow warning
Walrein - Ice Body
Rotom-F - Levitate
Mamoswine - Snow Cloak
Snorlax - Thick Fat

Wich pokemon should be the last one?

Nincada December 9th, 2009 12:06 PM

On my BP ninjask, I am using

Baton
Swords
Double Team
X-Scissor

Should I swap out Double Team for protect so I can get an additional speed boost in as well as a swords dance?

wolf December 9th, 2009 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nincada (Post 5384386)
On my BP ninjask, I am using

Baton
Swords
Double Team
X-Scissor

Should I swap out Double Team for protect so I can get an additional speed boost in as well as a swords dance?

Since Double Team is banned, yes. Another option would be Substitute which can be Baton Passed as well.

Jukain-Arashi December 10th, 2009 6:48 PM

Is Rash a good nature for Entei?
It raise SpA and lowers SpD, but Entei has base 75 SpD

Aurafire December 10th, 2009 6:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jukain-Arashi (Post 5387089)
Is Rash a good nature for Entei?
It raise SpA and lowers SpD, but Entei has base 75 SpD

Not really, He doesn't want a nature that reduces one of the defenses unless he's running a mixed set, and in that situation Naive is preferred. Timid or Adamant are good too.

Red_Star_Chris December 11th, 2009 11:35 AM

Hello. I have thought of an interesting moveset for an Arcanine.

Nature:: Impish
EV's: 252 HP/252 Atk
Nature: Intimidate
Held Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Flare Blitz
ExtremeSpeed
Morning Sun
Protect/Toxic


First, the EV's. 252 HP makes it survive most attacks with the assist of Intimidate for physical sweepers.

Second, the last slot. Protect is used for Double Battles and some support by it's partner. Meganium I believe is th best partner to boost up Sunny Day and let Arcanine do the damage. Toxic is for Single Battles to wear down stallers that don't have Rest.

So, what do you think? Any good in some circumstances?

Aurafire December 11th, 2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Star_Chris (Post 5388110)
Hello. I have thought of an interesting moveset for an Arcanine.

Nature:: Impish
EV's: 252 HP/252 Atk
Nature: Intimidate
Held Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Flare Blitz
ExtremeSpeed
Morning Sun
Protect/Toxic


First, the EV's. 252 HP makes it survive most attacks with the assist of Intimidate for physical sweepers.

Second, the last slot. Protect is used for Double Battles and some support by it's partner. Meganium I believe is th best partner to boost up Sunny Day and let Arcanine do the damage. Toxic is for Single Battles to wear down stallers that don't have Rest.

So, what do you think? Any good in some circumstances?

Idk, this is one of those "trying to do too much with four moveslots" kind of sets. The problem here is that you're trying to make both a support and offensive set all in one, which makes both elements of the moveset nonviable. Basically, you're gonna want to do one or the other. Either make him offensive or defensive, but not both.

wolf December 11th, 2009 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Star_Chris (Post 5388110)
Nature:: Adamant / Jolly
EV's: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Speed
Nature: Intimidate
Held Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Flare Blitz
ExtremeSpeed
Morning Sun
Protect/Toxic / Will-O-Wisp

^ This is pretty much the standard Arcanine set. Speed EVs allow you to outrun Gallade, Venusaur, and other base 80s, which is worth taking away some of HP EVs for. You can experiment with the EVs by taking away Attack EVs and adding more bulk, but usually you will want as much damage as possible. Then, for a wall / bulky kind of Arcanine that utilizes Intimidate, you will want Impish Nature with 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Speed. 248 HP EVs lets Arcanine take less SR damage, and 8 Speed is to outrun base 95s like Drapion who invest 4 EVs. And, you could use Roar in the last slot.

I don't know if this could work in doubles, because I would try making use of something like Heat Wave.

Xebelleon December 11th, 2009 5:55 PM

What would a Wish Jynx moveset look like?

Dark Azelf December 11th, 2009 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelleon's Evolution (Post 5388849)
What would a Wish Jynx moveset look like?

Terrible.

Dont use Jynx for Wish. SR, Pursuit, being inferior to Hypno/Lickilicky/Chansey/even Gardevoir at wishing are all factors for it. That is just in UU, dont even think about using it in OU because everything beats it, if you want me to elaborate i will lol

Ru-Kun December 12th, 2009 6:21 AM

I suppose this would be okay to ask here. I heard once that the teir of the team was the majority of each tiered Pokemon I had on there. So If I had 3 UUs, 2 OUs, and 1 NU would that team be considered UU because there are 3 of them?

Fire Wolf December 12th, 2009 6:24 AM

No, it'd be considered OU since you have 2 OU's. Even if you have 1 OU, it'd be considered OU.

Ru-Kun December 12th, 2009 6:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5389566)
No, it'd be considered OU since you have 2 OU's. Even if you have 1 OU, it'd be considered OU.

Okay I get it. Thanks for the help!

TwilightBlade December 12th, 2009 12:30 PM

Does Impish Lapras have any potential? Or should I breed for another nature? :(

Change December 12th, 2009 1:05 PM

A strategy question.
 
Out of a Choice Specs Shaymin and a Physical Batton Celebi. I'm leaning to them both, but I'm not sure that both in the same team would work, as Heatran, T-tar and other common sweepers would completly do them over. Any suggestions.

Aurafire December 12th, 2009 1:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 5390166)
Does Impish Lapras have any potential? Or should I breed for another nature? :(

Unfortunately, Impish doesn't leave Lapras with too many options. Modest is your best bet really.

Nice to see you in S&M gurl ;D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Change (Post 5390204)
Out of a Choice Specs Shaymin and a Physical Batton Celebi. I'm leaning to them both, but I'm not sure that both in the same team would work, as Heatran, T-tar and other common sweepers would completly do them over. Any suggestions.

As long as you compensate enough for your weakness, there's no reason why you can't use them on the same team. Although, as you said, it may give you a little trouble.

Change December 12th, 2009 1:42 PM

Ok, that's brilliant, I might do the Physical Celebi, and thanks for that. :D

TwilightBlade December 12th, 2009 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 5390233)
Unfortunately, Impish doesn't leave Lapras with too many options. Modest is your best bet really.

Nice to see you in S&M gurl ;D

What is the point of trying when I breed everything wrong? Stupid natures, hidden power, IVs, abilities, aaaaa. T___T

How about Careful Bronzor? >_<

/works on Lapras then

Aurafire December 12th, 2009 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 5390578)
What is the point of trying when I breed everything wrong? Stupid natures, hidden power, IVs, abilities, aaaaa. T___T

How about Careful Bronzor? >_<

/works on Lapras then

If you're not using it specifically for competitve battling, then anything works really. But you know this already, lol...

And Careful can work on Bronzor/Zong, but Sassy is usually better since the speed lowering nature boosts the power of Gyro Ball, which it one of its best attacks :D

zoster December 13th, 2009 12:34 PM

I catch a zapdos with really good IV's and have a relaxed nature. I was thinking to make him a special defence wall, but i would like him to have roar. Can you help me with this moveset?

~Thunderbolt
~Roost
~Light Screen
~Heat Wave

What move should i take off to put roar?

Dark Azelf December 13th, 2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoster (Post 5392749)
I catch a zapdos with really good IV's and have a relaxed nature. I was thinking to make him a special defence wall, but i would like him to have roar. Can you help me with this moveset?

~Thunderbolt
~Roost
~Light Screen
~Heat Wave

What move should i take off to put roar?

Probably Light Screen tbh.

Also Discharge > T-Bolt imo, the paralysis is too good to pass up.

Nincada December 13th, 2009 2:36 PM

Yea, if you are doing special wall go discharge, because you dont need something as powerful as TB in that position.

~ShAdowWAlker~ December 13th, 2009 2:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nincada (Post 5392999)
Yea, if you are doing special wall go discharge, because you dont need something as powerful as TB in that position.

Actualy the power always helps and it doesnt matter if its a wall or not tbh. D_A is saying that discharge is better for the increased para hax chance and para helps dos since its a bit slow and it also helps the rest of the team

sims796 December 13th, 2009 6:11 PM

I wanna make a primary offensive "Grass Themed" team. Gimme suggestions.

I won't give any of my own, cause I'm awesome. I r not a noob, so therefore, it's OK if I don't give any suggestions, completley ignoring the rules that our mods so "thoughtfully" made.

OK, Vileplume will be in it. He'll be a supporter. And it's not an entirely grass team, as I'd like to try out Swampert. I also wouldn't mind Sunny Day, and Leafeon, but I dunno.

Help from "experts". Heh.

~ShAdowWAlker~ December 13th, 2009 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 5393625)
I wanna make a primary offensive "Grass Themed" team. Gimme suggestions.

Use grass types!!! they are needed for sure

luke December 13th, 2009 6:23 PM

SD Venusaur and Roserade are good options. You'll need something to clear out Steel and Flying-types as well.

sims796 December 13th, 2009 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ShAdowWAlker~ (Post 5393650)
Use grass types!!! they are needed for sure

Post of epic poportions.

How does SD Vena works? I've been out of the loop for too long, I'm old & rusty & hansome & intelligent & have a sparkling personallity

~ShAdowWAlker~ December 13th, 2009 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okutank (Post 5393656)
SD Venusaur and Roserade are good options. You'll need something to clear out Steel and Flying-types as well.

dont forget fire types and moves. their power is boosted by sunny day KOing your grass types and causing some good damage to most anything else.

heatran/houndoom could be used on the team thanks to flash fire taking the fire attacks aimed at you and powering them up at the same time, they also help clear the steels oku mentioned and can help with fliers

luke December 13th, 2009 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 5393661)
Post of epic poportions.

How does SD Vena works? I've been out of the loop for too long, I'm old & rusty & hansome & intelligent & have a sparkling personallity

Venusaur @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

Power Whip
Earthquake
Sleep Powder
Swords Dance

amazing, flawless, etc.

sims796 December 13th, 2009 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okutank (Post 5393874)
Venusaur @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

Power Whip
Earthquake
Sleep Powder
Swords Dance

amazing, flawless, etc.

That's a great option.

I was also thinking, how would a physical or even mixed Sceptile work with Low Kick? In OU, I mean.

zoster December 15th, 2009 2:30 PM

Hi! i need a last poke to my team. Any quick sugestions?

My team:
- Swampert (lead)
- Dusknoir
- Zapdos (special defence)
- SD tyranitar
- Blissey
- (?)

(This team is pretty bulky in all pokemons)

Sotto Voce December 15th, 2009 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoster (Post 5395804)
Hi! i need a last poke to my team. Any quick sugestions?

My team:
- Swampert (lead)
- Dusknoir
- Zapdos (special defence)
- SD tyranitar
- Blissey
- (?)

(This team is pretty bulky in all pokemons)

I'd get a fire-type of some sort.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG POST!!! (and no, these are not all of the pokemon I have-- this is a bit over 1/3 of them. I only posted the ones that really needed help. I hardly ever use them because they haven't worked well for me.

I am also in need of suggestions for my pokes' movesets, all of them are at lv. 50; the first few are in desperate need of new movesets, but I'm not sure what to teach them:
Magnezone @ shuca berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Magnet Rise
-Mirror Shot
-Discharge
-Magnet Bomb
**this one needs an entire new moveset, but I'd like to keep discharge.

Slaking @ Custap berry
Adamant/Strongly defiant
Moves:
-Return
-Slack off
-Focus Punch
-Counter

Porygon-Z @ Kasib berry
Modest/Thoroughly cunning
Moves:
-Shadow ball
-Recover
-Psychic
-Conversion

Scizor @ Occa berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Iron Head
-Night Slash *need to replace this one*
-X-Scissor
-Aerial Ace *need to get rid of this one too (?)*

Staraptor @ Enigma berry
Naughty/Likes to thrash about
Moves:
-Close Combat
-Brave Bird
-Roost
-*none* <---- ???

Roserade @ Coba berry
Modest/Highly curious
Moves:
-Sludge Bomb *thinking about changing this one*
-Toxic Spikes <--- ???
-Energy Ball
-Leech Seed

Granbull @ Chople berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Strength *need to get rid of this one*
-Bite *this one too*
-Ice Punch
-Charm

Togekiss @ Lum berry
Rash/Capable of taking hits
Moves:
-Wish *want to get rid of this one*
-Metronome <--- ???
-Aura Sphere
-Shadow Ball

The next two are pretty bad. They're strong but they have terrible movesets...: (almost finished!)

Gardevoir @ Lum berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Shadow Ball
-Light Screen

Espeon @ Lum berry
Modest/Alert to sounds
Moves:
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Future Sight
-Calm Mind

(I think this one is okay)
Lucario @ Mind Plate (lol)
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dragon Pulse
-Flash Cannon
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind

Houndoom
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dark Pulse
-Beat Up *need to get rid of*
-Flamethrower <--- ???
-Roar <--- ???

Last but not least:
Honchkrow @ Liechi berry
Adamant/Strong willed
Moves:
-Night Slash
-Roost
-Fly
-Spite

I am also training these next pokemon. I have a pretty good idea as far as movesets go for these, but if any suggestions pop out at you, please share:

Drifblim
Timid/Very finicky

Luxray
Lonely/Likes to thrash about

Noctowl
Modest/Mischievous

Swablu
Quirky/Good perseverance

Alakazam
Modest/Capable of taking hits

Lucario
Brave/Proud of its power

Heracross
Sassy/Quick tempered

Milotic
Rash/Mischievous

Shieldon
Bashful/Hates to lose

Thanks for taking the time to read this post if you did. XD

JJAttacker December 15th, 2009 4:11 PM

question bout trick
 
can you trick a steel type a toxic orb and have it poison itself? just a thought

revelp8 December 15th, 2009 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sotto Voce (Post 5395938)
I'd get a fire-type of some sort.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG POST!!! (and no, these are not all of the pokemon I have-- this is a bit over 1/3 of them. I only posted the ones that really needed help. I hardly ever use them because they haven't worked well for me.

I am also in need of suggestions for my pokes' movesets, all of them are at lv. 50; the first few are in desperate need of new movesets, but I'm not sure what to teach them:
Magnezone @ shuca berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Magnet Rise
-Mirror Shot
-Discharge
-Magnet Bomb
**this one needs an entire new moveset, but I'd like to keep discharge.

Slaking @ Custap berry
Adamant/Strongly defiant
Moves:
-Return
-Slack off
-Focus Punch
-Counter

Porygon-Z @ Kasib berry
Modest/Thoroughly cunning
Moves:
-Shadow ball
-Recover
-Psychic
-Conversion

Scizor @ Occa berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Iron Head
-Night Slash *need to replace this one*
-X-Scissor
-Aerial Ace *need to get rid of this one too (?)*

Staraptor @ Enigma berry
Naughty/Likes to thrash about
Moves:
-Close Combat
-Brave Bird
-Roost
-*none* <---- ???

Roserade @ Coba berry
Modest/Highly curious
Moves:
-Sludge Bomb *thinking about changing this one*
-Toxic Spikes <--- ???
-Energy Ball
-Leech Seed

Granbull @ Chople berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Strength *need to get rid of this one*
-Bite *this one too*
-Ice Punch
-Charm

Togekiss @ Lum berry
Rash/Capable of taking hits
Moves:
-Wish *want to get rid of this one*
-Metronome <--- ???
-Aura Sphere
-Shadow Ball

The next two are pretty bad. They're strong but they have terrible movesets...: (almost finished!)

Gardevoir @ Lum berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Shadow Ball
-Light Screen

Espeon @ Lum berry
Modest/Alert to sounds
Moves:
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Future Sight
-Calm Mind

(I think this one is okay)
Lucario @ Mind Plate (lol)
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dragon Pulse
-Flash Cannon
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind

Houndoom
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dark Pulse
-Beat Up *need to get rid of*
-Flamethrower <--- ???
-Roar <--- ???

Last but not least:
Honchkrow @ Liechi berry
Adamant/Strong willed
Moves:
-Night Slash
-Roost
-Fly
-Spite

I am also training these next pokemon. I have a pretty good idea as far as movesets go for these, but if any suggestions pop out at you, please share:

Drifblim
Timid/Very finicky

Luxray
Lonely/Likes to thrash about

Noctowl
Modest/Mischievous

Swablu
Quirky/Good perseverance

Alakazam
Modest/Capable of taking hits

Lucario
Brave/Proud of its power

Heracross
Sassy/Quick tempered

Milotic
Rash/Mischievous

Shieldon
Bashful/Hates to lose

Thanks for taking the time to read this post if you did. XD

this is a bit excessive o.O

check out smogon.com for all the pokes your interested with, its not original no, but they have movesets and all the information you need to change it up. they are probably the most useful for the pokemon in question. By all means, use the ones you want with whatever moveset you come up with, but if your going to battle other people on the wifi, i strongly recommend rebreeding.

Magnezone @ leftovers
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-substitute
-flash cannon/magnet rise
-Discharge
-HP (hidden power) ground

Slaking @ choice band
Adamant/Strongly defiant
Moves:
-Return
-Fire Punch
-Focus Punch/EQ
-Counter

Scizor @ Choice band/Life orb
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Bullet Punch
-U-turn
-Superpower/brick break
-Pursuit

Many sets for scizor, i just chose the choice band set for now, its the most popular one.

Porygon-Z @ choice specs/scarf
Modest/Thoroughly cunning
Moves:
-Dark Pulse
-Tri attack/hyper beam
-Psychic
-Ice Beam

Togekiss @ Lum berry/leftovers
Rash/Capable of taking hits (needs to be calm/modest/timid)
Moves:
-Wish *you should REALLY keep that move*
-baton pass/encore
-Aura Sphere
-Air Slash

Wish is actually a really good move on togekiss, it provides healing support if your other pokemon are low on health.

those are the ones that i know, because i've used sets like that before and i memorized it, i can't tell you the EV sets because they're all on smogon and im too lazy to go check it D:

Dark Azelf December 16th, 2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sotto Voce (Post 5395938)
I'd get a fire-type of some sort.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG POST!!! (and no, these are not all of the pokemon I have-- this is a bit over 1/3 of them. I only posted the ones that really needed help. I hardly ever use them because they haven't worked well for me.

I am also in need of suggestions for my pokes' movesets, all of them are at lv. 50; the first few are in desperate need of new movesets, but I'm not sure what to teach them:
Magnezone @ shuca berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Magnet Rise
-Mirror Shot
-Discharge
-Magnet Bomb
**this one needs an entire new moveset, but I'd like to keep discharge.

Slaking @ Custap berry
Adamant/Strongly defiant
Moves:
-Return
-Slack off
-Focus Punch
-Counter

Porygon-Z @ Kasib berry
Modest/Thoroughly cunning
Moves:
-Shadow ball
-Recover
-Psychic
-Conversion

Scizor @ Occa berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Iron Head
-Night Slash *need to replace this one*
-X-Scissor
-Aerial Ace *need to get rid of this one too (?)*

Staraptor @ Enigma berry
Naughty/Likes to thrash about
Moves:
-Close Combat
-Brave Bird
-Roost
-*none* <---- ???

Roserade @ Coba berry
Modest/Highly curious
Moves:
-Sludge Bomb *thinking about changing this one*
-Toxic Spikes <--- ???
-Energy Ball
-Leech Seed

Granbull @ Chople berry
Adamant/Proud of its power
Moves:
-Strength *need to get rid of this one*
-Bite *this one too*
-Ice Punch
-Charm

Togekiss @ Lum berry
Rash/Capable of taking hits
Moves:
-Wish *want to get rid of this one*
-Metronome <--- ???
-Aura Sphere
-Shadow Ball

The next two are pretty bad. They're strong but they have terrible movesets...: (almost finished!)

Gardevoir @ Lum berry
Modest/Mischievous
Moves:
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Shadow Ball
-Light Screen

Espeon @ Lum berry
Modest/Alert to sounds
Moves:
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Future Sight
-Calm Mind

(I think this one is okay)
Lucario @ Mind Plate (lol)
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dragon Pulse
-Flash Cannon
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind

Houndoom
Modest/Often lost in thought
Moves:
-Dark Pulse
-Beat Up *need to get rid of*
-Flamethrower <--- ???
-Roar <--- ???

Last but not least:
Honchkrow @ Liechi berry
Adamant/Strong willed
Moves:
-Night Slash
-Roost
-Fly
-Spite

I am also training these next pokemon. I have a pretty good idea as far as movesets go for these, but if any suggestions pop out at you, please share:

Drifblim
Timid/Very finicky

Luxray
Lonely/Likes to thrash about

Noctowl
Modest/Mischievous

Swablu
Quirky/Good perseverance

Alakazam
Modest/Capable of taking hits

Lucario
Brave/Proud of its power

Heracross
Sassy/Quick tempered

Milotic
Rash/Mischievous

Shieldon
Bashful/Hates to lose

Thanks for taking the time to read this post if you did. XD

Is this for ingame ?

Scrap the ones with no sets firstly, bad natures.

We need evs too.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/

Go here, click the pokes and fix your sets accordingly. There is just way too many bad sets here and moves that dont even make sense on the pokes they are on. Also 99% of berrys are pure trash, use Leftovers.


Quote:

can you trick a steel type a toxic orb and have it poison itself? just a thought
no, it has no effect iirc.

Sotto Voce December 16th, 2009 7:21 AM

Thanks for the site and I apologize again for the long post.
DISREGARD!!!!
IGNORE THE LONG POST!!!!

Yeah, originally it was for only in-game, but I plan to expand my horizons and try them out on Wi-Fi.
But as I have learned, I still have MUCH to learn.

*Sotto has been demoted to "inadequate." DX *

TypeiroZySopy December 16th, 2009 7:33 AM

question bout trick
 
Heh, thanks. I most certainly willOnce Im done with all of this probably.I just really want to get all 493 by legit means, and by recieving only legit pokemon.And since I dont have means of getting some pokemon, legenderies pretty much, might as well get them through someone who can remake the event for me.As legit as I can get them I guess, so why not? o:

Darkhunter101 December 17th, 2009 4:43 AM

Thought up this set when i was bored. I think it has a lot of potential. Any constructive criticism would be great! :)

Oberon (Dragonite) @ Leftovers
252 Hp, 200 Sp. Def, 56 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -Sp.A)
~Dragon Dance
~Roost
~Dragon Claw
~[b]Stone Edge?/b]
I really think this set will go somewhere. Dragon Dance is for obvious reasons and Roost is to heal off the damage i take. The reason i have more Sp. Def evs than Def evs is because the main move Nite has to worry about is Ice Beam. Dragon Claw for STAB. I'm not sure about the last move, i want something that gives good type coverage.
Rate And Comment! :)

natedogg December 17th, 2009 6:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhunter101 (Post 5399027)
Thought up this set when i was bored. I think it has a lot of potential. Any constructive criticism would be great! :)



Oberon (Dragonite) @ Leftovers
252 Hp, 200 Sp. Def, 56 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -Sp.A)
~Dragon Dance
~Roost
~Dragon Claw
~[b]Stone Edge?/b]
I really think this set will go somewhere. Dragon Dance is for obvious reasons and Roost is to heal off the damage i take. The reason i have more Sp. Def evs than Def evs is because the main move Nite has to worry about is Ice Beam. Dragon Claw for STAB. I'm not sure about the last move, i want something that gives good type coverage.

Rate And Comment! :)


Why Stone Edge? EQ gives you much better coverage. It lets you hit steel type pokemon that can come in on your dragon claws. But basically your set it bulky DDNite. Which would be this

Dragonite @ Leftovers
224hp/84att/200spe
Adamant nature
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- EQ
- Dragon Claw

so yeah....(You are better off with Salamence anyways)

Peeky Chew December 17th, 2009 9:47 AM

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0e/Spr_4d_197.png
[email protected]
Sassy
252 HP / 200 Atk / 56 SpD
Toxic
Payback
Wish
Taunt

My team no longer needs Wish support so I've removed Baton Pass and replaced it with Taunt. I'm thinking I can Toxic on the switch and then Taunt them and recover any damage with Wish. I'll have Stealth Rock and possibly Spikes support by the time I use it.

Comments?

wolf December 17th, 2009 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peeky Chew (Post 5399318)
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0e/Spr_4d_197.png
[email protected]
Sassy
252 HP / 200 Atk / 56 SpD
Toxic
Payback
Wish
Taunt

My team no longer needs Wish support so I've removed Baton Pass and replaced it with Taunt. I'm thinking I can Toxic on the switch and then Taunt them and recover any damage with Wish. I'll have Stealth Rock and possibly Spikes support by the time I use it.

Comments?

You can also try Protect instead of Taunt as it will allow you to Toxic stall offensive Pokemon easier.

Peeky Chew December 17th, 2009 9:56 AM

Then I'd have no one with Taunt. How about I use Moon Light instead of Wish so I don't need Protect for that?


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