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tajio September 17th, 2009 12:41 PM

The English Version Of The Logos SUCK!
 
Okay, I like graphic design and stuff and I just have to say it ... *sigh* The English Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver logos SUCK CHEESE!!! I mean come on! I can do a better logos than that! Atleast try and make a bit similar to the japanese version ... I know that the logos aren't that big of a deal but I would like to see good quality designs, I know this is stupid but ... once I saw them I just ... I don't know.
So who agrees with me or disagrees with me?

I know that the logos aren't a big of a deal to some people but people who like Graphic/Web Design (ME) do not like the design, they might, but I don't know, for me, they are bad designs that took less than an hour to make.

Thanks, Tajio

THIRTY-SIX September 17th, 2009 12:51 PM

Type design is harder than you think.

And foreign characters end up looking better because you are in contact with them less.

Mitchman September 17th, 2009 1:07 PM

I think they will look better on the boxes not on paper. I say that because I think they took a photo of the labels with tin foily look on the boxes and not the regular solid color look.

lx_theo September 17th, 2009 1:13 PM

I remember seeing them I bit back. I thought they looked good... Well chosen font was my first thought.

Xaddion September 17th, 2009 1:28 PM

Well if you INSIST you could've done it better, then make something better and show us.

Andrew McKenzie September 17th, 2009 1:56 PM

You shouldn't assume you can do "a better design than that" and then provide us no evidence of that fact.

Besides, I think these logos are both creative and hard work was put into them.
They're much better than any previous Pokemon Game Logos.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2mpzv4x.png

You obviously don't appreciate them as much as I(or anyone else) do(es), that there wasn't enough work done to make them look nice in your eyes.

So by all means, stick to your word and please show us that you can make better logos.
Also, I'll reiterate by saying that your statement is an opinion and not a fact.

EDIT: Fixed my image tags above so it would show the image properly.

EDIT: OH, it appears I'm mistaken and the logos I have shown above are infact fanmade?
If they are, tell me, if not, well then they stay.

And if they are fanmade then show me the english ones you're talking about.

giradialkia September 17th, 2009 2:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tajio (Post 5126618)
Okay, I like graphic design and stuff and I just have to say it ... *sigh* The English Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver logos SUCK CHEESE!!! I mean come on! I can do a better logos than that! Atleast try and make a bit similar to the japanese version ... I know that the logos aren't that big of a deal but I would like to see good quality designs, I know this is stupid but ... once I saw them I just ... I don't know.
So who agrees with me or disagrees with me?

I know that the logos aren't a big of a deal to some people but people who like Graphic/Web Design (ME) do not like the design, they might, but I don't know, for me, they are bad designs that took less than an hour to make.

Thanks, Tajio

Well, like everyone else so far, i too disagree. I'm glad they at least made an effort to make the logos different than the usual white-text-black-border-curvy title, which is a nice touch. And as Mitchman said, they'll look good with a 'tin-foily' effect.
And, just a bit of advice- maybe edit the first post, showing the logos in question, both japanese and english? And, unless you regret posting it, one of your own (not trying to be rude, just.. Yeah. Sorry.)?

Bigdog September 17th, 2009 2:07 PM

Whatever font they Used for the "Version" part of the logo should have been used for the "Title" part of the logo instead.

Anyways , I took graphic deisng and I know that the logos need a major overhaul like the Japanese got. The greatest example is the fanmade HGSS logos on DeviantArt, they look like the Japanese logos ,but with the English text. Removing the version part of the title is needed basicly because everybody calls the games not Ruby Version ,but just Ruby ,or Gold ,or Sapphire.

Sora_8920 September 17th, 2009 3:28 PM

The title design is amazing imo.

It's just the title itself (of Heart Gold specifically is what I'm talking about) that throws me off. Otherwise in the game, the videos of YouTube show me nothing wrong.

Dr Gregory House September 17th, 2009 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 5127120)
Whether they did better or not, I can't help but think this is still a 5 to 10 minute Photoshop job. Tack on a few layer styles, gradients and volia! Instant logo! The logos since the start (but mostly since the Advance games) have been like this, too. And unlike the black and white logos, if anyone had enough focus with typography even THEY would be able to identify how tacky these designs are - from a distance you won't be able to identify the writing, either. The colours contrast horribly.

And copying the colours from the Japanese logos is also a stupid idea, given that the Japanese logos draw off the original Gold/Silver Japanese logo colours. No consistency whatsoever. If they randomly based off the style of the Japanese logos, they'd further break consistency.

What I'd like to see is for NoA to drop the "version" moniker and colour the damn Pokémon logo. Not even Japan kept the typography overtime, and they stopped using "Version" after Crystal. So much for "Advance Generation", where the Japanese logos actually started looking damn cool.

I'll see how they print the logos on the box before judging further.

That is a good point, you can actually see in the Japanese logo that they have poured LOADS of effort into it, simply by the way it looks, whereas the English one seems to be just a 'Change the font and Colour' Job.
Personally I think it looks like a wordart from Microsoft Word.
Perhaps a physical form of it could change my mind, but I don't think that they'd be able to compensate for that tack, even if they embossed it on the box?
And I'm not sure I'd be able to cope with it ingame either.

ShinyMeganium September 17th, 2009 4:00 PM

Just complete the game, keep the Pokewalker, throw the box away, cover the game card with some correcting fluid and spam the start button every time you turn the game on.

Seriously, so many people here are focusing on those simple, unneeded, subordinate parts of the game. Just let it slide, and stop focusing on things like that and what not, really.

Masterge77 September 17th, 2009 4:01 PM

Actually, I think that they put effort into making the logos, they are certainly better than older ones............

MsBroccoli September 17th, 2009 4:09 PM

I don't mind the logos, they're kind of refreshing.

Oh and if you don't mind me going off topic for a quick comment, I think Hiroshi is cute. =3

Logiedan September 17th, 2009 4:12 PM

Everyone has their own opinion,I wouldn't say that the english logos suck, i'd say that they're not that creative and different.It looks rushed and quickly done,not enough effort.Atleast they're not white font with black strokes. So in conclusion I prefer the Japanese logos just because the English Logos could've been worked on more.

Sydian September 17th, 2009 4:17 PM

I just don't like the font that's used, but I don't see what's wrong with changing the style. They changed the logo style after GSC, and I don't remember anyone complaining about that.

Poliwhirled September 17th, 2009 5:48 PM

I remember a time where we all played Pokemon just to be the very best. Proof that the older we got, the nit-pickier we became.


The logos weren't exactly anyone's best effort, I'll admit that, but how does this trivial matter spark the most useless bickering and debate amongst everyone.
Chances are, if they changed the staple blue and yellow POKEMON logo, right now everyone would be complaining that they ruined it.

Phantom Poodle September 17th, 2009 5:53 PM

Uh, I saw the logos, and they look completely fine. XD

As long as they don't butcher the game, I don't care what they put on the box. I already know I'm getting it. :3

Poliwhirled September 17th, 2009 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Poodle (Post 5127533)
Uh, I saw the logos, and they look completely fine. XD

As long as they don't butcher the game, I don't care what they put on the box. I already know I'm getting it. :3

Knowing Nintendo of America, inconsistencies will cause Eusine to be named Youswine.

Axєl September 17th, 2009 5:56 PM

My only complaint about the english logos is that they looked rushed, in comparison to the Japanese logos. Those actually look like they took a fair amount of effort to make, and are more creative. Then again.. the Amercian Pokemon logo's have never been as good as the Japanese one's. :/ So I expected it, really. They don't bother me enough to go "KLJASKDL RAAAAAAAAAAGE. I HATE THEM.", though.

They're okay.. I'll live with it. xD

Luck September 17th, 2009 6:02 PM

You know what Tajio?
You don't deserve to speak about this matter, seeing as how making inferior logo's is Nintendo's thing D8
You should never have your hopes up for something that matters, even if it doesn't affect gameplay in any way.

And although they are inferior, that is the best damn title screen I can expect from them.

Eggie Poo Poo September 17th, 2009 6:44 PM

Only beef I have is the colour of the text, the gradient blue on SS and the orange on HG, me thinks it should be white with a black outline like the previous games =)

For some reason .... I am craving .... cheesecake ...

Tyrantrum September 17th, 2009 7:11 PM

I have to agree, the English logos of these games have greatly disappointed me, but the entire gameplay makes up for those silly little logos that don't mean much, amirite? >>

Also, you didn't have to make an entirely new thread. We have a Complaint Thread.

Yingxue September 17th, 2009 7:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahahahahahahahaha (Post 5126646)
Type design is harder than you think.

And foreign characters end up looking better because you are in contact with them less.

Actually, he has a point. The logo looks kind of too cartoony and clashes with the game's title. I mean, it doesn't ruin the game, but I think it's kind of neat that the Japanese logo changes for every game. :)

"Shadow Lugia" September 17th, 2009 7:58 PM

Answer me one question:

How do these

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4a/HeartGold_SoulSilver_Logo.png

look worse than these?

http://pokedream.com/games/diamondpearl/diamondpearl_logo.png

Pikachu2007 September 17th, 2009 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew McKenzie (Post 5126888)
I think these logos are both creative and hard work was put into them.
They're much better than any previous Pokemon Game Logos.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2mpzv4x.png

Agreed. These look wonderful. Wonder why anyone would disagree?


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